Mafia 95 - Quick & Dirty - Game Over!

[Lamont_Cranston]

First post!

This is gonna be awesome!!

Vote consoM

Obvalt.

[Lamont_Cranston]

First post!

This is gonna be awesome!!

Vote consoM

Obvalt.

ALTCLAIM NOW OR DIE!

[Lamont_Cranston]

Vote: Lamont Cranston

For pulling the wool over the town's eyes in Robot Chicken Mafia. *shakes fist angrily*

LOL!

[Lamont_Cranston]

First post!

This is gonna be awesome!!

Vote consoM

Obvalt.


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ALTCLAIM NOW OR DIE!

What are you on about?

I hope you're not going to share every little LOL that comes to your mind, are you...?

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Forum: Queue Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:12 am Subject: Newbie Game List (Players & Moderators)
lets see how much fun i can have with this account.
/in 4 next.

Ya, you wouldn't want that, I LOL alot

[Lamont_Cranston]

HAI GUYZ

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Deadline is Monday, June 8th at 10 PM Eastern time.

We have a bit over a week left before deadline, in case anyone missed it.

Vote: Phoebus

I think he has a better role than me.. I'm jealous..

Say what?

unvote: xRECKONERx
vote: Kise

DOUBLE FoS Kise

I need obvAlt-M to alt-claim first then I'll join that wagon in a heartbeat.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Fritzler has instructed me to

vote: Xylthixlm

.

Inside baseball?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Replies: 660
Views: 17610
Forum: Queue Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:12 am Subject: Newbie Game List (Players & Moderators)
lets see how much fun i can have with this account.
/in 4 next.

Oscar Mike Golf Uniform Sierra??

[Lamont_Cranston]

Sam, there is no Fritzler in this game...

[Lamont_Cranston]

Sam, there is no Fritzler in this game...

He still exists outside the game.

Well then that could be a modkillable offense as discussing the game outside this thread is FORBIDDEN.

[Lamont_Cranston]

It's a random vote with a silly reason. What's the big deal?

You underestimate the depth of my seething hatred of Fritzler

OK its META

This crap is now officially off my radar.

ALT-M, ALT-CLAIM NOW OR DIE!

[Lamont_Cranston]

Because Lamont is acting like he has ADHD, which gives me the impression he's a 2nd account for someone, or he's looking for a subtle way of getting himself lynched.

It was just a question anyway. Calm down, Papa.

Ok enough of this talk: Click HERE

[Lamont_Cranston]

He is an admitted ALT. I wanna know who he is. He should willingly reveal.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ok well, my main goal was drawing major attention to the fact he's an alt.

Now back to the real action.

Unvote, Vote Kise

@Xyl: Can you explain your vote on Papa, I'm not getting it; shouldn't you be votingDizzy?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Btw kise-Phoebus scum buddies possibility here.

[Lamont_Cranston]

sorry mod

unvote Papa Zito, vote Lamont_Cranston

So far I haven't liked either of your votes. I was about to dig in on your Papa vote but when I got to the end of the thread I saw you changed it.

Kise is so over-reacting here. All I did was do the game a favor and pointed out an obv-alt.

@Kise: Your comment to Phoebus can easily be interpreted as RVS scum bussing which is common. However, there are other angles to explore as well.

What did you think of Xyl's Papa vote? Would you have voted for Papa yourself?

@Xyl: Please explain your Papa vote. What do you think of Dizzy's statement and vote for you?

@Inhim: Please explain how "we have scum" in Papa. Why do you agree with Xyl's vote?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Are you & Papa in cahoots? Not to be rude, but you're riding his jock quite hard in this post here^

And for the last time, I'm NOT an alt account. When did I even give you the impression I was an alt?

*snatches Lamont's crack pipe from him*

I never said YOU were an alt. I only said ConsoM was.

I just want your opinion on my questions please. It could be that we both have crap cases on each other.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Lamont: Reading is tech. Dizzy's vote is annoying but not scummy.

@Xyl: Can you explain your vote on Papa, I'm not getting it; shouldn't you be votingDizzy?

Expressing confusion is scummy.

Saying "expressing confusion is scummy" to not explain one's vote is scummy. I don't like your Papa vote, explain it.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Lamont is making joke-ish posts, I don't think that's any reason to lynch.

So why am I catching shit from Zito because of MY joke post?

