Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

do you guys think this setup is multiball?

VOTE: T3

Can it still be serial killers though?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We should not claim, ever. Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

VOTE: DGB

Imagine doing any of that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah never mind i thought i remembered Lich saying something about this in sign up thread, and yep, confirmed to only be town and mafia.

My game only contains Town and Mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And with that i claim serial killer.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero Cain you're acting suspiciously absently and non-presency. Looks like you're scum by meta.
VOTE: Nero Cain

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's an surprising amount of sense you're making Quick.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Burp

[NorwegianboyEE]

That was stream of consciousness.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can’t say i remember much of your "systems"
But maybe if i witness it i’ll refresh that memory.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I approve this. Lets go with it.

Srs?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero Cain you're acting suspiciously absently and non-presency. Looks like you're scum by meta.
VOTE: Nero Cain

That's an surprising amount of sense you're making Quick.

That was stream of consciousness.

Can’t say i remember much of your "systems"
But maybe if i witness it i’ll refresh that memory.

Scum posting.

Your face is scum posting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nah that's the towniest town that ever towned XD

I know you're being sarcastic althought town do omgus really hard.

Roden the only reason that you are voting me is bc I called u scum while my vote wasn't on u right?

Kinda. I wanted to see your reaction and if you'd explain your stance, but you didn't even follow up with a vote. You sound unsure though, so gun to my head, I wouldn't flip you.

Nero WIM < something = scum

I usually pretend to know Mafia terms but I've never been able to figure out what WIM means.

I pretended to know what it means for about a year before i finally asked.
It really means: "wants it more". As in, if you’re putting in high efforts to win as either allignment you have a very high WIM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Caught up. Tbh not getting most scumreads rn, not really feeling the Nero or T3 scumreads. Although I kind of agreed with Cheeky's read on Norwegian. Slight townlean for the beginning.

I don't really like Shrek's reasoning for voting me, at least the latter part. Coming up with the beetlejuice argument at the first entrance is pretty eeehhh.

Don’t like this kind of summarizing post.
Feels very performative.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Cheeky is real in this game.
As in, they’re not the goofy villain scum player i saw during our last game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

where did Norweigh go anyways?

Yeah, where did he go?
Going to sleep during bedtime??

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is Nero's scumgame. He's about to start his tunnel on me to look like he's doing something for the rest of D1. This is a legit replay of the last time we were TvS.

Ew no.

...wait i’m still voting Nero so i look hypocritical.

UNVOTE:

*Cough*...

...Ew no.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lq u r so bad man. I swear You've scum read me every game and I've been scum in none of them

Town Nero posting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd policy eliminate lq but I'm not so sure he's scum. Tell me y he is.

I’ve had the same thoughts on Quick slot in many games.

[NorwegianboyEE]

2 votes isn't pressure.

How about 3?

VOTE: T3

You let us know when you feel pressured enough.

I would prob join if i didn’t feel tempted to vote Testarossa.
T3 is just so adorably wagonable this game. I just wanna hug him, stroke him behind the ear and whisper: "you’re going to hell buddy :)))"

[NorwegianboyEE]

VC 1.5

Nero Cain (5) - NorwegianboyEE, ArcAngel9, Roden, T3, CheekyTeeky
T3 (4) - Save The Dragons, Dwlee99, LicketyQuickety, Almost50
Roden (2) - Nero Cain, DrippingGoofball
Almost50 (1) - MegAzumarill
Testarossa (1) - Shrek
Dwlee99 (1) - Gamma Emerald
Save The Dragons (1) - Testarossa

Not voting: KittyTacky, Dragon of the West

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-08-21 18:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

More evidence this is possible SvT. Will be interesting to look back on D2 at the least.

You seem real confident.
Why don’t you relax and have a nice calm meditating session instead of being so tense early on Cheeky.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But town would have said!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town Nero doesn’t do x!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norweigan thoughts on slots outside of the LQ/Nero/Cheeky circle right now?

I’ve got some townreads i won’t talk about m. And i’ve got an vote for someone special.
VOTE: Testarossa

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town Nero doesn’t do x!!!

What's with the snit fit?

