Mafia 88- Return to New Catania- Game Over!

[tubby216]

i am here checkin in

i

vote: CuriousKarmaDog

just cause it sounded good

[tubby216]

i will be V/LA untill wednesday the 12th

[tubby216]

well i am back and i am catching up

[tubby216]

@ yos
i have posted i have been reading i have nothing of substance to post, untill something pops up that i need to adress i prefer to stay out of the way

[tubby216]

nope still don't,,, there is nothing of substance to be had anywhere,, so yah lynch me if you want its ok by me although i would sugest looking elsewhere

[tubby216]

i'm sorry i was away emergancy tripp,, give me a few to catch up

[tubby216]

whats the vote count at now??

[tubby216]

Yeah, I'd carry a Tubby lynch through. Strategic lurking, which is what tubby is doing, is either awful town play or scum tactics to avoid a read, both of which are lynchable offenses.

what are you talkin about??

I'm allvwing this continue beacuse:

1) i think its funny
2) its telling more about everyone else in the game,
3) i highly doubt i will get lynched today but if i do thats ok to i just hope everyone is paying attention

[tubby216]

dear hoopla,

all will be revealed, just have faith,,,

[tubby216]

because i happen to enjoy the taste of leather?? either than or i have an oral fixation coupled with a foot fetish the doc's really haven't decided yet they just gave me some pills and told me to soldier on,,

[tubby216]

no but i assure you yos all will be revealed soon

[tubby216]

prior to my lynch captain impatience

[tubby216]

Ok here is what I know so far,

Page one

starts with the random voting /joking phase. But toward the end of it there is an interesting discussion going on the no-lynch gambit, which never works for day 1, also it usually get scum to reveal them by time the discussion is over.

Parties of interest at this point, hoopla, George Carlin, and battle mage

Page 2

starts off with BM’s wall of quotes and then turns his focus to George Carlin, then Yos questions hoopla’s play and says its really a null tell, but it isn’t reall all that helpful,, which to me sounds more of a slap on the wrist, kinda like “ knock it off or you will suffer from my wrath” or something like that.

Parties of interest at this point, hoopla, George Carlin,

I removed battle mage here because I have seen him in other games where he begins his hunt for scumm now I believe town at least for now


In own defense here post sub # 46 I mention I will be V/LA for four days

Page 3

more discussion on the no-lynch newb/scum debacle,, but killa seven makes an appearance good for him,
to it here but sobeahero does some floundering her and bm keeps the pressure on him.{still no puta}

Person of interest sobeahero

page 5

this whole page is dedicated to the to scummy to be scum wich is one huge WIFOM discussion, don’t like won’t comment on it further

page 6

[quote="Hoopla" post# 133]

Mod:

Can we possibly poke Puta Puta, SensFan and Panda Stomper who are yet to join in?

Done

.[/quote] ~ finally someone notices the lurkers

page 7

I finally check back in on the 12th of Nov. post# 149,,

page 8

sensfan trying to be helpful but failing apparently

Page 10

Yos starts his lurker hunt,, good Idea I would do it too the imediatley after OGML says this

i am supremely disturbed by yos' lurkerhunt

Then I said this,,

@ yos
i have posted i have been reading i have nothing of substance to post, untill something pops up that i need to adress i prefer to stay out of the way

the ogml says this

^^^ Now THERE'S a lurker who warrants some real pressure

,,, odd huh just a a lil while ago he was all happy with the “scum” he found and lurkers to be of little or no consequence now he is pressuring me??? How odd

Then right after Seraphim,Hoopla, and SensFan vote for me right after another with little or no comment,, I find that odd as well then Yos come in with this a good case post #246
Next is militant with post 248 nice work

Then ogml has this to say

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

This bandwagon has some legs.

you wanna explain what happened to the scum you found?? I mean seriously what the hell

granted i diddn't notice but militant already made this same case,, wich you OGML have refused to answer ,, hoopla even unvoted and voted you wanting to know the case on SIR T and yet you refuse cause you seem to think it is far better to lynch me on policy then spend time hunting scum??? seriously what the hell??

so here is what i think:
townies,, Yos, BM, Hoopla, Militant, ecto, and tubby

null- sensfan, curios karmadog,farside22, sir t,incognito,natarisha

anti town, ogml,seraphim, puta,killa seven


so there is my thoughts

[tubby216]

@farside

anything on my post 355?? i am rather proud of it your thoughts?

[tubby216]

well i already voted for puta and i figured it could stay there untill puta picks up their game,,

if puta responds to the pressure than my vote will go to ogml

[tubby216]

then you should be replaced

Active lurking is not the mod's concern.

[tubby216]

btw tubbs is acceptable

[tubby216]

oh wow i diddn't vote for puta,, sorry i must have gotten my games confused,,

vote: puta puta

thats L-5 i think

fos OGML

,,,

[tubby216]

then you should be replaced

Active lurking is not the mod's concern.

that was more of telling him that he should ask to be replaced not that you replace him

mad love to the mod god

People still shouldn't be getting replaced just because other people don't like their playstyle. Do you know how hard getting replacements can be?

[tubby216]

Hi all. I skimmed the thread. I see we have lots of good players here. I also see that tubby216 is playing. Normally I'd lynch tubby216 on principle, but we have a player who is active lurking even more blatantly, so...

unvote, vote Puta Puta

thanks i feel the love

[tubby216]

@mod understood ,, consider me put in my place...


@xyl,,, in my defense i have been getting better,, i am currently enrolled in the BM school of mafia playing,,,,,however its seems i am still only a D student lol

[tubby216]

rofl. Initiative! I like it!

And dw Tubby-the education is tough, but worthwhile in the end.

BM

yes honorable sensai,, one day i will be able to snatch the pebbe from your hand

[tubby216]

I'm a cop. I don't remember (if any) who I investigated O_O

either I didn't sent in a name for investigation or I did but something happened, cuz I never got a report, lol

try reading your role it usually helps you were already lynched in that game

[tubby216]

hmm i don't like it i still think puta is scum,,


puta was all to happy to have me lynch for playin the same way he/she/it was, an now for a defense we get a cop claim??

i mean its a pretty good play if your scum because its too early in the game for a counter claim cause the real copp wouldn't want to out himself this early especially with no investigation results,,,,

[tubby216]

but idk what's going on... -.-

the read the thread

[tubby216]

xyl is obvscum.

BM

care to explain there sensai??

other than frustrated townie i am not getting scum read from him

[tubby216]

you wanna kill ur cop, fine with me.

why don't you actually try being of some use?? something anything??

[tubby216]

i'll

unvote

pending replacement


still waitin on killa seven

[tubby216]

In this sort of situation where Puta claimed cop without really following the game, is it worthwhile pressing for a confirmation claim from his replacement? I could honestly see him being a cop or scum, or even just a townie.

