Nikanor wrote:Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?
I am that good.
Think about it.Drippereth wrote:Nah, Ythan is nervous scum.Anon wrote:Actually Ythan reactions is as null as it can get. Will be something to evaluate after Nika's flip.
Now, if Nikanor isnt lynched by page 3 Ill be a very sad panda.
For my third town read of the day, I need to know if its DGB or Elibereth the one making the posts. Dippereth?
It's been both of us. This is Elli right now. Hi!
dramonic wrote:Also, this wagon on Nik is sooooooo scummy.
dramonic wrote:Second, the Nik wagon: Worst... Wagon... EVER...
Why is dramonic DIE SCUM DIE and clergyman town for doing basically the same thing?dramonic wrote:DGB, I see where you're coming from, but I still am kinda sceptical, I've seen Nik scum and it didn't look like that.
STOP SPAMMING THE THREAD SERIOUSLY.Ythan wrote:I thought yes and am now shocked and appalled.Haylen wrote:Guys...am I sweet and adorable? o.o
Pretty sure I have said more than you in these 12 posts.Ythan wrote:Someone has to compensate for your only having made 12 posts.
___________Hoops wrote:Nikanor is town. This wagon should be ashamed of itself.
Pulindar wrote:mmm I musta missed that. Honestly it was and accident, I mixed up this game and another where I had already claimed VT. Sorry I replaced into three games at the same time this one's moving faster, but the other already has 80 pages, and the last is newbie. I mixed up where I had already claimed.
Pulindar wrote:I had not claimed earlier (I just ISOed my posts to check) But I stand by the fact that I am VT (actually I couldn't find a claim in any of my new games I wonder where I got confused) Whatever. It happens. So, yes I claimed then. I stand by the decision because it's not a role to keep secret. There's no point in claiming a false role that I don't have.
<3Drippereth wrote:That is true... My scumdar is spinning out of control... help!Anon wrote:My theory is that Pulindar got scared when Yosa told him that vanilla claims get lynched, implied he wasnt vanilla in this game using the excuse of the another game and then when he realized someone would ask him he came up with this shit of "I wonder where I got confused".
I just cant simply let someone live after a chain of very likely lies.
Love your last few posts. The very essence of towniness. If you could bottle it you'd be a millionaire.
Pulindar wrote:A Clergyman with a Hoop
I like camn's point, pointing out breadcrumbs is scummy, but still I like ClergyHoop.
Good defenses, reasonable logic. Town lean for sure.
Pulindar, the first one is your read of clergyman at today's 12:18 PM GMT-5.Pulindar wrote:A Clergyman with a Hoop - Scummish
clergyhoops wrote:Anyways, leave Spyrex alone, vigman.
Why dont you conclude Spyrex scum in this analysis when its painfully obvious? Why not even mention it? Why even tell the vig to leave alone in a previous post?!clergyhoops wrote:Again here is the final vote-count of the day. But I'm going to green out players I think are town, and probably didn't bus Nikanor;
I wanted to greenNikanor- camn, Anon,Drippereth, Maemuki, McZombie, CSL,Ythan, Spyrex,Parama~camnandAnon, but I get a gut feeling one them might be bussing very hard. I think it's a very slim chance and not worth considering by itself. The rest of their play feels town - Anon's 775 is goodposting, and makes him probably not scum. Camn is appearing town as usual too, but I've yet to see any of her scum games and am paranoid to rule her out. I think it's likeliest there is only 0-1 scum being on the final lynch-count.
Why are you trying to bring suspicion to the most townie player ever?dramonic wrote:you yelled L-1 at L-3Drippereth wrote:Nah, it's a lynch.dramonic wrote:... I just reread... Anon is right
HooplaSerial never got above L-2 0_o
We would still very much appreciate a claim! We can get some tea and crumpets and talk about it through twlight.
What part of town shouldn't lie is hard to grasp?