What snit fit?
Do i seem angry?
I’m just like... memeing yo...

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s no wonder you’re paranoid. Me and Nero can understand each other on an deeper level than your shitty reads on us.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s no wonder you’re paranoid. Me and Nero can understand each other on an deeper level than your shitty reads on us.

...

What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you were to ask me, i think they’re tunneling you as town.

Now let’s kill Testarossa.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like I’m more familiar with your relationship with Nero and I also think Nero is scummy
So I’m a bit concerned you’re trying attack Cheeky’s ability to read you two

What is scummy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll give it an honest thought, but i’m not really seeing what it is?
Omgusing their main voter: checkmark
Bluntly calling people scumreading him dumb: checkmark

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you were to ask me, i think they’re tunneling you as town.

Now let’s kill Testarossa.

Interested to hear why you are finding them as scummy. Their initial readthrough seemed pretty townie to me.

One of their posts feel fake and for early day 1 standards that’s good enough for me.
I’ll go through their ISO again though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hellu to all I know from the recent game, it's like 04:00 Am here and now is the best time to be here. Oh yeah, and the others too.

VOTE: Nero

Are you scum again or what's up with that early wagon?

Actually i hate this post too.

"What’s up with the early wagon" Bleh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How do you do fellow humans. Do you too find early wagons intriguing?!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t really understand Nero’s push on Megamril so i’d like him to explain that more.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, for the record. I highly doubt this is an evil oush from scum!Cheeky. In my experience this kind of push almost always comes from town.
But i’m not sure i’m sold on Nero being scum.
So like. Scum!Nero and Town!Cheeky feel at least slightly possible. Whereas scum!Cheeky and Town!Nero seems downright impossible.
Leaning town on Nero though because i’d like to think i can read him well and he feels gut town to me here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I honestly can't imagine scum posting mid readthrough like this.

What do you mean?
Scum can’t post midways through their catch up?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean, I guess it's not impossible that she'd make a mistake like that as scum but I like to think she'd be a little more careful

Who?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gamma is town. He's not trying hard enough to be scum.

Is the second part an joke?
Gamma is pretty competent as scum you know.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh ok. I get it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were in that game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cheeky are you referring to Large 230?
You didn’t seem to be in that game so what made you consider it?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol I'm so good. No it's a general rule for Gamma.

Okay then.
Seems legit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll bite on T3 but if it flips green you know what's up.
VOTE: T3

A big hug.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I honestly can't imagine scum posting mid readthrough like this.

What do you mean?
Scum can’t post midways through their catch up?

I feel like scum would want to look at the current dynamics of the game before posting. Also the content feels more like a legitimate question from a town than someone with an agenda due to its weird roundabout nature. Scum certainly could post mid readthrough, but I feel like that's more of a townie thing, especially with something like that.

I think these traits aren’t as town indicative as you claim, especially not to the level where you had them as "locktown". I’ve caught up as scum before and i do it in the exact manner, where i don’t look ahead and also ask some pointless questions to look town from it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah Nero is town.

How does it feel to have a wrong opinion?

Meta wall on Nero coming soon.

What happened to this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll bite on T3 but if it flips green you know what's up.
VOTE: T3

Why did you stop voting Nero?
I thought you scumread them...

[NorwegianboyEE]

I DECLARE A TOWNBLOC!

T3, LQ, CheekyTeeky, Meg, and NorweiganboyEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This would have been a lot better if you didn't include yourself...

Don’t townblocks usually include oneself...?

[NorwegianboyEE]

This isn't half bad. Norwee read a bit hasty, but a lean there is acceptable for now.

Since when did you become an paragon in giving people advice on how to read my slot? We’ve played one single game where i caught you pretty much immediately for being scum, and nothing else.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Knock that cheekiness a tad bit down when dealing with me :)))

[NorwegianboyEE]

LQ is always a bit curly for me and I feel like they're almost too friendly to be town since I remember them being quite short and assertive as town.

I mean... you're not wrong. But some things have changed since I last played here. Trying to be more kind and not as much of a jerk, honestly.

