Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

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Sorry guys, I thought I would have been prodded at this point but apparently I haven't. I've been RIDICULOUSLY sick for the past couple days, I'll read the thread and post again soon. >___>

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Wanting or even suggesting anything like a policy lynch for any reason that does not involve scummy things said and/or done inside of the current game is, in itself, scummy.

In particular, Blue has been pushing this prospect, and with it he has contradicted himself.

Vote: Sir Cyanide

I thought we agreed on mass lynching him due to his unpleasant and anti-feminist behaviour already. Also, the random number generator chose him twice (1/400 chance) which is a good enough reason for me to get rid of him immediately.

I thought this might have been a joke, but he doesn't stop defending a Cyanide lynch for this reason.

Pushing a wagon for someone whom hasn't done anything particularly scummy is a good vote to me.

Ah, but if I were mafia I wouldn't be half so obvious. Because then I'd anticipate receiving votes from tunnel-vision players like yourself.

In the first round, nobody generally does anything scummy anyway. I just want to get rid of a player who is likely to cause offense.

It's great that you don't think you'd be obvious, but your complete disregard for anything useful that could come out of the first day is scummy. You say that on the first day there is not much to go on. I agree with this, but at the same time you advocate a policy lynch, which does exactly the opposite of promote discussion which we can analyze in the future. If we lynch someone right away with zero reasoning, then day two becomes just as useless as day one because all of the posts from day one were just fluff centered around the policy lynch. Fluff is bad; fluff is impossible to read because it doesn't actually have anything to do with the game.

All in all, you say you want discussion at some point and yet you are absolutely in support of a lynch which would promote no discussion tomorrow. I was going to call out Cyanide for fluff in this post, but it seems that almost this whole thread has been fluff and your policy lynch is the initiator.

Vote Blue.

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Panarama+Chronopie.

Let's not get sidetracked by Blue people...

Now this...this isn't productive at all. You could at least give some reasons as to WHY you don't like some suspicion on Blue.

What information are we losing if Leafsnail is vigged and CYANIDE is lynched? (seriously, I don't know, if there's something I'm missing here feel free to explain it)

Discussion.

Yesssssss.

I think that it is

around 60%, depending on the setup.

And who ever dies tonight will be able to

help us in working out the set-up/

...

But we will also get info from the flip after the night phase, although

I think unless there are people with day-time actions

, we risk losing a pro-town player with nothing to go one, just guess work.

Stop doing that, trying to guess the setup doesn't really help anyone at all and posts like this really equate to fluff.

I hope that you're better now, if that isn't just a poor excuse.

Nope, I'm better, got work to catch up on, but I'm physically better. =P

@your case on Cyanide

: I still don't like that you're trying to defend a case that is built on such flimsy foundation. Neither of them have done anything scummy outside of Cyanide's fluff, but I addressed that - you're essentially calling them out for putting aside personal grudges and playing the game.

In other words, I'm voting CYANIDE because, honestly, I don't want to play with him and many people in this game feel the same.
Oh the drama!

May I ask why you joined a game with a player you were so sure you would want policy lynched?

My points will not be invalid tomorrow, will they?

The ones you made today will, because they are not based on anything in the game.

I love how I always get called out for pushing Policy Lynches D1. I would link another recent game where the same thing happened (dram and SpyreX were/are also in that game) and I flipped town, unsurprisingly.
Meh, but that's a meta defense which I want none of.

Being town does not excuse anti-town behavior in any way.

fos parama.

Cyanide (For the reasons I posted earlier, as a policy lynch, and as a test- if he comes up mafia,

we've got a good chance of finding another mafia

)

How is that possible if there hasn't been anything but fluff surrounding his situation?

THIS IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE BEHAVIOR BECAUSE IT IS WHITE NOISE THAT DOES NO GOOD IN FINDING SCUM MY LORD WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND.

In this wall of words the only thing you did that could even pretend to be useful was mentioning Farside's weird behavior towards you (which is weird, but I digress).

yessssssssss.

MehPlusRawr, when I'm tunneling someone I don't appreciate you coming and claiming scum.

But I don't mind it either.

HoS: MPR

I don't like your tunneling (grrrr) but I agree that MPR is being not-very-town at all, so

fos mehplusrawr.

but I couldn't really think of anything to write for Blue so I skipped it

really...

and Jag stop bandwagoning all the time, kay? thanks.

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@242: You don't mention blue in this post, yet your vote remains on him. Why?

I hope this is a joke, as my comments toward Blue in that post may be the most important part.

I hope that you're better now, if that isn't just a poor excuse.

Nope, I'm better, got work to catch up on, but I'm physically better. =P

@your case on Cyanide

: I still don't like that you're trying to defend a case that is built on such flimsy foundation. Neither of them have done anything scummy outside of Cyanide's fluff, but I addressed that - you're essentially calling them out for putting aside personal grudges and playing the game.