This is good talk.

so who ever puta's replacement would boy do i feel bad for that guy

[tubby216]

Ok so upon re-read and a little incentive due to OMUGUS here’s my case on OGML

Page 10

Yos starts his lurker hunt,, good Idea I would do it too the imediatley after OGML says this

i am supremely disturbed by yos' lurkerhunt

Then I said this,,

@ yos
i have posted i have been reading i have nothing of substance to post, untill something pops up that i need to adress i prefer to stay out of the way

the ogml says this

^^^ Now THERE'S a lurker who warrants some real pressure

,,, odd huh just a a lil while ago he was all happy with the “scum” he found and lurkers to be of little or no consequence now he is pressuring me??? How odd

Then right after Seraphim,Hoopla, and SensFan vote for me right after another with little or no comment,, I find that odd as well then Yos come in with this a good case post #246
Next is militant with post 248 nice work

Then ogml has this to say

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

This bandwagon has some legs.

you wanna explain what happened to the scum you found?? I mean seriously what the hell

granted i diddn't notice but militant already made this same case,, wich you OGML have refused to answer ,, hoopla even unvoted and voted you wanting to know the case on SIR T and yet you refuse cause you seem to think it is far better to lynch me on policy then spend time hunting scum??? seriously what the hell??

so here is what i think:
townies,, Yos, BM, Hoopla, Militant, ecto, and tubby

null- sensfan, curios karmadog,farside22, sir t,incognito,natarisha

anti town, ogml,seraphim, puta,killa seven


so there is my thoughts

That’s where I first btought it up,, But puta was still lurkin and bein an ass so my vote went to puta,,,

Then after the v/la OGML comes in and says this

There isn't much to report on pages 15 and 16 except Tubby has stopped lurking and is looking sane again.

Putta Putta, well... that is the sort of D1 bandwagon, which inevitably takes place in almost every game I play, and I am always uncomfortable with it, and I always announce, that I think that person is town, so let's get this out of the way:

I think Putta Putta is giving out null tells at the moment. The reasoning being, I don't see either town OR scum playing the way Putta Putta is playing at the moment. Horrible play. Has anyone played before with Putta? Is this normal for him (her?)?

This?? This is how you tie me to Sir T? come on the only thing connecting me to Sir T is that there is nothing to connect us together,,
So my question to you is, Grasp at straws much??

Unvote, Vote: tubby216

K7 gets a meta pass from me for lurking, for now.

Tubby seems to have tried to scare people off his wagon with this weirdly vague softclaim-type thing, which was really scummy but got swamped by gimbo puta's shenanigans.

Did I used to date your sister?? What’s with all the hate??

As far as I can tell puta puta aka gimbo just got wagoned to a claim in every game he was in and claimed some kind of town power. He's a dick. Guess we'll need to hear from his replacement, but he still looks like a good lynch, or at least righteous vig material.

Reading up today.

Really are you trying to be sarcastic or did you get confused,, PP the waste of space claimed cop, so he looks like a good lynch? Or even vig kill material, how you figure?? Atleast wait until we hear from his replacement,, impatient much??

So congradulation OGML you have won my vote,

vote OGML

oh yah and answer farside too while your at it,

BM, Xyl thoughts??

[tubby216]

@Xyl,
this is what i think he meant

nope still don't,,, there is nothing of substance to be had anywhere,, so yah lynch me if you want its ok by me although i would sugest looking elsewhere

This^^

Yeah, I'd carry a Tubby lynch through. Strategic lurking, which is what tubby is doing, is either awful town play or scum tactics to avoid a read, both of which are lynchable offenses.

what are you talkin about??

I'm allvwing this continue beacuse:

1) i think its funny
2) its telling more about everyone else in the game,
3) i highly doubt i will get lynched today but if i do thats ok to i just hope everyone is paying attention

And this^^ I think

[tubby216]

Tubby:

This?? This is how you tie me to Sir T? come on the only thing connecting me to Sir T is that there is nothing to connect us together,,
So my question to you is, Grasp at straws much??

You seem to have gotten really, really worked up over my statement that I see a connection between you and Sir T. This only makes it more likely in my eyes.

i pointed it out because its weak and flawed,, oh sure you can come back and see look look he is makin a big deal out of it he fell right into my scum trap wich is getting in WIFOM but i'm sorry but i am throwin the BS flagg,,

Did I used to date your sister?? What’s with all the hate??

Do you have anything game related to say? I make a point about an aspect of your play I found to be scummy, and you counterattack by claiming I made things personal. Thats just stupid.

This was meant to be humor i susposed i failed,,, it was a stupid joke

BM, Xyl thoughts??

What about BM and Xyl make their opinions on your post more valuable than anybody else?

Because BM and Xyl seemed to me to be lost in there own lil debate at the time and not really hunting any scum. So i figured by asking for thier thoughts perhaps they would more involved

This is the entirety of tubby's tactic to get the wagon off of himself, which to me looks like a softclaim in the form of a threat, like "you don't want to do that because I might be a town power role."

nope still don't,,, there is nothing of substance to be had anywhere,, so yah lynch me if you want its ok by me although i would sugest looking elsewhere

3) i highly doubt i will get lynched today but if i do thats ok to i just hope everyone is paying attention

dear hoopla,

all will be revealed, just have faith,,,

no but i assure you yos all will be revealed soon

prior to my lynch captain impatience

what if i have a power role what then?? does that make you a scum hunter or a role fisher??

[tubby216]

what if i have a power role what then?? does that make you a scum hunter or a role fisher??

It makes you an idiot for playing in a deliberately anti-town fashion, thereby drawing a wagon which forced you into the position of softclaiming in the first place. On that note, I think you should full claim.

again with the fishing,, and no i will not claim,,

i wasn't in a position to softclaim,, and sure there was a wagon that wanted me lynched but people got off the wagon when i posted showing that i had been paying attention,

[tubby216]

I voted tubby for the softclaim, which I find to be very scummy. After catching up and putting together my thoughts on Sir T I found the weight of evidence against him to be heavier. Tubby's lurking and "lack of context" (by which I assume you mean lack of meaningful contribution) is, yes, also vote worthy.

Then why did you say you were against a lurker lynch then a few post later vote for tubby for lurkering?

I changed my mind.

