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Hi guys, replacing Haschel. Cathing up.

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Hi guys, I have totally and absolutely forgotten that I was in this game, sorry.

Will post my thoughts within the next 2 days.

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So yeah, I've read the game and here is what I think: armlx is so scum.

Why?

Because the NK's that have been consistent N1 and N2 come from someone with big meta knowledge and good scumhunting skill. armlx fits the profile.

Because armlx game here doesn't read like blue nor does it read like vanilla. He is kind of always trailing behind and unfocused in his questions.

I expect to be attacked to death here for the extravagant approach, so here some more fodder for you: I was halfway tempted to suggest no-lynch and let scum squabble between themselves given that they seem pretty good at scumhunting .

Anyway

vote:armlx

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Hi armlx, how are you?

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I have limited time to devote to mafia right now and for the next week and will probably give my attention to games I'm more engaged in. If that is unsatisfactory, I should be replaced.

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Hi, I'm here. I'm being terrible and getting prodded everywhere. Worst is I have a VLA coming up dec 20 to janv 2.

Posting better later.

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Alright.

Now, I'm inclined to disbelieve EA as a vig. It's hard to tell from N2 and 3, but Ooba's kill is very suspect, Ooba hasn't been overly scummy that I can see when he was around, but he can be great town and makes for a decent scumkill. Plus, it's always dangerous to try to meta mods, but I'd say that Dead Rikimaru would sooner put two SK's in a game than two vigs. It would have been different if EA had claimed compulsive but he didn't.

That said, I think it' better to let EA go to night and let the vigs/SK's work it out between themselves.

I think Jebus is unlikely to be scum, the only way I could conceive it is Jebus being mafia blue with BA but that's a bit too paranoid I think. Nonetheless I think the gambit on blakkader is crap, if BA is scum but just didn't commit the kill Jebus said he did, I wouldn't imagine he would have reacted differently.

Personally I don't like the case on Niv, I don't figure Seraphim as one who'd replace out just because of a bit of pressure.

Giving that, I'd rather go with BA.

Unvote, Vote BA

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You know, if BA *is* the last Japanese scum, we will have seen quite the number of self-serving scummy votes leading up to his lynch.

Of interest. Please explain very clearly what you mean to imply with this post.
I may or may not hold it against you.

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Hi, happy new year everybody.

I believe Llama's claim, it kinda fits DeadRikimaru I think. Though EA can't be jap because of N2 claimed kill. Unless EA claimed kills that aren't his own, which makes no sense. Another alternative is Llama greek with EA. But that's too big a machination I think. Which makes EA probably vig.
Here thought I have to raise the possibility of a compulsive killer with shifting alignment as seen in Darkstalkers mafia. I just don't like the ooba kill.

I don't like massive.

You know, if BA *is* the last Japanese scum, we will have seen quite the number of self-serving scummy votes leading up to his lynch.

The above is queer. Note the emphasis on *is*, it makes no sense. What is implied here is that greek would be more interested in lynching jap. In itself that is a reasoning I can see, only this reasoning is independent of whether BA turns up Jap or not, because presumably greek can't know who's jap or not, unless in case of mafiacop knowledge of which would be suspicious.

I'm not explaining this very well but I hope you get my point: there is something that doesn't fit in massive's reasoning. And my guess is that it is a scumslip and that massive is prolly greek himself and that he is distancing from an action that could be perceived as greek hence the faulty reasoning.

Also, I think it makes little difference lynching jap or greek right now as both present its advantage. Lynching jap get rid of a scumgroup, lynching greek eliminate possibility of overnight scumwin. SK should claim and win with the town.

I'm open to lynch BA or massive.

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I'm still sold on BA scum. My alternative would be massive.

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I'm still sold on BA scum. My alternative would be massive.

Why?

Why what? My opinion on your reason to think that BA is town is that it relies on appeal to emotion and outguessing how far scum can go to make themselves look town. IMO looking town is the easiest part of the scum job, especially in a situation like facing what is most probably a crap town gambit.

You see, if scum catch anyone lying about a result in a multi scum group game, what do you think their reaction would be?

I think it would be that they've caught scum. Which make faking outrage all the more easy.

Then observe how BA has ignored the game this entire day, leaving his vote on Jebus on the ground that he caught her in a lie, but now is switching his vote on me out of nowhere. I see no reason why his evaluation of Jebus would change now if he were town.

@Lama. I've read SG as town all day and don't see quite where this is going. The only thing that I haven't liked is her saying that you are exaggerating her suspicion. Imo, town pretty much never argue that they are less suspicious of someone then it appears. But I still think BA and massive are scummier.

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I read her as town, and that is.

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Frankly, I don't remember, but I think it was her entrance in this game that struck me as town.

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Hi.

I glanced at a couple isolations. I believe EA's claim, when I was reading through it (because I knew the kills) I thought maybe he vigged Ooba...Then he claim vig on Ooba.

Vote Spring

Lurking, seen her lurk as scum.

Also glanced at SG's, but was far too long to make much of.

I don't remember ever being in a game in which I was scum with you.

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Also, I pledge to hammer massive if he is ever put at L-1. I don't like his return to the game after quitting.

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Also, happy scumday to me.

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Oh woe is me.

Also, ouch that gif

hurt

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Nice game.

I think scum could have done better if they hadn't been so keen on killing each others.