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and what she did if she is town was not silly?

I think i know when it's town!silly and when mafia!silly.

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doesnt that fact that uve seen me fakeclaim as scum very recently (along with others in this game) make it extremely dumb to try and pull that shit again as scum?

Don't make these arguments they work against you lol.

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Haha NJAC didn't hit mason claim yet?

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I won't bother to protect sky further because it's kinda her guilt.

I am not voting here either. That's it.

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VOTE: gimli

ya i think im good sitting here a minute

what happened with your logic that gimli as mafia would claim something like mAiLmAn

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bah

VOTE: Bub Bidderskins

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It's like explaining why OMGUSing is scummy, except for fact "wiki told me so"

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why you sheep me

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I don't know what CKD claimed

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VOTE: Gimli

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I vote Gimli only because it's funny.

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VOTE: bob

Prob

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No

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I have nothing to add, but if you want to wagon someone else instead i am up for it.

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I have nothing to add, but if you want to wagon someone else instead i am up for it.

sorry if this has been answered but each post in this game feels like a year so i probably forgot

but who would you kill if given the choice

malcolm

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Yawn.

So uh well. I have no real ideas who to push, even malcolm is meh option for me now.

I am too ignorant is it?

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UNVOTE:

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wdm i just want to steal hammer

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VOTE: Bub

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hi i am traitor please don't shot me

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Mafia stopped fearing jailkeeper suddenly?

They know that if last mafia remains, jailkeeper starts to get guilties?

I don't understand it.

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Enchant, tell me who is scum.

KittyTacky and bub

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1. Save The Dragons/Town Mason
2. furtiveglance/Town Mason
3. Town Announcing Jailkeeper
4. Town
5. Town
6. Town
7. Town
8. Town
9. Town
10. Town
11. Town
12. Town
13. Town
14. Flavor Leaf/Vanilla Townie
15. Andante/Vanilla Townie

16. Mafia
17. Mafia
18. Bub Bidderskins/Mafia Informed Goon
19. kittyTacky/Mafia Bulletproof 1-Shot Follower

Right now assuming jailkeeper is Town.
Assuming 4 mafia but may be 5.
Announcing Jailkeeper targeted Mason N1 so it's confirmed to exist.
There should be some reason for mafia bulletproof to exist. Unless mod screwing with us.

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VOTE: Sheep

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What you owe Andante

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So you prefer to sheep Andante instead of mason who was already right?

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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh i am dumb

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I'm town reading Curious pretty heavily right now.

What do people think about Bub voting for Hu Tao FIVE different times? Like that makes me want to town read that slot too because, a random vote here or there seems fine, but to hop on/create a wagon against a teammate 5 times seems unlikely.

From the ISO of bub, I'd really like to see a Malcolm flip.

I've been town since day 1

You was town since day 1.

I was town since receiving role PM.

We are different.

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1. Save The Dragons/Town Mason
2. furtiveglance/Town Mason
3. Town Announcing Jailkeeper
4. Enchant/Town
5. Skygazer/Town
6. Town
7. Town
8. Town
9. Town
10. Town
11. Town
12. Town
13. Town
14. Flavor Leaf/Vanilla Townie
15. Andante/Vanilla Townie

16. Mafia
17. Mafia
18. Bub Bidderskins/Mafia Informed Goon
19. kittyTacky/Mafia Bulletproof 1-Shot Follower

GuyInFreezer - 1-Shot Bodyguard
NJAC - Loud PR

Bodyguard claim is shitty imo.

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I'd be up for massclaim if only because I feel like we're in a spot that a massclaim could make it close to impossible for us to lose.

We are not massclaiming with living jailkeeper.

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I'd be up for massclaim if only because I feel like we're in a spot that a massclaim could make it close to impossible for us to lose.

We are not massclaiming with living jailkeeper.

What if the remaining scum just claimed then?

no

More questions please?

