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[the worst]

oh don't welcome me I'm really shy. I'm just, gonna sit over here and hang out. I hope everyone's having fun.

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Hi the worst

ah its too late... hey hu tao, how're you doing?

I haven't caught up yet is there anything I should know?

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we massclaiming? cool I'll go last

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is naerys confirmed scum?

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as a rule of thumb I like massclaim the day before yeetlo

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Hello the worst

hey naerys how's it going?


my bravado about claiming is suddenly diminishing lmao I don't think y'all are going to like my claim much

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Is it complex vanilla scum?

what makes you guess this?

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Also wassup tw

heyo Gamma been a loooong minute

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unnecessary misfades

Gotta go to a better barber my guy

just dawning on me I get a whole game worth of pisskop posts to catch up on and I'm hype.

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anyone willing to compile a summary of players to their claims rq? I will be able to catch up on this game before super long but it won't be a quick thing.

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day isn't over I don't think !

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just gonna put this one out here because y'all are gonna love it: i'm a complex vig!

@flav what are your results?

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anyone willing to compile a summary of players to their claims rq? I will be able to catch up on this game before super long but it won't be a quick thing.

i have this much:
FL - loyal vig neighbor
Snivy - some bp neighbor
Dave - some cop
Naerys- vanilla

theres probably more

thanks very much btw

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were y'all neighbours from the start or do we have a backup neighbour or smth?

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i'm a complex vig!

Is this your 100% real for true claim?

There's a reason I was perplexed about you asking if I was a complex goon, my friend

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I think Dave needs to full claim here because Flavor Leaf is a de facto loyal cop

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also for obvious reasons I will not be suggesting FL & I do the mutual clear thing - if I'm lying he won't hit me, and my first instinct is to believe his claim.

We do need his results tho because he is a de facto cop

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I don't know how well you know dragons but that mans is as cool as a cucumber.

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As a general rule I'd suggest everyone is careful about whether they claim vanilla or non vanilla that's all I'm sayin

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Snivy claimed BP, so could test that to see if they said that just to try and defend against a possible guilty.

I'll suss Snivy's alignment when I'm sober but I'm down for this ya

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Why wouldn't StD just shoot Flavor?

They are both very, very heavily gated vigilantes. Flavor Leaf is mixed utility, I/dragons are negative utility with a subversive value.

Shooting Flavor would have been strictly anti-town fmpov.

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Back from trivia, I did OK. So I guess everyone wants to claim. Are we doing this willy nilly like we have been or are we going to do this in some sort of order? I’m going to bed, can claim tomorrow if we have some sort of plan.

please claim your coolest new-found piece of trivia or I will vig you

(with friendship. not with my night action.)

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One of the categories was Halloween trivia, apparently cabbage used to be though to have supernatural properties around Halloween or something like that.

This one is really good. Witchcraft cabbages are my new favourite kind of cabbage.

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Still iffy this weekend, I might be catching up early in the week at this point. Is there anything highly pressing I can do to add value to this game?

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this game does seem to be movin a lil slowly so I will get to it when I get to it

pedit: I'd rather hold that til after massclaim given I can sort vt from non-vt

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I'm actually not gonna until after massclaim, unless you have a pretty good reason lol. I'd like a couple of people to lose the option to fakeclaim.

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oh last I knew there were like 5 claims including me

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Hunting for a serial killer when it's 3:12 or 3:1:11 and we have had one kill per night is goofy af you're better than that

can I get an update on claims please? multitasking until a bit later

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if I hardclaim sk right now, we should be looking for group scum anyway. use your vote better.

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Worst Freudian slipped with the 3:12.

Why you assuming 3:12 not 4:11?

have we ever run 4:11 on here? that's scumsided af as a baseline

if anyone has the claims handy I can give some more comments on balance but that's not a slip. that's mafia theory.

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a caught SK is a survivor with a vig shot. the only way I could keep my win con alive would be to shoot along with town's reads.

I'm like, also not an SK, but I'm right here.

just to boot - an SK witch hunt is going to lose significantly more games than random because it is a very easy smokescreen for groupscum to hide behind. if you're going to lead this and turbo lim me because you decided today is think like a crab day, then at least find groupscum at the same time.

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TW SK, Celeblock Mafia Doc with like…Gob or something.