Why are you so concerned with my opinion on tubby, but have nothing to say about what I wrote on the topic of Sir T except to comment that it came at the expense of a vote for tubby?

because you are doing more flip flops than a fish out of water

flip flops+opertunistic wagon jumping+ irrational thought= scum

you sir are scum,, enjoy the gallows

[tubby216]

so if i shut up and say nothing i get wagoned, then i speak up try to help ,, present a case and i still get voted ,, i love this ,,,this game is awesome

[tubby216]

i'm not concerned,, i just find it amusing its like i am damned if i do and damned if i don't

[tubby216]

i will be V/LA untill wednesday the 12th

i stated i would be away for four days, that was on page three

on page 6 post #149 i return and attempt to get caught up

then i while i was catchin up yos posted his lurker hunt post,, at that time i had nothing of substance to add so i diddn't post, then more posts were saying how that wasn't helpful,, but at the time i had nothing to post ,, so my first wagon starts,, OGML hops on the bandwagon abandoning his proir theory that he "found scum" but only after 5 people have already voted for me and i was clearly on my way to a lynch,

I was also out of town for like 3 days during that time too, upon my return a substantial wagon had formed on me and i was content to alow it and se if i could termine everyones motives for being on it, and OGML stuck out as scum

then i posted some content stated my reasons why i thought OGML may be scum, but voted for puta wanting puta to post or actually play the game, so puta gets removed and i do a re-read during that re-read OGML posts his case agianst me and SirT basically making me look scummy as all heck but continues to vote sir t. Then i post my rebutle because i believe his case false and full of holes, but i know its sounds like alot of OMGUS kinda case but i believe there is something there,,

OMGL still continues to suspect calls my play idiotic and anti town, the pushes me to claim but still does not decide to vote for me for pressure untill 4 other people have voted for me,, seems to me to be a load of bs,

and I will not claim, i will go to the gallows nice and quiet and with out a claim

[tubby216]

seriously am i that far off? or did i present a case so insane that absolutely no one else can see it?

[tubby216]

tubby: Did OGML pushing hardest for your lynch influence your decision that he's scum?

Does anyone else on the wagon look scummy to you?

no not that he was pushing,, it was the fact he was pushing and then waited till like 4 other people voted to back up his pushing with a vote,,, he seems to be trying to secure a safe place on what ever wagon he pushes,

warning this is with out a proper re-read on the people on the wagon

other suspects,
, likely sensfans for being opurtunistic with little comments or support as to why,

perhaps Yos,, same thing not a whole lot of reasoning behind it,

also to a lesser extent der hammer,,

will read on the three players mentioned above to see if anything sticks out

[tubby216]

ecto,, VOA??

voice of authority??

[tubby216]

Der Hammer,
posts very little and when he does there is hardly any content
so what aever happened to this

Will make a post more with a more detailed amount of my thoughts so far later

Yos,, nevermind i read through and you have been on me the entire game..i found in your previous posts i assume your revoting me stems from the case you made earlier right??

Sensfan, i really don't see you havin a case at all other than i seem to be the only thing goin right now?? is there more to it other than my previous lurking and apparant ignorance??

[tubby216]

no the reason i am frustrated is because i made a case and a solid one ( at least in my opinion). But i did such a horrible job in presenting it that the only responses i get are,

Okay, tubby's aggressive defense is really sticking out like a sore thumb here. There's a better-than-random chance he's scum, and I don't think having him alive later will help the town much.

unvote killa seven, vote tubby216

I'm good with the tubby wagon. He's flailing a bit. His most recent post reeks of "yeah, I'm screwed, who cares?"

unvote vote tubby

I don't like Sir T's response to being called out; trying to avoid NK by acting scummy is trying to declare yourself the most important thing in the game; one player does not win games, and your survival at the expense of useful lynches is extremely arrogant.

so yah every time i try to explain myself i end up with my foot in my mouth,, but if i were to suddenly give up or sict back and say nothing that also makes me look scummy so seriously i am at a loss here,,

I feel if i do come out a full on claim it will not be believed any way and i will still get lynched


so here it is:
i am a townie and hard working and honest citizen of catania

[tubby216]

nope still don't,,, there is nothing of substance to be had anywhere,, so yah lynch me if you want its ok by me

although i would sugest looking elsewhere

Yeah, I'd carry a Tubby lynch through. Strategic lurking, which is what tubby is doing, is either awful town play or scum tactics to avoid a read, both of which are lynchable offenses.

what are you talkin about??

I'm allvwing this continue beacuse:

1) i think its funny
2) its telling more about everyone else in the game,
3) i highly doubt i will get lynched today but if i do thats ok to

i just hope everyone is paying attention

dear hoopla,

all will be revealed, just have faith,,,

i believe thats what they are reffering to

[tubby216]

okie dokie thanks

[tubby216]

Votecount

:

Tubby216 (7): SensFan, Yosarian2, Hoopla, Der Hammer, OhGodMyLife, xyzzy, Natirasha,
OhGodMyLife (2) - farside22, tubby216,
Xylthixlm (2): Sir Tornado, Battle Mage
Natirasha (1): Shanba
curiouskarmadog (1): iamausername
killa seven (1): Xylthixlm

not voting: Killa Seven, skitzer, curiouskarmadog, militant, (Puta Puta), Seraphim, vollkan, Ectomancer

Also note: Tubby's post where he said he was an 'honest and hardworking citizen' would have resulted in modkill for quoting, or faking the quotation of, a mod PM, were it not for the fact that that particular PM is on the first page.

Anyone not removing their vote from Tubby after this post is scum.

BM

why??

[tubby216]

oh ok nevermind i miss read your post,, damn need more coffee

[tubby216]

because it's a mokill offense to quote your pm in the game thread , see page 1 rule 11

Correct. Quoting, or pretending to, directly quote a phrase from a role pm is modkillable- because if you were really a vanilla townie, and that pm had not been made public, then other vanilla townies would have known you definitely were an actual townie. Since the PM is public, there it is no evidence either way as to whether you are an actual townie, a scum fakeclaiming, or another town role fakeclaiming, so you be will allowed to live.

[tubby216]

i'm sorry i still feel ogml is scummy

i am not understanding these points

bm's vote on shanba

shanb's vote on yos

could you please explain??

[tubby216]

i do understand hoopla on sens,
@hoopla do you feel sens is worse than ogml?
is sens the scummiest so far?

[tubby216]

Tubbys claim really doesnt convince me so I think my vote is happy were it is

ok thats fine and i understand that.

hoever does anyone else strike you as scummy?

do you have anythoughts on the recent voting activity?

do you have an opinion or are you content to ride the wagon on me through to lynch offering no help or any thoughts as to who else might be scum?

[tubby216]

man i just hate this. I think ogml is scum so i am leaving my vote where it is. at least until some one can look at it and tell me why he is not wich no one has done. I also do not like der hammer and would not mind seeing hiim lynched or at least run up to a claim.

[tubby216]

whats the vote count btw??

[tubby216]

so we don't lynch der hammer??

[tubby216]

@xyl

ok what is the case on TI?? i must have missed it,

as far as der hammer,, i would support that lynch i know he is a claimed miller but i do not understand why its in the best interest of the town to keep him around, cause we will show up as scum if investigated, so that would be a wasted investigation, but if we lkynch him that would also be a wasted lynch,and the scum get a kill , so by lynching der hammer it would be like if we voted not lynch at this point right?,, so thats the quandry as i understand it is that correct??

