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Rereading, past the random stage where multiple people dice-failed.
I agree with a claim. I don't see anything anti-town that could happen from it.
Adel's announcement of a "Super secret scum tell" I do not like. Its basically an early way of trying to ensure she lives till D3.
What bothers me more is dybeck's utter refusal to be able to agree with a town decision.
Crazy talking about the secret scum tell makes me feel he is just saying he is in on it to back down from his position, which is valid if he believes Adel.
Crazy, if you were lying about seeing the scum tell, say now. If you aren't, I'm willing to admit my original read of the Adel post was wrong as well as my desire to mass claim and wait.
Alabaska def jumped the gun on the OF wagon. If there were a couple more pages/vote of it I would agree.
iceman's RR vote is not out of character. And dumb.
Disagree with Adel's promotion of policy lynching, esp 128.
Pwnz's 152 = face + palm.
OF's 169 is a definite attempt to flop without people paying attention.FOS OF.
I slightly disagree with Adel's 191. Early game "sure" reads are possible.
Also, odd scenario where adel = scum is she told her group about the tell pre-game, and it just wrecks the other group when its revealed. This seems beyond irrel though.\
Crazy at the end of Pg. 8 is just...... wrong. See what I said about Adel at the start of this.
201 is def right, and that tell borderlines on rule breaking under PM quoting. Adel just BSing is definitely possible, but IDK.
Adel's 212 =
Pwnz is capable of more valid play then this. I know it.
Logic behind farsides 235 would be nice.
Crazy's 255= appeal to emotion by far. Self vote doesn't help either.
288 = classic buddying w/ attacker.
Adel's 180 on the wagon on pg 13 is noteworthy.
I'll just post this to make it not too big for now. More later possibly.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Are you complaining about having extra information about my early game reads?I completely understand that you can't immediately catch up, take your time. Thing is, nothing can be gained from your post since like 90% of it has already become irrelevant, why don't you wait with posting thouthts until you're finished reading through?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Umm, why does that matter? Everything I think is relevant will be there.armlx, what worries me is that any useful info in these reread posts will go to waste because no one's gonna bother paying attention to page 8 relevant opinions. I'd be completely ok with this if you'll do a full recap of everything you still think is relevant once you're finished.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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If I feel something became irrelevant, a later point of mine should make that clear. I still don't see why you are adverse to more information/input from me.'Cause that way we won't have to sort through all the things you thought were relevant on page 8 and aren't anymore.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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This is exactly what is confusing me, though I'm only 20ish pages in.Why can a wagon not be restarted? Once a wagon dies, that person is lynch-immune? I agree that from what I skimmed of OF's post, it seemed like he was making quite a bit of assumptions, but I don't see how trying to start a wagon again is scummy in itself, especially when people only got off Crazy's wagon to pursue other's that were more scummy.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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But the first wagon almost resulted in a lynch, and only barely fizzled. How is the evidence suddenly irrel.It's not that he was trying to start a wagon again, it's just the fact he was using almost entirely the same evidence as from the original wagon - most of which can be fairly dismissed as already having been explained away, or just plain bullcrap.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Nice sigable misquote Adel (BM needs a leash)
HP's jump to FS in 398 is disconcerting.
Iceman's 407 is definitely deflection.
Don't understand what happened to the Crazy wagon.
The whole PM count thing catch was nice. As much as I hate using PM stuff to catch people, it was nicely done.
Don't like this at ALL.RR wrote: Firestarter asking for replacement looks like scum giving up, a townie's more likely to hang back and defend himself imo.
Admiral's 470 gives the feel of someone trying to fit in with the crowd.
493: Nice excuses.....
HP's 498, nice back off timing.....
HP's 523: Nice defense......
Dybeck's 624 is odd given the facts of the situation.
sekinj's active lurking its def notable.
Dybeck's 531 reeks of desperate. Crazy's 530 is much more accurate.
Adel's sudden DBE push is a WTF.
Adel wanting to direst lynches towards mafia is bizarre to me, esp. when Dybeck was so obv scum and her later statement about 4 being easier to catch then 2.
Crazy's charter vote = nice OMGUS
Ceph is right about the OF case.
ORLY? My suspicion Adel is trying to coast through on a gambit here increased 10 fold. Not near a vote, but I'm back to considering it.Anyhow, I've lost some faith in my scumtell since I was typing out a post and almost hit "submit" before I noticed that it was full of the type of behavor my scumtell depended upon identifying in scum.
I just realized Crazy is confirmed town now from the whole PM debacle.
I think Cephrir + Charter is a town pair. Both have been reasonable all game.
Neko + sekinj = useless so far.
ThAd + DBE = possible scum. Lurks + the comments I pointed out earlier of ThAds
kloud + alabaska = possible scum. The whole Dybeck thing
Crazy's scum list looks whack to the max.
Cerb + HP = possible scum, if only from HP's actions.
Nice case on pwnz from kloud [/sarcasm]
WWB + RR = mild scummy. Mainly due to RR's not wanting me to post stuff, and WWB's scum list which was Crazier then Crazy's.
Ok, so top scum suspects.
kloud + alabaska
HP + Cerb
----gap 1----
ThAd + DBE
----Gap 2-----
RR + WWB
Vote Kloud
The whole dybeck lynch diversion thing was a WTF beyond belief in context of them being scum.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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We've already had this convo, I'm saying the same things I said then. You are calling it a misrep now?
Nice misrep. Never said I don't want you to post stuff, only that the method you use to tell us your thoughts is highly ineffiecient since you comment so much on things that have since become irrelevant that nobody's likely to reread everything you refer to just to check if any of them still has merit. Therefore, flooding us with info like that results in us being less likely to figure out what you actually think. You should filter through all that stuff and tell us what's still relevant to you, rather than expect every player in the game to check for himself in order to see if he agrees with you.
And I've also explained why filtering is irre.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Reading is tech. He did at the end of last page.Darox, I'd appreciate it if you put vour vote down, even if you only give a concise reasoning behind it. with 61 hours left, there is on reason for anyone to not be voting.
HP's voting Alabaska w/o reasoning makes me very wary.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Or they just let the OF wagon chill.
Anyone who places a vote on any of those three wagons from now to deadline is going to have to have a good explanation for it. I created a scenario where any last minute votes will have consequences. I am making last minute votes more accountable.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Except its easy to spot mafia connections with more alive as well.Say HP and cerebus are lynched right now. If they are werewolf, great. But we'll be no closer to finding mafia. Mafia also wield more power. They hold more votes among them. Lynching the final werewolf pair pales in comparison to lynching mafia who are able to consolidate their votes.
Really, I don't think we should be gunning for specific scum groups. Just lynching scum is enough when there's no NK's
HP's actions are still far scummier then ThAd's IMO in the context of neither having a revealed alignment.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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