If it was a joke is there some way you can prove that, like meta or something?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Well first off, my vote wasn't a joke but my claim or die thing was RVS over the top off course

Can you provide some meta why you would make such a joke?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ok my apologies for not understanding your statement. I will analyze now.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Fritzler has instructed me to

vote: Xylthixlm

.

wat

I shouldn't be confused on page 1. Dammit.

Both Izzy and Fritzler are frequenters of scumchat, that's most likely where she got the recommendation.

With that said I too will

vote: Xylthixlm

And so you choose to vote with scum?? Oh no wait now it's:

Sam, there is no Fritzler in this game...

He still exists outside the game.

Someone needs to reread the site rule about outside influences

Whoops! I'm allowing outside influences to influence my vote, namely: I'm policy voting you

Whichever the truth is I don't like your Xyl vote. I don't think policy voting a valuable player is pro-town.

Unvote, Vote Sam

[Lamont_Cranston]

Wait.. did you just bait me into quasi-RC'ing?

By Meta I meant another game where you both played together where the joke would make sense.

Obviously my question had nothing to do with claiming whatsoever.

Anyway, this issue will go to the backburner because there is a crap case brewing against another player I need to weigh-in on.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I was trying to scumhunt in peace but not-so-soft claiming vanilla has disturbed the hunting dynamic.

Unvote, Vote Kise

[Lamont_Cranston]

woah! Hold the phone!

hell of a band wangon there!

why exactly are we L-3 on Kise? I don't exactly see him that scummy, of course, maybe i'm missing something.

In case you didn't notice:

Can you provide some meta why you would make such a joke?

No. Other than the fact that my role is so plain.

Scum love hiding in soft-vanilla ice cream which raises the percentage of hitting scum here above the baseline D1 averages (optimal lynch).

If he flips town it is terrible town play as it

only

helps scum to claim vanilla.

I'm just going to assume you missed the claim. I understand why. It was such bad play I wanted to believe it didn't happen myself.

[Lamont_Cranston]

RC Vanilla is

always

bad and in the case of Kise there wasn't even a "newb" reason to do it. We were dead in the middle of RVS and he made a suspicious comment that looked to me like a good case for bussing a scum buddy. I asked him if he had any meta for the "joke comment" when he was at

L-5

and he goes softee-freeze??

ewwww.

If he was at L-2 (like now) it would

still

be bad because its a non-provable role (scum hiding place) and it makes it easier for scum to find PR's. So it doesn't help the town, it only hurts the town.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Welcome Cater. Now we need to hear from Lowell...

[Lamont_Cranston]

@Lamont: How do you know Xyl is a valuable player?

I've read up several games with him in it and have found him consistently logical and knowledgeable -- vet-like.

But that's the thing: He's not a valuable player.

Well, I disagree. I would say he was much more valuable in Medieval Mafia. I would under no circumstances policy lynch him.

I don't like the Kise wagon. Lots of mafia sitting on it right now.

That is what BW analysis is for. Will you be on or off his wagon?

[Lamont_Cranston]

All I said was that my role is plain.

So just because I said my role is plain means I'm automatically mafia who wants to hide behind a basic role?

I can't be a townie trying to avoid NK?

Well not really because all you are really doing is letting the scum know you aren't a PR which

helps scum.

That's not something a townie does.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Vote: Blood Covenant

For pushing for the role claim so quickly. It was a stupid move to try and hint at being plain, but I'm not willing to lynch a claimed cop without a counter claim and

I don't want someone to come out just to counter claim on day one.

Pardon me but doesn't that catch scum guaranteed??

FoS Cater

PS I'm catching up on this thread and still evaluating whether to keep my vote on Kise here.

[Lamont_Cranston]

EBWOP: Oh, there's a fifth page...

Kise's real claim is a bit odd to me. Even numbered nights? Okay, maybe... but this could also be a clever claim attempt by him to at least keep himself alive till D3, WHILE ALSO drawing Doc protection (assuming there is a Doc) for N1 & N2 due to his claim. He claimed I have a plain role... his original vote was that someone's role was better than his... etc. etc... and now suddenly he has an even-numbered investigative role?

Nah. Keeping my vote. Not convinced, nor do I think we're going to get another lynch going by 10pm.

QFT. You know a townie Cop should be

ecstatic

over that role. They wouldn't do

ANYTHING

to get votes on them.

