Mafia 83 - Game Ended Scum Win!
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hasdgfas Jack of All Trades
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BM, why do you have to act like scum?Battle Mage wrote:He's at -3 now. I think we can afford another vote before people start getting fidgety.
BMjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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If by 'run up' you mean bandwagon, then you're right. If you mean 'run up' as in lynch, yes it is. And it's how you're doing it, not what you're doing.Battle Mage wrote:
It's not scummy to run players up in the random stage.hasdgfas wrote:
BM, why do you have to act like scum?Battle Mage wrote:He's at -3 now. I think we can afford another vote before people start getting fidgety.
BMFoS: COWjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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It's a wonderful way to start discussionReclusion wrote:@Battle Mage:You didn't really answer my questions. I never said that I have an issue with random bandwagons; in fact, I'm actuallyonand pretty muchbeganthe wagon that you're attempting to drive. The thing I'm taking issue with is the fact that you mentioned that you actually want killa seven to claim. Why would you want someone to claim a role this early in the game?
He's a chronic lurker, that's how.Reclusion wrote:And itistoo early to classify someone as a lurker. This game just began yesterday. How could someone possibly be considered a lurker after a day's worth of content?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?alvinz95 wrote:
No reason. Random.hasdgfas wrote:unvote, vote alvinz
Any reason for voting BM?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Could you explain where you see that post as saying Jebus knows how many scum there are?Reclusion wrote:
That's fine. I just wanted to get a feel for what types of tells you were using this early on to generate your reads.Jebus wrote:Which part?
BM just strikes me as a mobster, you seem a little anxious, and Yaw a little rambunctious. Why I'm not sure alvinz is mafia-ish, is because he seems like a nervous townie.
Again, it's too early to tell, a sample of only a few posts is useless -.-
Question: How do you know how many scum we're dealing with here? How do you know we're not dealing with multiple scum groups?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I'd have to disagree on that, actually. I sometimes state that I think the mafia are X and Y when I think there are 3, just because I don't know who else could be a part of that group.Reclusion wrote:
Sure. Jebus's first post mentioning her thoughts about the scum team:hasdgfas wrote:Could you explain where you see that post as saying Jebus knows how many scum there are?
The above quote implies a three-person scum team.Jebus, in 111, wrote:A semi-educated guess as to this games mafia would be BM, Reclusion, and Yaw, though I doubt that'd really lead to much.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Please explain what caught your attention as I really have no idea.Battle Mage wrote:From the look of it, it seems to be mere OMGUS. Reclusion's reaction is a bit jumpy- in saying that Alvinz put me near to a lynch, which is in fact, not the case. But Hasdgfas caught my attention with his post 95.
Unvote, Vote: Hasdgfas
BMjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Could you explain that not good feeling or do you just like agreeing with people who have no reasoning without even giving your reasoning.Xtoxm wrote:Welcome Qwints.
Iam might have a point, it does seem to be contradictive, but I didn't find it scummy when I first saw it.
I do agree that i've not been getting a good feel from Hasd.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I really have no idea why he is voting for me.Netman wrote:But if you want a comment Hasdgfas, why is Battle Mage voting for you in post 169? There seems to be little rhyme or reason with that vote. If Battle Mage really wanted to lynch you, why not provide a little more justification than your post saying random voting isn't helpful after real discussion has started. He's not giving enough impetus to start a bandwagon, so why vote at all?
