Vote Battle Mage
If he's mafia, we're so lynching neko/sekinj next.
We gotta at least try this time theory.
If BM turns up scum, especially mafia scum, I am. I've had trouble with reading Sekinj/Neko this game, since Neko has been my top town read and Sekinj has been my top scum read... so they've ended up near the middle this whole time. Huh.WaltWishbone wrote:I think the game is far from over, Sekinj/Neko are my top town read and I am not just going to vote for them on times alone.Cephrir wrote:I can honestly say I hope we didn't just catch all the scum. 'Cause that would be a really lame way for the game to end. Shrug.
This is correct. But when I learned she was paired with you, that completely threw me off. If this wasn't a lovers' game, I'd definitely have been pushing for her lynch this whole time.neko wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but before the daytalk was posted, Sek was only on your radar once early on in the game (sometime before your self-vote). So, if she's been your top scum pick this whole time, why let others get in the way? I know you've pegged me as most town, but it seems that if you really thought she was scum, it wouldn't have mattered who her partner was. This is part of a discussion that happened early on in the game, I suppose.
If BM was going to lie, he'd put 10:07, you know.WaltWishbone wrote:I'm not sure, that's what I want to figure out. If the times have no indication of alignment as Destructor said and BM lied about his time, it is possible that no one else had a 9:42pm timestamp. I am not saying it's a bad vote or not a good case to pursue at all, I just want to be completely convinced before lynching anyone.Crazy wrote:Yeah, but if sekinj isn't the other mafia, who is? Nobody else had the same time.
That's not true either. The mod could have done one thread, gone and taken a shower, and came back and did some others.Darox wrote:Darox wrote:The idea is that the mod decided to add the town daytalks AFTER the scum daytalks, and thus created them later.
However, this falls apart completely when you realize the timestamp for the post where the mod announces he will give everyone daytalk threads is half an hour before the first time recorded for the mod's opening of a daytalk thread.
Yes, you're correct. Which is why what I'm saying applies to sekinj, but not to armlx.Darox wrote:And that doesn't prove anything about the alignments of the people he did before taking a break.Crazy wrote:That's not true either. The mod could have done one thread, gone and taken a shower, and came back and did some others.
No, it shows that WWB's case against you is a null-tell.sekinj wrote:so doesn't that show that I'm NOT scum?Crazy wrote:When I typed out my daytalk, I didn't even copy & paste at all. If sekinj was scum, he could just claim that, you know. So this whole argument is pointless.
How many more townies can we kill for "free" in order to test a theory the MOD dis-proved?
-BM had the time 9:42.sekinj wrote:then what is your case?Crazy wrote:No, it shows that WWB's case against you is a null-tell.sekinj wrote:so doesn't that show that I'm NOT scum?Crazy wrote:When I typed out my daytalk, I didn't even copy & paste at all. If sekinj was scum, he could just claim that, you know. So this whole argument is pointless.
How many more townies can we kill for "free" in order to test a theory the MOD dis-proved?
Nice try, though.
Neither of you is a good lynch, btw. Armlx, maybe later. You, you're looking much better now.charter wrote:SCUM ARMLX/SLEEPYPANDA
Just make sure you lynch them after me, I'm not going to make a huge case because no one will listen to me anyway, pretty much the whole reason I haven't said anything of merit for a while now, but rest assured that they are, in fact, scum.
Umm, how exactly will proving that you're innocent prove them guilty. Townies are uninformed as far as I know. o_ocharter wrote:Actually, I kind of want to be lynched. I can't see any way that armlx/SP can weasel their way out trouble when the obvious is confirmed. I feel that a one for one trade with scum here would be quite good, and once armlx/SP are lynched, I honestly don't have much of a clue who the last scum are, and I'm really not looking forward to a 95 page reread to figure it out.
-BM's timestamp was 9:42.RR wrote:Crazy - what about the mod specifically saying timestamps have nothing to do with alignment? Also, if you believe it to be true, why sej/neko rather than armlx/Panda? Both are proven scum if we were to believe it, since everyone but them have the 'townie' first post timestamp.
But Iceman didn't post his time, right? So armlx could have his 9:45 time all to himself. There's nothing disproving that.Raging Rabbit wrote:And according to this theory, who else could be Iceman's partner other than armlx?
I dunno. Use that argument for lynching armlx if you like.Raging Rabbit wrote:Why would all townies possibly have the same timestamp except for one pair?
And I pretty much agree with Knight there.
Dude, if we were lynching based on scumminess alone, then we'd be dead a long time ago. Please get with the program, and look for people who are scum, not people who look like scum.Knight of Cydonia wrote:Crazy - no. Sek is one of my strongest town reads, and I refuse to lynch on something that may not be anything more than a quirk of the day-talk setups.
