I think mass-claiming might be a good idea. Then we can judge all scumminess based off of two people rather than one. Then it's like this is a 12-player game.
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It makes it harder for the scum to fly under the radar. How about that? I mean, when someone only has 3 posts for a game day, how are you supposed to tell if they're scum or town? If we can tie them to someone whom has the same alignment at them, then we can base our lynches off of the scumminess of 2 people, instead of 1.
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I can't understand what you're saying... how can any claims be ridiculous in a mountainous game? What I meant by mass-claiming was everyone telling us who their lover was.pwnz wrote:Massclaim could also fail if the Mafia is set into an even number and/or multiple mafia pairs of lovers, especially without any sort of strict theme that would prevent rediculous claims. Pretty much anything goes here as far as a claim.
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If we claim now, or claim when we're close to lynch, either way, aren't we basing the lynch off of the same things, the scumminess of two people? And you're saying that you can get better scum-tells off of one person than off of two? How?icemanE wrote:The thing that turns me off about it is that is if one lover is playing suspiciously and the other isn't, and we lynch or don't lynch based on that info, it could screw things up. We might mislynch based on the scumminess of one player, or not lynch because one player is very good. I think we should wait until put close to a lynch to claim... Make sense?
The most glorious part of the mass-claim is that it gives no way that the scum can fly under the radar like they normally do in large games. I mean, who ever lynches a lurker? If everyone is tied with eternal bonds to one other player, then nobody is excluded from the spotlight. This alone should be enough reason to claim, no? Unless if there's some really bad downside that I'm not seeing, I think mass-claiming is our best shot.-
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Here's a couple more points:
1. There is absolutely no reason why scum would lie about the identity of their lover. This isn't Polygamist.
2. Iceman, the fact that someone is your lover IS enough reason not to vote them. Voting for your lover is despicably anti-town, and without a mass-claim, some people may feel forced to do so.
3. You really think trying to keep track of 22 people (minus you and your lover) will belessconfusing than 11 pairs?
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1. Neither would, which means that why would you wait to mass-claim? And why the heck would scum lie? They would just be counter-claimed by whomever they claimed to be lovers with. That would be stupid.charter wrote:Crazy, there's absolutely no reason TOWNIES would lie about their lovers. I can certainly see scum doing it.
What is the point of your bullet 2?
3, I think it will be better keeping everyone seperate, yes.
2. Responding to part of Iceman's argument, saying that we need real reasons to defend our arguments.
3. Charter, look at the list on the front page of this thread. How many of those people do you even have any idea about their alignment? If some of them end up lurking for most of the game, you'll never have any idea about them. This game has 24 people. This is a huge game, for the type of game that it is. If you could sort those 24 people into 12 pairs, wouldn't that be so much easier?
What's easier to keep track of, 22 people, or 11 people?
For example, I have no idea about Player X's alignment. If I knew Player X was paired with *insert scummy person* then I'd already be suspicious of Player X, even if Player X hasn't even posted yet. That puts pressure on Player X to post, and not just get by the whole game by lurking.
I know that tons of people in this game would post only one-or-two liners every once in a while. They won't be lynched until middle/late game, because they aren't in the spotlight. That's really not fair, because they are just as likely to be scum as anyone else. If everyone knew everyone else's lover, we could certainly sort the game out much easier, and not have to deal with the lurker situation as badly as we would if not.
Farside also has a good point about people defending their lovers. Often, when someone defends another person, the first thought anyone thinks is "OMG SCUM!" If all lovers are known, then you don't have to worry about making slips and defending your lover. And you might actuallyvoteyour lover to stay out of the spotlight.
Another point, I have a few people I'm suspicious of. If I knew their lover, that would really help.
Oh, yeah. And you have reasoning, or no? Or are you just going to bandwagon on the more popular option?dybeck wrote:I'd be against any lover claim. I might not even participate in it if it came to it.-
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No, I'm not assuming that. But you can't get any information from a lurker. You can get information from a lurker that's paired with an active person. And if a complete lover pair is lurking, then we can just order them to post.Charter wrote:You're assuming that no one will lurk. You will get pairs that lurk, pairs that don't lurk, and pairs that are half and half.
24 people is just way too many to keep track of.
You don't need to. But, please see where I'm coming from:charter wrote:Suspecting others because of their lover is not a good idea in my opinion. I don't see why you need to find a pair of scummy people before you lynch one.