[tubby216]

Best wishes Sir T.

as far as der hammer,, i would support that lynch i know he is a claimed miller but i do not understand why its in the best interest of the town to keep him around, cause we will show up as scum if investigated, so that would be a wasted investigation, but if we lkynch him that would also be a wasted lynch,and the scum get a kill , so by lynching der hammer it would be like if we voted not lynch at this point right?,, so thats the quandry as i understand it is that correct??

No.

The quandary is that some people (see Xyl's posts for a better explanation) have a view that miller claims are innately scummy and should be auto-lynchable offences . Others (eg. me) think that miller claims should be treated with doubt and so on, but not an autolynch.

There are also the subsequent posts by DH to consider.

such as his lack of content, and utter non opinion on anything really related to the game? there by makin his his claim seem scummy

[tubby216]

ok thanks yos i was just trying really hard to understand the theory behind it,, for some reason its one of the concepts i cannot get,

[tubby216]

One more thing, your unvote is totally baseless. I am not being voted because I am lurking (or, atleast you are not doing that for that reason). It isn't a pressure vote to get me posting. So, why the hell do you unvote because I am being replaced? When you already KNEW I was going to be replaced when you put that vote on me in the first place? What is your logic here? Am I suddenly less scummy to you because I am being replaced?

qft

[tubby216]

^i think i just died a lil inside,,

[tubby216]

ok i agree with ckd

but i still don't see why or where seraphim is a better lynch than OGML

[tubby216]

I think he is scummy (for play, not for claim) and would be an acceptable lynch.

i agree, i think der hammer is a good lynch

so

unvote

vote der hammer

[tubby216]

For now I'll say that I'm really not like the way so many people are leaping onto the Sepharim wagon without giving any reasons whatsoever.

qft

[tubby216]

Prod received. Sorry I got flaky with this game. I should have something by tomorrow that is substance.

holy crap i forgot you were in this game

[tubby216]

ok here is what i want to know,

based off of his claim and his play why does der hammer deserve a pass?

and what make seraphim so much more scummier than anybody else?

[tubby216]

and what make seraphim so much more scummier than anybody else?

He hasn't played much is one reason. His early posts were dodgy too. His vote on Der Hammer looked opportunistic and a bit wrong when he made it. He has been trying to actively avoid posting lately as he's come under pressure. All good reasons to suspect him.

but as to the first part of my question, why does der hammer get a pass?? because in my etyes he has done exactly what you are accusing seraphim of but in addition he claimed miller

[tubby216]

i dont even really know about seraphim. it really just seems like the only viable wagons at this point are on people who could turn out town as easily as scum.

I hate, hate, hate the phrase "could turn out town as easily as scum". It's a weasel phrase used by people who are afraid to commit to a lynch even though they don't have any better option. We have to lynch

somebody

, and the chances are that person will be town, because most players in the game are town! The absolute probability of any given day 1 lynch being scum is irrelevant, it's only the relative probability compared to other lynches that matters.

agreed,

i still think der hammer should be lynched,

i don't see why keepin him around would do any good

[tubby216]

btw i appologize for my absence sick kids

[tubby216]

Miller lynch > Townie lynch

Yeah, but not by much, especally after claims. A clamed miller is only slightly less useful then a claimed townie at this point; after all, a guy who looks scummy and gets wagoned to a vanillia townie claim under pressure day 1 probably shouldn't get an early cop investigating anyway.

this is the part where i get lost. If not now when is the proper time to lynch a claimed miller? cause as i see it now most everyone is content to give him a pass through day one. But my question is this how long does that pass last. I just don't want to waste time agian on the der hammer issue, or agian on day three. I feel its in our best intrest to lynch him now and be done with it.

[tubby216]

but after some discussion claus could better pick out who his suspect should be.

i think what ecto is getting at this game is called "mafia" not "folllow the cop"


i still don't like OGML and i still think we should have lynched Der hammer

[tubby216]

tubby216 just massively spiked my scumdar.

but after some discussion claus could better pick out who his suspect should be.

Looks like he's trying to preemptively discredit the claimed cop...

no i was simply stating why i thought he may withhold his results,, sheesh xyl take a breath its still early in the day i have plenty of time left to make you want to lynch me, lol

[tubby216]

i have no clue what his results are,

and ecto explained it better already

[tubby216]

well i believe i am playing differently than i did in that game

[tubby216]

xyl can you give an example of when you were scum in a game, a nifty link would be neat-o!! thanks

[tubby216]

boo,,, seriously

no points for you elmo

[tubby216]

I think I'd rather look at DH and tubby today rather than OGML.

hush we have been of both cases its not worth it now

[tubby216]

ebwop

i meant to say we have been all over those cases and now is not the time to rehash it

[tubby216]

DH was one of the top two lynch candidates yesterday. Why shouldn't we keep looking at him today?

exactly i wanted him gone i was on his wagon, but i consider the rehashing the der hammer case day after day to be very anit town especially when he hasn't posted today yet ( that i know of) either we lynch him now or we don't thats it.

continue this line of misdirection and you will earn my vote, i am trying to finish the scum reads on you first before i make my decsion

[tubby216]

Tubby:

Why don't you like OGML? (if you have posted it before, please write it again) - Do you think he is best or worse than DH at this moment?

How much scummy is Xyl compared to OGML and DH?

On OGML, here is a quote wich outline the basic case:

Ok so upon re-read and a little incentive due to OMUGUS here’s my case on OGML

Page 10

Yos starts his lurker hunt,, good Idea I would do it too the imediatley after OGML says this

i am supremely disturbed by yos' lurkerhunt

Then I said this,,

@ yos
i have posted i have been reading i have nothing of substance to post, untill something pops up that i need to adress i prefer to stay out of the way

the ogml says this

^^^ Now THERE'S a lurker who warrants some real pressure

,,, odd huh just a a lil while ago he was all happy with the “scum” he found and lurkers to be of little or no consequence now he is pressuring me??? How odd

Then right after Seraphim,Hoopla, and SensFan vote for me right after another with little or no comment,, I find that odd as well then Yos come in with this a good case post #246
Next is militant with post 248 nice work

Then ogml has this to say

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

This bandwagon has some legs.

you wanna explain what happened to the scum you found?? I mean seriously what the hell

granted i diddn't notice but militant already made this same case,, wich you OGML have refused to answer ,, hoopla even unvoted and voted you wanting to know the case on SIR T and yet you refuse cause you seem to think it is far better to lynch me on policy then spend time hunting scum??? seriously what the hell??

so here is what i think:
townies,, Yos, BM, Hoopla, Militant, ecto, and tubby

null- sensfan, curios karmadog,farside22, sir t,incognito,natarisha

anti town, ogml,seraphim, puta,killa seven


so there is my thoughts

That’s where I first btought it up,, But puta was still lurkin and bein an ass so my vote went to puta,,,

Then after the v/la OGML comes in and says this

There isn't much to report on pages 15 and 16 except Tubby has stopped lurking and is looking sane again.

