one of the most lurktastic of lurkers I've ever seen (replaces out of 90% of games I've seen them in kind of lurker).
Obviously needs to die now.
Tar, I have a lot of respect for you and imma let you finish, but can you explain what you are talking about here?Tarhalindur wrote:... And there's the first slip of the game.Cyberbob wrote:Man, you guys take the RVS way further than anything I've seen before.
Unvote: Riceballtail, Vote: Cyberbob
Yo Exalt. I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but this is the best post quoting me of all time.Exalt wrote:Yo RayFrost. I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but this is one of the best questions in Mafia 104 - Revenge of the Crimson King of all time.RayFrost wrote:Tar, I have a lot of respect for you and imma let you finish, but can you explain what you are talking about here?
What cyberbob said is true.swimmer4lyfe wrote: I think this is the scummiest post here. It's pretty obvious what Tar is referring to. People are RVSing it up, and usually the person that tries to show themselves as serious and waiting for RVS to be up is very likely to be scum.
I think its silly to ask Tar to clarify, and shows a subtle connection between you and Cyberbob.
Vote: RayFrost
1. I'm overly defensive, get over it.MonkeyMan576 wrote: RF's post here seems overly defensive. Often if someone is overexplaining their actions it's because they have a guilty conscience. The RF/CB connection seems plausable.
Unvote:
Vote: RayFrost
ITT monkeyboy tries to convince the town that defending yourself to anything above some arbitrary extent is a scum tell.MonkeyMan576 wrote:I explained that over-defensiveness indicates guilty conscience.Glork wrote:MonkeyMan, how is Ray beingoverlydefensive, and how does being defensive make Ray more likely to be scum?
I just think that the passion of his defence(it didn't really require the five or so sentences that he posted) wasn't equal to the level of attack.
Is this VP or A?Merkabah wrote:What? I don't remember seeing this from you before.Rayfrost wrote:3. I fail as town, so yeah... I do have a guilty conscience.
But was he town or scum?Wicked wrote:MonkeyMan has made bad attacks like this before in the last game I played with him, but he seems to be doing it more this game.
While Ray has been wordy, I don't think it's overdefensive just yet. He is a typically long winded poster.
I didn't realize you had voted me. I've skimmed your posts cuz they are tl;dr for me. (seriously, do youWickedestjr wrote:I disagree. I think RF defended himself enough.MonkeyMan wrote:RF's post here seems overly defensive. Often if someone is overexplaining their actions it's because they have a guilty conscience. The RF/CB connection seems plausable.
Then why did you ignore my vote for you?Rayfrost wrote:4. The reason of the person quoting me for voting me was crappy, but the game is barely beginning, so I consider it valid to respond to any points made against me rather than ignoring it. It does this thing called promoting discussion.
I've been in multiple games with you and you've yet to be active in any of them... >.>" you've been replacedVaya wrote:False.RayFrost wrote:Vaya never posts content within the first ten pages.
True story.
I don't need a prod, I'll get caught up here in a little bit(within the next few days).
1. tar didn'tswimmer4lyfe wrote:I know the difference between overdefensiveness and defending oneself. Yours felt over the top.RayFrost wrote:overdefensiveness is a scum tell only when you can tell the difference between it and defending yourself
your "Scum tell" on me is asking Tar for clarification because I didn't understand.
That's why it is a crap case.
My "scum tell" is Cyber's attempt to stay out of the spotlight, which I've already explained. Your subtle defense of him is noted, and I don't believe you when you say you don't understand. I found it to be obvious.
Tar has also stated pretty much exactly what I have said in that regards...why no suspicion on him?
I've already explained what the personal scumtell is. Maybe you should read the thread.Cyberbob wrote: - What is this "personal scumtell", exactly, and how is it applicable to both myself and Ray? I mean inductive logic is terrible at the best of times, but you're taking it one step further here.
- The reasons for your case being bad have already been covered. I don't feel like repeating what other people have said on the very same page.