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I don't care to know how you know about it neither anyone should ask

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i forgot

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game advancing content we deserve

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Guys i also don't care about this game because i didn't roll vigilante, so let's vote whatever furtive votes and end day already, no really

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Uh. Well. Sounds like something to put if you want two vigs in the game.
KittyTacky was 1-shot bulletproof thou.

Sky shot is strange, i mean by fact that it was blocked.

Unlikely to claim to draw real town PR, because vigs mostly counterclaim with bullet. So that's what mafia would want to claim without actual vig in the game.

I bet no one will confirm Protection or Roleblock. Even then, if there's protection, it would be on masons, not Sky.
So if it's truth, it's roleblock or sky being bulletproof. Issue, mafia already dropped one, and putting bp twice is meh.

I am sceptical, but let's go along i guess.

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Oh just noticed. Yeah, you are correct.

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I am not impressed with my attention span this game.

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With just one vig with one bullet, bulletproof and 1-Shot actually has no difference from power perspective.

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Issue that i buy claim.

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No i mean i am sceptical, but still, putting bulletproof as red herring is big meh. Let's just assume vig claim as true for time being. Even if not, real vig will shot here.

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If sheep is telling the truth, then Sky is almost confirmed scum.

Explain your reasoning

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Can you claim btw?

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I refuse.

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is there a reason you believe the claim?

I said i am not 100% believing claim, but eliming here is more likely than not will result in unfavorable result just by pure mech reasoning.

If it's town, we elim vig.
If it's mafia, well good we elim mafia, but why risk if real vig can shot here?

If there's no vig in the game, then bulletproof is red herring and i find likelyhood of it pretty slim.

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don't ..... on me

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There is mafia Informed flip, but it's not confirmed.

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There is mafia Informed flip, but it's not confirmed.

pretend like I dumb.

what does that mean? So scum knows something about the set up. what does "confirmed" mean in regards to being informed.

Informed gives additional info.
Not confirmed means we don't know what info it gives, because informed flips without info. Therefore informed CAN give information to mafia like "ah yes there's no vig but we gived you bulletproof anyway" but we have no way of knowing that for sure.

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wiki wasnt a huge help,

so the setup information they could have is that there is no vig? so the claim could be safe.

Correct

though it would need someone to say they blocked right?

Well techically you always can say that mafia roleblocked you. So it's more question of "Would mafia roleblock Sheep".

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NJAC unlikely roleblocker. Otherwise there would be Loud action on Sheep and it's kinda condemning.

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Of course rolestoppers/aliens and such on Sky also possibility.

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There's jailkeeper also who can't be NJAC for obvious reason.

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There's jailkeeper also who can't be NJAC for obvious reason.

Why not?

I probably missed why.

N1 jailkeepe was on mason while NJAC on someone else obviosly.

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I mean, it's already blatant you are PR, so what is your purpose? I doubt you are third protective, and if investigative, you would say so.

More over, you only used ability once at Night 1 and no one else claimed you visited them.


So what is it

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I completely missed that.

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I still don't see the point in asking NJAC to claim

Because i don't see NJAC claim as valuable enough to withhold.

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VOTE: Hu Tao

I forgot who you are

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we are not

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furtive abuses fact that he probably die next night so i can't really troll him for vig mislim

what a sneeky troll

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Damn NJAC making sense

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I hammer you at E-1.

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Claim malcom

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^scum

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... Ah. Hmm.

Two jailkeepers? And Bodyguard?

No i mean hm, but Hm.

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So. There was no night kill the night NJAC kept Venmar... Not sure why he wasn't gone ages ago.

VOTE: venmar

Do you give uncomplete evidence on purpose?

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n3 vig with two bodyguards and a fully bp scum doesnt make sense to me rn

VOTE: sheep

why you believe 1-shot bodyguard but not vig

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Hello all

That Malcolm vote looks even dumber in hindsight

Please tell.