Putta Putta, well... that is the sort of D1 bandwagon, which inevitably takes place in almost every game I play, and I am always uncomfortable with it, and I always announce, that I think that person is town, so let's get this out of the way:

I think Putta Putta is giving out null tells at the moment. The reasoning being, I don't see either town OR scum playing the way Putta Putta is playing at the moment. Horrible play. Has anyone played before with Putta? Is this normal for him (her?)?

This?? This is how you tie me to Sir T? come on the only thing connecting me to Sir T is that there is nothing to connect us together,,
So my question to you is, Grasp at straws much??

Unvote, Vote: tubby216

K7 gets a meta pass from me for lurking, for now.

Tubby seems to have tried to scare people off his wagon with this weirdly vague softclaim-type thing, which was really scummy but got swamped by gimbo puta's shenanigans.

Did I used to date your sister?? What’s with all the hate??

As far as I can tell puta puta aka gimbo just got wagoned to a claim in every game he was in and claimed some kind of town power. He's a dick. Guess we'll need to hear from his replacement, but he still looks like a good lynch, or at least righteous vig material.

Reading up today.

Really are you trying to be sarcastic or did you get confused,, PP the waste of space claimed cop, so he looks like a good lynch? Or even vig kill material, how you figure?? Atleast wait until we hear from his replacement,, impatient much??

So congradulation OGML you have won my vote,

vote OGML

oh yah and answer farside too while your at it,

BM, Xyl thoughts??

And as far as xyl goes I haven’t fineshed with the other games he sited but he is climbing up my list,

As far as der hammer goes, his time for lynching has past if we were going to lynch him we should have done so yesterday now is not the time to disscuss it

[tubby216]

That sounds awfully like "We needed to either lynch Der Hammer yesterday or give him a free pass forever".

see this gets me a lil heated.

I asked these same questions yesterday tward the end of the day. but everyone was so sure that seraphim was scum that they got passed over or half answered.

i said i did not want the der hammer thing to continue to come up day after day like it is today, and i believe xyl even agreed with me on that.

but i figured day two in a game of this size is not the day to worry about a miller who barely posts much anyway,

[tubby216]

unvote, vote SensFan

a bit premature don't ya think? i would have waited til monday to vote sens

[tubby216]

@xyl,

ok

[tubby216]

when did i do that??

[tubby216]

oh nevermind, fixed

[tubby216]

Whoops. I'm on this game this weekend.

O RLY

i agree

unvote vote sensfan

[tubby216]

sorry checkin in, please note my signature

[tubby216]

@claus

its in his flare or attitude i am getting from his posts its more of a feeling based off of his tone

[tubby216]

unvote, vote nat

[tubby216]

ok wow so alot happened,

need to re-read

[tubby216]

ecto why hoopla??

[tubby216]

i would be content with an ogml lynch, wich i stated awhile back

[tubby216]

hmm ok iam with iaun

vote ckd

[tubby216]

vote magi

[tubby216]

xyl k7 just plain lurks

[tubby216]

thats cause ecto has huge brass ones and feel that tomorrow without the help of the cop to tel us who the vote you should be the lynch tomorrow

[tubby216]

magi isn't lynched yet who is left to vote??

[tubby216]

i'm good with that

vote: sensfan

[tubby216]

brilliant response

yup leaving my vote where it is

[tubby216]

no the part where you voted me,

it seems off, like out of the three people you mentioned as scum ( with out any justification or insight i might add) u decided to vote for me. Wich in all likelyhood is the easier lynch since i came so close to it back on day.

You have no real evidence, no quotes or slip ups to point out. I believe you are scum and are trying to skate to a win.

[tubby216]

no the part where you voted me,

it seems off, like out of the three people you mentioned as scum ( with out any justification or insight i might add) u decided to vote for me. Wich in all likelyhood is the easier lynch since i came so close to it back on day 1.

You have no real evidence, no quotes or slip ups to point out. I believe you are scum and are trying to skate to a win.

sorry forgot to put the day number in there *fixed

[tubby216]

oh come off it, xyl thats as much bs as sens seriously i know you got alot goin on but focus here a little please

[tubby216]

fine have it your way i'll go quietly although i don't see where i slipped up. i have nothing to slipp up about

[tubby216]

no the part where you voted me,

it seems off, like out of the three people you mentioned as scum ( with out any justification or insight i might add) u decided to vote for me. Wich in all likelyhood is the easier lynch since i came so close to it back on day.

You have no real evidence, no quotes or slip ups to point out. I believe you are scum and are trying to skate to a win.

Well, if I recall correctly, I voted you back on Day 1, first of all.
Secondly, I'm fitting in my MafiaScum time on computer labs at University at the moment, since I'm without a laptop. Not ideal conditions for large 'I haven't posted anything of real value in ages, so these are all the reasons why I am voting you:' posts.

you also voted me without reason on day one as well,

and if you are havin issues request replacement

[tubby216]

I'm guessing SensFan and tubby are scum on different teams.

wrong agian but thanks for tryin

[tubby216]

i'll hold my breath watch as i turn purple.

[tubby216]

Still waiting for sens' most insightful post.

[tubby216]

What more is there to say about tubby's play?

what do you mean about my play?

that i've answered every questioned asked to the best of my ability? Or that i diddn't make empty promises?

[tubby216]

I keep forgetting this game is on day 4. It still feels like day 1.

I should probably go analyze dead scum or something.

no just re-read the last two pages oris that xyl rule only when first entering a game in wich you are replacing?

[tubby216]

Tubby: SInce Sensfan is totally failing at trying to make a case against you, it would be wise for you to actually make a case against him, especally since you've been voting him for a while now and all you said about it was "I'm good with that".

okie dokie

[tubby216]

ok so his first post is responding to a prod.

then after that on nov12 he was "catching up and switched his vote to 3 differen people

his chioces were:

1)hoopla for hoopla's nolynch vote and defense of vote

2)then bm for undermining the random stage

3)then back to hoopla

his vote stays onm hoopla while sens and bm have a disscussion/argument.


then he promptly gets in an argument with ckd over a question he never answered

a while later after absence, he posts this

Nice misrep on that one.

You do realise that your post history in this thread is freely available for all to view, right?

Of course.

What you didn't mention is that I was gone from the site for about 2-3 weeks in that timespan, that we've had two nights, and that we've had a day that lasted a little over a week (iirc) in which it would have been anti-Town to post any opinions on anything, since we had already decided who to lynch.

