Mafia 42: Italian - Game over!

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Random vote: BabyJesus

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Blech... Pooky's running away with Weatherlight.

Fritzler: Good point. I should have a grudge against you.

Unvote, Vote: Fritzler

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I don't buy into the Brian bandwagon.

Thus, I

vote: Pooky

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Wow... Pooky F'NG READ PAGE 4. LOOK AT EVERY VOTE FOR YOU ON THAT PAGE. Most of them are "why not?" or "I don't think Brian is scum." I do the EXACT same thing and you jump down my throat. Scum much? There are two bandwagons right now- one on you and one on Brian. I don't buy into the Brian one, so I joined this one.

Hmmm... looks at connections... there are none! You're absolutely right! There are none! Besides the fact that there are two major bandwagons right now, and I, being a player that believes in bandwagons on day 1, but not buying into the LyingBrian one, joined yours. The fact that you single ME out of everybody is very scummy IMO.

And then, predictably, Fritzler joins with absolutely no explanation.

Large FOS: Pooky and Fritzler

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Pooky, many of the votes on Page 4 mention Brian as well.

Your utter ignorance of this frankly obvious fact makes me ready to lynch you right now.

We could argue about Day 1 tactics till the cows come home, but all of your "I vote for who I'm suspicious of" is utter bullcrap. Because you don't find suspicions without forming bandwagons. Otherwise the game stalls and doesn't get started. As for refusing to claim, you should just vote for yourself now, because like it or not, youre gonna have to claim eventually.

Now, according to your own logic, you say that "why not?" votes are better than saying "I'm not on the other wagon, so I'm on this one." But neither vote explains anything more than the fact that they're voting for the person. If you're such an advocate of using logic in Day 1 votes, where is your suspicion on these people?

In both games I've played with you, all you do is say we have no logic against you whenever anybody casts any glance of suspicion your way. When BabyJesus makes a good point, the fact that you're overly defensive and refuse to claim, you just say it's "not logical" simply because you don't like it. It's getting old. Suck it up.

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EDITED

Good morning all.

This bandwagon on Lying Brian looks like pure crap to me.... I'm better off with

OMGUS Vote: Pooky

vote pooky

Why not? Also I don't really think Brian is scummy here

RUBBISH! RUBBISH! RUBBISH!

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You're right. It's not. But voting for someone else at this point is like voting for Nader.

It's like saying "I'm not voting for Bush, thus I vote Kerry." There are

two

bandwagons. Sure, I could abstain from the vote, but so could anyone else who voted for you. I wanted to vote, and between the two, I chose yours.



Also, "Why not?" is not "essentially random." "Why not?" is "I don't have a reason, don't question me." The fact that you're going from saying

Actually Jabroni, your vote on me was the only one to mention brian. There's a damn big difference between jumping on a bandwagon while mentioning brian and what every1 else did.

The fact that you go from saying nobody mentioned Brian to having to defend against two people mentioning Brian tells me you didn't read... which, to me, says that you had a defense set up already, to hell with what people are actually saying. If your going to nitpick over one word ("thus"), then I'm going to nitpick over the

two sentences

you posted.

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Or complete and utter BS- the fact that you really THOUGHT nobody mentioned Brian while voting you, when in all actuality two people did- should simply be bought by the whole town, and the fact that you quickly CHANGED YOUR POSITION after I called BS, should simply be ignored.

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I guess I can understand FD's. But Stevies? They're really not that different. As for the bandwagon, Pooky's was picking up steam. The other people might have gotten two votes over time, but that's not a bandwagon, it's just two random votes. And I'm not attacking him for exaggerating. I'm attacking him for posting something that was false.

This means one of two things-

A) He knew it was false, and ignored it, probably because it screwed him over.

B) He did not know it was false, which means he didn't properly read Page 4. Which does not necessarily mean scum, but it does mean someone who had a defense already set up, regardless of what people were saying.

Either way it gives me a strong suspicion of scum.