Some mafia players are extraordinarily hard to read. When you use your scumdar on them, you get a computer error. And some people will look scummy regardless of what their role is. (I believe you are one of those people, charter)
And some people are newbies, the kings and queens of "I have no idea how to read this guy." Newbies often do really really strange, scummy things, even when they're town. That's why I want to know everyone's lover. Because with 24 people in this game, there will be a bunch of people that will draw false attacks. The scum will abuse these people and attack them silly until they are lynched. If a person like that has a lover that is really pro-town, or much more predictable, it will be more difficult for the scum to lynch them.
Bull. Doesn't that apply to townies, too? Townies should be able to defend their lover without throwing off everyone's scum-o-meter. As for scum, there will still be 2 other people on the scum team that they willcharter wrote: Also, if we claim now, you leave it open for scum pairs to defend themselves to no end and it will be perfectly accepted by the town. "Oh I have to defend them, they're my lover." Yeah, I can do without that right now.notbe able to defend without looking suspicious.
Genuine scum-tells speak louder than town-tells. If one person in a lover pair is really, genuinely scummy (not stupid), and the other is pro-town, I'd be happy lynching them.Cephrir wrote:Crazy, there will still be the same number of players, only each entity will have to be judged based on two people. What if one half of a pair is obvscum and the other has been pretty protown? Sure, claiming their lover at L-1 might help them get out of it, but they won't get nearly so much pressure if we've already claimed. And the thing about claiming is; if we don't do it we can do it later, but if we do we can't go back and not. charter: town lovers are likely to defend one another too, regardless of whether we massclaim.-
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Charter just missed all my points, but oh well, because I just saw what Adel said:
I believe I know what she's talking about. I don't believe that claiming would completely invalidate it, but it certainly wouldn't help...Adel wrote:because it would invalidate the secret scumtell I have that I won't announce until we have three days on the books without a lover-pair massclaim.
I hope the other townies in this game will pick up on what he's saying and not reveal this secret scumtell.
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Yeah, that wagon did form fast. But withthirteenvotes to lynch, I don't think we have to worry about a speedlynch here. I don't even think you can say scum are on the wagon.
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AITP = Assassin in the Palace... it's a mafia variant. You can find it in Little Italy. It applies because just as in that game we have information that we can't let the scum have.OpposedForce wrote:Can you please clarify this? What does the initals AITP stand for and how can it relate to what I said asking who is "the king"
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It is possible that someone can be town and not know about it.cerebus3 wrote:
It also flies in the face of him saying that he knows what the scum tell is.Erratus Apathos wrote:
False dilemma. Adel knowing about the tell and Adel being scum are not exclusive scenarios.Crazy wrote:I severely doubt Adel is scum. That would mean this whole "secret scumtell" is bull
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Iceman, the following quotes show that you have no idea what we're talking about.
IcemanE wrote:Yes to what adel implied. I would have preferred to keep it less obvious by sort of dancing around it a bit more, but it should work regardless.
You are pretending to see this scum-tell that Adel mentioned. I don't believe town would do that.IcemanE wrote:Right - it's possible that from other similar games, she knows the tell, meaning she could be scum this game too.
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This is a useless one-liner that almost sounds like fishing for the tell..ThAdmiral wrote:I just hope adels "tell" isn't just some mathematical formula that will wind up getting her lynched.FoS ThAdmiral
The tell isn't about being experienced, Iceman. It's about being town. And no, I can't justify my statement without revealing what the tell is, but anybody that does realize what it is can easily see how your posts show that you don't know what it is.Iceman wrote:He claims I'm "pretending to see the scumtell Adel mentioned". How he can justify that statement, I don't know, as it's not really a secret scumtell, just something that might not be obvious to scum immediately - and additionally, Adel used it mostly as a reason to protest a mass lover claim - a reason I agreed with, as I disagreed with the mass-claim myself. There are several less experienced players in the game who may not realize what Adel is talking about.
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I know what it is. You don't and are pretending to. Die scum.icemanE wrote:
Ah, you see, this makes me thinkThe tell isn't about being experienced, Iceman. It's about being town. And no, I can't justify my statement without revealing what the tell is, but anybody that does realize what it is can easily see how your posts show that you don't know what it is.you'repretending to know what it is. Unless something was missing from role PM.-
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That is incredibly not true.cerebus3 wrote:I dont think crazy knows what the scum tell is. If there even is one, this game is open, so town have no information the scum don't.