Hasdgfas, I know you asked Battle Mage to clarify the reason for voting you, but why doyouthink Battle Mage is voting for you?
what the heck is this?Netman wrote:And don't you know you're supposed to bring up that somebody made a contentless post during lylo, to engineer a town loss by lynching an innocent person? You don't have any idea how to play as scum do you?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Wait, seriously? what?Netman wrote:
I have aReclusion wrote:Netman, if you wanted to know the reason for something, shouldn't you be going to the source (i.e. the person who actuallyplacedthe vote a.k.a. Battle Mage)? By questioning hasdgfas the way you are, you look like you're trying to instigate something between BM and hasdgfas rather than actually figure out the reason for the vote.verygood reason for asking the question the way I did. I find "distancing" votes made in a vacuum suspicious. If hasdgfas can't point to any of his posts he made that could have been suspicious, he's going to implicate Battle Mage in distancing. And if Battle Mage comes up scum, the question will come up of why did Battle Mage put an obviously ineffective vote on hasdgfas?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Why the heck would you want my reasoning for his vote before his reasoning for his vote? That doesn't make any sense at all. Seriously.Netman wrote:
You heard me. Why is Battle Mage voting for you? Clearly I'd like to hear his take on it too, but first I'd like to hear yours.hasdgfas wrote:Wait, seriously? what?
And if there's no reason whatsoever for Battle Mage to vote for you, I'd like to hear your reasoning on why he could possibly be doing it.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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That's not what you asked. You asked why I think BM voted me. That's a completely different question which is also a terrible question and it doesn't make sense why you would ask me that.Netman wrote:
I'm not asking him to mind-read. I'm asking him if he thinks there's a reason Battle Mage voted for him.Yaw wrote:At the risk of answering for Cow, this is a pointless line of questioning. BM has already said exactly why he's voting for Cow -- he found something in post 95. (You'd have to ask BM what precisely he found in post 95. Asking Cow to mind read for you isn't likely to be productive.)
Avoided the question? I answered the question then you started talking about distancing, which made no sense at all.Netman wrote:Yaw, given that avoiding a question is just another way of answering a question, and that hasdgfas twice avoided the question rather than simply say, "I don't know, seems scummy to me", I don't think the questioning was pointless. hasdgfas responded in one of the ways I thought was a possibility. And I made of a note of it. And assuming hasdgfas or Battle Mage is still alive come day 3 or 4, I'm sure these posts are going to be quoted.
unvote, vote Netman
He seems to be looking for any reason to implicate me and BM together, including the fact that I don't know why BM is voting me. This is quite ridiculous and scummy.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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So you're suspicious of me because I did something that was in the best interest of the town, but I apparently did it "condescendingly"? Aggressive is not the same as condescending.Battle Mage wrote:
I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.hasdgfas wrote:
you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?alvinz95 wrote:
No reason. Random.hasdgfas wrote:unvote, vote alvinz
Any reason for voting BM?
And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.
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jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Maybe you thought it was condescending, but that wasn't the intention.Battle Mage wrote:
No, you were definitely being condescending, in my book.hasdgfas wrote:
So you're suspicious of me because I did something that was in the best interest of the town, but I apparently did it "condescendingly"? Aggressive is not the same as condescending.Battle Mage wrote:
I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.hasdgfas wrote:
you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?alvinz95 wrote:
No reason. Random.hasdgfas wrote:unvote, vote alvinz
Any reason for voting BM?
And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.
BM
And no, im not suspicious because you did something protown. You DID nothing! But, you said something which the only real result of was to try and paint you in a protown light. Which is scummy.
BM
Also, what? How is what I said just to try to look protown? I really hate people who random vote after discussion has started and I almost always get on them about it. How is it scummy?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Cow is fine.Jebus wrote:Vote: Hasdgfas
Aside from the fact that your name is hard to pronounce (>.<)
As far as I can tell, Netman was only saying that because he thought I didn't answer the question when I actually did. That just undermines his entire attack on me. In addition, it's terrible logic all the way through. In fact:Jebus wrote:Post 207+210+198 - Pretty much what Netman said.unvote, vote: Jebus
If you want the reason, it's because it's a lot scummier to agree with terrible logic than have the terrible logic.
So I answered a question. I wasn't totally sure it was directed at BM when I answered it, plus, it should have been directed at the whole town because BM wasn't the only person to think like that.Jebus wrote:Post 41 (and 43 as followup) - This is the first post that makes me think BM and Has are related in some way.
