Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

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Damn, a 24-page D1? Looks like I have some stuff to read.

I'll post something in the morning/afternoon - got 16 hours of sleep the other night, causing me to pull an all-nighter last night, so I'm exhausted right now.

So... yeah.


Oh, and by the way, aside from recognizing a player or two by name/avatar, I think I have played with the following players at one point or another:

Ellibereth
Parama
Konowa
MehPlusRawr
Fugitive
NavyCherub

Figured it'd be something to mention. Post coming sooooooooon(tm).

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Okay, just to let everyone know - I'm finishing up page 5 now and I'm fairly certain there's scum on SIR CYANIDE's wagon. I don't get the huge upset about him, either. I read his MD thread, and although the strategy he used in a past game was a bit unethical in ways, he technically didn't break any rules, did he? Not to mention that everyone is taking his tongue-in-cheek jokes a bit too seriously. It's just a game people; calm down.

I know everyone kinda talked about this but whatever.

About the wagon: Chrono/Blue were dice rolls, from what I remember; Shattered's vote placement is the one that stands out to me.

FoS: SV

because I don't want to spoil anything about the past few pages and don't know the votals.

Parama makes a long post, pointing out MPR's random vote saying the RVS ended. Personally, I believe that the RVS ends for each player seperately. It's kind of hard to point out an exact point where RVS stops and scumhunting begins. /my two cents

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Can you stop posting huge walls of text, Parama? It's too much reading for me. Yeah, I'm on page 8 right now.

From what I gather, Blue accuses Farside of something and votes Cyanide. Parama did this with leaf/Cyanide earlier, but then finally switches to leaf. He says he's always the best wagon. I agree.

FoS: Parama

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Now, let's assume that Leafsnail is scum. He comes in, accuses all the most recent people who votes for Cyanide of being scum, and nothing else.

Sound a bit scummy to you? Sounds scummy to me!

LET'S ASSUME THAT THIS GUY IS SCUM AND THAT IS WHY THIS IS SCUMMY

HoS: MehPlusRawr

- I should look at votals.

Navy posts! aaaaand tl;dr from DTmaster.

14 pages to go!

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HI, BILLY MAYS HERE, HERE HAVE SOME ALL-CAPS, ONLY $19.99.

nice quick blue wagon on p15. Mae's wagonvote stands out the most to me there.

On other earlier stuff - Chrono still had an RVS vote this far into the wagon with no one noticing? o_o

[Parama] acts as if he has a lot of authority which is something I generally find more so in scum than in town.

To be fair, Paramaramaetc is quite cocky. He does that.

Back to the present-ish.

I think that Blue is town, but I'm going to keep my vote on him.

KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE. I reject your wagon(s) and substitute my own.

Vote: MehPlusRawr

Any questions? I started to skim at one point, probably a few pages before the allcaps stuff.

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Dt, I have a history with Para. You wouldn't get it.
Trust me, the guy's town.
Pie is awesome as always with his tropes, and my gut is getting good feelings from Blue/Shadow/Jag. I'll have an updated listothing up later.

1) I have a history with Parama (somewhat, and it IS offsite) as well. So?
2) Maybe I'll make it my gimmick.

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There's only one real way to make up for it. Two words:

SpyreX. Dayvig.

Make it happen.

k

Dayvig: SpyreX

How do I post links to posts?

Link
stuff

Sooooo... is the MPR wagon gonna take off or are we just gonna say "oh, he's new"

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MehPlusRawr quick-ISO:

ISO 1: dice roll

ISO 2: says he did so because "everyone else was doing it". Says he has no leads, but Blue's the best lynch - doesn't vote for Blue though. Possible link to Blue here.

3: jumps on the Cyanide wagon

6: What's the word for this? Backtracking?

10: says three people are scum if Cyanide is; implies it's okay to lynch Cyanide or Shrine even if they are town. Doesn't mention Blue. hmm

13: I pointed this out earlier. "Accidentially" voting Leafsnail is a bit odd, but eh.

15: One of the sentences can be taken as "Blue isn't really doing much to help town", casting suspicion back on him again. Seems odd, as he's dropped Blue from his suspect list almost.