This post is crap. Those two paragraphs couldn't conflict with each other more. Wouldn't you think maybe I'm thinking of the same thing you mentioned in YOUR SECOND PARAGRAPH? And you're still voting me?iceman wrote:The difference between townies and scum comes from the role PM they receive at the beginning of the game. As I said, unless the rest of the townies got some special message that I didn't, the tell is based on voting patterns.
Or, as you state, it's possible I am thinking of something different. Regardless, the tell I'm thinking of is only possible if the mass-claim doesn't happen for a few days, so I think what I've got in mind is accurate.-
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I can't explain that without revealing what the tell is, and it's better for the town if I get lynched rather than I say what it is.cerebus3 wrote:
How can town think of that and not scum again?Crazy wrote:
That is incredibly not true.cerebus3 wrote:I dont think crazy knows what the scum tell is. If there even is one, this game is open, so town have no information the scum don't.
This post is crap. Those two paragraphs couldn't conflict with each other more. Wouldn't you think maybe I'm thinking of the same thing you mentioned in YOUR SECOND PARAGRAPH? And you're still voting me?iceman wrote:The difference between townies and scum comes from the role PM they receive at the beginning of the game. As I said, unless the rest of the townies got some special message that I didn't, the tell is based on voting patterns.
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This is stupid. Look at it my way:Opposed wrote:What I see is Crazy defending adel as town as well as the scumtell. Adel isn't even confirmed town and Crazy is already assuming she is and following the scumtell. Attacking a person for a statement from someone and stating their town is pretty scummy.
-Adel knows about said scum-tell and made a point to actually bring it up.
-I have a feeling I know what she is talking about, so a secret scum-telldoesactually exist.
The only way that Adel is scum is the following:
Adel made up the fact that there is a secret-scumtell and somehow got lucky since there actuallyisone.
I am about 90% sure Adel is town. I am about equally sure Iceman is scum. This post I quoted a second ago really settles it:
Here he says that he has an idea what we're talking about, correct? Yet he's still voting me for pretending that this scum-tell exists. If heIceman wrote:Or, as you state, it's possible I am thinking of something different. Regardless, the tell I'm thinking of is only possible if the mass-claim doesn't happen for a few days, so I think what I've got in mind is accurate.reallyhas this idea that he states, why would he still be voting me?
Defending someone for a good reason is not scummy. Attacking someone for a good reason is not scummy. You must see Iceman's hypocrisy there. Even if you don't see the tell, you should be able to see that.
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So you're saying pushing for a lynch is scummy?charter wrote:
This leads me to think two things. One you are scum, and two, you know Iceman to be town.Crazy wrote:
Hmm, good point. Either way Iceman is probably scum, though...cerebus3 wrote:Or adel is making it up completely, and you are running with it to buddy up to her.
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I am pushing for Iceman's lynch. That is why you are voting me. Yet, you say pushing for a lynch is not scummy. Correct me where I'm wrong, please.charter wrote:
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He's saying that he might actually see what I'm talking about.cerebus3 wrote:
No.Crazy wrote:
Hmm, good point. Either way Iceman is probably scum, though, for voting mecerebus3 wrote:Or adel is making it up completely, and you are running with it to buddy up to her.whilesaying he *might* see this scum-tell.
Right?
He is voting me because he thinks I'm making up all this garbage about a scum-tell.
Contradiction, much?
Now you explain your defense of Iceman.
Okay, why are you voting me, then?charter wrote:You're wrong when you tell me why I'm voting you.
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Aww, crap, Panda's in this game.
PANDA, IT IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY TOWNIES WOULD KNOW!!! I can't say anything more without revealing what it is. Not all townies might catch it, but THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT SCUM WOULD KNOW WHAT IT IS.Panda wrote:This scumtell discussion is just silly. Does knowing the scumtell make you less scummy? I don't know what it is, does that mean I'm scum? We have two people arguing that they know what the scumtell is and that the other is pretending to know, but they can't say it or it ruins it, so they can't prove if they know it or not. You're not getting anywhere.
THE SCUMTELL IS SOMETHING ONLY TOWNIES WOULD KNOW. Originally, I didn't see how a mass-claim would hurt the scum-tell; in fact, it doesn't hurt it directly, but now I realize that some stupid townies could mess it up if we had the mass-claim.Panda wrote: Crazy, how are you so sure that Adel is town? There are two scum factions. It's not possible for her to be in one and try to eliminate the other? How do you go from pushing for massclaim, then when Adel mentions the words "secret scumtell", you immediately know what she's talking about and go along with her?-
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Holy crap, you mean I didn't know what you were talking about? Okay, so now I know nothing about your alignment.Adel wrote:Knowing a scumtell has nothing to do with alignment.