Respectable.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, hey I can catch you as scum =/= you can't read me. ^.^

What does this mean?
Unless you’re scum here i should have the correct read on you. Meaning i can in fact read you quite well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

std - i think that StD has come off as kind of lazy tbh??? looking back through his iso he hasnt given anything of substance beyond three gut reads and explaining that they were gut reads, so i would like to see more from him on that.

i play very lazily

You do.
...not sure if this has any allignment indicatating point at all. But it’s definitely true.

[NorwegianboyEE]

dgb might actully be scum here.

Sure why not?
I won’t go into detail about exactly what i find different from them yet, as i want to see if it’s something they will keep up. But not a bad spot to push imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why am I scum?

Because you lied about meta diving Nero...

Uhhhhhhh

I have literally zero evidence that you meta Dived Nero.

LQ please.
You’re not just on another level. You’re on another dimensional plane from the rest of us.

[NorwegianboyEE]

almost50 - honestly not all that bad, but i would like to hear some actual reads on the game because looking back on his iso he doesn't really have a lot. even if its just the first impressions that hes been getting anything would help a lot

*Sigh*

One thing you should know about me is I'm not a conventional player. I Scum hunt in "weird" ways, pay attention to stuff that usually go unnoticed, and sometime miss the obvious.

One of my weird ways of scumhunting is to look into the first 3 posters in each game, as these have been proven -statistically- to have 1 scum in them more often than not. However, this tool has failed me of late, and even if it's true here; the first 3 were STD (who hasn't given me much yet), ArcAngel (who isn't really playing the game), Dwlee (whom I seem to always have trouble reading as his Town and Scum play are almost identical).

The top 3 most active players (CT/Nero/LQ) all seem Town to me so far, but don't quote me on it because there's usually 1 hyperactive scum.

The following block of Norwee/T3/Meg/DGB/Gamma/Shrek/Roden should contain 1-2 scums in it, while Dwlee/DotW/STD/Testa/Kitty/Arc should contain the other 2-1.

Another problem is I was Scum in the previous game against a whole bunch of the players in this game and I did use the inactivity of Arc/Kitty against their slots. This is to say I think it's NAI for them to be of low activity. but it's still getting to me because I had ALWAYS SR'd lurkers eversince I started playing Mafia at all. (N_M is a rare exception)

I guess I should also warn you that when forced to give early reads I may or may not deliberately lie about some of them for various reasons. For example; I may have recognized someone as a strong TR (or even PR) and want to protect them from the Scum NK by demoting them on my readlist. There are other reasons/cases, but I'm not about to write a "How A50 plays the game" guide, so I'll leave it at that.

This feels sufficiently agenda free to warrant a decently strong townread from me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I kept my vote on you because your responses to pressure haven't been good.

tell me more

I did, it was in my post.

ou dropped attention on me when you saw I wasn't getting wagon'd, and then you started focusing on Mega,

i don't think this is true? Also there's more than 1 scum in this game why should my sole focus be on you?

It's true according to your ISO.

Didn't say your sole focus had to be on me? I'm saying if you think I'm scum then I don't think it's a real scum read if you'd give up that easily to try to wagon someone else instead. It gives me an "anyone but me" attitude which isn't helpful to town.

ou're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed

never said anything about mega bussing me...

Wagon'd. You know what I meant.

so why ignore everyone else?

this is blatantly false

You've said nothing on ArcAngel, almost nothing on Gamma, almost nothing on Cheeky.

And again you're picking and choosing what you respond to as long as it helps your narrative. I won't be responding to much else if you keep trying to argue with me in bad faith.

Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My vote on Nero was obvious RVS and Nero also recognized it as such.
How is this relevant?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Slots i kinda wanna see votes on right now -> Rokon/DGB
There’s obviously still scum elsewhere, but i think these are good leads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Roden*
Sorry

[NorwegianboyEE]

How do you do fellow humans. Do you too find early wagons intriguing?!

I feel like Testa is in the same sub group Shrek is in AKA the awkward entrance group. I understand there's a bit of a language barrier, but it reads to me like they're both trying really hard not to look scummy in their intro but then paradoxically make themselves look scummy.