You have clearly shown here how un-townlike Kise has acted.

Excellent point.

[Lamont_Cranston]

If you guys want to justify an intentional mislynch, be my guest. That's the only reason you don't want to unvote.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town

, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum? Sorry to be one to tell you, but there's no such thing as fool-proof scumhunting. Nobody is perfect when it comes to finding out scum.

So how's this going to work; I'm staying in the hot seat for the rest of D1? Ok... That'll work highly in favor of anti-town since this whole fiasco is a good enough distraction to keep suspicion off everyone else.

Do you see how BADLY you played this if you ARE a Cop??

[Lamont_Cranston]

After my analysis I don't think there is ANY way that Kise is a townie Cop here.

I think at the very least he is fake-claiming cop as vanilla to protect his own skin.

His

logic-behavior dynamic

is so contradictory, there is defiinitely some sort of lying going on here.

I have that feeling again like when scum is about to flip and you just know it.

At the very least he is lying about something and deserves a LAL as a town liability.

[Lamont_Cranston]

If you guys want to justify an intentional mislynch, be my guest. That's the only reason you don't want to unvote.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum? Sorry to be one to tell you, but there's no such thing as fool-proof scumhunting. Nobody is perfect when it comes to finding out scum.

So how's this going to work; I'm staying in the hot seat for the rest of D1? Ok... That'll work highly in favor of anti-town since this whole fiasco is a good enough distraction to keep suspicion off everyone else.

I don't want to unvote you because you're scummy as hell and you've claimed something that will take us days to verify. I'm sure this isn't coincidence.

However, I can't deny the logic of your last point.

Can you please detail out this

undeniable logic

for me? I am truly curious...

[Lamont_Cranston]

@Dizzy: Your posts have been totally oozing with logic lately. Any reason your RVS vote still stands?

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOL crosspost!

[Lamont_Cranston]

Tunneling isn't attractive, Xyl.

@Lamont - How would it look if I didn't try to hide my role?

I'm sorry but there was no need to claim with you at L-5 in the RVS stage. The town move is to play it cool and scumhunt. In fact the town move would of been to cite games where you and Phoebus played together and you guys had that joke before.

The reason I called it plain at first is because I did not think we'd get as far as to me having to RC.

Soft-claiming is never pro-village; it forces a liability onto the village where they are forced to make you full-claim. It was also anti-town for you to soft-claim because you (supposedly) were cop and should of not claimed anything in order to protect that (at L-5).

You're making a big deal because I wanted to lie about my power role? There's nothing wrong with that because it's a good thing to lie to my enemies, especially when they're wolves in sheep's clothing.

Tell me right now how as Cop your behavior makes any sense?

Why did you draw so much attention to yourself?

How is it you felt the need to claim ANYTHING when you were only at L-5 in the RVS??

You know they say that spies are often caught, not because they have been somehow discovered, but because they

think

they have been discovered and act out even though no actual suspicion was on them.

I see a much stronger case for panicking scum here.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Vote: Blood Covenant

For pushing for the role claim so quickly. It was a stupid move to try and hint at being plain, but I'm not willing to lynch a claimed cop without a counter claim and

I don't want someone to come out just to counter claim on day one.

Pardon me but doesn't that catch scum guaranteed??

FoS Cater

[Lamont_Cranston]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the FIRST one who was so interested in why I said my non-serious comment about Phoebus?

Yes, I was definitely one of the first.

You asked why I thought Phoebus had a better role than me.

I DID NOT!!! I fricking asked you if you guys had joked about that in the past and could site such games where it happened. You are not describing a stable state of mind for yourself at that point in the game...

I kept trying to drill it in your head that it was a joke-vote, but for whatever reason,

you thought it was roleclaiming during the RVS

, which wasn't the case. You just wouldn't drop it, and now we're here.. with me having my role outed.

What part of "MY ROLE IS PLAIN" don't you understand as roleclaiming??

For the record, I only have 1 other (ongoing) game with Phoebus. And even in that game, I don't know what his role is. For the last time... my 1st comment in this thread... was a random comment... I have no knowledge on what Phoebus' role is in this game, if he even has one.

Why did it take you TEN PAGES to finally say that. You could of said that 7-8 pages ago and this thing probably would of went away. HECK, I was in the process of scum hunting elsewhere when you fricking claimed...