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OK, I can admit when I'm wrong. I misinterpreted Stevie's post. However, I really think Pooky overreacted when I used "thus." The fact was that I saw two bandwagons, and I didn't see the wisdom in voting for anyone else. So, instead of Brians, I joined Pooky's. Maybe I shouldn't have used "thus," but whatever. Also, not to sound like a nerd, (though I know I'm going to), but thus is not a conjunction, it's a conjunctive adverb. Don't suggest ESL classes to me. Go watch Schoolhouse Rock.

The fact still remains that what Pooky posted- that nobody mentioned Brian on Page 4 in their vote for him- is false. While I still think he's being overly defensive, and he seemed to ignore Page 4,

Unvote: Pooky

, although

IGMEOY

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OK, I guess admitting you're wrong is considered "backpedaling" nowadays. Whatever. I keep getting lynched day 1 whenever I'm town these days.

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Hahaha @ zu...

Damned if I do, damned if I don't, I guess?

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I took a stand, but backed off because Pooky made some good points. Nothing wrong with that, is there?

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You don't really need to make one. The guy practically bashes himself.

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OK, I'm going to be gone w/o Internet access Thursday-Sunday. No further thoughts as of this point.

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I'm back...

Rereading Illumina's posts, I can see what JSexton is talking about. I don't like how fast he's been run up, so I'm going to abstain from the vote. However, I think a claim is in order.

No other real thoughts, b/c that seems to have been the topic of debate while I was away.

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I agree with Vesuvan. I think he summed up my thoughts on this bandwagon accurately. And I'm not saying JSexton is scum, because he brought up some valid points. But that lynch escalated

quickly

. Still, if we're this far, I think we need a claim.

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I want a claim in 24 hours or I'm voting for Illumina.

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I personally claim when I'm bandwagoned w/ reason or not. If the town runs you up with 2 votes left, saying "I'm not going to claim" isn't helpful (to quote BJ) to the town or your own well being.

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It's also a provable role... if we have a vig, he can shoot him tonight.

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My roles not on the wiki either.

I think the mafia doc is just a chance we have to take.

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I understand that, BJ. But if we kill him, then he was lying and we're up a townie. If not, then he's not completely cleared, but his chance of being innocent increases. Either way we get some info.

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All right, I'll claim then.

I'm a Searching Mason. Every night i submit one name to the mod. He tells me if that person is mason or not. If he is, I get the names of all the masons and can discuss with them the next night.

Last night I checked out BJ- he is

not

a mason.

Don't really know why I got strung up in the first place, but whatever. I claim when asked.

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I'll check you out tonight then Vesuvan.

Surprisingly, no "what if?" game was played with this...

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Also, are gonna just keep bandwagoning and claiming? We're not really getting anywhere.[/b]

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Nothing, really. This wagon never sat well with me. At first I got what JSexton was saying, but I think Illumina has defended himself well enough.

Vote: JSexton

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Vig him tonight. If he dies, then he was scum. If he lives, then we can reopen the discussion tomorrow. What is so hard to understand about this?

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I assume there's some type of vig with multiple shots. It's only going to take one.

I'm up for a Pooky wagon.

Vote: Pooky

[/b]

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This town is laughably stupid.

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Ummmm.... where did I say vigs were masons?

WTF is going on with this game?

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If you're saying that I implied Illumina could be cleared in one night, that's not what I meant, and I thought this was clarified by my earlier post. All I'm saying is, shoot him tonight, then tomorrow we can reopen the discussion on him if hes alive. If he's dead, we're up on the scum.

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That

is

what I meant. Somebody back there was attacking me for saying we should vig him, so I said that we probably have a regular or at least a multi-shot vig, and it would only take one shot. That's all.[/i]

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Unvote: JSexton, Vote: Gonzo

Your posts aren't making sense anymore.

IGMEOY: JSexton

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Fritzler is playing exactly how he always plays...

...scummy as hell.

Vote: Fritzler

though I'm not sure if it's gonna go anywhere.[/b]

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Bah, forgot to

unvote, Vote: Fritzler

.

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Is that lynch?

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BAH