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Stop posting walls in 20 player games people, seriously.

I'll try to be more brief I guess.

You were joking about extreme WIFOM and accusing me of tunnel-vision, but you're suspicious of people who jumped on you you because of your "joke"?

Did I miss something here?

Can't believe I missed this - Blue, you just called one of your only real "arguments" about your policy lynching agenda a joke. You realize how bad that looks, right?[/quote]

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What happened to the Cyanide policy lynch?

It is losing its traction because policy lynches are terrible ideas.

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I still need to think for a bit...but while I'm trying to:

If you're innocent, I implore you to not to follow...

!?

Posts like these are scummeh scummeh. "OMG so confused let me think but also call someone out real quick...ok bye!"

MehPlusRawr

stop trying to set up lynches, it never works and only ends up making you look bad later.

Etc., he acts as if he has a lot of authority which is something I generally find more so in scum than in town.

He

always

does this, which is why I'm not so sure on my read of him yet. I don't understand why he does it because it's terribly scummy and doesn't help anyone, but he does.

This guy just back tracked on a huge wagon.

I agree with this and your case a couple posts before this.

fos chrono.

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Maybe you should put sarcasm tags around scummy things.

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Hell, lets have everyone comment.

The game's name is appropriate.

SpyreX might be scum; actually, people voting for Chrono using the sarcasm tags post as evidence are scummy.

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Still most confident on Blue.

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I'm not posting in caps but I might be good with a Shrine lynch. I'd really like a Blue lynch though, so that I can make sense of today's happenings.

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I like that post, Unsight. Would like a Fate response.

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I think that Blue is town, but I'm going to keep my vote on him.

I know what you mean here, but it does look bad when you say it like this you know.

Shouldn't Blue have claimed by now?

Pretty sure he already did.

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The Blue wagon will give us the most information and he pretty much gave up, AND he claimed vanilla. That's why my vote is still on him (aside from believing he is likely scum).

Don't claim scum and make this game even more ridiculous than it already is...

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I said I might be. I'm not right now.

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Parama, do you plan on ever voting?

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ever being on a wagon, rather.

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The cop should investigate either fate or parama

(assuming we have a cop. And this isn't a PR claim)

STOP DOING THAT

YOU PEOPLE

ARGH

STOP

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I'm willing to go with Shrine if the town finds a consensus, but not now.

CHRONO IS VIG TARGET.

STOP THAT

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PROTEST PROTEST PROTEST

That's asking for an MK parama

^^^SCUMMY AS HELL.

This is a joke, right?

Yeah, this is a joke. Alright.

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Since I don't get a color, does that mean I'm town?

Vote Shrinehme

.

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22 posts is like a post/page, and then when you consider how many of the pages contain nothing but fluff...

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Why is there a Shrine wagon?

Because the game wasn't moving, I think.

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I'm going back to Blue.

Unvote, Vote Blue.

Because I still think he's the best lynch.

Blue - For giving up and probably some reasons I have missed

For starting the policy lynch crap and filling the game with fluff before it ever even started, really. Then appeals to emotion and flat out giving up.

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Right, why the blue lynch? I have yet to see any actually reasons for his lynch, other than he apparently gave up?

I feel like this would be the fiftieth time I would have explained this, and I suspect that you simply aren't reading the thread, so I shall

fos

you.

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Do you feel that not reading the thread is scummy? How is it?

(I ask because I personally haven't re-read the thread and probably won't read more than pages back until we get a flip)

Not reading and/or skimming is scummy because scum wouldn't need to read to know who they want to target, whereas town would want as much information as possible to figure out their suspicions.

Not re-reading the thread before day 1 begins isn't scummy imo (I haven't re-read, but I've done ISOs of Fate and Blue).

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This isn't a 100 page game (yet) and that doesn't excuse it being more scummy than town to not read then ask a question that could be solved by reading.

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I don't take fos's very seriously, I use them just to let people know I don't like their posts.

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I don't think Blue and Shrine are scum, one or the other, so if not a Blue lynch I would like a Chrono lynch.

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WHY ARE PEOPLE FINALLY VOTING SHRINE? WAS I JUST NOT PATIENT ENOUGH? OR IS BLUE ACTUALLY SCUM?

Blue is actually scum.

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I'm always the best wagon, but Shrine is another best wagon!
Stop voting Blue you morons!

Regardless of alignment (this isn't to say that I don't think he's scum/don't care that he's scum), Blue will give us the most information

and

he simply isn't playing at this point. Not only is that simply annoying but I find it hard to believe he stopped talking when he was saved from his earlier fate because he's just SO town.

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Someone tell me why Blue is town. I mean, he has 27 posts, last posted at the end of March (right after celebrating his miracle save) and spent his most "recent" post doing...nothing.

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Come home to see I'm dead...grumble grumble.