*FACEPALM*

[Lamont_Cranston]

What? Rehab??

Oh right, Rehab!

[Lamont_Cranston]

Btw kise-Phoebus scum buddies possibility here.

I'm about to disprove this...

Zito, just vote for me now, please.

1) The chanes of Phoebus & Kise now both being scum have gone

WHEY

down.

2)

WAAAT!?

[Lamont_Cranston]

Omgosh. This whole argument of how "the bandwagoners didn't have an open mind" sucks so bad. Did ever occur to you that sucky play is anti-town and that the #1 responsibilility of a townie-PR is to stay alive so as to help the town? Do you realize you have totally failed to do this?

HOW DARE YOU BLAME ANYONE ELSE FOR YOUR CRAPPY PLAY!!!

This makes me so mad, I think I'm going to create a whole new section on my wiki about it.

Severely Pissed Off, out.

[Lamont_Cranston]

So what do you guys think? Overly emotional townie with a power role? Or pissed-off found-out scum?

I'm leaning towards the former. The fuck-you venom in kise's rant about how lynching him serves mafia seems real. I know it's good meta to lynch all liars and self-voters and all, but should we put that above scum-hunting?

I'll trust kise in Day 1 so he can give his power a whirl. Let me look at the bandwagon and find possible scum now.

This is so opportunistic and a little late IMO.

I really don't like this post. I don't like how someone that refused to vote a very scummy player now turns self-righteous in analyzing the BW.

This is another thing I HET about bad town play: It makjes the BW's harder to analyze. But just the same there will be good analysys there; just not the same kind as if Kise's play wasn't so bad.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Would the protagonist on

Lost

suspect Xyl here?

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOST

[Lamont_Cranston]

I should also note that you're making an awfully big deal over what was essentially an excuse for a page 1 random vote.

A reason I found quite inspiring however.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Meh, if Kise were sticking around, I'd let him feed us results. No scum after Night 3 would merit a lynch, but since he has basically quit, I'm going to read him as defeated scum.

I'd drop the hammer if I had it.

[Lamont_Cranston]

I know it's good meta to lynch all liars and self-voters and all, but should we put that above scum-hunting?

I'll trust kise in Day 1 so he can give his power a whirl. Let me look at the bandwagon and find possible scum now.

There are reasons why its good meta:

1) The town will catch scum more frequently than the baseline average for a D1 lynch

2) The town will benefit from clearing out a liability that could be used to really interfere with

real

scumhunting (especially in the endgame when it counts the most).

So, you

cannot

separate meta-lynching from scum hunting. They are one and the same thing.

To do so displays conflicted logic; a certain "scumhunting schizophrenia" if you will...

[Lamont_Cranston]

There is definitely scum in this list:

Kise
ConsoM
Sam
Lazarus
Cater

[Lamont_Cranston]

Lamont, while I agree that LAL is often a good guide for the town, I've never seen any scum play this bad. It's too blatant and frantic. I've seen two townies play like this, but never scum.

I want everyone on the Kise wagon to tell why they are still on it.

I've already stated why the town

must

lynch Kise here. We literally don't have a choice.

Secondly has anyone noticed that his "hammer" was actually one vote early? Do not forget that it

is

possible this is a scum stunt done intentionally.

But either way, he must die today.

[Lamont_Cranston]

This player seems very scummy to me, and i would like to see him lynched today. If he turns up town, i will be surprised, and then i would look into Lamont and Xyl, but i don't think he will. These players seem very pro-town to me.

Look at this point its 50-50 he flips either way. 50-50 is GREAT odds for D1 lynching!!!

I don't think you can have it both ways: 1) Thinking he is scummy and wanting him lynched & 2) Wanting to suspect the main proponents of his wagon if he flips town

This is such a terrible case of fence sitting you need some assistance:

[Lamont_Cranston]

There is definitely scum in this list:

Kise
ConsoM
Sam
Lazarus
Cater

My list is about the same, i would put cater up to spot number three though.

Btw, this list is not in any order due to scummiest etc...

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ya BC I actually like your scumhunting alot here.

This is why I HET bad town play it just screws everything up.

There will definitely be BW analysis either way and I'm running with those that are late/hesitant voters are more guilty than those that actually strongly advocated his lynch & voted, regardless if he filips scum or not.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Ya BC I actually like your scumhunting alot here.