Me questioning a vote on me seems faked? what? mood of the search? What are you talking about?Jebus wrote:Post 170 - Seems faked to me. Could just be the mood of this search, though :/
Going after is a very strong term for what I did.Jebus wrote:Noted: Post 121+126 - Goes after Reclusion
Ironic? what? And it was absolutely correct. Read his post again. It does absolutely nothing for the game. It's just a very long "hi I'm still here" post.Jebus wrote:Noted: Post 194 - A one liner that is both ironic and flat-out wrong.
Please try to remember that A) we haven't even found 1 mafia member yet, B) not everyone who seems a little suspicious is scum, and C) just because people are talking a lot doesn't mean they're scum. Is there a reason you're looking at 4 of the more talkative people as scum?Jebus wrote:So changing my list a bit, I think the mafia includes Hasd, BM, Reclusion, and possibly Yaw. And I'll probably look at BM in a little bit, and Reclusion/Yaw as well.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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*sigh* do we have a DGB alt in this game too?Toaster Strudel wrote:
ABSOLUTELY IT IS.qwints wrote:Battlemage, I feel like you're trying to start a fight. Those who have played with Battlemage, is this a scummy move?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Why, exactly is it the best we have to go on, Gnome?Mr_Gnome_It_All wrote:Unvote; Vote: Jebusbecause it's the best we have to go on for Day 1.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Oh, really? Please, go on. Is there an explanation behind how or why you can self-protect?Jebus wrote:
It'd be an option so that I'm not a night-kill target, though it leaves me more likely to get lynched.iamausername wrote:
If you were a doctor, how would this be an option? Why would you even be thinking about "options" for claiming?Jebus wrote:Option 1: I claim townie. I still get lynched.
I know that, as a general rule, you don't lynch claimed docs on D1, but I really want to make an exception here.
And I'm not worried about being night-killed because I can protect myself.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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Well, alvinz, first off:
Where's that post that I assumed was large because of how this was worded?alvinz95 wrote:Ugh, crap internet. 12 am now so post tomorrow if the internet works. Stupid comcast
Also, you haven't really said anything in your posts. I read through them, and you don't say a whole lot in regards to who you think is scummy, as far as I can tell.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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alvinz. Read the post I quoted in my previous post. Because you decided to make a post to say you would post tomorrow, I assumed it would be large.alvinz95 wrote:
...Jebus wrote:Okay, turns out I can't protect myself. Damn.
Anyway, who said that I would make a huge post?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I will have no access on Saturday, so expect something of a moderate size from me tomorrow at some point so I can get it in before deadline.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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yaw and I are buddies and he hasn't played a game in forever so I random voted him.qwints wrote:Hascow is the first to vote for Yaw.
So we were on the same bandwagon. I'm pretty sure others were on it too.qwints wrote:Hascow was the L-3 vote against Jebus. Yaw was the L-2 vote.
So you have all of no case on me, from what I can tell. I haven't been any quieter than some people, so why am I being isolatedqwintz wrote:Yaw's summary post after Jebus's doc claim:
This isn't much to go on, but Hascow has been pretty quiet.Yaw wrote: cow -- Lots of posts. All but one are one-liners. Really unfairly targeted by Jebus and Netman. Doesn't mean he isn't scum, but solidifying the alignment of one of the other two would make that a lot clearer.FOS: Hascow
1) Why are we discussing night action possibilities when we have no idea about anything?qwintz wrote:Here are my questions about last night
1: What would have happened if Yaw roleblocked Jebus, Jebus protected player x, mafia tried to kill player x and Yaw was killed by a sk? In other words, are the results consistent with Jebus being a doc?
2: Is there any reason to expect a vig instead of a sk? Also is there a possibility besides those two that I'm not seeing?
3: I agree with iamusername that Jebus should say who they protected with. That seems like it would provide useful information. Is there any reason this would not be a good thing to claim?