You was jailkeept N1 right?

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Wait maybe we may blast venmar hold on

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If you think jailkeeper is town, then there's two same roles in town which is possible, but Would mod ALSO troll us with bulletproof existance (which ONLY has purpose as vig preventure or maybe rolecop guilty). Therefore voting vig makes even less sense.


If you think jailkeeper is mafia, then... Well Venmar was jailkeept N1.

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Hmmm Imma see what other people vote

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VOTE: Venmar

k

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I don't mind actually

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Why are people so against sheep? The cw was Malcolm yesterday, now it's Venmar...ppl making excuses

Why i should vote sheep

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Umm. If we aren't going venmar then I guess star

VOTE: Star

Why are you ignoring the 1 conftown

Look at me

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If we vote Sky, and they flip VT, does that confirm Sheep as scum?

no

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I am not voting sheep thanks

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Already revealed why.

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Honestly i know how bad it looks.

I am not sure self, but i think i should stand my ground this time.

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I am last not claimed?

Well i am not jailkeeper either. So Jailkeeper on Greeting is mafia.


Now: Would mafia use jailkeeper on Greeting AND skip kill? They obviously know who they jail.

So i think Venmar is mafia who was roleblocked N1 from performing kill.

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Unless uh mafia tried to kill Venmar N1.

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In considerance, it actually also weakens Skygazer.

Mafia has jailkeeper. ANNOUNCING one.

Who jailkeeper will protect without revealing self? Mafia teammates.

So yeah, i think we should win with Venmar>Skygazer>Sheep

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Of course if you want to sort 1vs1 between sky and sheep i am totally not opposed.

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Announcing jk would not target Mason if they were scum. Please be serious

Unless they wanted to fakeclaim town jailkeeper but got caught in actual jailkeep.

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I guess the announcing JK could be town who fakeclaimed VT to stay hidden

While doing nothing.

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furtive your call

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furtive your call

You know what my call is

Urgh.

Fine.

VOTE: Sheep

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im fine w either but im going to get nasty with the AtE if sheep flips town

If sheep flips mafia i will be incredible mad on myself

If sheep flips town i will be incredible mad on furtive and he will be long dead so no "haha told you so"


I fucking lost in every possibility.

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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

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also if no one claims announcing JK today, I'm going to assume Venmar is town

why is that

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also if no one claims announcing JK today, I'm going to assume Venmar is town

why is that

He was jailkept by NJAC N1 and therefore couldn't have visited Greeting

Makes sense actually.

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They already killed full JK why they should fear another one.

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yes

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i got announcing jailkept btw

why

am i clear yet

no

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when you was jailkept? Last night?

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You know what i give up, all what i say this game is harmful for town somehow so yeah fuck me, jailkeeper may be town, furtive save us again.

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i guess furtive can be town since this supposed announcing jailkeeper actually exists

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Venmar are you jail keeper y/n?

Venmar was jailkeept N1 and jailkeeper jailed Greeting.

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For me Hu Tao is clear Jailkeeper.

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also if no one claims announcing JK today, I'm going to assume Venmar is town

why is that

He was jailkept by NJAC N1 and therefore couldn't have visited Greeting

Makes sense actually.

Only 1 scum usually has to do the kill though, surely it could have been a teammate and Venmar still be scum?

If we assumed Jailkeeper was mafia then said jailkeeper could't be Venmar.

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Here's an open question to everyone to spark some discussion:

Who was least happy to kill sheep 2 days ago when Malcolm was eliminated instead?

Me.

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Strongman applies to nightkill not target.

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For me Hu Tao is clear Jailkeeper.

I hardclaim VT

This is scummy

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VOTE: Doctor Drew

Nothing to add really

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VOTE: Venmar

Blood

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Also it's confirmed there's 4 mafia.

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Why not claim traffic analyst

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Time for my favorite image

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Didn't put neighborizer in game.

-REP