Could be Naerys, but idk, something made me feel off with Naerys, and I was ready to end the day a couple hours ago

Actually that last bit's unfair - if this is consensus I'll shoot cele tonight.

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Worst Freudian slipped with the 3:12.

Why you assuming 3:12 not 4:11?

have we ever run 4:11 on here? that's scumsided af as a baseline

if anyone has the claims handy I can give some more comments on balance but that's not a slip. that's mafia theory.

3:11 with in a scenario where you are town, we have a gunsmith and cop makes a scum team with the ability lose Night 1.

I don't know what the claims are, is Dave claiming ungated cop?

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y'all a loyal vig IS an alignment cop lol

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have we had the convo abt whether FL bussed Smiley

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I think this level of abstract moonlogic is within FL's townrange, lolguiltying a neighbour n1 is also within his townrange

abstract moonlogic which steers away from groupscum hunting is a staple of his scumgame, he is a capable busser, and if we have both an alignment cop and a loyal vig one of them is fake

where there's smoke etc.

has anyone gone down this rabbit hole

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I don't expect this to be catastrophic, and this isn't a hill I'll die on, but just for the dramatic flair & to keep the momentum here

VOTE: flavor

pedit: I agree, I don't really plan to BOP him or anything like that. he's very mechanically improbable though like we have an alignment cop claim and a loyal vig claim (which is functionally the same thing), and two gated vig claims. I think two gated vigs can probably coexist before two pseudo ACs can. He is at the cross section of both of these issues. Idk I want to look there.

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I think this level of abstract moonlogic is within FL's townrange, lolguiltying a neighbour n1 is also within his townrange

abstract moonlogic which steers away from groupscum hunting is a staple of his scumgame, he is a capable busser, and if we have both an alignment cop and a loyal vig one of them is fake

where there's smoke etc.

has anyone gone down this rabbit hole

I don’t…think this is true?

bites lip

sorry to break it...

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?

you always throw mud to murky the waters as scum, it's your thing

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Just, like, keep in mind that he aimed at Hu Tao, and that smiley was a weak

obvious

target. who, multiple hoodmates have confirmed, was pretty sus in the hood. It's a perfectly legitimate shot for town!FL to make.

Speaking of, CCS was pretty sus in there too. I think its not impossible there is a second scum in there.

P: @ duck wrt Flavor bussing his scumbud Smiles

sure, fair enough

what would you do about Dave?

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this isn't a 1v1, I'm too tired to have a yelling match at you. just going through what I'm going through now and I guess it's like, a protest vote against the concept of you being soft confirmed?

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?

you always throw mud to murky the waters as scum, it's your thing

You specifically said abstract moon logic to steer away from group hunting scum.

I don’t do abstract moon logic as scum, if anything my points are more valid when I am scum, and i am more logical.

And i would make it look like i am steering towards group hunting scum as scum not steer away from.

Your meta is wrong and it’s there to fit your narrative.

ah - "to drive attention away from people's ability to hunt your team" might word it better? I do agree your scumrange is much wider than just using an SK panic button

you think so re. logical consistency difference? you're someone I regard as perpetually doing his own thing, and it's evident here. I think you're again, too capable to just be logical and boring.

this feels like a pretty semantic argument though we can have a drink and laugh about meta postgame. I'm actually interested in talking to everyone else alive about your ostensible motives in this game, instead.

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this isn't a 1v1, I'm too tired to have a yelling match at you. just going through what I'm going through now and I guess it's like, a protest vote against the concept of you being soft confirmed?

Yeah, you’re pushing it on a mech level, when I’m more conf based on an objective level.

The "objective level" you mention requires a lot of leaps of logic tbf I don't think it presents as, like, even remotely likely.

I guess the proof is in the plist though if everyone is convinced that the grand duck conspiracy is the answer and that I need to go before we need to look for partners, then that's what it is.

fmpov you do need me removed if you're scum, you seem eerily unconcerned about the claim clash with Dave, all of this does look like scum manoeuvring

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if we have both an alignment cop and a loyal vig one of them is fake

That’s a nice argument senator, why don’t you back it up with a source

oof I am many things but I am not a senator

it's like.... those are two roles who are capable of receiving an alignment relates result every night. alignment results are pretty rare in any game. do you think they're likely to both be real?