2) um, no reason to suspect one over the other. Why does it matter? Why are we setup speculating?
3) This would only be good information to tell if we have a good reason for it and know what information we're trying to get.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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I'd like to hear this too.Mana_Ku wrote:Alvinz, what do you think of Jebus claim right now?
@qwintz: Do you mind actually commenting on the defense I made with regards to your accusations? Did you change your mind, did it have no effect, did it strengthen your thoughts? why did you completely ignore it?jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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He claimed scum. We will lynch him. If he's town, he's an idiot. If he's scum, then we get rid of him.
You should be voting for alvinz because he. How many other good lynches of this variety will we have?claimed scum
We can look at panzer/netman tomorrow. Alvinz should be the lynch.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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False, false, false, false, false. You don't claim scum as town ever. No matter what. It's one of the stupidest things you can do. You still deserve to be lynched for claiming scum, power role or not.alvinz95 wrote:If you took my claim scum seriously, then you are scummy or scum. Hasdfgas is scum and Jebus.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
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No, I want to get rid of someone who is anti-town, you. You should not claim scum, whether or not you are town. It's the least town thing I can do. I cannot trust anything you say for the rest of the game because of it.alvinz95 wrote:So you're saying that I'm town and I shouldn't claim scum, and since I claimed scum though I'm town, then I should be lynched regardless. You just want to get rid of a power role don't you? Anti-town.
Unvote, Vote: hasdgfasjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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I assumed he was an idiot. I was right. I policy lynch anyone who claims scum, unless I know there's a jester in the game.chazworthington wrote:
What was your first reaction when Alvinz wasn't defending himself and later claimed to be scum? That sounded pretty good play for a jester to me.hasdgfas wrote:FoS: chazworthington
Why did you feel it necessary to mention jesters yesterday?
Jesters are almost never in closed games, so you always assume there aren't any. Discussion of them just distracts the town and is, frankly, stupid.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
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You need to claim if you're going to be this cryptic. We can't trust you at this point because you could be anything.Panzerjager wrote:I'm not Claiming, and I targeted cow so i'm assuming the info is on you.
The reason I asked that question is because we have the possibility of bus drivers/redirectors/framers, and when you don't get the name in the result, you have to be aware of that possibility and not go so readily off of your results right away.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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this does not make me SK at all. Why the heck would you jump on me immediately upon day starting with no info at all?Panzerjager wrote:Roleblockerjdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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bus drivers fit as normal. So do framers, for that matter.Panzerjager wrote:Also this is a large normal, we're not gonna have bus driver's or redirectors. And framing doesn't work here.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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*bzzt* re-read the kill flavor. It looks like iam was killed in addition to his suicide.Panzerjager wrote:1 kill: they aren't gonna kill chaz twice.. Therefore I blocked a kill.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Can you elaborate? I have no idea how you can get that.qwints wrote:2. If there are only two players who can stop a mafia kill
and If the mafia tried to kill someone night one
and If Panzer is telling the truth about being a roleblocker who blocked Alvinz
and If Jebus is a doctor.
then chaz is town.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I find that scum more often defend townies than their partners. Have I actually done anything scummy to make you think I'm scum? Or are you just thinking that based on dead scum "defending me" and Panzer's terrible "info" on me?chazworthington wrote:In Yaw's list of players D1, he mentioned that Cow was unjustly targeted D1. That might be the closest thing we have to Yaw defending another player.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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230: It was not a fricking OMGUS vote! I had solid reasons for it. Just because I voted someone who voted me doesn't make it OMGUS!bionicchop2 wrote:Hasdgfas
seems to be active, but nothing note worthy to this point.
214 - vote on netman (good)
230 - OMGUS vote on Jebus (weak) good point about more active players being seen as scummy though.
286 - unvotes doc claim, switches to alvinz (reason excluded)
336 - switches to gnome (again reasons excluded). Impending deadline is not a free pass for scummy votes.