18: jumps on the Blue wagon

27: holy shit this post is bad

tl;dr: kill it with fire

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On earlier suspicions:
I'm liking Spyre better than SV (replacee) for the moment, so suspicion there is gone for now. Parama is eh. He's done long posts as town before, but I'm keeping an eye on him.

Top 3 at the moment:
MehPlusRawr
Maemuki (placement on the Blue wagon seems odd)
Chronopie (random/gut read)

I'm too lazy to read back; someone explain the Shrinewagon. I might jump on his wagon or Parama's if none of mine get steam.

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EBWOP:

tl;dr: kill it with fire

Or kill it with ice. Or water. Just kill it somehow.

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I replaced Henry iirc, plus Parama is yellow so yellow means town.

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^since I believe Elli said Parama was town earlier? I could be wrong

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I could shoot the hell out of those bottom three.

This is my 11th post in three pages. Not my fault the previous-slot person was inactive.

I'm waiting for this MPR wagon to take off, damnit.

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Why is there a Shrine wagon?

Because the game wasn't moving, I think.

Which is totally a great reason, especially if it's the only reason there. (b' ')b

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If all of you jesters (not the role) would stop posting bs fluff with bs links to bs sites about bs nobody cares about with bs pseudo-funny subtext, maybe we could think of some bs reasons to lynch someone.

Calm down a bit, broski. BS reasons to lynch someone, eh?

Shrine's at... 4 or something. I think.

To. A. Large. Degree. I. Do. Not. Care. Who. Dies. Today. You. Are. Only. My. Choice. By. A. Margin.

You don't care who we lynch today? ... uh... o.O

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So I went and did an ISO on Shrine/Spyre. Shrine mentions Blue or the lynch for maybe 3 or 4 posts, I believe. He doesn't seem to be "aggressively pushing the Blue lynch" as Meh+ says here. He only mentions Chronopie here (and asks one question towards Chrono early in the game), but Spyre says he's pushing for Chrono here. Which seems kind of odd.

Spyre's also said he doesn't care who is lynched in quite a few posts, and says he has a gut town read on one of my suspects. I'm more worried about the former. My gut is not liking Spyre for some reason.

Viva la revolution!

Unvote , Vote: SpyreX

I'll gladly join any of these wagons as well, if needed:
MehPlusRawr
Maemuki
Parama
Chrono
NavyCherub

...in that order.
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Parama >= Blue > Shrine

if I have to pick a wagon that's already started

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Interesting that MPR has nothing to say about my quick ISO or vote of him. I'm not saying that's scummy or townie, but it's... interesting.

In addition, MPR, I was going to tell you to get an avatar but I forgot.


Since MPR isn't taking off and neither is Spyre (duh), I'll just jump on here:

Unvote, Vote: Parama

Competing wagon, go!

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Parama is soooooooo town.

Ellibereth, WHY am I town?

I was gonna ask that. *sadface*

InflatablePie - do you have any reasons for your "gut suspicion" of Spyrex? And how does he relate to your scumlist?

Gut suspicion usually means no (or at least little) reasoning, y'know. It's mostly the general attitude of his posts. Seems odd. It started once I looked into the "Shrine pushing for Chrono" thing. For your second question - coincidentally, Spyre thinks MPR is town. Same with Navy.

As for the defense of that-Chrono-thing by Spyre, it seems kind of weak. Saying you're going to, or have, ISO('d) someone doesn't necessarily mean you think they are scummy, so I don't get the point there.

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Not too much has happened since I last posted... this day should end soon, I think.

Barring a lynch anytime soon, we have a week. And the mod is V/LA, so... yeah.

Right, reads time.

TOWN:
Maemuki

POSSIBLE SCUM
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SCUM
MehPlusRawr

I'm honored. But two questions - why is Mae town and why didn't you vote MPR with me when I had my vote on him for a while if he's scum. ._.

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Parama >= Blue > Shrine

if I have to pick a wagon that's already started

So since we're close to deadline and all and Parama won't take off (just like every other wagon I'm on)...

Unvote, Vote: Blue

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HI REST OF GAME! HOW ARE YOU?

good, you?

I was under the impression that JacobSavage was Day Rolecop because of his interaction with the Blue wagon Day 1.

I'm confused. Explain?

