Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

[Lowell]

What up, happy people? Lowell is here. All will soon be revealed.

I'm impressed with the hilariously productive town we've got here so far. Not that you really need me, but at some point I'll read through and post my thoughts, making all things clear. Give me a couple of days.

[Lowell]

What up, happy people? Lowell is here. All will soon be revealed.

I'm impressed with the hilariously productive town we've got here so far. Not that you really need me, but at some point I'll read through and post my thoughts, making all things clear. Give me a couple of days.

Anyway you can do this faster, considering we're sitting on the brink of a lynch right now?

Won't have a ton of time to commit until Friday. On Friday, if we're still going, I'll give a full read-through and cast a glorious vote.

[Lowell]

I've started my reread. No one hammer in the next 24 hours, please. I don't want to not get my thoughts out there before night.

[Lowell]

Starting from the beginning. Usually I don't do this, but I'm going to use post hoc info while reading through.

20s- rofl and sera lead oozing wagon [+, obv]
29, 31- rofl and sera acknowledge each other [mason buddies]
46- caboose joins iamausername in voting alvinz [+]
49- korts votes sera [-, derailment of ogb wagon]
76- mufasa bizairrely claims "Jack of All Trades" [turns out to be true...]
93- IAUN points out mufasa wouldn't know his name [++, wrong, obv, but good logic]
94- charter agrees
101- caboose defends mufasa's claim
104- IAUN chides caboose for playing OGB's game [+]
127- axel cites precedence to say mufasa is crazy, not scummy [+, would be EASY to jump on this wagon!]
128- Spyrex votes OGB [+, policy lynch]
133- ekim votes OGB
134- mix votes mufasa [-, opportunistic, right after OGB threat]
136- starbuck votes mufasa
138- inhim votes caboose
142- rofl explains mufasa's motivation [+, true]
156- mufasa and OGB tied w/ 4 votes
157- skitzer votes mufasa [-, derailment?]
181- sera agrees w/ rofl, votes skitzer [-, derailment of OGB]
180s- caboose ominously warns all to lynch alvinz [+, role?]
190- good post my howard, votes korts for bad case on sera [+]
196- spy keeps pushing OGB wagon, questions others [+ +]
204- IAUN votes skitzer for pushing mufasa wagon [+]
208- inhim votes sera
210- rofl supports death for OGB, sera, or skitzer
211- spy continues to support rofl
213- mixologist votes OGB [+, good save to post 134]
225- inhim votes OGB, says howard and korts same faction
231- X jumps from OGB, votes mufasa [??? why?]
232- alvinz votes OGB
253- mufasa leads w/ 7 votes, OGB 5
269- X, uh, again unvotes, votes mufasa [-, ???]
277- sera votes inhim [+, not italian]
282- IAUN votes OGB [+, regains bandwagon momentum]
286- rofl gives scumlist
303- OGB leads w/ 6 votes (rofl, spy, ekim, mix, alvinz, IAUN)
315- tubby votes OGB
323- charter abadons mufasa, votes OGB
324- starbuck joins OGB wagon
330- OGB offers no defense
331- korts votes OGB
334- howard votes darkdude [???]
335- axel votes OGB due to 330 [+]
340- mufasa votes OGB, hammers
345- scum die horrible deaths (OGB-russian; ThAdmiral/inhim- Italian)
357- rofl votes sera
359- charter votes axel
363- korts votes sera
367- tajo votes sera
368- starbuck votes sera
369- spy votes starbuck
371- mufasa votes sera
372- rofl points out all scum on mufasa, argues against killing him [+]
380- sera quasi-claims mason
395- howard votes alvinz, no explaination
414- alvinz votes caboose
417- spy votes sera
419- tubby votes starbuck
421- tajo uses back info to determine alignment [+, mostly]
422- tajo votes caboose
430- caboose has role-based info skitzer is scum, and alvinz is scum
431- rofl switches, vote alvinz
432- spy join alvinz wagon
434- darkdude votes alvinz
435- axel votes alvinz
436- mufasa votes alvinz
437- tubby votes alvinz
438- starbuck votes alvinz
439- ekim votes alvinz
452- alvinz leads w/ 9 votes
464- alvinz submits last-minute defense
465- X hammers [+]
alvinz dies, scum, several others die, town
483- charter votes darkdude for trying to save alvinz [-]
484- ekim votes darkdude for defending both russians [+]
492- tajo votes howard for alvinz dying speech [-, disagree, think this clears howard of being russian]
500- tubby claims rofl's mason partner
515- tajo promotes massclaim [+, gut feeling]
521- spy votes darkdude
526- dark admits to "faking" to look town [+, gut feeling]
527- howard votes tajo
528- sera votes darkdude
529- X votes darkdude
532- IAUN votes darkdude
535- DD claims vanilla
539- korts votes sera
540- ekim votes sera
556- sera claims to have a gun, but can't use it [+, gut feeling]
557- caboose votes sera
559- sera elaborates [+]
562- caboose unvotes, votes dd
567- spy votes sera
579- tubby votes sera for half-assed claim [+]
584- X claims sera's partner
586- spy votes dd
607- korts votes DD, lynch -1
626- DD leads w/ 7 votes

Thoughts as I read:

axel- town. Post 127 would NEVER be made by a scum, in light of mufasa's alignment

rofl- for the second game in a row, is my hero

korts- possible derailment of OGB wason in 49, scum w/ OGB?

tubby- strong townvibe from his few posts, post 500 confirms

charter- ditto on townvibe

caboose- TOWN. probably not italian (singled out by inhim out of nowhere), definatly not russian (first to point finger at alvinz)

spyrex- DEFINATELY not russian, led the wagon on OGB w/ rofl. Very town, but follows rofl a lot

sera- possible partner to OGB, not partner to inhim (277). I buy the claim.

