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Gah this is tougher than I thought
I'm going to try read to read the thread backwards instead after losing focus ~15
Initial thoughts,
SpyreX active early [good] but much of it was meta discussion
SpyreX sometimes thinks someone town when they hardly even posted e.g. manito, gimbo!?
shadowgirl is lurktastic d1, makes a small comment on FL, but doesn't even give an opinion [scummy, yet typical of SG]-
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Armlx: I can see where he's coming from with most of his points and can follow his line of thought. Not really any scum tells to point out. He hasn't really given me a warm townie feeling, though, so I'll have to lean neutral/town on him.
Joubert/ThAdmiral: Joubert didn't post too much. He brought up a good point about the forbiddan wagon. ThAdmiral hasn't posted too much either. Some more posts/opinions would be nice. Neutral.
Killa 7:
Inconsistent vote here.killa 7 wrote:vote forbiddanlight
please dont vote yourself and hunt scum thanks.
The term "scumbag" seems to be tossed out arbitrarily here, seemingly without killa 7 having suspicions of orange.killa 7 wrote:great the new guy joined the best wagon to avoid conflict Sad
your willin to join to avoid conflict, great nice vote scumbag.
Overall, killa 7 is hard to read because of his posting style. Neutral/scum.
SpyreX:
Don't like this type of post, but more importantly, it assumes that the actions so far are down by scummy townies, and not scum.SpyreX wrote:Good lord town, are we going to be this scummy out of the gate?
Inconsistent POV.SpyreX wrote: Now I have no idea. Selfvoting when most people haven't even voted for you doesn't make any sense and you're just hurting the town. Take a step back, look at the game as a whole.
I can't see doing this as a town at this point but I sure cant see why a scum woudl either
Not sure how he could arrive at this conclusion when manito's hardly posted.SpyreX wrote:I think manito is town as this point, BUT (bolded added for emphasis):
Same. This post is about gimbo btw.SpyreX wrote:I, still, think he's town but lord the gameplay has went down since the lynch.
Sets up future suspicions.SpyreX wrote:All in all, I dont like the way its went down. If we're wrong about forbid, there's definitely going to be some eyes that way.
Contradicts his use of meta in his analysis:SpyreX wrote:Want a meta? Sure. Here's my meta: Meta's are retarded.
Plus, I don't agree with his stance on meta. I'm not sure if he rejects the use of meta in every game he plays. This has a sinister side in that it could be a good way to get people with scummy metas lynched.SpyreX wrote:Now, I honestly haven't played enough to get a good read on Gimbo, but from what I HAVE played with him I would not be surprised at all if, as town, he came in and saw he got to hammer and did it.
Inconsistent. Shortly earlier, he called killa a lurker lynch.SpyreX wrote:K7's play has been unhelpful and his comments have been, well, scummy.
Another inconsistency.SpyreX wrote:See my problem. I, this game, dont find Corin to be scummy. However, I find FaerieLord and K7 to be - and both of them have had at least one person defend the actions based on "meta". Thats ridiculous and encourages bad play.
His increasing of killa each time "scumminess" seems kinda mechanical. Just doesn't feel right to me. Also, see above contradictions.SpyreX wrote:3.) Killer 7 - Scummy as all getout, yet a "random" lynch at best. Reason: Scummy is his meta.
Scummy. I'm a fan of humorous hammers too, but as town I would not be comfortable hammering like that without being resolute in my decision.SpyreX wrote: STOP
Hammertime!
Unvote, Vote: KoC
Not a fan of how he repeatedly uses OMGUS to dismiss entire cases.SpyreX wrote:Hell, most of your case on me is assumptions flavored with delicious OMGUS and you're doing it again.
Not sure what you're saying here.SpyreX wrote:Sad : Manito
Well, I think having that sad face and highlighting a couple bits of manito's play must mean something. What do you have to say about Manito?SpyreX wrote:I am NOT saying ANYTHING about the cases on either Manito or LlamaFluff.
Overall, plenty of inconsistensies to go around.Vote: SpyreX
Gimbo/Llamafluff: Gimbo didn't do anything of note.
Anyways, I'm looking at LF's posts in isolation now, and let's just say I'll do the rest later.-
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Better be! That said, though, this feels like an attempt to throw me off your trail.SpyreX wrote:Net, I like what you're doin. I hope you continue.
Still strange, though, since the normal course of action would be to attack such scummy actions.
Ohh, it could have been a mix of both. The "we" in that case refered to the game as a whole - I HATE it when its hard to pickup on scummy behavior because everyone decides to be scummy.Don't like this type of post, but more importantly, it assumes that the actions so far are down by scummy townies, and not scum.
For forbiddan to hurt the town ("you're just hurting the town") with a self vote, she would have to be town. Thus, it's inconsistent with thinking her scum.
I'm not seeing the inconsistency.Inconsistent POV.
Sometimes, scum may arbitrarily decide someone town before enough content has been posted. I usually check whether the conclusion (player x is town) follows or not.
I thought he was town - although I will explain more why this is a BAD IDEA on my part and I am sorry about it in retrospect. I'm still not sure what you're aimin for - it is simply a gut feeling.Same. This post is about gimbo btw.
Also, I'm curious why it is a bad idea now.
If killa's comments were scummy, it would be strange to think his lynch a lurker lynch.
