Open 86 - Lovers Multiball (Game Over)

armlx · Post Post #563 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:57 am

Hi, see sig. Will be back to reread and what not by Tuesday.

armlx · Post Post #856 (isolation #1) » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:57 am

Blah, forgot to put the game on my watched topics list. I'll see what I can reread today, but I can't promise anything major till Sunday, possibly Monday.

armlx · Post Post #899 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:57 am

Reading up later tonight.

armlx · Post Post #904 (isolation #3) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:52 pm

Rereading, past the random stage where multiple people dice-failed.

I agree with a claim. I don't see anything anti-town that could happen from it.

Adel's announcement of a "Super secret scum tell" I do not like. Its basically an early way of trying to ensure she lives till D3.

What bothers me more is dybeck's utter refusal to be able to agree with a town decision.

Crazy talking about the secret scum tell makes me feel he is just saying he is in on it to back down from his position, which is valid if he believes Adel.

Crazy, if you were lying about seeing the scum tell, say now. If you aren't, I'm willing to admit my original read of the Adel post was wrong as well as my desire to mass claim and wait.

Alabaska def jumped the gun on the OF wagon. If there were a couple more pages/vote of it I would agree.

iceman's RR vote is not out of character. And dumb.

Disagree with Adel's promotion of policy lynching, esp 128.

Pwnz's 152 = face + palm.

OF's 169 is a definite attempt to flop without people paying attention.

FOS OF

.

I slightly disagree with Adel's 191. Early game "sure" reads are possible.

Also, odd scenario where adel = scum is she told her group about the tell pre-game, and it just wrecks the other group when its revealed. This seems beyond irrel though.\

Crazy at the end of Pg. 8 is just...... wrong. See what I said about Adel at the start of this.

201 is def right, and that tell borderlines on rule breaking under PM quoting. Adel just BSing is definitely possible, but IDK.

Adel's 212 =

Pwnz is capable of more valid play then this. I know it.

Logic behind farsides 235 would be nice.

Crazy's 255= appeal to emotion by far. Self vote doesn't help either.

288 = classic buddying w/ attacker.

Adel's 180 on the wagon on pg 13 is noteworthy.

I'll just post this to make it not too big for now. More later possibly.

armlx · Post Post #910 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:17 am

RR: I'm progressing through the game. I only got to page 14.

armlx · Post Post #913 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:59 am

Moving into college is going to interfere with my rereading tonight or tomorrow.

armlx · Post Post #915 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:10 am

I completely understand that you can't immediately catch up, take your time. Thing is, nothing can be gained from your post since like 90% of it has already become irrelevant, why don't you wait with posting thouthts until you're finished reading through?

Are you complaining about having extra information about my early game reads?

armlx · Post Post #917 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:23 am

So lets say I read, make a post. Then 10 pages after, what I said turns out to have become something scummy. Sounds like a good thing I posted chunk by chunk, amirite?

armlx · Post Post #936 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:42 am

armlx, what worries me is that any useful info in these reread posts will go to waste because no one's gonna bother paying attention to page 8 relevant opinions. I'd be completely ok with this if you'll do a full recap of everything you still think is relevant once you're finished.

Umm, why does that matter? Everything I think is relevant will be there.

armlx · Post Post #940 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:53 pm

'Cause that way we won't have to sort through all the things you thought were relevant on page 8 and aren't anymore.

If I feel something became irrelevant, a later point of mine should make that clear. I still don't see why you are adverse to more information/input from me.

armlx · Post Post #959 (isolation #10) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:26 am

Why can a wagon not be restarted? Once a wagon dies, that person is lynch-immune? I agree that from what I skimmed of OF's post, it seemed like he was making quite a bit of assumptions, but I don't see how trying to start a wagon again is scummy in itself, especially when people only got off Crazy's wagon to pursue other's that were more scummy.

This is exactly what is confusing me, though I'm only 20ish pages in.

armlx · Post Post #961 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:36 am

It's not that he was trying to start a wagon again, it's just the fact he was using almost entirely the same evidence as from the original wagon - most of which can be fairly dismissed as already having been explained away, or just plain bullcrap.