This is why I HET bad town play it just screws everything up.

There will definitely be BW analysis either way and I'm running with those that are late/hesitant voters are more guilty than those that actually strongly advocated his lynch & voted, regardless if he filips scum or not.

Of course non-voters get my special attention as well.

[Lamont_Cranston]

The Kise wagon is really really awful. I'm willing to bet there is at least two scum on it. Why in the world would anyone lynch a claimed cop on day one? Are you kidding?

I think Sam is the strongest proponent of actually believing Kise. This bothers me so badly I am going to have to comment on it.

Research to follow.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Here is the entire pure dump in chronological order. I will start my analysis shortly.

Vote: Phoebus

I think he has a better role than me.. I'm jealous..

Can you provide some meta why you would make such a joke?

No. Other than the fact that my role is so plain.

Wait.. did you just bait me into quasi-RC'ing?

I don't care if Lamont denies it, he basically was rolefishing with me. What else could it mean if someone asks, "Do you have meta knowledge that your role is not better than his?"

What, like did Phoebus brag to me that he had a better role? I don't understand what kind of answer you were expecting from me Lamont.

All I said was that my role is plain. Now, did anyone ever to stop to think that maybe that was a personal opinion of mine? What if I'm a Thief; someone who absorbs a NA if they target someone with a night ability, but could also target a non-NA player? Or what if I'm a bodyguard; a mofo that DIES when they protect someone?

So just because I said my role is plain means I'm automatically mafia who wants to hide behind a basic role?

I can't be a townie trying to avoid NK? And just because I used the word plain, does that automatically mean Vanilla?

Like I said... it was a personal opinion, and a very VAGUE comment by me. Yet and still the BW is putting words in my mouth and, surprisingly, got some sheep to join the wagon. [/b]You can't and won't find a quote of mine where I claim vanilla because all I said was that my role is plain TO ME.[/b]

My 1st post was a random vote, accompanied by a non-serious/joke comment. The comment I made was about how I thought Phoebus had a better role than me... Zito wants to take that comment literal and made himself a little case on me. Nothing more & nothing less than Zito blowing this out of proportion.

Are you claiming one of those roles you suggested?

No. Just giving an example of what I deem is plain. The bodyguard has to die if they protect someone who is targeted for a NK. I personally think it's a wack role, but you guys think it's not-so plain, then that's your opinions. Not FACTS, but opinions.

If RC'ing is so vital for me to do, I'll do it.. L-2 doesn't scare me because I honestly don't think some of the sheep on my BW deserve me. Quick-bandwagons are annoying, but I'm not a quitter.

I have a night action I can perform on even numbered nights (N2, N4, N6, etc.). There must be someone out there who can perform investigations on odd numbered nights, so don't say anything. Just stay in the shadows and do your thing during the 1st NP. Until then, it's a good idea for me to be protected tonight because I'm honestly more important than I hoped to make everyone believe... surprising?

The reason I wanted to give the impression I was "plain" is because I don't want to give scum a reason to NK me so early. And the way you guys are pushing for me to RC makes me think you're considering NK'ing me if I have an important role... and I do.. The cat is out of the bag.. And since you guys wanted me to RC, it's only fair that I'm protected during the 1st NP so I can investigate during the 2nd night. I hoped I didn't have to reveal it so early, but there it is..

As for soft-claiming vanilla with no provocation -- Lamont wanted to know what reason I had to suspect Phoebus could have a better role than me. I didn't see any important reason why he should know whether Phoebus had a PR, so I toyed with him and said my role was plain to throw him off.

Why would you risk lynching a powerful ally to town, over your own stubborn gut-feeling that I'm scum?

@Lamont - How would it look if I didn't try to hide my role? The reason I called it plain at first is because I did not think we'd get as far as to me having to RC. And the reason I didn't care to RC before BloodCovenant pushed for one is because I'm sure mafia would need a good candidate for NK. Why would I say anything other than my role is plain? If I let mafia know (earlier) that I had a PR, I may have avoided L-2, but I definitely could not avoid a nightkill from them.

You're making a big deal because I wanted to lie about my power role? There's nothing wrong with that because it's a good thing to lie to my enemies, especially when they're wolves in sheep's clothing.

It probably is not guaranteed that there is an odd-night investigator here, but if there is, Dizzy should be looked into. I plan to inspect Xyl on N2.