X- possible partner to OGB based on 231, OBVIOUS derailment. his confirmation of sera is a point in his favor. scum could have easily exploited it as an opportunity to call his partner confirmed town

darkdude- probably not russian (434); in spite of myself, 526 makes me think he's town

tajo- get a strong town vibe from his D3 posts

Some thoughts:
1) Count me among those sold by DD's hilarious explanation in 526. WIFOM notwithstanding, it's almost too bizarre to fake
2) I don't buy the case on Sera either. His claim fits with what we know from his partner, and I doubt he'd create such a convoluted defense if he weren't sure it would exonerate him.
3) Some pro-town players:
Spy
populartajo
caboose
tubby
4) Some scummy players:
korts
howard

I'll vote for DD if it comes down to it, since his role seems to be meaningless, but there are better options. I'd like to see pressure here.

vote korts

[Lowell]

@korts- I had X in my scummy list as well until 584, which struck me as very pro-town. I don't really know what to do with him now. People who aren't on the lists aren't cleared, they're just the ones I don't have clear reads on. I agree that he looked scummy prior to the OGB wagon (231 and 269 in particular look like derailment)

Regarding caboose, I was making the notes as I read. I came first to the conclusion that he wasn't russian (too early and too pointless to bus alvinz out of nowhere) then that he wasn't italian (likewise, inhim targeted him completely out of the blue and they really got into it). I synthesized that (plus his being right about alvinz) to call him town.

And yes, I realized as I got to the later pages that mixologist is me. I didn't have much to say about him one way or the other while he was in, though, so I figured what the hell, might as well leave my thoughts as is for accuracy's sake. If for no other reason, interactions with him reveal more if I keep an honest account of his playstyle and my (non-biased) view of it prior to taking over the role.

[Lowell]

@X- Scum are looking for scum just like the rest of us. I appreciate the compliment that they'll decide who to kill based on my list, though I somehow doubt it.

@axel- the post by post is useful to me, helps me remember things when I look over it at the end and see bigger trends.

In other news, I echo axel. The dd kill is fine.

[Lowell]

I'm not thrilled with X's 665 yesterday or 673 today. They seem to "OMG please don't help scum OMG" for my liking.

vote X

[Lowell]

I like howard's 708, particuarly his observation of korts' fascination with caboose.

[Lowell]

I'm a little behind after missing a couple of days, but can someone tell me why knowing which mafia group we're looking for matters?

[Lowell]

@howard- What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this?

[Lowell]

Woah I got votes. Not cool. Someone tell me what I've done wrong.

[Lowell]

charter and I are mason buddies, though I cannot vouch for his towniness. Only mine.

Just thought I'd throw that out there, if anyone cares.

[Lowell]

@tajo- I don't think charter's scum. I'm saying I don't have any role-based verification that he isn't. And I'll hold off on the name of the masonry, unless everyone really thinks it's necessary. Having the name out there will make things a bit easier for scum, I suspect.

[Lowell]

Oh nevermind charter already claimed it. Whatever. Missed that post.

[Lowell]

@howard- no where in my role does it say the word "mason", only neighborhood. But we can talk at night, which to me makes it a mason group.

[Lowell]

working on the idea that charter is probably town,

unvote, vote populartajo

. The case on him sounds fine.

[Lowell]

See, charter?

[Lowell]

I'd support a massclaim. Why not. I doubt it will do much though.

[Lowell]

I'll be back in action hopefully by tomorrow. I'll address the wagon on me, but offhand I'd say X's 901 is the most suspicious. I will try to post more content, but justifying lurker-votes at this stage isn't productive.

[Lowell]

@ekiM's 903- I've considered the possibility charter is scum. I just don't find it likely that he is. Alos, in my role PM I didn't think the word "neighborhood" was significant, and called it by what we essentially are: masons. And my reason for doubting the efficacy of a massclaim is that scum have seen enough to reason out what kind of roles are possible, or have possibly already claimed and not been called out on it.

901 is bad for justifying lurkervotes. 903 is bad for shotgunning, and in particular the passage where ekim "questions" the kill of spyrex looks bad. In general, this post has the feel of someone who is trying to position himself as being active and pro-town, but I don't see that much that really hits hard. Scum do this as the field shrinks.

unvote, vote ekim

[Lowell]

... also, charter's defense of me suggests he's town. A scum mason-buddy wouldn't try very hard to prevent his partner from being lynched. It would exonerate him and give him a clear path to victory were the town-buddy to die.

[Lowell]

People, Lowell is town, unvote him.

Listen to the man. Let's make something happen with ekim.

[Lowell]

Also, can we notice how sera comes back after disappearing, only to casually drop the gem that the leading vote getter is his first choice for lynch, and the second vote-getter is his second choice?

[Lowell]

unvote, vote X

better him than me.

[Lowell]

@sera- I obviously approve of this plan

[Lowell]

except it's still idiotic to kill me, day or night.

[Lowell]

Oops, I just realized I forgot a death.

Lowell is dead as well.

Dude... that's low.