Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1524 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:20 am

Okay soooo basically -

I'm town
SpyreX is town
Drippereth is mostly town for me

Meaning the other scum have to be in Parama/Starbuck/Pulindar/Yosarian/Anon/KMD. Woo.

Hey um also can someone give me a list of claims other than SpyreX's if there have been any?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1530 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:43 am

Parama wrote:Also, I just figured out something major. And I'm not telling what.

How pro-town!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1531 (isolation #2) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:45 am

By the way, I halfway want a SpyreX lynch today just to see if he's telling the truth, but I think I'd much rather lynch one of the four and give SpyreX a chance to either a) draw the NK or b) get a report.

Pul wrote:Yos I suspect because I feel Anon is town, and Anon made a pretty persuasive argument against both Yos and SpyreX. That's my opinion on his argument of course. Yos is pretty good though, so I'm not quite sure about him really.

That's a pretty weak reason to put someone at the top of your scumlist on page 62.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1546 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:12 am

Chances of being scum:

Anon > KMD > Starbuck > Pulindar

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1561 (isolation #4) » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:40 am

So this is noobish... but what's a SuperSaint?

And yes, results, now.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1602 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:09 pm

Kmd4390 wrote:Spy and Anon are both obvtown at this point. If Spy is somehow scum, he's a tracker too. Like Yos said and I said earlier, scum wouldn't be able to make that claim. If Spy is a scum tracker, it says nothing about his claimed targets. He could easily be lying somewhere (for example, maybe he tracked an obvtown player to find a power role and didn't want to claim that).

Yos is the most likely scum IMO. Pulindar is a close second. I guess after that, Reck is the only possibile choice with Parama being confirmed.

Vote Yosarian2
. Almost obvscum at this point.

I agree with this post.

Vote: Yos

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1619 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:15 am

I have no reason to distrust SpyreX.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1621 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:59 am

Yeah, I'll try to catch up and get some content here soon. I'm posting this in all my games: this is an incredibly stressful/busy week for me. Two mid-terms, a six minute short film project to edit, a ten minute oral Spanish presentation, and a ten page script are all due within the next five days.

Mafia has to take a backseat for a bit.

Re: this game - I'm pretty much set on lynching KMD today unless someone else can provide a reason to distrust SpyreX. Have we massclaimed yet? If so, can I get a list of claims? If we haven't massclaimed, it might be a good idea to do so today.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1631 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:04 am

I'm VT.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1636 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:01 pm

Anon -

The softclaim was an idea Kise & I had because we were sure Ythan was scum. We thought maybe we could draw a night kill by softclaiming some kind of investigative role, but it didn't work, so we dropped it. And Ythan not being scum was also unfortunate... I guess I'll need to get used to his playstyle.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1638 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm

We know for sure that one of KMD or SpyreX is lying at this juncture, and it's LyLo, so I'd rather lynch from those two.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1639 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:12 pm

Well, it's *probably* LyLo anyway. Assuming 5 scum.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1641 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:25 pm

Actually, it's because SpyreX claimed he tracked you, and you claimed roleblocked.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1644 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:15 pm

Vote: kmd

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1647 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:06 pm

...

SpyreX.

You yourself said you know he's lying because you tracked him to the victim and he claimed roleblocked. Literally, this makes no sense, unless this is some weird modding.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1651 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:14 pm

Why would there be a SK?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1654 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:16 pm

Hmm.

You're still scum for contradicting SpyreX. If you flip town, SpyreX dies.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1657 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:59 pm

If the final scum truly believes there is an SK, then they should claim. Because I'd rather give the win to well-played scum than lurkerSK.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1659 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:01 am

Kmd is scum. Pulindar is SK.

gg

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1662 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:07 am

KMD - according to SpyreX's report, if there is one scum + one SK, then I'm the only one who's clear.

xRECKONERx · Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 am

Vote: No Lynch

Good for nothing SK or scum trying to put us in 4 person mylo.

xRECKONERx · Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:42 am

Though I'm very confused as to why SpyreX isn't dead.

xRECKONERx · Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:42 pm

I want SpyreX's report.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1678 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:22 pm

I'm with SpyreX. I'm not doing this endless no lynch dance. But, for the record, SpyreX... can you list out ALL of your results from tracking for reference?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1680 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:32 pm

Why isn't Pulindar scum, exactly?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1682 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:27 am

WHERE THE FUCK ARE ANON AND PULINDAR?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1690 (isolation #26) » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:15 pm