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wait, forgot the Day part of "Day Rolecop" durrrr

ignore my stupidity

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Placeholder vote until this Konowa thing is straightened out:

Vote: MehPlusRawr

Was on Cyanide, Blue, and switched to Shrine as it started to gain (iirc) - some of the major BWs from what I recall. PLUS he defended Parama a bit saying he looked town. Among other stuff I said yesterday.

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Personally, I'd prefer to just lynch Konowa now. It could pay off to have the SK kill scum for us, but there's a huge risk in the SK hitting Town, PLUS the fact that if it gets too close to lylo, well...

Also, if for whatever reason Jacob is lying, we have a lynch for tomorrow, no?

Unvote, Vote: Konowa

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*sigh* Guess we're not lynching the SK after all. At least there's one scum down, so we might be able to take a risk here. I think we can afford to let Konowa shoot once or twice under our guidance. After that, the risk might be too high. I suppose we leave him alive for now, although I'd prefer either everyone voting on who gets shot OR someone more likely town getting Konowa's leash, such as Jacob.

Unvote
Vote: MehPlusRawr

Let's get this wagon going, folks.

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Additionally everything about 962 gives me that itch in the bad, bad way.

You could elaborate, y'know.

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People 4 Eatin: Unight, Pom, Pie

Obviously, I don't particularly enjoy being on this list, if it's what I think it is. May I ask why? And could you give me an answer that isn't worded oddly/vaguely this time?


Anyways, MPR is at L-2. And by the way, if (when?) MPR flips scum, Shrine is more likely town, as MPR was hard on him D1 and I don't think MPR would be capable of a bus. IIRC he was on Leaf as well, then unvoted him because that vote was "and accident". So I'm not sure if Leaf would be more town or scum depending on MPR's flip.

Content time!

Currently, my views on the playerlist so far. Subject to change, of course:

Town: Pie, Jacob, Fate, DT, Elli, Papa Zito
Unknown: Shrine, Leafsnail, Unsight, CYANIDE, Pom, Jag, SpyreX
Scum: MehPlusRawr, Maemuki, Chronopie
SK: Konowa

For the Unknown section, it goes from most-likely-town to most-likely-scum, if I had to pick everyone's aligment now.

Haven't liked those three for a while. Maemuki's general attitude/fluffy posts don't sit well with me.

Chrono's Cyanide vote seems odd and then there's

this post

. Asking a cop to scan Fate or PARAMA. He also says he finds Parama town in a later post.

Spyre, I have no idea. I didn't get good vibes yesterday, plus I didn't like SV's wagoning-vote D1 (Spyre replaced SV). Not to mention, posts 557 and 558.

Elli's acted similar in a game that I just finished up with him. For now, he's town. Fate and DT are pure gut reads/earlier reads, but I may have to look into them more.

I think PZ is town only because he replaced Fugitive, who I have a strong belief that he wouldn't replace out as scum. I know him from a separate site and he's expressed many times that he would enjoy playing as scum, since he never seems to get said role. May not be the best reasoning, but it's all I got.

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@I-Pie
Meta link for futagive in the other site if you can.

I know him from another site, yes, but the only time he's mentioned the fact that he'd like being scum (from a quick search) was probably in an IRC channel, which I have no logs of. =/

Like I said, not the best reasoning. I also understand that if PZ does flip scum, I'm gonna be a prime target. There's also the chance that Fugi finally got a scum role and didn't feel like rereading everything and such, since he only made one post and ended up getting replaced.

But I believe that if Fugi had a scumrole or "interesting" role, he wouldn't have replaced out.

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Well, another one bites the dust, eh?

While we wait on Konowa, I'll just leave this here.

Vote: Chronopie

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If Konowa is allowed to be kept on a leash for another night, I would prefer the leash be given to Jacob.

come on Konowa hurry up and post >:(

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This is why I dislike smileys. That should be an angry/sadface. >:(

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Great, hammer a townie with a deadline impending and I'm trash?!?

My reason is mostly for asking the cop to scan Parama N1 on D1. If you can't figure out why that's a big deal now, well...

Or we could lynch Konowa. As for other alternatives, I'll have to do some rereading and such.

