Open 80 - Double Day Mafia (Game Over!)

[ThAdmiral]

Hello all.

I'll attempt to read up while not just disappearing and not posting for a few days. Could someone write me up some sort of summary as well.

[ThAdmiral]

Thoughts on day 1 and lynch:
Thought this day got a bit sidetracked on the forbiddanlight issue. This was partly her own fault as she should know that anyone who puts their hand up to be noticed day 1 will most likely be lynched, however there were definitely some opportunistic votes on the wagon and towards the end it became somewhat of a witch hunt where everything forbiddanlight said was only used as further reason to lynch him. Armlx and knight of cydonia were probably the worst in this, and cf riot really didn't provide good reasoning for his vote. Spyrex did provide good reasoning, but this was also a bad thing as it lead to many others quoting him as reasons to vote fl.

Thoughts on day 1.5 and lynch:
I usually don't like meta used as a way to distinguish whether someone is scum or not, and I didn't like it here, although corinthian sort of dug himself into a hole with his defensiveness and hasty jump on to the opposing wagon. I thought sweatpantsninja was a bit opportunistic with his vote, and didn't provide good reasoning, while faerilord didn't provide any reasoning at all (for the vote that turned out to be the deciding one).

Will get on to day two later.

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Thoughts on day 2 and lynch:
I don't like cf-riot's "deal" that he makes with spyrex to go after firestarter, nor do I like spyex going along with it. And funnily enough I like it even less when spyrex switches right at the end to hammer Knight of cydonia. It also seems like armlx always gets himself on the lynch wagon, or thereabouts (on day 1.5 he was on killa 7 which came very close to a lynch).

Thoughts on day 2.5 and lynch:
Spyrex and armlx put heat on firestarter early, and orange penguin looks really scummy with his vote switching and his joke about bussing. Once again spyrex makes a good case on someone, and once again this is a bad thing as people then simply quote it as a reason to vote and another townie is lynched.

It is uncanny how spyrex and armlx always vote he same person. In fact they were voting the same person just a page ago (until spyrex changed to sc).

fos: spyrex

vote: armlx

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orange penguin looks really scummy with his vote switching and his joke about bussing.

I made a joke about bussing? Quote please! I believe you, I really do (that I made a joke), but I have no idea what you're talking about, going off of memory. A quote would help.

Let's "win the game" then.

unvote

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vote: firestarter

. I'm not good at building cases. I'm not going to try to be. If Firestarter is going to be the scummy player lynched today, then I am going to vote him. If this turns out to be another mislynch, I'm done listening to the majority. I'm just going to go by my gut in that case, and THEN, and only then, will I bother to make a case. I'm not going to go through a million pages to present a case only maybe 3 or 4 people will read, most of them disagreeing with it, and voting me because of it.

And yes, I am vote hopping, if you want to call it that. Add that to your list.

And since I'm FS's supposed partner (how?), I guess I am "bussing" too.

This post seems bad for a number of reasons; for example it sounds like you are trying not to accept responsibility for a firestarter lynch while being on the lynch at the same time.
The bussing line rubs me the wrong way as well. For some reason I get the impression from it that you are scum and are having a laugh to yourself that people had suggested you might be partners with firestarter (a town). By voting firestarter it allowed you to kill two birds with one stone as you were able to debunk the theory about you being partners as well as being able to vote a townie basically guilt free.

Why armlx over SpyreX?

My main argument against spyrex is that he has made good cases that have lead to townie lynches.
On the other hand Armlx has often not even provided reasoning for his vote.

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Eh, I just said that cause I was really annoyed how I was being partnered up to FS when I barely interracted with him the entire game, before then, so I found it weird and contrived. It wasn't a joke, just a sarcasticly annoyed eyeroll. The tongue smiley was just mocking the ridiculousness of it. I guess I see what you're getting at though, even though your assumptions are dead wrong. *shrug*

Probably. I just remember it striking me as scummy the first time I read it.

[ThAdmiral]

Nah you're ok strangercoug.

[ThAdmiral]

So....

Your 3 comments come out to 2 that are straight up info, no analysis, and one that means nothing?

Protective much? (of spyrex...)