How am I putting words in your mouth?
This is putting words into my mouth:
Cyberbob wrote: You've got a serious self-fulfilling prophecy going on here, my friend. I'd bet a lot of money that if you'd been ignored you'd be going on about "omg scum coverup I'M ONTO SOMETHING HERE" instead
third party mason jester rogue.MonkeyMan576 wrote:Well, I know I'm town. You're basically claiming 3rd party or scum, which is it?RayFrost wrote:You said "in the town"MonkeyMan576 wrote:You're agreeing to being not-town. You're worse.
that includes scum/3rd party/town
null tell.
you spoke in asbolutes again
fail
I don't, nice misrep though.swimmer4lyfe wrote:hey monkey man, look, someone thinks I'm 100% scum.RayFrost wrote:How is swimmer town, Amished?
Isn't that what you're voting me for? Why aren't you voting him?
I said it was the way I roll to defend myself at length. <--- did you know this was the context?Glork wrote:That doesn't make any sense. "The way that he rolls" is to defend himself when attacked. You just called that both not-scummy and scummy in the same post.swimmer4lyfe wrote:No, it's not scummy to defend yourself. It is scummy to say "this is how I roll, just deal with it" when that "way that he rolls" is scummy.
Unvote, Vote: Swimmer
Kise wrote: @Big Willy - Do you remember in Day & Night that whole Monkey Vs. BC situation? Both flipped town, and the case against Monkey was that he said BC was overreacting. Would you say we're seeing similar words/thought patterns from Monkey here? I need a 2nd opinion.
*drowns in a half inch pool of muddy water*swimmer4lyfe wrote:exalt you need to go back to grade school you dyslexic moron instead of banging on the keyboard with your baby rattle
Like your vote isn't?Empking wrote:Isn't that pretty weak?Glork wrote:Kise wrote:I think they either need to kill the noise, or become the D1 & D2 lynches.Unvote, Vote: Kisesolely for the second half of that question. Two people who can't get along with each other is NOT a reason to lead two lynches. Makes me wonder if you're hoping someone will bite on the chance for a pair of early-game mislynches.
Uh-huh, me using the fact I saw him play similarly o this as aMonkeyMan576 wrote:RayFrost wrote: Exalt is Exalt
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Now that we know Exalt was a mafia godfather, time to look at who was defending him...
sounds like there could be a connection here...
FOS: RayFrost
I agree with the swimmer & kise thingsSocrates wrote:Quickly once over: Kise probably isn't a member of the Jupiter Mafia, though I guess if there are two mafia groups he could be on the other one.
Swimmer is less likely to be a scum buddy than Monkeyman based on the post where Exalt origionally voted for swimmer.
Merkabah is not a member of the jupiter mafia.
Rayfrost declared Exalt to be town earlier. Not damning, but worth noting.
I agree with this post, but I like a swimmer lynch moar.xRECKONERx wrote:SolemnJ wrote:vote monkeyman
He seems like pseudo-protown.
His playstyle is circular, overexaggerating, and basically not really helpful; just seeming helpful.
Sorry for inactivity, especially since its so different from my other mafia.
I keep forgetting to post here after I post there.
Huge Fucking Finger of Suspicion: SolemnJ
Did you really just parrot what other people have been saying about MM, then said he's not being helpful but is only APPEARING helpful? If anything, I'd say you (aka Lurky McLurkerson) are the one who is being most unhelpful. I'm tempted to switch my vote to you... but I still like the MM lynch more.
swimmer is more likely to beSocrates wrote:meh, as I said it isn't some damning piece of evidence that deserves being wagonned over, but it might be an interesting point to remember for later, as it certainly doesn't argueConfused I had meta, my meta was wrong. This worth noting?againstyou being exalt's scumbuddy.
If you agree with my point about swimmer, then why do you like his lynch more than Monkey? (have you said this already? I didn't check.)