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EBWOP: *My reason for voting

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I had no idea that Parama was a Godfather either. So? You have to realize how bad it makes you look, though. I don't like people directing power either (aside from the SK situation we're in now), but I've seen a lot of posts doing that this game. I think that was part of my suspicion for Spyre. At least I was right in the hunch I had of one of the "caps lock alliance" members was scum. But I digress.

Also, I'd find it way more suspicious if you unvoted because Pom mentioned something rather than leave your vote. I have no trouble with your vote of Konowa at the moment, personally.

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I'm sorry what

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Oh and to start the day off, next crazy idea:

*smacks Jacob on head with newspaper*

NO

BAD JACOB

Didn't we go through this already; this is a Large Normal. There's no bastard modding here or hidden powers or anything (barring, say, cop sanities and such). Your role PM simply stated that you'd scan people as sane or insane and that it relates to the SK? Cool. Then that's what it is.

Luke's Konowa's replacement? k.

Vote: Luke

By the by, if you want to make crazy theories - Parama flipped GF and you scan people to see their sanity, right? What if we had insane cops/other PRs that act as SK-Millers of sorts? Meh, probably not best to dwell on trying to guess the setup, though. *smacks self*

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D'aww it's an axolotl. And happy scumday to Spyre.

@Jag: Dunno about Pom. Nik, I can agree with, since I really did not like Maemuki. PZ in my eyes is town. solely because the second person in that slot flaked. I said this earlier.

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Just to give everyone an idea:

17. SpyreX -

133

(+13 from SV)

10. JacobSavage - 91
4. SIR CYANIDE - 62

8. LukePukeDuke - 11 (+42 from Konowa)
14. Papa Zito - 22 (+1 from Fugitive, +28 from Farside)

6. Unsight - 39
18. InflatablePie - 37 (as of this post; +2 from Henry)
20. Nikanor - 1 (+34 from Maemuki, +3 from Julano)

12. Leafsnail - 33

15. Pomegranate - 19 (+9 from Shadow Dancer)

19. Jag Johan -

26

Most posts per playerslot: SpyreX (146)
Median posts per playerslot: Unsight/InflatablePie (39)
Least posts per playerslot: Jag Johan (26)
Average posts per playerslot: About 55
Mod posts: 58


Going solely on number of posts, I would be more than willing to pick anyone below me/Unsight. If I had to pick an order, I'd go with something like Nikanor, Pom, Jag, Leafsnail.

Again, this list isn't counting content, just post count. Just going by things off the top of my head at 6 AM, here's a different rainbow-list:

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JacobSavage*
Papa Zito

SpyreX

Unsight
SIR CYANIDE

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Leafsnail

Jag Johan
Pomegranate

Nikanor
LukePukeDuke

*I'd like to mention the highly unlikely (IMO) but possible chance of a Mafia Role Cop.

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Wait a second...

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Oh look, what a coincidence...

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... and SK will win.
So I propose: Vig and SK nk

So let me get this straight. We're going to leave the SK alive, again, even though doing so can take a risk in losing? And even though I bet you this new SK will be no help in scumhunting for what's left of today and tomorrow? Yeeaahhh, I don't like this.

How about this. We, uh, lynch the SK today. Unless (s)he only had one shot, the vig shoots tonight. Then we have one ML if there's 5 scum - if there's 6, well, the vig has to shoot right. Not to mention this is an easy way to test if this vig is a one-shot or an even-night or what have you. Sound good?

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Damn, that was a quick day. I didn't even realise it had started... sucks. I'll write more after dinner if the thread's still open.

Lynching luke was the correct option, I think. He didn't cooperate and instead randomly killed his master. The other thing I note is that I-Pie seems to be voting me for having 4 less posts on the thread than him... would you mind saying how this makes me scum?

I thought I voted Luke. o_O

*goes back to check*

I was listing everyone by postcount and then made a gut read list. Oddly enough, it's pretty much the same list.

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Yep, I'm not voting for you. I'm voting for luke. Odd reaction from you. Meh.

I'm not saying that everyone below my postcount/Unsight's is scum. I simply listed stats to show who is lurking or posting less, and it just so happens that the people posting more = I have more of a town read on them. Then again, Konowa/Luke is above me and is/was the SK. So... yeah.

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Now Playing: Social Distortion - I Was Wrong

Meh. So, since we're down to just 8 - with 20 players, if we assume 5 scum+SK then we have at least one more lynch to get right. Could be 4 scum, but I honestly can't see 6 or more since that'd be too OP.