This also might be an defense of partner if Tesla or whatever their name was is scum here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Almost50
DrippingGoofball
T3
Nero Cain
KittyTacky
Gamma Emerald
NorwegianboyEE
Dwlee99
CheekyTeeky
LicketyQuickety
ArcAngel9
Dragon of the West
Save The Dragons
Testarossa
MegAzumarill
Roden
Shrek

Testarossa, right. Anyway i’m townreading
A50, Nero, Cheeky, Quick, MegAzumarill.
Slightly townreading Gamma for Cheeky’s TR on them. Slightly feeling T3 town but not super confident.

A whole bunch of slots that i don’t have a read on or struggle to even remember

Feeling like these slots are scummy: DGB, Testarossa, Roden.

Also Dwlee is lackluster. I thought i would be TR’ing them by now if they are town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, hey I can catch you as scum =/= you can't read me. ^.^

What does this mean?
Unless you’re scum here i should have the correct read on you. Meaning i can in fact read you quite well.

No you said, that I can't read you because we've only played one game and you caught me as scum. I'm saying just because you caught me as scum doesn't mean I can't read you or give an opinion of reads on you in this game.

Unless you think you've obv towned already?

You don’t read me, i read YOU!
You’re town, now be quiet and submissively sheep all my reads thanks~~

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, I'm not liking Shrek, Testa, and StD.

Oh, are you familiar with these slots?
You’re probably worth keeping around then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still like my vote on Testarossa btw.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Norwee it's probably cause I've mentally decided on who I want to die today and that is blocking other stuff

You don’t seem to be trying very hard to get that person killed.
Which makes me feel you’re not really trying to solve or do anything townie at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Roden is town. A50 needs to sit for a few days before any reads on him are ripe.

Come wagon DGB. Maybe the scums will come out to play.

Fineee.
VOTE: DGB

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have mentally considered who I'm town reading. Not every thought I have has to go in thread.

Yes they do.
Who are you townreading and why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gonna add that you're also sheeping Norway even though they voted you. You only seem to care about why I specifically voted you.

My scum read on Roden is dissipating.

Ok i wanna vote Tests again.
VOTE: Testarossa

[NorwegianboyEE]

{LicketyQuickety, Roden, MegAzumarill, NorwegianboyEE}
{Gamma Emerald, Shrek, Dwlee99}
{Almost50, KittyTacky, ArcAngel9, Save The Dragons}
{Testarossa, Dragon of the West}
{DrippingGoofball, T3}{Nero Cain}

This is where I'm at currently.

Can you explain what made you go from scum to town!me in an clear and comprehensible manner?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Feel free to join on DGB, they're warm and squishy to sit on.

Cheeky Teeky using repetition as a means to create a charismawagon.

Lol

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not sure about T3 but i really think this Nero wagon needs to go away. I feel he’s been towntellingva lot here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

scumplaining

Great. Now i’m going to have to use this term for every game in the future.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Testarossa / T3 wagons go go go

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s perfectly possible T3 said he would meta dive Nero, then decided he would rather go navelgazing.
Completelly NAI that is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t feel good about this sudden Testa wagon

This is a large.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Considering we have what? 14 ish town players?
And a high majority to execute.
Complaining about a wagon with like 3 votes springing up feeling "sudden" really irks me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Suit yourself, i think there is perfectly fine reasoning for it. The Nero wagon sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think i’m more in the Cheeky school than Nero school when it comes to elimination priority.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybs it's just T3, Kitty, Testa and a mystery scumbutt like AA9.

@Gamma
Meaning i like voting any of these slots better for today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s mostly that i want T3 or Testa and i don’t see DGB or Gamma as scum/scummy enough to be an elimination by this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Isn’t Shrek also an lurkbutt? Or do i just always forget reading his posts?

[NorwegianboyEE]

However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early.

I don’t have time to read another game, can you summarize?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That post is a bit better from Shrek.
The reason i don’t put out a ton of reads is because i like to make myself easy to understand and thus mostly focus on key town and scumleans rather than share every single opinion i have on every slot. Even if i might still have and keep them in mind.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I also believe this is the optimal way to play larges, as if the game get’s too complex and polluted with posts and high information it’s harder to keep up and actually solve or get the needed support to focus on one scum player and get them eliminated.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gotta say i have a townlean on Shrek right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know what's weird. Noone is scumreading me O_O

You can be scum in my heart.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Shrek seems a bit like Not_Mafia

Not in the slightest imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God forbid. Non-participating conf!towns are my worst nightmare.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nka is silly for the most part. It's all wifom.

