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[Empking]

Vote; Shadowgirl

Voting using dice tages = scum.

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Unvote

Time to stop the randomness stuff now?

No, just no.

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I think Tajo was worse.

Vote: Tajo

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@Stef: I already mentioned, everything that I think has already been said. But, overall, populartajo's vote on Sierra and bad defense of you are the reason he's scummy. Personally, you would not be that suspicious yourself if he had not tried to rush to your defense.
So,

vote: populartajo

. Since your scumminess relies on the assumption that you and tajo are partners, you'll be partially cleared if tajo flips town.

Partially cleared?
I can see how you'd say he's no scummier than anyone else but how would bhe be partially cleared?

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You misunderstand the question, I think. How would he be at all cleared?

Because the only reason I am suspicious of him is because of the potential connection to tajo. If tajo flips town, then that is gone.

Yeah, we've got different definations of cleared.

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wow, been playing this game for over a year...never heard the term chainsawing..please define.

Chainsawing: Attacking a player (BlakAdder) in a manner that discourages their attack on a third player (populartajo).
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I'd like to say, that's basicly how I've heard it used.

So Pop, you did not only claim vanilla townie early you want use to believe your town and false claimed vanilla townie.

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CKD: I can't believe you hammered before giving us time to evaluate his claim.

I wasn't going to unvote but I'd like the chance.

Also you should never claim vanilla apart from in mass claim.

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The cult leader was killed night 1. Woot!!!

I think I need to read day 1 again.

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Vote: CKD

Far too quick hammer.

FoS: BA

for the reasons given above.

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I can see how BA made a mistake.

I can't see how you could've made a mistake.

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The same thing I picked up on the first time and the first time I talked to BA.

He was trying to partially clear someone when he shouldn't.

You hammered too early

No it doesn't. Plus you didn't FoS me just one of my statements.

I don't see an implication in that quote.

Too early is not giving people time to react.

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Empking: and the killing of a mafia goon wasn't a good thing?

I'd like to look closer at the BlakAdder case, as it does seem promissing.

Not as good as hitting a cult leader.

I haven't seen a townie hammer to early and I think I recall a scum hammer too early.

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I felt I had to answer the quote I gave and wrote the answers to your questions I remembered.

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@Stef: I already mentioned, everything that I think has already been said. But, overall, populartajo's vote on Sierra and bad defense of you are the reason he's scummy. Personally, you would not be that suspicious yourself if he had not tried to rush to your defense.
So,

vote: populartajo

. Since your scumminess relies on the assumption that you and tajo are partners, you'll be partially cleared if tajo flips town.

Trying to clear a (now) confirmed scum.

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Their's nothing wrong with your case, I just think you're scummier.

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I think I've already answered your question or at least the first question.

How have I been defending BA?

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I think B.

I'm not going to go point to point through any post until I find something that I disagree with.

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Yeah, basically.

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He's asked for a case?

Quotes please.

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He's asked for a case?

Quotes please.

How is it townie play for you to be this difficult? We all need you to answer his questions in order to clear suspicion of you. If you were town, you woudln't hesitate because you would know that we really need to be focusing on real scum rather than you. I fyou are scum, you either have somethign to hide or can't answer the questions. Please stop being difficult.

Hypocrite much?

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He's asked for a case?

Quotes please.

We both quoted it.

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He's asked for a case?
Quotes please.

How is it townie play for you to be this difficult? We all need you to answer his questions in order to clear suspicion of you. If you were town, you woudln't hesitate because you would know that we really need to be focusing on real scum rather than you. I fyou are scum, you either have somethign to hide or can't answer the questions. Please stop being difficult.

Stop trying to throw your weight around. If you corner anyone like this, townie or scum, they are going to look suspicious. You might as well leave it alone now because it has turned into a question of pride between you two which neither of you are going to budge from your current standpoints. This kind of arguing is only a distraction

Are you saying I'm fat??
Really, what "weight" am I trying to throw around? it's not like I've been in the limelight during this game. I'm simply asking someone else to stop avoiding questions. Emp cornered himself by NOT ASNWERING QUESTIONS. I found CKD's points valid, and would like to see the answers... simple as that. I didn't immediatly vote Emp or anything, I'm just asking for simple answers, Emp is the one who is turning this into a bigger deal than it should be by

refusing

to answer.