Gonna deliberate for a bit before making my decision. As far as I'm concerned, either SpyreX is scum (100%) or Pulindar/Anon is scum (50/50). Pulindar turned out to be scum in Dollhouse Mafia (which just completed if anyone wants to meta him), and Anon I have no scumreads on, but I can't comment on an ongoing game.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1692 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:11 am

Vote: Pulindar

*cue circus/carnival music*

brb d00dz

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1696 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:54 am

Why exactly would scum need a tracker? Our power roles:

Town Godfather (what the fuck is this)
SuperSaint (doesn't visit)
Gunsmith (doesn't he just determine if someone has a gun or not?)
Jailkeeper (okay, he visits)

So really, are we expecting scum to have a tracker just to catch a gunsmith or a JK?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1699 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:38 am

How am I confirmed town?

Also, I specifically want to know if Town GF was a visiting role or not.

xRECKONERx · Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:01 am

^^

Uhh, is that a joke? Who the fuck did that?

xRECKONERx · Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:06 am

EBWOP: And who the fuck cares? It's GD, it doesn't matter, and we're in LyLo. Answer my question.

xRECKONERx · Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:59 am

I'm thinking it has to be SpyreX or Anon. You're town IMO. Odds point to SpyreX, gut points to Anon.

xRECKONERx · Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:25 pm

Vote: Anon

Yup.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1719 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:32 pm

SpyreX wrote:Except that, follow me, that kill wouldn't make sense for me
because he thinks I'm town
.

Uh what. Did you just prove that scum-SpyreX would want me alive?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1729 (isolation #35) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:43 pm

OH MY GOD

THIS WIFOM IS AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.

I AM NOT SWITCHING MY VOTE AT THIS POINT.

By the way, I don't think Anon's whole "hey, these are the possible setups" speech took into account this possibility:

Anon conveniently forgot to mention one other scenario, so he wrote:Setup N°1

1 x Mafia Godfather
3 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

...

etup N°2

1 x Mafia Godfather
1 x Mafia Tracker
2 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Godfather

ORRR... how about...

1 x Mafia Godfather
2 x Mafia Goon
1 x Unknown Mafia Power Role (rolecop?)

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

In fact, given my above scenario... Anon, you would be a scum power role and SpyreX would be the tracker, and that'd be a pretty goddamn balanced game. Funny how you completely forgot to mention that scenario, eh?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1730 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:46 pm

OH MY GOD

THIS WIFOM IS AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.

I AM NOT SWITCHING MY VOTE AT THIS POINT.

By the way, I don't think Anon's whole "hey, these are the possible setups" speech took into account this possibility:

Anon conveniently forgot to mention one other scenario, so he wrote:Setup N°1

1 x Mafia Godfather
3 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

...

Setup N°2

1 x Mafia Godfather
1 x Mafia Tracker
2 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Godfather

ORRR... how about...

1 x Mafia Godfather
2 x Mafia Goon
1 x Unknown Mafia Power Role (rolecop?)

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

In fact, given my above scenario... shit...

unvote

.

If the above scenario is true, Pulindar is the final scum power role (since Anon had THREE no visits), SpyreX is town tracker, and both Anon & I are VTs. So essentially...

Scenario 1: Pulindar/Anon is scum (leaning towards Pulindar on that one, because what're the chances Anon is the one not killing all those times?)

Scenario 2: SpyreX is scum tracker against a town light on power roles (seriously? 3 town PRs in a game this size?)

Scenario 3: Pulindar is scum power role.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1731 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:49 pm

OH MY GOD

THIS WIFOM IS AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.

I AM NOT SWITCHING MY VOTE AT THIS POINT.

By the way, I don't think Anon's whole "hey, these are the possible setups" speech took into account this possibility:

Anon conveniently forgot to mention one other scenario, so he wrote:Setup N°1

1 x Mafia Godfather
3 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

...

Setup N°2

1 x Mafia Godfather
1 x Mafia Tracker
2 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Godfather

ORRR... how about...

1 x Mafia Godfather
2 x Mafia Goon
1 x Unknown Mafia Power Role (rolecop?)

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

In fact, given my above scenario... shit...

unvote

.

If the above scenario is true, Pulindar is the final scum power role (since Anon had THREE no visits), SpyreX is town tracker, and both Anon & I are VTs. So essentially...

Scenario 1: Pulindar/Anon is scum (leaning towards Pulindar on that one, because what're the chances Anon is the one not killing all those times?)

Scenario 2: SpyreX is scum tracker against a town light on power roles (seriously? 3 town PRs in a game this size?)