You fail.Raging Rabbit wrote:Your own lover doesn't, alone with Walt who came up with the timestamps thing and generally most of the people in this game. Stop with this 'anybody' BS.
Why do you find her scummy? Also, doesn't Destructer going out of his way to say that timestamps don't matter count anything?
No, this fails. For one, neko and sekinj have anRaging Rabbit wrote:Alright, here's one that makes perfect sense. SP and sekinj are the only ones that replaced people who signed up to play right off the bat (along with Adel, but we don't know what timestamp she got). The mod simply took a little longer to check who signed up to replace and title their forum appropriately. BM lied. I'd much rather believe it was him than the mod.Crazy wrote:You fail.Raging Rabbit wrote:Your own lover doesn't, alone with Walt who came up with the timestamps thing and generally most of the people in this game. Stop with this 'anybody' BS.
Why do you find her scummy? Also, doesn't Destructer going out of his way to say that timestamps don't matter count anything?
Explain how sekinj could possibly have the same timestamp as BM. If you can come with aprobablereason, then I will withdraw my case?
Can't? Hmph.
Scum teams have the same timestamp. Whatever the mod says, nothing can change that.Raging Rabbit wrote:Ok, so say he checked who they were and posted their DT earlier, then took and a shower and posted in everyone else's. It's not like scum opening post has to be phrased any differently than town's, so he could probably just copy-paste the same message for scum as well as town if he wanted to. BM could've chosen a random player to copy from, or figure out the tell and use it to get an innocent lynched in the future. Again, who's more likely to lie - a player or the *mod*?Crazy wrote:No, this fails. For one, neko and sekinj have an earlier timestamp than most players, not later.
And if BM was going to be bothered to lie, don't you think he'd at least lie and say 10:07?
I'd say around 90-95% confirmed scum.neko2086 wrote:So which is it?
No comment. Haven't read enough into this game.charter wrote:What do you think of SP crazy?
Really, that's not needed. Most people have very unstable metas, so unless if it's something like "Player X always appeals to emotion, so that's a null-tell" then meta really isn't that great.WWB wrote:That's a really excellent point crazy; I haven't done a meta on either of them and probably should. I'd really like to hear more of your thoughts on that aspect.
Uhh, if I was voting you based on scumminess, then yeah, that would be bad... but based on the timestamp thing, I'd be voting for you regardless of how pro-town you were.sekinj wrote:Do I even need to point out how anti-town this is? Its so great that this guy is going after my lynch and not even reading the game. That's how I like to play...
This is correct. However, he still votes charter for reasons of self-preservation.armlx wrote:No, it doesn't. Lynching myself + Panda tests the theory the mod is lying to us. Lynching Sekinj + neko tests the timestamp link to BM/CWR, which was NOT stated as necessarily false by the mod.
It would be outguessing the mod to lynch armlx because of that. I've stated why you are a much different case.sekinj wrote:Yeah, that's all I can "muster" because you absolutely refuse to look at any evidence, which you just admitted the sentence before. It applies becuase you are SUPPOSED to be voting on scumminess and NOT TIMESTAMPS. and that comes straight from the mod, so you are trying to out-guess the mod. I'm sure it will end badly for you and especially for the town if you persist.Crazy wrote:Uhh, if I was voting you based on scumminess, then yeah, that would be bad... but based on the timestamp thing, I'd be voting for you regardless of how pro-town you were.sekinj wrote:Do I even need to point out how anti-town this is? Its so great that this guy is going after my lynch and not even reading the game. That's how I like to play...
Please, all you can muster is some attempt to show that I'm playing lazily? And that even applies herewhy?
Yesterday, when we had all posted our daytalk, some people had different "timestamps," that is, time that the quicktopic was created.DrippingGoofball wrote:Can someone explain this? I don't get it.Cephrir wrote:This attitude makes me want to lynch sekinj more on the off chance Crazy is right.Raging Rabbit wrote:If townies and scum have distinctive timestamps, both have to be scum. If there's no indication, like the mod said, it doesn't matter for both. No, I don't see a difference.
*cough* This is an open game, so this setup (daytalking included) came from the Open Setup Nominations Thread, andKnight of Cydonia wrote:I just hope destructor learns his lesson next time he wants to do day-talk.
I'd kill the daytalk thing entirely. Realize that every scum was caught using the daytalk. Iceman because of that thing he said "unless you got some special message after your role PM" and BM/CWR because of their stalling to post daytalk. Armlx I assume most of you lynched because of the timestamp, but I never would have because I don't see how it proved him scum, and now we're lynching sekinj.Xtoxm wrote:No, if they are indeed mafia I blame the mod for allowing this to happen.