I love how you've yet to answer my question to you.

English is my first language.

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What took you so long to answer them?

So basicly half your argument was wrong?

He hasn't asked for confirmation in ages.

CKD: Yes your the best person for me to vote on.

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If their's nothing scummier then I'd follow your case.

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No in fact:

You lied, I asked a reasonable question and tried to be reasonable.

How is it OMGUS? I want proof.

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What question did Empking dodge? I don't see it.

Its the one in CKD's and Sekinj's heads.

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Yeah, I might rethink my vote once we hear from BA again.

I want him to post.

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If anyone was too lazy to read all of it, the short version is:
CKD assked questions.
Empking answered some of the questions.
CKD, repeated the questions he didn't answer.
Empking answers all the questions.
CKD is too lazy to read Empking's post and still moans about not answering all the questions.

CKD, what do you mean by "interaction"?

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W
As for Emp and EA's "case", I don't think it holds any weight at all.
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You don't think quicklynching a claimed Doc is scummy?

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Votes leading up to L-1 don't take away the rest of the town's chance to react and unvote.

So you don't think mentioning that he was trying to clear someone (who we now know is scum) is interacting?

Also, did you think Pop was scum?

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In what way?

CKD: Yes or no. Did you think Pop was scum?

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Didn't have time to believe the claim.

An observation:

If you thought he was scum, you would want to see how scum reacted to his claim.

You hammered before giving scum time to react therefore you must not wanted to see how scum reacted to his claim.

Therefore you didn't believe Pop was scum.

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I answered.

"Didn't have time to believe the claim."

I read backwards through the thread first BTW.

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HOW COULD I BELEIVE THE CLAIM WHEN I HAD READ THE MOD'S POST.

Why does your mum hate you?

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Yes. Like I said before.

I love how you dodged the question.

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Why does your mum hate you?

I couldn't because I read the mod post. (Third time answering)

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Why does your mum hate you?

I made a mistake. No, I didn't then.

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Why does your mum hate you? (Fourth time asking.)

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Its not insulting. Its seeing how long you'll dodge the question.

I know. I made a mistake.

Why does your mum hate you?

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Why does your mum hate you?

I wasn't afraid to answer the question.

What is the scum motivation for the lie.

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What is the scum motivation for the lie?

I did nopt call anyone Scum in real life.

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I didn't insult anyones mother either.

Jebus, you're voting me. I'll repeat the question.

Why would scum do that lie.

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Why would scum do that lie?

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Why would scum do that lie?

(Apart from Tar, that's the basis of your case. You'd think you'd have an answer for it.)

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I refused to answer? When?

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So I didn't refuse to answer.

This you won't answer my other question. Why do you like like broccoli flavoured ice cream?

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Yet, you're completely unable to include quotes.

I think I've worked out the the problem. CKD, you refusing to acknowledge my answers is not the same as me not answering them.

Why do you like like broccoli flavoured ice cream?

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I don't avoid question. That description goes to you.

Why do you like like broccoli flavoured ice cream?

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Other than Tar,

Nobody

has any logic that they're able to back up by quotes.

L-2 isn't some magical number where you're forced to abandon all logic.

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Ah, you're operating off a false impression of mafia norms. You're very wrong.

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I'm not going to claim.

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Is lock on vote?

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Remember hammerer.

I'll turn up town and you'll have to deal with people asking why you hammered with no reasons.

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if he IS a jester, he played a good game....if he is town, i will never join another game with him.

given his lie, avoided questions, and backtrack...his avoidance of the BA case and bullshit attack on me, I am sure he is scum.

Yet you can't provide quotes. Weird.

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If it was half the game, I would've been lynched.