Again, if there is someone who can investigate on odd-nights, don't step up just yet.

The only good thing that came out of this fiasco is that the tunnelers/persistent players have made themselves known. Some true colors are exposed, but it wasn't worth it because nobody would accept my 1st comment in this thread as nothing more than a random/joke vote. For the record, I only have 1 other (ongoing) game with Phoebus. And even in that game, I don't know what his role is.

For the last time... my 1st comment in this thread... was a random comment... I have no knowledge on what Phoebus' role is in this game, if he even has one.

Like I said earlier, the sheep players in this game don't deserve my role's help and are only veal for the real scum. I apologize to those who'd like for me to make use of my role, but I'm doing this to shut the bullshit up. Dizzy & Xyl deserve a vig-kill for being brainless bandwagoners (TM). With this unnecessary distraction out of the way (meaning me being the center of attention), hopefully the town can now focus on weeding out the true scum. But if not, then it's only proper that I give props to mafia in advance.

One last thing: I lied about something else because I wanted to avoid being roleblocked during N1.. You'll see what I'm talking about soon.

Please don't justify this mislynch by saying, "Kise was just being a bitch." No, you guys think you're the Gods of scumhunting and the truth is that your egos have failed you... Or you're scum yourselves and did a damn good job on a D1 lynch, to which I applaud you. Mafia deserve to win if this kind of propaganda continues to work on everyone.

To everyone else who kept an open-mind and didn't follow the bandwagon, peace!

Famous last words: "This does not clear Phoebus "

[Lamont_Cranston]

inHimshallibe is mafia too.

ok... evidence?

This post is scummier than sam's, and is noted. Probably means nothing in the end.

Meh, if Kise were sticking around, I'd let him feed us results. No scum after Night 3 would merit a lynch, but since he has basically quit, I'm going to read him as defeated scum.

What part of that post is scummy?

You changed your opinion rather fast. I think this warrants a

FoS

. You don't post much in the thread compared to some, and what little posts you give, you change direction with your thoughts rather quickly.

Does anyone else share my suspicion?

I don't see any problem with this post; in fact I saw it as pro-town. I also have Inhim as pro-town.

[Lamont_Cranston]

inHimshallibe is mafia too.

ok... evidence?

This post is scummier than sam's, and is noted. Probably means nothing in the end.

Meh, if Kise were sticking around, I'd let him feed us results. No scum after Night 3 would merit a lynch, but since he has basically quit, I'm going to read him as defeated scum.

What part of that post is scummy?

You changed your opinion rather fast. I think this warrants a

FoS

. You don't post much in the thread compared to some, and what little posts you give, you change direction with your thoughts rather quickly.

Does anyone else share my suspicion?

I don't see any problem with this post; in fact I saw it as pro-town. I also have Inhim as pro-town.

Umm, on second thought I wasn't all warm and fuzzy on that post but ultimately I was like "letting it slide" on a hypothetical and his ultimate vote for Kise sat well with me.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Great analysis BC. I agree with prob 85-90% of it. We both have some of the same thoughts.

The most damning imo is how he is so confused about whether his role is

plain and boring

or

powerful and requiring protection

.

He has done really

nothing

to make himself believable here and has done several things that literally

force

the town to lynch him.

However one point I would like to make:



The original reason all this suspicion came down is because of what I saw as a D1 RVS buss attempt between him and Phoebus. It is rather interesting on that note that he ends his "hammer" post with "This doesn't clear Phoebus".

If he flips scum, my opinion on Phoebus will be changing.

As of now I have Phoebus as +town although I have noticed he joined the BW late. It

is

possible to attribute that to a possible conservative playstyle or ultimately it could be the necessary

bus

to protect him from suspicion.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Yikes its twilight and its getting scury out here...

Reck is a little scattered atm but I can't help tinking of better vig targets... *cough*consom,sam,cater*cough*

[Lamont_Cranston]

It would have worked, too, if not for that meddling roleblocker.

Wow. Scummy award-ers take note. Reck got Xyl mad.

Great game OGML! Very nice design. Very fun to watch even though I died-ed night 1.

Great hammer ConsoM. Great data anayses. I was wrong. You & Cater were town. I was right on Sam but that's about it...

[Lamont_Cranston]

EBWOP --> not scummy awarders..