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what would you do about Dave?

Would dave, scumbuddy, lie to keep his other buddy alive?

I assume that since he claimed cop, and explicitly a cop, he got a positive result, meaning he wasnt blocked.

eehh I don't know but I doubt it. if anything it might be a stalling tactic. I think Dave tends to play pretty straight with claims if I'm being honest - it's either something coordinated by a team (in which case I doubt the partner is Naerys because v high risk) or it's just real.

so like, no I don't really think dave/naerys is a thing

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The worst didn’t start any of this until after I called them out is the biggest tell TW is SK.

I’m the one who didn’t agree with the takes.

It also makes objectively no sense for me to do this so close to a misfade going through when you were stating you didn’t want to do the mutual crossing of the vig shots

not going to try and outguess you regardless of your alignment. just stating for the record that I won't be responding to this.

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VOTE: the worst

where are you at w this Gamma?

I am just, like, not a good lim today

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this isn't a 1v1, I'm too tired to have a yelling match at you. just going through what I'm going through now and I guess it's like, a protest vote against the concept of you being soft confirmed?

Yeah, you’re pushing it on a mech level, when I’m more conf based on an objective level.

The "objective level" you mention requires a lot of leaps of logic tbf I don't think it presents as, like, even remotely likely.

I guess the proof is in the plist though if everyone is convinced that the grand duck conspiracy is the answer and that I need to go before we need to look for partners, then that's what it is.

fmpov you do need me removed if you're scum, you seem eerily unconcerned about the claim clash with Dave, all of this does look like scum manoeuvring

Yes, I’m eerily unconcerned about the claim clash.

It’s why I’ve been spouting Dave to be the first in the mass claim all day long, and trying to get them to full claim their modifier.

I did the same to you.

But go off on how I’m ‘eerily unconcerned’.

If anything, I feel I’m far more concerned than the both of you with it

do you think your roles can co exist within the realms of balanced normal games

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if we have both an alignment cop and a loyal vig one of them is fake

That’s a nice argument senator, why don’t you back it up with a source

oof I am many things but I am not a senator

it's like.... those are two roles who are capable of receiving an alignment relates result every night. alignment results are pretty rare in any game. do you think they're likely to both be real?

There’s a gaping hole in your point, which is neither is able to get results every night

I genuinely am not sure what you mean. an alignment cop receives a return dm, a loyal vig either flips their result for everyone to see or gets no result at about a rate of 75:25 (slightly skewed towards no result ig due to manipulative effects)

What do you mean?


pedit: I can't keep up with the pedits with my internet rn so I'm gonna leave in a sec

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The worst didn’t start any of this until after I called them out is the biggest tell TW is SK.

I’m the one who didn’t agree with the takes.

It also makes objectively no sense for me to do this so close to a misfade going through when you were stating you didn’t want to do the mutual crossing of the vig shots

not going to try and outguess you regardless of your alignment. just stating for the record that I won't be responding to this.

seems to me you're mafia.

are you even in this game who are you,,

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Why is that your first post after 48 hours away from thread?

I was busy and then today i had a small operation so I am looking to engage.

U gonna tell me ??

hope you're doing better

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gob is the random nurse slot

I've read so little of this game that goes over my head completely I was just going for the snark but thank you for clarifying

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I also get the feeling TW knows more of this game than theyre letting on

I've skimmed vote counts, odd pages, and like odd posts around mine plus the last few pages since we started feuding and I went back to check why you were the first vote on Smiley d2. that's abt it.

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Im not voting somebody on the grounds that theyre an sk.

y not? Isn't removing another night kill good for us?

Unless you are trying to bank on the SK killing mafia.

if I can hazard a guess: a caught sk can't afford to make anti-town kills bc they'll just be yeeted

I'm quite comfortable having my kills dictated despite the fact I am a vig, because I am not in a hurry with this game and will likely not be on top of it until towards the end of this phase. I get that's a bit annoying for sorting my alignment.

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Why is that your first post after 48 hours away from thread?

I was busy and then today i had a small operation so I am looking to engage.

U gonna tell me ??

hope you're doing better

most obvious fake-nice pocket attempt by a mafia i've ever seen.

mafia or sk or whatever. I just know you're scum.

people you think are mafia are not scum in real life, and like all things considered this is a game. I don't really care that much about your alignment in the grand scheme of things. but in general I do hope you're recovering well.