Anon wrote:This is what is bothering the most:
clergyhoops wrote:Anyways, leave Spyrex alone, vigman.Why dont you conclude Spyrex scum in this analysis when its painfully obvious? Why not even mention it? Why even tell the vig to leave alone in a previous post?!clergyhoops wrote:Again here is the final vote-count of the day. But I'm going to green out players I think are town, and probably didn't bus Nikanor;
I wanted to greenNikanor- camn, Anon,Drippereth, Maemuki, McZombie, CSL,Ythan, Spyrex,Parama~camnandAnon, but I get a gut feeling one them might be bussing very hard. I think it's a very slim chance and not worth considering by itself. The rest of their play feels town - Anon's 775 is goodposting, and makes him probably not scum. Camn is appearing town as usual too, but I've yet to see any of her scum games and am paranoid to rule her out. I think it's likeliest there is only 0-1 scum being on the final lynch-count.
loldramonic wrote:It amuses me how it seems more than half the players want me dead and I'm still alive
Taking into account that dramonic isnt as talkative as clergyman, Id say they both took strong stances, in their own posting patterns, against the Nik lynch.Anon wrote:Im interested in something, Spyrex.
dramonic wrote:Also, this wagon on Nik is sooooooo scummy.dramonic wrote:Second, the Nik wagon: Worst... Wagon... EVER...Why is dramonic DIE SCUM DIE and clergyman town for doing basically the same thing?dramonic wrote:DGB, I see where you're coming from, but I still am kinda sceptical, I've seen Nik scum and it didn't look like that.
Yeah, this really feels like he knew something.dramonic wrote:you know, you should stop listening to Dripberreth fellas <<
she may be town, doesnt change she's not a good source for reads...
The thread is only 20ish pages worthy.Starbuck wrote:Hai guys! I'm one of your replacements. I apologize for my delay as I've been sick the last few days.
Any advice as to where I should start reading?
Anon wrote:Here is where I am sitting at the moment:
Fact:Nikanorscum lynched day 1 with some resistance and a possible counterwagon in CSL at some point of the day .
Theory:Scum never put all his eggs on a basket.
What does this mean?
If we assume 4 scum, which is reasonable with 17 players then I think its extremely possible that there is 1-2 scum bussing and 1-2 scum out of the wagon and very likely defending Nikanor. Considering how fast the wagon went, if I had to guess, I would go with 1 scum bussing, 1 scum defending and 1 scum with no opinion.
Interestengly enough, I have a lot of reliable town reads on the lynch wagon, except by McZombie and Spyrex. And all fit in the category of the bussing scumbag for the type of posts used to vote Nikanor.
Now, my reads in the out of the lynch wagon are less reliable. I really think dramonic is more likely the wrong townie rather than the scumbag trying to save an inevitable lynch and use wifom for defense but I could be underestimating him and get this wrong.I cant say the same of clergyhoops for obvious reasons*. Kmd, nacho and yosa are kinda ok, still not sure, and palindar like a good wine, has gotten better with every post he makes, but still MaB's scummy ghost makes me rethink this decision.
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If I had to guess right now the scumteam is Spyrex,Hoopsand some pesky one that should come up when other scumbags die in order.
Kmd, I want your case against me now. Calling me scummy with no really basis is very antitown if not scummy. It seems that its mostly a gut thing from day 1 which its pretty nonlogical.Anon wrote:Sorry kiddos but this HAS to be done today.
Vote: Spyrex.
Dramonic lynch is pretty non optymal even if he is scum, which honestly Im still pondering. And while not in disagreement with the Nacho tangent, I really think Spyrex has to go today.
Also, where the hell is Starbuck?
I dont think he would have given up if there werent at least one scum in his wagon. And considering how happy he is to die, Im starting to think we might be facing a scumplayer in our town reads.Ythan wrote:If he's going down for the good of scum then it makes sense that scum would be on the wagon. Unless the good he's doing for scum is incriminating those on his wagon? This isn't exactly a situation with which I am familiar.
Nachomamma8 wrote:Okay. I'm fine with camn voting me dead, but KMD and SpyreX?
KMD is lurking on point with me, and Spyrex isn't much better. I think that it's a really good idea to note that KMD is protesting the dramonic lynch, and he's also has a town read on someone who isn't really posting a whole lot of content.
I'm confused as to where KMD's scum read on Anon is coming from. The things about Anon he's been "saying all game" are some scummy stuff he's done on page 1. As for Anon himself, I've seen a lot of protown posts from him (SEE: ISO 15), and, as I look over Spyrex a little closer, I definitely agree with the scum read.
Camn's talk of Dramonic's vig-hunting is weird to me. The possibility of a scum gunsmith is pretty small, IMO, and if he was vig hunting, I'd think that he'd simply claim vig and get it over with. The chance of him dying without the scumteam learning anything at all would be extremely small...
Drippereth is town.
I'm still annoyed at KMD's blatant hypocrisy... And I really hate how he doesn't describe any of his reads; Anon and Mae seem like random names pulled out of a hat.