That last part is also

precisely why

I asked Claus for his result before I posted who I felt was scummy.

basically makin an excuse for why he was gone and asking for mercy and or a lil understanding

but when i was at witts end after comin back from a v/la wich i thought i had explained i got this fome him

i'm not concerned,, i just find it amusing its like i am damned if i do and damned if i don't

If you don't post, you will be lynched. If you soft-claim, you will be wagoned until a full claim.

then after that he is gone for 14 rl days and posts this

Sorry for absense, catching up.

after another 26 rl days we get

Whoops. I'm on this game this weekend.

and

Alright, so its taking me a little more time than had planned. I will be contributing by THIS weekend. Guaranteed.

then after that he starts sweating about claus' result to me looks like scum tryin to figure out if he is caught or not,
he said it would be anti town to talk still if claus had a guilty already. i strongly dissagree because the more we talk the more scum slipp up and the more info we have as town.

so yah i am pretty comfortable voting sens

[tubby216]

is that waht you were askin for yos? and btw it only took me 30 mins , but then agian i diddn't have content to work with either

[tubby216]

This sense of Tubby vs Sensfan disturbs me and Yosarian's apparent attempt to cement that idea disturbs me more.

Hey Tubby, I thought I saw something like this, but then had to backtrack because I missed Claus actually naming his guilty suspect. Was this quoted section prior to that?

then after that he starts sweating about claus' result to me looks like scum tryin to figure out if he is caught or not,
he said it would be anti town to talk still if claus had a guilty already. i strongly dissagree because the more we talk the more scum slipp up and the more info we have as town

Waiting with baited breath Sensfan.

ecto are you supporting that comment or questioning it?

[tubby216]

@ecto let me reread i pulled that out of sens in iso so let me go back and check

[tubby216]

'sup tubby, how are you doing?

hi Adel. Should i just go quietly to the gallows now and save you the trouble of building a case and the endless pages of debates, useless defenses and witty banter? or would you rather we just play this out?


btw if yur scum town=fail

[tubby216]

no i just knew that I would be the first you looked at.

have you read the thread? at all? I am town please re-read and try agian.

[tubby216]

nope had it that way for like ever

[tubby216]

no i am not replacing, i am not givin up,

and is all this nessasary?


i was just tryin to help fonz out with advertising

[tubby216]

oh btw congrats on your scummie,


and do you have any comments on CKD?

and from your read who do feel is scummy?

[tubby216]

Vote: iamausername

any particular reason

[tubby216]

is anyone familiar with the "unrecruited mafia traitor" role? how do you suppose it works?

you know who all the mafia are in that particular mafia group however they do not know who you are, typically this role's win condition is when the mafia make up 50% of the town not including them.

from this we gather that the mafia can recruit or attept to recruit now wether that inlue of a kill i have no idea,


the only reason i know about this role is i had this role in another game,



@ecto
why???

[tubby216]

@ecto
why???

2 scum groups make even scum good at scum hunting. I think you be purple and Xyl routed you out.

lame try agian

[tubby216]

Hi Adel.

is anyone familiar with the "unrecruited mafia traitor" role? how do you suppose it works?

you know who all the mafia are in that particular mafia group however they do not know who you are, typically this role's win condition is when the mafia make up 50% of the town not including them.

from this we gather that the mafia can recruit or attept to recruit now wether that inlue of a kill i have no idea,


the only reason i know about this role is i had this role in another game,



@ecto
why???

Well, that's how it normally works, but I notice that he's a different color then either scum group; perhaps either scum group could have recruited him, or something like that?

more likely he was simply unrecruited so he had no true algiance to either group

[tubby216]

1 line slips?
show me please

[tubby216]

diddn't der hammer claime miller way back forever ago?

[tubby216]

no its not i was just tryin to remeber who he is/was in this game so i know how to proceed with his possible replacemnet,

and ask the question agian ,, now that it is a few days later should we lynch the miller? since he wasn't nk'd?

[tubby216]

ok so there are 8 people left alive, its my guess that are 3 scum left

is it approriate to massclaim at this point?

[tubby216]

ok so there are 8 people left alive, its my guess that are 3 scum left

why 3? How many scum groups do you think we have?

I still haven't read the entire game yet, but could someone help me by answering:

• 1. did Der Hammer claim "miller" after it was revealed by the mod that there are two cops in the setup?
  How is a claimed miller still alive?
  Are we looking for 3 player or 4 player scum groups?

i was thinkin there would be three scum left because i figured there were two teams of three, simular to an ongoin game in wich i was lynched in

[tubby216]

and no he claimed miller prior to the two cop reveal

[tubby216]

Two scumgroups it is. I stand corrected.

I've got out next scum though.

Vote: iamausername

I've been vascillating on xyl being scum for the last two days, but I'm pretty sure now that he and username make way too much sense as a scumpair. Just look at sobeahero (who iaun replaced) defending the everliving fuck out of george carlin (who xyl replaced), and littering his posts with false dilemmas so bad that even username had to call them out when he replaced.

is this what you meant?

[tubby216]

xyl was unrecruited. meaning he belonged to neither,
the only reason xyl thought me scum was do to my preformance in his game xyl's relative chaos where i was scum.



but here is a question,
if you lynch me today and i am townwill that put us a lylo tomorrow?

[tubby216]

ok just thought i'd ask

[tubby216]

i think ecto just doesn't care and simply wants me hung

[tubby216]

in response to ecto's explination post.

no i would not have tried to strike a bargian, bargians don't work before lylo, if we were about to enter lylo then i would be fighting harder not to get lynched, but since we are not entering lylo tomorrow then i am ok with you carrying out your lynch, I just think if i am the lynch for today that we need to look elsewhere before the hammer falls.

[tubby216]

people i want looked at are

OGML,Der Hammer, Iamusername, and depending what adel says upon completetion of their read i want ckd/adel looked at too

reasons:

OGML- I diddn't like his play day1, i posted a case on him but it was quite OMGUSy but still i would like that reviewed i think something is there,

Der Hammer- after claiming miller, lurked tremendously, would like to see input from him or someone to annylise him

Iamusername- not really sure just kind of a gut feeling at this point so i am going to reveiw him today as well to see if i find anything.

[tubby216]

or why don't we nolynch today and see waht happens tonite?

that would still give us better odds yes?

[tubby216]

wow yos thanks for all that work,, give me a lil bit to re-read a few time to make sure i got it then i'll post thoughts but I wanted to let you know i appreciated the effort involved.

[tubby216]

I think that lynching red today is a good idea.

Unvote, Vote: Ectomancer

care to elaborate as to why??

[tubby216]

this game could use a nice healthy dose of adel right now,, how is that read comin?