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"Scum-tell" is not an accurate word for what I have. It's more like this is the AITP and I know the identity of the king and nobody else does.
Keep me alive until Day 3/4 and you will see what I thought Adel's scum-tell was.You have nothing to losebecause in fact, if I am full of crap, then you'll have no trouble lynching me.-
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I think the people that voted me before my "tell" was revealed should reconsider, and say if their opinions on me have changed or not.
As for the two people that voted me since then:
@EA - I didn't exactly reveal what it was in that post. The actual scumtell was that everyone could post all their daytalk on Day 3/4. That post was just a hint so townies would get what I was saying.
@sekinj - Umm... did you read? I obviously was talking aboutsomething[/b], so I wasn't "full of bull" as you said. This post is so suspicious to me that I'llUnvote, Vote Sekinj-
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WWB's FoS on me was speculation. I can't respond to that.neko wrote:So, I don't like the post-explanation votes either, but I'd like to know, Crazy, are you aware that pwnz also voted you (for no reason whatsoever), and that Walt gave you a FOS?
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Yes, I got it wrong, but Iceman is living about 3 days in the past.sekinj wrote:
I don't think you need to be accusing other people of not reading. You are the one who thought you knew all about Adel's scumtell, but got it wrong.Crazy wrote:Iceman, you're full of crap. Those posts you quoted WERE BEFORE MY SCUMTELL WAS REVEALED!
And I unvoted you BECAUSE MY SCUMTELL WAS REVEALED AS CRAP!
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Your posts showed that you weren't talking about the daytalk forum, yet you were pretending to see a secret tell.icemanE wrote:
So your entire premise for voting me was that your scumtell was valid? That somehow made you sure I was scum? And since your scumtell was proven worthless, that somehow dissuaded you from voting me?crazy wrote: Iceman, you're full of crap. Those posts you quoted WERE BEFORE MY SCUMTELL WAS REVEALED!
And I unvoted you BECAUSE MY SCUMTELL WAS REVEALED AS CRAP!
That doesn't add up.
I didn't know that there was another secret tell in this game, as Adel mentioned.
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Paraphrase of me & Farside's daytalk:
Crazy: I comment that daytalking is really cool and unexpected, and I say hello to farside.
Farside: She says the last lover-type game she was in didn't have daytalk. She agrees that daytalking is cool. Says that a mass-claim worked in the last lover-type game she was in.
Crazy: I say that I'm surprised that the mass-claim idea isn't well-liked on the thread, and that I really don't see anything wrong with it.
Farside: Agrees. Mentions case that she mentioned in her post #2.
Crazy: Said what I thought Adel's scumtell was. You know, the daytalk thingy.
Farside: Says that that makes sense, and makes a meta-comment that I don't understand.
Crazy: I name my top suspects at that time: Charter, OF, and Iceman
Crazy: I comment that I am an incredibly stupid for not reading the mod's original post mentioning the daytalk.-
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I've said my defense, I believe. Here it is again:pwnz wrote:
If you are truly town, Crazy, I suggest you try to act like it. Defend yourself instead of taking shots at icemanE. As a matter of fact, just forget about what icemanE is saying alltogether and defend yourself with some sort of clear and consise thought process. If you want to help us and you are truly town, you wouldn't be giving up so easily.Crazy wrote:Unvote
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Lynch me. When I turn up as town, please look at the people who are on my bandwagon with craplogic.
1. When Adel referred to her secret-scumtell, I thought she was talking about the daytalk. I didn't notice that the mod had changed the first post.
2. When I first accused Iceman, that was because he was mentioning that he saw a scum-tell but his posts made it obvious that he wasn't talking about daytalk.
3. When Adel voted me, I realized that Adel must have been talking about something other than daytalk. So I figure maybe Iceman picked that up, too, so that's why I unvoted him.
4. Now people are still saying that I am completely full of crap, and that I made up this scum-tell, when obviously I didn't.-
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Farside, you're mistaken here. This isn't like Polygamist. If one of the scum dies, then only his/her lover dies, not the whole scum-team.
And charter, if every point that started with "I don't see why scum would..." was WIFOM, then we'd never get anywhere in any game.
The point is, I don't see how a mass-claim or no mass-claim in this type of game can really affect scum that much, so certainly a scum isn't going to resort to crap logic to make it happen or not happen. So, if farside was using crap logic, I'm sure it was due to a mistake.
Besides, you never even showed how farside's logic was crappy in the first place.-
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