Mae is town. She's careful about the day ending too early... her read on Pulindar is wrong, though.
Parama's been looking more and more town lately. At first, I just thought he was scum buddying Drip, but he's learned how to think on his own. Needs to explain his dramonic case better, though.
Pulindar's town. I've already explained this, though.
Spyrex is not as scummy as KMD, but he's still pretty scummy.
Starbuck/McZombie = Null. I didn't know McZombie was ever in this game...
Weaboo is... town? Maybe? I don't know, he need to post more.
Not sure about Yosarian2 lately. But he's town for right now because he definitely hasn't done anything to make me think differently.
Ythan is Ythan. He posts so much I really don't have a read on him... I don't find myself agreeing with him a whole lot, and I hated his attacks on Pulindar, so probably cum.
Then he 180s on him and calls him town after Pulindar replaces. This reduces the likeliness of scumpartnership like in a 100%, specially considering how likely Pulindar was about to be lynched at that period of time.Nachomamma8 wrote:Now I'm just trying to win the race. You aren't helping, by the way...Yosarian2 wrote: Massive defending of confirmed scum?
Vote MaB for 2010!
Typical attack on a townie player while not trying to forget about his scumpartner, variation of "Vote:town, FoS:scumpartner" maneuver. Yes, this means kmd town, spyrex scum.Nachomama wrote:KMD is lurking on point with me, and Spyrex isn't much better. I think that it's a really good idea to note that KMD is protesting the dramonic lynch, and he's also has a town read on someone who isn't really posting a whole lot of content.
All of the rest of his reads are less reliable but Id say that drip, kmd, mae and pulindar are town just for the security of the reads (massive buddying) and there is a big question mark in spyrex's, zombie's, weaboo's and yosa2's heads, just for the fencesitting of the read.Nachomama wrote:Spyrex is not as scummy as KMD, but he's still pretty scummy.
Yeah, pretend Im nacho for a secondSpyreX wrote:Both quotes you gave pair KMD and I together BUT I'm the scum and KMD is town?
And he left out dramonic at all and that's no bells?
Woooossshhhh
Anon wrote:Ive read tons of games with Spyrex town. Natural leader, trying to get a good grip of the wagons and commenting a lot of what there had to be commented. Never never in the life you see him as town posting two lines in his first post in a game, never in the life you see him lurking in day 1, even if the day lasted minutes. He knows that as town he is very likely to get night killed so he has to play day 1.
What gives you the impression Im "pretending" to scumhunt?Yosa2 wrote:Nothing Anon has done feels like real scumhunting; it all feels like a scum pretending to scumhunt.
Yosa2 wrote:Besides that, Anon has done pretty much no scumhunting all game
Yosa2 wrote:other then tunneling on Spyrex without any good reason.
Anon wrote: If we assume 4 scum, which is reasonable with 17 players then I think its extremely possible that there is 1-2 scum bussing and 1-2 scum out of the wagon and very likely defending Nikanor. Considering how fast the wagon went, if I had to guess, I would go with 1 scum bussing, 1 scum defending and 1 scum with no opinion.
Interestengly enough, I have a lot of reliable town reads on the lynch wagon, except by McZombie and Spyrex. And all fit in the category of the bussing scumbag for the type of posts used to vote Nikanor.
Yosa2 wrote: and he never even mentioned Nacho.
Anon wrote:Nachomann voting camn using competing wagon ftw is scummy as hell knowing the principal wagon was on scum.
So Yosa2, should we lynch you for bullshitting the thread with lies or you want to lrn 2 read before posting?Anon wrote:Dramonic lynch is pretty non optymal even if he is scum, which honestly Im still pondering. And while not in disagreement with the Nacho tangent, I really think Spyrex has to go today.
Good fakeclaim.Drippereth wrote:Is it really a vacation, or a case of "a good fakeclaim takes an eternity?"
Yes, like I proving you wrong in saying I hadnt scumhunted AT at ALL.Yosa wrote:Awesome, now perhaps we'll get somewhere here.
How is Spyrex better than me in the scumhunting department?
I cant fight your gut.Yosa2 wrote:Eh. Like I said, it's gut. A bunch of your posts, specfically, feel off to me.
When I just proved you wrong in telling you that I WAS THE ONE that started with the vote analysis.Yosa2 wrote:I dislike the way you were attacking Spyrex. DGB, I completly understand why she's attacking Spyrex; she's doing one of those vote analyis "there's always one scum on the wagon"