Mafia 93 - A Roccisi Summer - Over!

darkdude · Post Post #144 (isolation #0) » Mon May 18, 2009 8:44 am

I think both OGB and Mufasa are town. Unfortunately I don't have good picks for scum yet.

darkdude · Post Post #194 (isolation #1) » Mon May 18, 2009 4:17 pm

I doubt OGB is scum because scum would try to use the alt account to their advantage. If they challenge people to find their other accounts and look up meta it would be disadvantageous for them. Plus the aforementioned thing - it's just unnecessary attention which scum would avoid.

Distracting town is bad, but I don't think in this case makes it more likely for OGB to be scum.

My initial reaction on Mufasa was indeed, "too stupid to be scum". There is meta suggesting that he is capable of this stupidity, but that's just a null tell. If there are examples of him doing this as scum, perhaps we can get a better read. But I'm too lazy to go on a meta hunt, sorry.

darkdude · Post Post #223 (isolation #2) » Tue May 19, 2009 3:35 pm

HowardRoark wrote:
darkdude (194) wrote:I doubt OGB is scum because scum would try to use the alt account to their advantage.
Complete WIFOM.

Since when isn't there WIFOM? I'm trying to guess the WIFOM layer here, and it seem to me it's more likely he's town.

darkdude · Post Post #275 (isolation #3) » Thu May 21, 2009 1:26 pm

charter wrote:I'd also like to say, that Mufasa later said he couldn't vig. Something the mafia cannot fake easily. Just increases his scumminess tenfold.

I was actually thinking that scum would try to disguise their NK as a vigging. Wouldn't this point mufasa more towards town?

darkdude · Post Post #299 (isolation #4) » Fri May 22, 2009 1:21 pm

I don't understand why some think Mufasa is scum but not OGB or vice versa. Anyone care to explain?

darkdude · Post Post #332 (isolation #5) » Sun May 24, 2009 6:02 am

Implying that the two, completely independent cases are actually connected, and trying to set up a Mufasa-OGB town/town or scum/scum dichotomy. This is not just a useless comment, it is downright scummy.

They are "connected" by similarity. Both of them did nonsensical stuff, so why would one case be scummy and another not?

darkdude · Post Post #360 (isolation #6) » Wed May 27, 2009 5:49 pm

Seraphim is correct. I was not putting anywhere near as much effort as I have in my past games. I always read everything, but I found that I just had no sense of anyone's alignment except that thing on OGB and Mufasa.

I think now that we have some known alignments and information to work with, I'll be more active.

I think we should look more at Tubby. In my only game with him (the former mini-version of this semi-open setup run by TDC, actually), he was my scum buddy and he basically lurked entire days through posting only weak opinions (which usually followed the common consensus) and promising he'll "look at" some people/stuff.

Of course, maybe he does this as town as well, so we need meta check.

Rofl thinks Seraphim is Italian scum because he's voting me. I was sort of expecting it though, given my lurking and his experience playing with me before as he stated. And if he is scum, why Italian? Would being the Russian faction change his method or choice of attack? I doubt it.

I also think Korts is town.

darkdude · Post Post #381 (isolation #7) » Thu May 28, 2009 12:04 pm

especially because you don't even come to a hard conclusion of any kind

No I don't have a conclusion as I'm too lazy to do a meta check on him right now. Really.

I think rofl spyre and axel are town, since they are so motivated, going through all those past posts. I can hardly see scum putting in that much effort.

I don't think Korts being blocked should be the default explanation for the lack of Italian NK. There are so many other possible explanations.

Seeing as how there was 1 kill Night 0 but most likely 3 attempts Night 1, and 2 scum groups, I doubt that one scum group was able to kill Night 0 while the other was not. So this would imply the third kill was from a SK who also killed Night 0.

darkdude · Post Post #382 (isolation #8) » Thu May 28, 2009 12:06 pm

Most of your case consists solely of ThAdmiral making mentions to me. However, up until now, I don't think I've ever mentioned Admiral in ANY of my posts. ThAd was most likely, like you say in regards to darkdude, laying groundwork for future mislynches.

If you're using this to defend yourself shouldn't you take your vote off me?

darkdude · Post Post #383 (isolation #9) » Thu May 28, 2009 12:07 pm

And why did you feel like claiming?

darkdude · Post Post #434 (isolation #10) » Sat May 30, 2009 1:55 pm

Hm...

Vote: alvinz

darkdude · Post Post #460 (isolation #11) » Sun May 31, 2009 6:47 am

Alvinz should say something before he is hammered.

darkdude · Post Post #473 (isolation #12) » Sun May 31, 2009 4:51 pm

Alvinz's post-hammer post seems town.

Unvote]

X didn't unvote before voting so let's hope that wasn't the actual hammer.

darkdude · Post Post #526 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:22 pm

Regarding me "last ditch attempt to save Alvinz"

Actually, I reread the rules before doing this. The rules say unvotes were not necessary, so by that time I already knew that Alvinz was the lynch.

The reason I did that was because I actually did think that Alvinz's "post-lynch" post made him likely to be town, and Caboose was somehow wrong. In which case, my attempt to save Alvinz would appear pro-town after the flip.

Yes, I actually faked my play to try to look pro-town. Why? Well I'm seriously sucking ass in this game and can't play well or even make much of an effort. First time playing a Large game, I think the reason for this is I can't concentrate on this many players.

Korts is very weird for saying we can't be sure that the Night 0 kill was not the work of the compulsive vig. Even though he says he has extra info, he should be well aware that it is logical for us to come to that conclusion.

Based on Seraphim's attack on Alvinz Seraphim is less likely to be Russian.

darkdude · Post Post #535 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:06 pm

Vanilla

darkdude · Post Post #537 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:08 pm

Sorry for not able to play properly, believe me I've tried

So I guess the only thing left is to laugh at the ridiculousness of this whole thing after I flip

For the lulz!

darkdude · Post Post #563 (isolation #16) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:34 am

I believe Seraphim's claim.

darkdude · Post Post #573 (isolation #17) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:06 pm

I can see a myriad of reasons for scum to make this statement and few for a town to leave it at that.

Can you tell me the details please? It would help me in the future.

darkdude · Post Post #577 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:47 am

IF you're not scum, after the game I'll be happy to elaborate on why that feels like a gigantic pile of mess.

Why must it wait? It's supposed to be something incriminating, right? If you cannot reveal it you cannot say it is a point against me.

I just see no reason why me saying that I believe seraphim's claim is scummy. I knew why I had votes before due to lurking and not doing much, but this is something I don't understand.

darkdude · Post Post #598 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:12 pm

ust because YOU can't see it doesn't mean its there. Additionally, a minor point like that IS classic wiggling room to escape a lynch. Not happening unless, after the game, I know your inquiry is honest.

So you are saying it is not necessary for you to do anything when asked to elaborate on something you've pointed out as only having "a few [reasons] for a town to leave it at that"...

darkdude · Post Post #647 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:40 am

SpyreX wrote:.... Wow. If that is an accurate paraphrase it just reeks of scum.

How?

darkdude · Post Post #655 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:37 pm

For fuckssake, at least pretend to want to help.

Excuse me for feeling guilty for being a useless player.

I don't think it's of any use to replace out at this stage, right?

darkdude · Post Post #660 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:38 am

I call it the morale snowball effect. Right now I'm lagging so much in this game it seems impossible to catch up. Should have replaced out earlier I suppose.

Also, if you're lynched and turn up town, you'd be doing the whole town a favor by giving us a complete and unabridged version of your thoughts beforehand.

That's what I've been doing basically. I post whatever comes to mind (which isn't much, obviously).