Nah man.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cheeky i love your avi.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Last Testarossa post was in page 8.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wish todays hot topics were more active.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Last Testarossa post was in page 8.

Testarossa is the correct choice for today's game rapture.

Why do you think so?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dwlee/Gamma probably not aligned based on this misunderstanding.

[NorwegianboyEE]

OH MY GOD

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 having an avatar is soooo weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it just me or does Nero seem content to rant about things that benefit his position on me while ignoring all the counter-evidence

I don’t like the way you’re shading Nero.
I was mostly under the impression that Nero just had his standard bad tunnel on a town slot with how he’s pushing you. But i never had his allignment in doubt. You trying to make it out as if he’s so scummy for it rather than just ignoring him and towntelling doesn’t sit right with me either.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Gamma

I want to go here for now. Something feels off with Nero/T3/Gamma and I wanna see if and how wagons shift with Gamma thrown in the mix.

Tempted.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Angry gamma is scum gamma. See I just offered evidence

then you're an idiot or a liar, because that's completely false

Nero: Angry Gamma is scum Gamma.

Gamma: I’m NOT ANGRY YOU IDIOT!! rARGghhhhllk1#%%%!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also do you really think scum puts in the effort to read 10 DGB games?

Lol ok scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i would literally shit myself if t3 and nero were scum together

why?

1. they have been at each others throats the whole game

2. nero is my top townread and has been for a while. i would be floored if he is scum

Shrek’s posts continue to make me feel town emanating from them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: gamma
Can't say why but this is almost 100% scum.

You can’t say why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

This feels like an gamestate of: "scum is getting wagoned so something fucky is going on, but it’s hard to tell where it’s coming from"
I feel like we should eliminate in T3/Gamma today but i’m not entirely sure whuch one is best yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Noting T3’s surefire Gamma read especially.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like, T3 ALL of a sudden has Gamma nailed? Wut even?

Okay, wagons on T3 and Gamma plz.

Yep we’re on the same wavelength.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have an extremely accurate meta scum read on t3 right now, y'all should sheep me.

You’re totally not trolling.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanna do the good old Among Us strat here.

The "No u"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe Dwlee is town. Their recent posts r good.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ll give it some more time but if i were forced to put down a new vote it would be on T3.
I want to hear if this really is out of his scum range as some people claim though. I mean, T3’s signature says he is an ballsy player so why not?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t townread your swearing just saying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wouldn’t it be funny if T3 scum pushing town!Gamma and Gamma thinks they are town for it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t townread your swearing just saying.

I wouldn’t expect you to. But FOR THE LOVE OF GOD stop fucking circlejerking to your wrong ass opinions!

I mean, if we don’t circlejerk at least a little bit it’s going to be much harder to get any sort of wagon on scum at all.
But i see what you’re saying.
Who do you think is the scum behind all of this if you and T3 are both town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I definitely think scum are sitting back and letting town fight amongst themselves
So something like StD/Arc/Testa/MegA feels possible

That also seems like pretty wishful thinking to assume all 4 scum are doing barely anything.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Megazumarill
Cheeky’s commands are law.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol Nero. Like 90% of your posts is exclusively just saying why someone is scum for what they are doing.
I just find it amusing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I honestly think T3 is a bit scummier, but if Gamma flips town we can just do him tommorow so i'm not that against this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Arcangel that sort of catchup is extremely annoying. I don't see the context and it's hard to understand if you actually have anything to say about the games currents circumstances other than making remarks about the first pages like an football commentator.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would it feel less dead if i hammer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh woe be me i was scum and i admit because i was hammered!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

We can still do T3 for their awkward turn around just as Gamma’s fate looks to be sealed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

"KILL GAMMA!!!"

>Gamma E-1

"Actually my case sucks, they prob town. I can’t keep up lolololo!

- Scum!T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

GG

[NorwegianboyEE]

When scum pT