Anyway, I take it it'll be Jag, Pom, or Leafsnail today. My vote will

most likely

go on one of the three after I do some more reading.

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Wow, I missed a lot. I skimmed through, but I assume I claim here.

Doc. First letter of my first three posts was a stupid breadcrumb.

Protected Konowa two nights and Jacob two nights. The second protect was kind of stupid in hindsight and the second two were to avoid doccing the vig shot slash protect someone who's most likely town.

Any other questions?

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Plausible, yes. Tis possible Jag could have made a lucky guess, but it would make sense with mafia, a vig and a SK.

Gee, I wonder what Spyre is.

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Yeah, I probably should have. I didn't remember that there was a shit-ton of scum on his lynch and he was probably town. *sigh*

I also should been on Elli the night he died. Boo.

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You know Spyre, between the mafia GF flip and the fact that you pushed for a mass, I expected you to claim cop.

Hmm. Well, Jacob's plan sounds okay, unless I'm missing something major here.

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So right, we now do in-depth anaylsis, and by that I mean random.org

Mine says PZ.

can I get a re-do

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I got 3,
However I don't know what that means so...

I used this post for my random. Just did 1-4 and the vanillas are in that order.

So 3 would be Leafsnail. Which I'm okay with. My re-do gave me Unsight, which I'm also okay with.

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Jacob, I don't feel comfortable voting the Nurse claim.

*refresh* nevermind

I can go with Unsight as long as Leaf gets vigged tonight. Sounds good?

Vote: Unsight

Since I'm gonna die tonight, my comments:
- Spyre/Jacob: if either of you are scum then good job.
- PZ: If you're scum then I was wrong about Fugi. I doubt this.
- Pom: Sorry for being on Konowa N1. Looks like a lot of people targeted him.
- Jag: If you're scum, great idea claiming Nurse. Although we may be able to prove if this is true or not.

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Also, if scum's still alive tomorrow, I'd go with PZ over Spyre. That's just me though.

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Hmm. It's possible Unsight/Leaf have been dabbling in bussing, but I suppose both of them wouldn't make sense. If Unsight is town, then I'd say definitely shoot Leaf.

If Unsight is scum, shoot... eh, PZ first, I suppose. Maybe. Not sure - I'm not that good at reads. You guys decide that.

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look if we hit two townies then its

5v2, and given that we now know who is left... Vig kills the remaining one

You have a point. Unless you're a mafia rolecop (?!) or Jag got lucky with claiming Nurse. Poms 100% clear since no one CCed mason.

I suppose you're right.

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Fate's breadcrumbing was unnecessary. He was either scum or stupid.

I'd totally breadcrumb PR as a VT if it meant drawing a kill away from a real vig.

II haven't got anywhere on SIR leaving breadcrums, has anyone else found anything?

Nada.

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Pie SHHHH you're gonna let it spill out damnit.

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wtf smiley

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Sorry. Hey, I mentioned that rolecop possibility thing like... way back. As in... yesterday.

...

>_>

exploded all possible routes

Giving town points to terrorists now, eh?

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I'm gonna stop postwhoring and ask everyone else - who should Pom shoot if Unsight flips scum?

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Can't I go kill zombies without a ton of pages popping up? D:

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I'm plannig to vig PZ if you flip scum, and leaf if you flip town. That's the plan.

Best part was catching Chronopie

HEY

Who was the one that pointed out him asking any cop to scan the GF?

...when we didn't even have a cop but there was a GF what

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Unless your role specifically states you can keep talking/voting/play parcheesi with me, you are allowed one informationless "bah" post and then scram til endgame.

Here it is.

Wait, there wasn't any parcheesi... was there? D:

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Yay, I fail as a doctor! >_>

I was gonna protect Navy but something told me Konowa was a better choice (apparently everyone else targeted him too), and really shoulda been on Fate/Elli/CYANIDE. The second Konowa protect was stupid as I shoulda realized they wouldn't kill the SK. In Jacob's case, I didn't want to protect a vig shot, PLUS he was pretty much 90% town, so I figured he'd be a good choice to keep alive.

At least I stayed alive and caught Chrono's cop-redirect-post. :D