365 - good response to qwints
Current read: high scum chance. Speculation that he may be SK might actually let him live longer. Lack of knowing if Iamuser was killed twice muddies this. Actions have been scummy - mainly he has been active, but content is low and votes lack solid reasoning. I have no previous game experience to know if this is normal town play from him.
D2 lynch:
Alvinz - Panz, Xtoxm, Jebus, Cow, Iamuser, Alvinz
analysis - If we assume at least 1 scum voted here, only Xtoxm and cow are not claimed protective roles. Xt gave no reason and Cow jumped on when the train was at max speed.
336: I never voted for gnome. I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
"content is low": What exactly do you mean by that? I try to have all of my posts contain content, whether they're one line or 5 paragraphs. You can have just as much content in one line as in 5 paragraphs.
"votes lack solid reasoning": Please expand upon this idea.
You seriously cannot call me scummy for jumping on alvinz... He CLAIMED SCUM! If someone claims scum, everyone should immediately vote for them no matter what they say afterwards.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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You assumed there was at least 1 scum. You mentioned me as one of two people who weren't either dead or a claimed power role. Of course I'm going to defend myself.bionic wrote:I never said the action of you voting for alvinz was scummy, so not sure why you are defensive there. Your vote on his wagon stands out because other on there are either dead or claimed power.
Also, not giving reasons when you vote isn't scummy in and of itself. Refusing to give a reason when called out on it is. I was never called out on it, because every vote had good backing.
Asking "minor" questions can be a great way of scumhunting. Active lurking? seriously? The only posts I've made that I would consider active lurking were at the very beginning of the game. Short posts do not active lurking make. Asking questions is a great way of getting reactions to look at later.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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I could believe no scum on the alvinz wagon. I could also believe Xtoxm as scum. Alvinz claimed scum. Every townie should have immediately voted for him.
It doesn't make it scummy to not give reasons with your vote though. It's more a null tell.
I haven't done a formal analysis of responses, but I definitely have done a mental analysis of how my thoughts on people have been affected.
my scumhunting method on day 3? You really expect scumhunting after the second post of the day was Panzer claiming role info on me? That's just silly.
I understand why he would think what he does, bionic, especially since he claimed RB. If he had claimed a true info role, trust me, I would have voted him. RB, on the other hand, is not really a true info role. Plus, it's Panzer. I know him well enough to know that he gets too aggressive over nothing. I was really shocked he had role info against me, but he was so sure of it that I knew he wasn't lying. Therefore, I was trying to figure out how he could have info on me, and I assumed it was another role of some sort. I have to say that I didn't assume something this stupid though.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Thank you, Xtoxm, for answering before Panzer did and thus losing our only chance of actually catching him in any sort of lie.........Xtoxm wrote:Not to give him an out, but SSK said "has" replaced directly after he posted the scene. I think he could have sent an action himself.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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If you're V/LA until Friday, move the deadline later.MafiaSSK wrote:If it hasn't been mentioned already I'm VLA until Friday. I
ll get everything sorted out by then. Sorrry!jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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Guys, I think voting Panzer for pressure is fine, but we already have a dead mafia RB. Unless you think Panzer is lying about his claim in some way, we shouldn't lynch him.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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yes, I've been following. I don't like a Panzer lynch for a couple reasons:Xtoxm wrote:...Have you not been following..?
A) His actions today make sense with claiming he targeted me, especially since it's Panzer.
B) We have a dead mafia RB. I don't think we have two anti-town blocking roles and I think he is what he claimed.
C) He hasn't come back to defend himself yet. He needs to do that.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow-
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and? I see a way it doesn't make a difference. I want Panzer to come in and post before making a decision.Xtoxm wrote:You're not paying attention.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 17#1319217
He said this after Panzer claimed to know what his role did N1.jdodge1019: hasjghsalghsakljghs is from vermont
jdodge1019: vermont is made of liberal freaks and cows
jdodge1019: he's not a liberal
jdodge1019: thus he is a cow