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Would dave, scumbuddy, lie to keep his other buddy alive?

Wrong question. Could Dave outright lie regardless of circumstance, to which the answer is a resounding no for anyone who has played many games with me. I can stretch things a little, but a flat lie like that isn't really in my vocabulary. Not to mention I pretty explicitly sussed Hu before night.

I assume that since he claimed cop, and explicitly a cop, he got a positive result, meaning he wasnt blocked.

Correct.

as a certified Davesaz Experiencer (and occasional Davesaz Yell-at-er) I believe this. I do think, at absolute worst, it's a broader gambit but I don't think that's all that likely.

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Im not voting somebody on the grounds that theyre an sk.

y not? Isn't removing another night kill good for us?

Unless you are trying to bank on the SK killing mafia.

if I can hazard a guess: a caught sk can't afford to make anti-town kills bc they'll just be yeeted

I'm quite comfortable having my kills dictated despite the fact I am a vig, because I am not in a hurry with this game and will likely not be on top of it until towards the end of this phase. I get that's a bit annoying for sorting my alignment.

Hmmmmm.

Perhaps I can believe you, maybe if you prove your towniness to me in someway...

I don't do bribes on saturdays sorry

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pisskop is mafia here.

I can see it but I think you'd need to accept that I'm a worthwhile pocket which would motivate pisskop enough to post that he doesn't just lurk and like idk

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1 night kill lets you 50/50 wifom situations, which is basically 100% protection. 2 night kill you don't have that

This is a huge assumption that the bodies-per-night dont support right now

thank you

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Did your predecessor shoot at all tw?

can I get a summary of claims please I can't really put one together rn

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pisskop is mafia here.

I can see it but I think you'd need to accept that I'm a worthwhile pocket which would motivate pisskop enough to post that he doesn't just lurk and like idk

Very odd post where worst agrees with me then weirdly pushes me off for some rando logic.

"agrees" is pretty charitable, it's more like I'm null on pisskop atm

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Did your predecessor shoot at all tw?

can I get a summary of claims please I can't really put one together rn

I will physically make a whole chart of it myself after you claim your targets.

You’re actively waiting so you don’t get caught out imo.

The fact you don’t acknowledge that shows why you are scum here.

Pisskop right, you ain’t SK, you Mafia. Straight up.

I'm only holding off on my targets so people can't fakeclaim. This is scumsiding and I'm surprised if you don't know it lol.

Let me to check

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Night 1 was THS and night 2 was a holster this phase is going quite badly !

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I haven't read d1 or d2 but I suspect those are not decisions I would have made

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heipizhu4, Vanilla Townie, eliminated Day 1
TheHoldSteady, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1

So youre saying that this is yours?

weirdly, no - I'm complex

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y'all have got everything I've got

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Night 1 was THS and night 2 was a holster this phase is going quite badly !

Why was this worth holding prior over other people’s claims?

I have a complex modifier. That means vanilla scum are less likely to fakeclaim in case they've been targeted.

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There is no chance you would have caught out anyone with that considering you already claimed complex.

Yeah agreed. Not catching anyone, adding pressure to scum during massclaim.

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If I was a complex vig in this game going into N1 I would have shot at a neighbor

That was my thought too. Can't speak for my pred's reasoning.

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idk if it helps but I forgot my NAs before double checking. I think the threat of a half-claimed complex mod is more valuable than my claim.

pedit: that is not correct but go off king

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can someone press FL's reset button pls,,

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so again I won't have much free time for another couple of irl days. am I hammered or close? I'll do some preliminary solving

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there is no evidence of an sk and my lim is silly. I have an awkward claim, and FL is on a warpath. That's all this is.

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when I am being wagoned for silly things, it's very easy to call everything "scummy [blank]". just keep checking your reads and keep looking for the scum after I flip green.

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Actually I just started an audiobook the other day, The Fountainhead.

34hrs of book

35 hours of pain. You've got this, good luck.

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I feel FL and Gamma is town core but I'd like more.

I don't trust every PR claim but the VTs seem more together. I feel like I'm just going to get betrayed no matter which way I slice it.