But the first wagon almost resulted in a lynch, and only barely fizzled. How is the evidence suddenly irrel.

armlx · Post Post #963 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:23 am

Maybe you'll find that out if you keep reading. Also, it's not like you replaced in recently. You should have been keeping up with the game for a while now.

Moving into college is going to interfere with my rereading tonight or tomorrow.

armlx · Post Post #966 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:03 am

Great. I hope it interfers with you posting irrelevant content as well.

armlx · Post Post #970 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:26 am

Why are you so adverse to having him post early game content? When you build a case on someone, do you skip over all Day 1 posts?

This is still my stance towards those criticizing me for my recent posts.

armlx · Post Post #972 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:35 am

Where did you come from? I'm confused.

armlx · Post Post #980 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:09 am

BM, I see what you did there.

armlx · Post Post #988 (isolation #17) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:23 am

WHERE'S MA LOVER!?

Don't you have a role PM?

armlx · Post Post #994 (isolation #18) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:56 pm

Adel, would you mind if I referenced that post in future games when this scenario pops up again?

armlx · Post Post #996 (isolation #19) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:04 pm

Nice sigable misquote Adel (BM needs a leash)

HP's jump to FS in 398 is disconcerting.

Iceman's 407 is definitely deflection.

Don't understand what happened to the Crazy wagon.

The whole PM count thing catch was nice. As much as I hate using PM stuff to catch people, it was nicely done.

RR wrote: Firestarter asking for replacement looks like scum giving up, a townie's more likely to hang back and defend himself imo.

Don't like this at ALL.

Admiral's 470 gives the feel of someone trying to fit in with the crowd.

493: Nice excuses.....

HP's 498, nice back off timing.....

HP's 523: Nice defense......

Dybeck's 624 is odd given the facts of the situation.

sekinj's active lurking its def notable.

Dybeck's 531 reeks of desperate. Crazy's 530 is much more accurate.

Adel's sudden DBE push is a WTF.

Adel wanting to direst lynches towards mafia is bizarre to me, esp. when Dybeck was so obv scum and her later statement about 4 being easier to catch then 2.

Crazy's charter vote = nice OMGUS

Ceph is right about the OF case.

Anyhow, I've lost some faith in my scumtell since I was typing out a post and almost hit "submit" before I noticed that it was full of the type of behavor my scumtell depended upon identifying in scum.

ORLY? My suspicion Adel is trying to coast through on a gambit here increased 10 fold. Not near a vote, but I'm back to considering it.

I just realized Crazy is confirmed town now from the whole PM debacle.

I think Cephrir + Charter is a town pair. Both have been reasonable all game.

Neko + sekinj = useless so far.

ThAd + DBE = possible scum. Lurks + the comments I pointed out earlier of ThAds

kloud + alabaska = possible scum. The whole Dybeck thing

Crazy's scum list looks whack to the max.

Cerb + HP = possible scum, if only from HP's actions.

Nice case on pwnz from kloud [/sarcasm]

WWB + RR = mild scummy. Mainly due to RR's not wanting me to post stuff, and WWB's scum list which was Crazier then Crazy's.

Ok, so top scum suspects.

kloud + alabaska
HP + Cerb
----gap 1----
ThAd + DBE
----Gap 2-----
RR + WWB

Vote Kloud

The whole dybeck lynch diversion thing was a WTF beyond belief in context of them being scum.

armlx · Post Post #1001 (isolation #20) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:55 pm

Nice misrep. Never said I don't want you to post stuff, only that the method you use to tell us your thoughts is highly ineffiecient since you comment so much on things that have since become irrelevant that nobody's likely to reread everything you refer to just to check if any of them still has merit. Therefore, flooding us with info like that results in us being less likely to figure out what you actually think. You should filter through all that stuff and tell us what's still relevant to you, rather than expect every player in the game to check for himself in order to see if he agrees with you.

We've already had this convo, I'm saying the same things I said then. You are calling it a misrep now?