[tubby216]

@tuby, I'm thinking that you are town. I normally wouldn't tell you, but I think that there are only a few of us left, and we need to work together.

ok i am giving you some latitude , but you know what that looks like right?


also i would like your thoughts on yos and ogml please

[tubby216]

oh and at this point i would be content with a der hammer lynch,

here's why, yes he is a claimed miller and we let him live, however if had been in his shows i would be workin my ass off in this game to get the true scum

so with that

unvote: vote: der hammer

i thinlk at this point its a good lynch

[tubby216]

ok well i am up for a ogml lynch, but do you feel that he is better than der hammer and if so why,,


and yos what are your thoughts on ecto/ogml

[tubby216]

yos other than getting into a big WIFOM discussion, with adels new findings on der hammer do you think he is lynchable at this point, I understand that at this point we are not in lylo but this is a critical lynch for us because depending on who we lynch may or may not directly affect who gets killed tonite, at this point i am content to call yoou (yos) and adel town so i am trying to get a consensus of what you guys thinkin to help us get this right.



@ carn carn~ i know you have alot to catch up on but what are your thoughts on the last three pages

@ iamusername~ same question

ecto is pending replacement correct??

i would also like to ear from der hammer and ogml too at somepoint soonest would be best

[tubby216]

i see what you are saying but its not enough yet for me to switch off of der hammer

[tubby216]

i was talkin about adels vote on you,, from the manner in wich adel voted adel wants this

1) you to be lynched
2) support/ help in lynching you
3)or more pressure to see ho you will react


any one of or a combination of the above mentioned

[tubby216]

any further thoughts?

[tubby216]

i hole heartly support his lynch in fact my vote is still on him what more can i do?

unless you and yos wanna join me that would be nifty

[tubby216]

ok so both yos and adel thinks carn carn is the correct lynch?

well since i believe you both to be the most town left i'll move my vote

unvote, vote carn carn

[tubby216]

say something anything anyone but me yos and adel

[tubby216]

good read howard i look forward to more

[tubby216]

agian if iaaun is so horrible why the omgus on yos??

[tubby216]

well first you said this

@ CarnCarn and Der Hammer:

what do you make of the information found at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... mausername

?

If you're referring to IAAUN's postage in other games except this, I think it's a null-tell.

then we get this

Adel: I'm talking about the IAAUN posts you linked to - what did you find noteworthy about them? And what makes you think I'm "probable" scum?

the this post

And you're right, Iamasuername is also lurking pretty hardcore; the only difference is that it looks more like you are around but intentionally trying to stay under the radar, while he looks more like someone who, as you've said, seems to be completly gone. Do you think Iamusername is likely to be scum, or is this just random mudslinging? If so, why?

I haven't been around at all - if you look at my posting history you'll notice I haven't been posting in any games over the past week or so, and also when I was gone when I was sick.

IAAUN on the other hand, if you remember Adel's link to his post history, has been around and posting in other threads.

I'll agree that lurking/inactivity isn't helpful to town, but when you've mentioned lurking, except for one post, you've referred only to me and DH.

I do disagree with you that scum are likely to lurk here. What makes them more likely to lurk than not lurk? It's (lurking) is easily seen as hurting town, so why would they (scum) do that? Scum are much more subtle than that when it comes to hurting town.

As for why I think IAAUN is scum, it was mostly a gut read from what I read of sobeahero's posts (whom IAAUN replaced). I'll try to point out specific posts that got me to think that way when I have some more time later tonight.

do you see what you did there??

[tubby216]

well first you said this

@ CarnCarn and Der Hammer:

what do you make of the information found at http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... mausername

?

If you're referring to IAAUN's postage in other games except this, I think it's a null-tell.

then we get this

Adel: I'm talking about the IAAUN posts you linked to - what did you find noteworthy about them? And what makes you think I'm "probable" scum?

the this post

And you're right, Iamasuername is also lurking pretty hardcore; the only difference is that it looks more like you are around but intentionally trying to stay under the radar, while he looks more like someone who, as you've said, seems to be completly gone. Do you think Iamusername is likely to be scum, or is this just random mudslinging? If so, why?

I haven't been around at all - if you look at my posting history you'll notice I haven't been posting in any games over the past week or so, and also when I was gone when I was sick.

IAAUN on the other hand, if you remember Adel's link to his post history, has been around and posting in other threads.

I'll agree that lurking/inactivity isn't helpful to town, but when you've mentioned lurking, except for one post, you've referred only to me and DH.

I do disagree with you that scum are likely to lurk here. What makes them more likely to lurk than not lurk? It's (lurking) is easily seen as hurting town, so why would they (scum) do that? Scum are much more subtle than that when it comes to hurting town.

As for why I think IAAUN is scum, it was mostly a gut read from what I read of sobeahero's posts (whom IAAUN replaced). I'll try to point out specific posts that got me to think that way when I have some more time later tonight.

do you see what you did there??

[tubby216]

shit sorry diddn't mean to double post that,,,

mod a lil help here please??

[tubby216]

carn carn, yos adel ogml thoughts on howard thus far??

i like his reads thus far

[tubby216]

when adel started posting town like.


so at this point since everyone has basically shut and has not played this game, i say we der hammer,,

carn carn has contributed a lil but since the pressure is off he has dissappeared,

this lurktastic game needs more adel and adel epic-like pressure posting,,,

[tubby216]

i will be v/la until tomorrow nite emergency work trip{i so hate my job}

[tubby216]

well what the hell happened to carn carn? seriously he gained pressure responded then howard game in and no he is ghost?? wtf??

[tubby216]

well what the hell happened to carn carn? seriously he gained pressure responded then howard game in and no he is ghost?? wtf??

the answers you seek are located at: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/search.p ... r=CarnCarn

so he hasn't been here in this game in over a week and anywhere on the site since tues?? lame

[tubby216]

Right. Attention forces with nightkills - please make sure HowardRoark does not live to see the next dawn.

Somebody else please step up before the deadline and make sure we don't end up with a no lynch.

add Der Hammer to that list.

I want Der Hamer, Carn Carn and HR dead by tomorrow.

this worries me,

becareful adel the ice pack you are standing on is getting thinner

[tubby216]

I actually prefer the Der Hammer lynch to Carn Carn.

becareful adel the ice pack you are standing on is getting thinner

lol.
or what? you'll threaten to go "MMA" on me again like you did in mini 703? I recall that not working out for you very well.

no its just you are getting awful close to having me question you thats all.

but in better news sure i am down for a der hammer lynch

unvote: vote: der hammer

[tubby216]

Eh...I'd still rather lynch Carn, I still think he's probably the purple scum. I'll hammer whoever is necessary in order to avoid a no-lynch, though.

or you could quit stalling and vote der hammer,, like now perhaps would be good



speaking of wich where is hr and ogml????

[tubby216]

its waiting to vote,, thats the part i do not like. i have been screwed over before people "oh i'l hammer "

screw that if you are goin to vote vote

[tubby216]

boo twisting

[tubby216]

my head hurts,,

adel do you wanna hop back with me? how ever i doubt iaun will join us hr will under time pressure, but then agian yos said he would join us under time pressure too


so should i stay or should i go now(* invokes classic punk*)

[tubby216]

ok fine following adel

unvote, vote: carn carn

[tubby216]

adel u are slippin,

[tubby216]

ok nobody vote because scum can easily quick hammer for the win.

i think a mass claim is in order. thoughts??