Gamma is probably town (particularly if FL is scum) but I do think her manoeuvring onto my wagon with p sketchy reasoning is like, noteworthy. I can see town doing it. It also makes me loathe to be confident in that read.

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I feel FL and Gamma is town core but I'd like more.

I don't trust every PR claim but the VTs seem more together. I feel like I'm just going to get betrayed no matter which way I slice it.

How is Gamma in any town core?

we readin the same game? talk to me abt this read

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If you're town, I believe your result. I just don't know that I think you're town in the grand scheme of things. There's far too much power and those who have it are too cagey.

Dave is my strongest townread

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Snivy doesnt look good with that comment on TW.

if you think the worst is SK then how did you come to this conclusion?

I went from sk to groupscum because I didn't react charismatically.

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We’re past the SK push

ok

well i dont think the worst is that scummy in regards to the push. as scum he would either be really relaxed or go guns blazing

and he did both of these

this i didnt notice, i got the vibe that he was a repeat of marci

?

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he had nothing on his claims, yet he was insisting on claiming at the end, which when he didn't know the rest of the game state, he couldn't claim his results without getting caught.

He was waiting to see if someone tracked or whatnot, or something, and they actively claimed targeting THS. They had to claim THS and they were covering for themselves earlier, but they wanted to wait to fully claim anything with the guise of 'putting more pressure on the others'. who were they putting pressure on? They also didnt even know who claimed or not.

And then they complete 180'd as soon as they got touched, used backwards incorrect meta, and tried to push me for being 'unconcerned about claims of Dave/TW' when the whole thing started from me being concerned about TW claim and lack of claim target and I had been actively trying to get a full claim from Dave multiple times this day phase.

So they made up reasons to try and push me to counter it, after them saying they had no plans to do the typical vig crosskill;.

At this point, anybody who thinks The Worst isn't scum is actively okay with TW vigging me here, because there's no way they don't with me pushing them, and then they'll claim it and go 'oh, they shouldn't have pushed me.'

No. The Worst is scum.

If we had a guilty on the THS kill we'd already know about it. That's silly.

You know the benefit of pressuring people not to fakeclaim and I'm not sure why you insist on being disingenuous to bury me unless you're literally scum who's worried I'll vig you tonight.

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You know the benefit of pressuring people not to fakeclaim

and you aren't dense enough to see why the pressure on you is better than the pressure on the rest of the claims.

you had already claimed you didn't plan to cross kill in Vig's earlier, no reason for me to come after you the way I did with where the game was going.

disengaging from you until you start reading what I'm saying bc this is boring and I have limited time.

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I have no idea what your alignment is and I have no idea why you're being an utter clown in this game. the two can answer each other, which is why I'm protesting your towncore status!!

I'm quite a good power role and trust myself to parse the claims and shoot well tonight. so outside of protest votes, there are no viable wagons. I'll vote anyone I don't townread.

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your case ignores all the grey areas in what I'm saying in favour of turboyeeting me so yeah, I'm going to dunk on it. I don't have another option.

this game kinda forces manipulative dialogue so if you quote an attempt at a persuasive post from me and call it manipulative I'm just gonna shrug. we're basically role-playing debates, town are manipulative all the time.

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respectfully, I've already done this and all you do is strip it back to repeat yourself. I've no interest in doing it again. go back and read like, the posts I have made since replacing in.

I'm not going to charisma my way through this you know my scumgame and it's just going to make your tunnel vision tighter.

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you pushed me for absolutely bad reason saying I was unconcerned with the claims when I had LITERALLY been asking Davesaz to full claim, and our thing started with me pressuring you and claiming.

This all started because I was concerned but you kept trying to find little new things to try and flip it on me and stall.

And if you are being manipulative, then I have every right to think you could be scum being Manipulative, and that my push on you is absolutely valid, yet you act like any case on you is a 'clown move' and you're just wrong on that, and town you should see that, but scum you has to defend against it.

Still haven't read the bulk of the game, what you're saying abt dave doesn't resonate with me at all sorry

have explained why I didn't claim targets at first like 5 times (if it helps I also did not remember them the first time)

you are clowning. I'm obligated to my role as a living player to point that out.

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I'm not like, arguing for or against it, I don't know what I'd be arguing for or against. I just think that's a lot of unambiguously clearing roles for a small game.