Scenario 3: Pulindar is scum power role.

OH OH OH and another thing pointing towards Pulindar being a scum PR - SpyreX, you said you got no result on dramonic, right? That would point to either you being targeted by the JK, or scum having a roleblocker.

Shit, now that my brain has turned on, I'm going to need to think, because fuck whatever I've said, none of you asswipes are clear.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1732 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:50 pm

OH MY GOD

THIS WIFOM IS AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.

I AM NOT SWITCHING MY VOTE AT THIS POINT.

By the way, I don't think Anon's whole "hey, these are the possible setups" speech took into account this possibility:

Anon conveniently forgot to mention one other scenario, so he wrote:Setup N°1

1 x Mafia Godfather
3 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

...

Setup N°2

1 x Mafia Godfather
1 x Mafia Tracker
2 x Mafia Goon

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Godfather

ORRR... how about...

1 x Mafia Godfather
2 x Mafia Goon
1 x Unknown Mafia Power Role (rolecop?)

VS.

1 x Town Gunsmith
1 x Town Jailkeeper
1 x Town Tracker
1 x Town Godfather

In fact, given my above scenario... shit...

unvote

.

If the above scenario is true, Pulindar is the final scum power role (since Anon had THREE no visits), SpyreX is town tracker, and both Anon & I are VTs. So essentially...

Scenario 1: Pulindar/Anon is scum (leaning towards Pulindar on that one, because what're the chances Anon is the one not killing all those times?)

Scenario 2: SpyreX is scum tracker against a town light on power roles (seriously? 3 town PRs in a game this size?)

Scenario 3: Pulindar is scum power role.

OH OH OH and another thing pointing towards Pulindar being a scum PR - SpyreX, you said you got no result on dramonic, right? That would point to either you being targeted by the JK, or scum having a roleblocker.

Shit, now that my brain has turned on, I'm going to need to think, because fuck whatever I've said, none of you asswipes are clear.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1733 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:10 pm

All this WIFOM distracted me from the obvious facts:

Pulindar didn't hammer Anon at L-1, so he's pretty much confirmed town.

Anon was all like "Booo SpyreX isn't tracker" and shit when SpyreX claimed a guilty on KMD, while SpyreX was the one pushing for a KMD lynch.

Scum-SpyreX would've gone for the mislynch with KMD yesterday instead of fighting to get him lynched EVEN AFTER KMD CLAIMED ROLEBLOCKED.

Process of elimination and logic say

Vote: Anon

. And yes, that's final, and I'm not letting anyone WIFOM me out of it at this point. I'm not playing outguess the mod with balance concerns, I'm going to just vote Anon and see how this shit goes down.

*grabs popcorn, sits back and watches*

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1741 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:54 pm

Anon wrote:First, Spyrex voted KMD from the go when KMD hadnt even posted in thread. The speed of this vote, when kmd could have been a town watcher for example, screams that this maneuver was prepared.

- Unconvincing. The chances of a town PR visiting the night kill victim are usually slim. I would've made the same play as Tracker.

Anon wrote:Second, when KMD finally claimed and the inconsisntecies were found, kmd NEVER suspected Spyrex despite both of them being in a "at least one of us is scum" scenario.

- This also makes sense with KMD as scum and SpyreX as town. If KMD had gone NO SPYREX IS SCUM and gotten him lynched, then it would've been obvious KMD was lying and claiming there was another role interfering was the only way KMD could've made it out as something screwy going on and try to deflect the lynch elsewhere.

Anon wrote:And finally, when KMD gambitted with his "good game scum" at L-1, Spyrex hesitated when the natural reaction as a town player with a guilty result would be anything but unvoting.

- Also very unconvincing.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1743 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:03 am

lol "guilty result" misrep

SpyreX's hesitation seemed genuine. PS, I'm just checking back in to see if Anon's lynched yet. The answer is "no". What the fuck, town?

If we're not lynching Anon we need to hurry up and no lynch then. I'd be very intrigued to see how the scum (Anon) behaves at night given the events of today.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1745 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:11 am

This is the only post I will post in this topic from now on. If I am wrong about you Anon, you can bitch me out in the post-game and I'll take my lashings like a man.

Refer to my 1733 and 1741 for all future questions.

xRECKONERx · Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:59 am

We won, anyway.

SpyreX pulled an impressive bus, and I'm glad Anon & Pulindar didn't fall for it like I did.

xRECKONERx · Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:05 pm

See, Kise? I told you it wasn't black and white =P