[tubby216]

tubby, you followed Adel's vote for most of yesterday, but when she flipped back to Der Hammer in Post #1652, you didn't follow. Why not?

because i have seen adel do this before, i knew what adel was up to. adel was trying for lurkers to be vocal and play. some people react to

FOS

's but every one reacts to

VOTE "their name"

. since that is a true statement. people will react more quickly if there are two votes on them or their partner alot faster than one vote,

as to why i diddn't follow onto der hammer hammer was i felt carn carn was the better lynch. I also knew adel would come back to hammer or l-1 carn carn agian,

adel used this tactic expertly in mini 703 where adel caught me as "scum" i think i am officially goin to call this tactic the "pickle play". you know like in baseball when the runner is caught between two fielders and they throw the ball back and forth until the runner is eventually caught.

[tubby216]

ok then


adel the longer this plays out the more i am thinking you scum,

right now from your meta on 703 you are playing exactly like you did there, wich there is nothing wrong with that i suspose unless you are doing in order to get me to believe you town and never think of you as scum. Most people would change up their game just a little bit. and for you to to write me off without so much as a vote or a mention of possibility of me being scumm has me worried. normally you would have pressured the crap out of me or something to either confim me or out me.

does anyone else see this or am i being paranoid??

[tubby216]

Tubby: Could you explain a little more what you mean about the Adel metagame thing? I'm a bit confused by what you mean there.

well i guess its all WIFOM but here it is,

Adel is using what i know to be a town meta play. IE adel is playing the exact way that she did in mini 703 thereby making me think at first look Adel=town. adel scum would do this to get me on her side knowing i would follow her into end game.


If i were adel scum i would use this to either

1) aide her in convincing tubby that her and her partner are town and there y lynching remaining town.

2) help her bus her remaining partner then taking me to 3 player endgame where i would follow her agian and she still wins


does that make sense?

[tubby216]

honestly i have no idea i'll have to read on him awhile...

let me do that and i will get back to you

[tubby216]

ok so who is claiming first?? the der hammer replacement? if and when we get one??

[tubby216]

holy crap good luck seraphimII

[tubby216]

i thought ogml was scum


and what am i susposed to answer to agian??

[tubby216]

vanilla townie.

I want yos to claim next.

[tubby216]

honestly i have no idea i'll have to read on him awhile...

let me do that and i will get back to you

Still waiting to hear what tubby thinks about imusername.

meh i gave up on since i diddn't see anything right off

[tubby216]

really he seems pretty active in this since its a lurkfest

[tubby216]

I'm in no big rush; this is lynch or lose, after all, and most of the town is being frustratingly quiet; I want to get reactions out of everyone, try to get as much information as I can. Why, what's your rush?

are you sure this is lynch or lose?

i mean sure its possible but there were still two kills last nite, so to me there is probably two killing elements left

[tubby216]

no i am trying to figure this out,,

[tubby216]

^ what ??

[tubby216]

tubby are you actually working at getting me to vote for you? Are you scum with Seraphim and trying to set up an iamausername mislynch?

no

i was tryin to figure out your points gambit thingy

but i got it now

[tubby216]

as far as my feelings go on everyone else

adel= most likely town or has me completely fooled

yos= probably town but could be scum

seraphim= most likley scum, i do not see why a claimed miller would live this long

iaun= probably scum

[tubby216]

um pretty much seraphim,, i mean i cannot hold der hammers cronic lurking agianst you can i?

[tubby216]

i really don't like the point plan i understand it but i do not support it

[tubby216]

ok so now what ??

[tubby216]

2 points to serphim
1 point to iamusername

Original Roll String: 1d5

1 5-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

1. Adel
2. iamausername
3. Seraphim
4. tubby
5. Yos2

[tubby216]

2 points to seraphim
1 point to iamusername

Original Roll String: 1d4

1 4-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

1. Adel
2. iamausername
3. Seraphim
4. Yos2

[tubby216]

was that good?? oh and your up adel

[tubby216]

2 points serphim
1 point iamusernemae

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

1. iamausername
2. Yos2

sorry i diddn't realize it was my turn

[tubby216]

ok so this leads us to what end then?`

i say we just lynch serphim and get it over with

[tubby216]

well i really don't think adel is scum, cause if adel was scum adel would have already built a pretty nice case agianst me and i would have already been lynched. But since no such case has been made and i still exsist in this game adel must be town.

[tubby216]

so he is the correct lynch why?

[tubby216]

well i really don't think adel is scum, cause if adel was scum adel would have already built a pretty nice case agianst me and i would have already been lynched. But since no such case has been made and i still exsist in this game adel must be town.

Why would scum Adel necessarily have to target

you

for the mislynch? Because she said so?

Had I realised the existence of the point threshhold at that time,

weren't you the one that pointed out my math error?

6. since there are a total of 30 points, 16 points represents a true majority.

5 players * 3 points * 3 rounds = 45 points in total, not 30, no?

oh yeah, you were.

vote:iamausername

Uh. Look, I don't know, maybe I saw "total of 30 points", thought that sounded wrong, didn't read the rest of the sentence because I was too busy working out that it was? I honestly have no idea how I managed to spot the error without the whole thing registering. That's really dumb. But seriously, why would I lie about that? What's the point? What the hell do I stand to gain from it?

no silly pants, have you read this thread at all??

look back to say day one i was well on my way to getting lynched, the more pressure that got added the more and more i flaked and the more scummy i looked. Therefore it would be quite easy for adel(scum) to apply just a little pressure just to watch the rest of the town jump on me and i get lynched.

so since none of that has happened i believe adel = town

[tubby216]

what was the final point rundown thingy

[tubby216]

Adel wasn't even in the game on D1, though.

:FACEPALM:

thats not the point,

the point is i was and every day that hasn't been a cop outing a scum i have been considered for that days lynch, it doesn't take much to get a tubby wagon goin, its like dollar days at walmart everybody runs to that sale.

[tubby216]

nope still townie sorry to dissapoint

[tubby216]

damn it i knew it,, i completely screwed this up,,


well played yos, and adel as always well played

[tubby216]

well do i get a scooby snack for being adel's lapdog?

[tubby216]

i thought it was an excellant game fonz,

my play was poor but i did make it to endgame wich is kinda cool,

i kept second guessing myself especially when adel replaced in.

I thought for a hot second that adel could be scum but then decided agianst it goin with "some times it is what it appears to be" line of logic, i felt i was reading to far into it.

i must be more careful when it comes to adel, yos played an excellant game i never really suspect yos i thought yos was town as all heck.