@Thad - Have you read through day 3 yet and if so thoughts? Also, apart from armlx and Spyrex, who do you find suspicious

Yes I'm fully read up. I don't buy the case on strangercoug and the early faerilord wagon was pretty dodgy as he wasn't around to defend himself.
As far as suspects I think two is enough for now, although I did mention orange penguin as well in my analysis posts which are a few back.

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Since no one is interested in an armlx lynch, and since netlava

is

interested in a spyrex lynch...

unvote, vote: spyrex

[ThAdmiral]

Armlx and spyrex are such obvious scumbuddies.

I'll be away for the next two days. Catch ya later.

[ThAdmiral]

This case is less convincing than your other ones and is just as likely to lead us to another town lynch.
It's little more than a witch hunt.

You should definitely be the lynch for today.

[ThAdmiral]

If, through some fluke of nature, he is town then I will hand myself up tomorrow!

I'm definitely going to call you on that if it happens.

[ThAdmiral]

This case is less convincing than your other ones and is just as likely to lead us to another town lynch.

Why thAd? Don't just say shit and not back it up.

I don't want to get caught in a "Massively Long Post War"

^tm

If he's wrong he dies tomorrow. So much more simple and elegant.

[ThAdmiral]

Instead of lynching SC, I am going to

unvote, vote Spyrex

Well done op!

unvote, vote StrangerCoug

You suck LF!

[ThAdmiral]

@ spyrex: had a feeling you might pull something like this.

Too bad.

vote: spyrex

Him today, armlx tomorrow and we can get this game right back on track.

[ThAdmiral]

Spyrex: you have lead this town to mislynches three times, have consistently been on town wagons, and now are trying to weasel out of your deal from yesterday.

Die you lying scum.

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In any normal game I would probably be pushing for killa 7 instead of spyrex, but I think spyrex's large and incorrect cases that basically served only to distract/derail the town are one of the main reasons killa 7 hasn't been lynched yet. He's definately one I will be looking at tomorrow. Although I'm more likely to go after armlx.

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I'll get on the lynch k7 but only if you still agree to hammer yourself tomorrow spyrex.

[ThAdmiral]

Hey idiots: if spyrex was town the mafia could have easily pushed his wagon to the fourth required vote. After all he has done you can't seriously be thinking of letting him off the hook.

[ThAdmiral]

You would say that because you are also scum.

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I didn't bother making a case yesterday as I assumed spyrex was going to be lynched if he was wrong or left alive if he wasn't, which I was happy with.
In the end he was wrong, but certain members of the playing group didn't follow through with the "plan". Sort of makes him wagering his life on the fact he was right a bit hollow doesn't it?

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@ spyrex: that's absolute strawmanning. Did you even read the rest of what he had to say.

I think the only chance of getting you lynched is if sweatpantsninja or killa7 comes back/gets replaced. Please god let this happen.

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You pick a suspect and push their lynch.

Even if you think you might be wrong?

I don't think Spyrex is strawmanning (even though I don't really know exactly what that means)

Strawmanning is where you pick the one part of a case against you that you can argue against or point out a flaw in and ignore/dismiss the rest.
So, yeah he is.

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You pick a suspect and push their lynch.

Even if you think you might be wrong?

How often have you called every other player but one (manito thanks to that last post) scum in a F9? On top of that voted four of them?

I can see changing your mind but when everyone is scum that just seems like a want to just get a lynch.

I think you're getting me and op confused.

[ThAdmiral]

Replacements could save this game.

I think it is anti-town of the mod to not be replacing people!

[ThAdmiral]

you could probably swing a you lynch...

[ThAdmiral]

well that gives us about 15 days so I'm quietly confident we'll find two replacements.

[ThAdmiral]

I also have no problems with former townies replacing back in. As an added bonus they have to read less as well.

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Get in cf riot!!!

See I told ya we would get replacements. Oh ye of little faith...

[ThAdmiral]

Will people finally listen to me today?

I know cf riot has, good man.

vote: spyrex

[ThAdmiral]

Spyrex: I'm as surprised you are town, as you are that I'm town.

I don't believe how well the scum played. Well done. Once again proves that doing hardly anything at all can be the best strategy!

[ThAdmiral]

I don't believe how well the scum played. Well done. Once again proves that doing hardly anything at all can be the best strategy!

Hey now... I did a hell of a lot in this game I thought

True actually. The others hung in the background quite effectively though.

Would that be your best game? It certainly seems hard to top.