Relatable af but you are missing, badly, here.

pedit: your content is more diverse probably bc you've read the game, I'm kinda stuck with limited time and few choices but continuously asking people to do the smart because you're dunking on me. I'm not really able to use my town skillset very effectively here.

if you're town please go back over your case on me after I flip, because at its core it has relied on the assumption I'm already scum from the first moment

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yeeaah unfortunately not,,

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Dave is town

Gamma and pisskop are probably town, sprinkling of FL but he very much needs to die before endgame for all of the reasons

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Snivy is also town, fairly high confidence

gl

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Hood has 1-2 scum, FL is fairly high partner equity with Smiley bc bussing and leaning on the hood thing but I'm like on the fence abt whether he's actually scum.

bussing threat/partner equity is the main reason he needs to die

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he's also potentially clearable if town which is pretty cool. but I wouldn't give him that much free space if be can't clear himself.

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I haven't seen anything from hu tao like at all

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if dave claimed an inno on hu tao I'm not going to try and read hu tao. that's not a move dave makes on a partner, and I think dave is town anyway, so hu tao is town.

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I think I did know that btw sorry, haven't really thought about hu tao yet so wasn't at the top of my mind

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Hu Tao got inno’d by Dave and didn’t get killed by me.

I was trying to not disclose that

I realized that right after I said that.

My intuition is always to just give as much info as possible, which is a big reason why TW’s whole claim situation rubs me the wrong way

I withhold information exactly as long as I think it's useful. I don't regret keeping a question mark around a complex claim especially given my actual results so far are like, not it

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i'm town so i would suggest slapping together quite a good solve

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if I hadn't claimed complex there wouldn't have been any pressure

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I don’t think you were really pressuring anyone

I was trying to create a situation where it was harder for people to claim roles because there was unknown vanilla cop info out there. The fact the info was useless was something only I knew at the time.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself tbh

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how is that harder? you just have to claim PR as PR or vanilla as vanilla

because it stops vanilla scum from fakeclaiming a PR

I'm aware it's not life changing but it feels like a worthwhile use of information

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I'm curious why you think that but I'm also busy and this game has been headache inducing so (as harsh as it is) I'm really struggling to muster up the curiosity

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VOTE: gob


one sec

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Im not voting somebody on the grounds that theyre an sk.

y not? Isn't removing another night kill good for us?

Unless you are trying to bank on the SK killing mafia.

if I can hazard a guess: a caught sk can't afford to make anti-town kills bc they'll just be yeeted

I'm quite comfortable having my kills dictated despite the fact I am a vig, because I am not in a hurry with this game and will likely not be on top of it until towards the end of this phase. I get that's a bit annoying for sorting my alignment.

Hmmmmm.

Perhaps I can believe you, maybe if you prove your towniness to me in someway...

pisskop is mafia here.

I can see it but I think you'd need to accept that I'm a worthwhile pocket which would motivate pisskop enough to post that he doesn't just lurk and like idk

Scummy post.

If Hu Tao and Dave are partners, I can see Hu Tao coaching Dave out of it.

But that’s tinfoil for me right now

I can see that as well. (havent read any Hu Tao)

pisskop is mafia here.

I can see it but I think you'd need to accept that I'm a worthwhile pocket which would motivate pisskop enough to post that he doesn't just lurk and like idk

Very odd post where worst agrees with me then weirdly pushes me off for some rando logic.

this isn't gob's first instinct when talking to a partner. gob is much more straight forward than that.

I also don't think there's necessarily a dichotomy where gob/I seem likely to contain scum tbh

talk me through why gob=>worst makes sense fypov?



pedit: i don't know gob but I do think this is shading gob feels gob can get away with

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we can also policy gob for the ayn rand reference that's an option

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Especially since they go against the grain of the game.

flavor liar then flavor not

Names like 5 mafia throughout what appears to be a playbyplay read

No surprises the people he names as maf are the quickest to fos him.

P: perhaps? But why bother if scum?

PP: Rand is a hopeless romantic lol.

the people he foses as scum are vulnerable. I don't think his takes on FL have been against the grain tbh (I say that as someone with against the grain takes on FL )

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good game, well played scum

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nothing to be sorry for! it do be like that