With full context, I hope it makes a little more sense. K7's comments have been scummy. However, the one actual thing he did I didn't find scummy - so I felt it was being PUSHED as a lurker lynch. In a last minute scramble the fact he'd been kinda scummy makes it far superior to a no-lynch.Inconsistent. Shortly earlier, he called killa a lurker lynch.
Odd comment to make.I'm not OMGUSin' this. Although, I'll admit if I dont see this level of detail on other suspects I'd be a little tempted.
Strange substitute.I'm still not sold on him being scum, but that exchange and the points above is . Hence, the .
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The problem with this comment is that it is preemptive. By hinting that I should conform to a certain mold before it actually occurs, it comes off as being manipulative.SpyreX wrote:Not really - if I dont see this level of analysis on other players as you come in I'll question the intergity of your analysis as a whole - which would make me wonder if it was scummy by nature.-
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Ok, first, some add-ons to other cases:
Another use of meta.SpyreX wrote:I still have a small FoS on killa, but having played a game with him I could see his explanation as him doing that as town.
LlamaFluff: I'll have to look through his posts again after I'm done this since his posts are long but nothing in particular stuck out to me. He clearly indicates who his suspects are from the beginning so this is good. Plus, I like his case on manito. Neutral/town.
TSPN: Not too many posts, but I'm going to go with a town read with him. Mostly because he complains about the k7's playstyle which I agree with and it seems geniune. Town/neutral.
Dcorbe/OP: Dcorbe left a good early game impression. OP seems ok. Sorry, I'm getting lazy because manito is next... Neutral/town.
Manito:
Odd.I'm not keen on changing my random vote until more scumminess is demonstrated unequivocally...
Calls forbiddan a liar and no vote?I'm with Armlx on this one, and to quote the old addage - LAL.
This post explains his LAL post. Explanation does not match what he was saying earlier.That's exactly what I'm saying, and exactly what he said - he said he was only voting for himself in order to "get the scum to come out" - it's poor play to lie unless you're mafia - when you're town the best weapon you have is the truth, so the biggest question on my mind is why pull a stunt like this as town, it serves no benefit.
"Fishy as hell" and still no vote.I couldn't agree more with this post. They are both fishy as hell...
I think Llamafluff explained why this post was scummy so consult that. I'll find and requote it later if necessary (for the lazy). To summarize, these questions contradict his previous stances.forbiddanlight, I can see your point when you say the primary focus at the moment seems to be on how you're defending yourself based off the attacks currently being made against you, and that no one is focusing on the whole reason and wrongness/rightness of why you were attacked in the first place. While I don't want to necessarily detract from the current discussion, what we should be ultimately looking at here, folks, is whether her attempts to (as she puts it) oust or rile a mafia into attacking her were one of two things:
(1) was it successful in revealing mafia?
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(2) whether was it a (a)scum tactic to throw suspicion off a partner, or a (b)town tactic to incite action from scum - was the action itself too questionable in execution to exclude part (a)?
Again, LF explains why this is scummy so consult that. Basically, he doesn't post too much, but once he gets questioned he launches large pbp posts.Sorry about the long post, someone finally gave me a reason to expound a little more...
Irrelevant factor that he treats as a scum tell. Seems like scum using everything he can find.So you're on your second post, a new replacement in the game, trying to run in and tell everyone what to do and how to think? Giving advice to people to NOT give advice? Who died and made you king?
No idea where you got the town feel. He's been scummy, and his only saving grace is his meta. Also the overall analysis ignores the portion where you called him "fishy as hell."Generally speaking I get a town feel, but the "tough love" could be a cover for more sinister motives. 55/45 town/scum on k7.
Being the 3rd option on a LoS is vote-worthy. It's part of the love and care that goes into making those lists, or else there's no reason to have a 3 person list of suspicion set in stone yet.Because K7 was at the bottom of my list?
The expected response here would be to point out why not being on a town lynch is not scummy. Pointing out d2 and d5 shows a desire to prove oneself.I haven't been on a lynch at all? Did you two miss D2.5?
Again this is really inconsistent.Do you not remember WHY K7 was on my "list"? He was on my list because I didn't have anyone else who was particularly scummy at that point, so K7 AND Joubert were both my #2 suspects merely for being lurkers.
Scum read on Manito. I'll do SC later, but I re-read killa and have some more points I want to point out later too. And even though I haven't posted my analysis of SC yet, I don't recall anything in particular from him in my thread read through, so I'm going to go ahead and say thatManito, SpyreX, and killa7are the scum and I'll be willing to vote any of those 3.-
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Long post about lack of internet is access = scummy, when a simple comment will do.Manito wrote:Yeah, when you're a renter, you usually give 30 days (4 weeks) notice so you don't get charged fees at move-out Smile Notice was given on the 8th of October. My last day of work at the store I am currently at is tomorrow, then I have Friday - Wednesday to get moved in and situated, as well as getting the place I'm moving out of clean. We've been packing pretty hard the last week or so, which is why I've been much more quiet unfortunately. I've barely touched the computer except to quickly read/check for new posts/developments. I'll try to check regularly the next few days but I'll be moving the computer at the same time. If my internet isn't set up fast at the new place, our good friends (right next door) will I'm sure let me use their computer to check on stuff.-
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