And I've also explained why filtering is irre.

armlx · Post Post #1004 (isolation #21) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:36 pm

@armix: funny how I never showed up in your comments until I criticized you.

You weren't being dumb and not posting content till a while after pg 12, where the first post cut off. you didn't make any comments that were worth mentioning.

armlx · Post Post #1009 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:02 pm

What I don't like is that OpposedForce is going to be lynched apparently because there is no one better and that he suspects Crazy, who has said some pretty suspicious things throughout the game.

This is true.

armlx · Post Post #1034 (isolation #23) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:35 am

Darox, I'd appreciate it if you put vour vote down, even if you only give a concise reasoning behind it. with 61 hours left, there is on reason for anyone to not be voting.

Reading is tech. He did at the end of last page.

HP's voting Alabaska w/o reasoning makes me very wary.

armlx · Post Post #1037 (isolation #24) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:22 am

I like having three wagons at three votes.

I don't get it.

armlx · Post Post #1039 (isolation #25) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:06 am

"I like creating a deadlock with so little time till deadline!"

Yeah, that was why I don't get it.

armlx · Post Post #1042 (isolation #26) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:09 am

Actually what she just did was stop OF from being the deadline lynch.

That's interesting to consider, though I don't really think OF is scum.

armlx · Post Post #1045 (isolation #27) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:29 am

Anyone who places a vote on any of those three wagons from now to deadline is going to have to have a good explanation for it. I created a scenario where any last minute votes will have consequences. I am making last minute votes more accountable.

Or they just let the OF wagon chill.

armlx · Post Post #1048 (isolation #28) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:35 am

Can we play "lynch the scummiest person" tomorrow?

Fixed. If it happens to be a lurker, we both win.

armlx · Post Post #1051 (isolation #29) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:36 am

I knew there was some reason it didn't work......

armlx · Post Post #1054 (isolation #30) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:45 am

Would me unvoting put kloud as still the deadline lynch?

armlx · Post Post #1056 (isolation #31) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:48 am

Unvote

then. I like what Adel says here.

armlx · Post Post #1068 (isolation #32) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:06 pm

Crazy's scum finding logic has been flawed at best, despite his confirmedness.

armlx · Post Post #1107 (isolation #33) » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:22 pm

Darox's post on KoC and Crazy is pretty much where I'm at on them.

Vote Kloud

. Now that it doesn't mess up the balance thing, I still think Dybeck was uber scummy.

armlx · Post Post #1138 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:48 pm

I think a HP/Cerb wagon would be good next. Then see what happens.

armlx · Post Post #1140 (isolation #35) » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:59 pm

I've read a ton of games, and it never ceases to amaze me how often the #2 wagon (which is typically abandoned the next day) turns out to have been on scum.

Its usually more common when the #2 wagon is smaller by a fair amount, but definite QFT.

armlx · Post Post #1142 (isolation #36) » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:54 pm

Vote HP

Lets see where this goes.

armlx · Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:33 am

Has anyone but RR posted a case on cerebus/Harvey?

I have a semi-case based up of notable points in my summary, but I don't think anyone else has posted a full one.

armlx · Post Post #1172 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:02 pm

Just posting to say I am way to tired to comprehend what just happened in this game tonight.

armlx · Post Post #1176 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:17 pm

BM voting the confirmed townie is.....

HP supporting it evokes a similar response.

armlx · Post Post #1188 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:57 am

Armix, I didn't catch this the first time around or think much of it, but how is crazy confirmed town?

Reread how he caught icemanE.

armlx · Post Post #1206 (isolation #41) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:00 am

I'm posting this in all my games. My computer power cord just broke again, same issue as last time. I'm going to be on LA for a week or two while I wait for a new one to arrive.

armlx · Post Post #1223 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:46 pm

harvey's recent comments (post 1213) make me glad of where my vote is. Picking random posts without even using reference numbers just isn't good play...

This, and voting confirmed town isn't good either.

armlx · Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:39 am

I like where this is going. Not much to say on specific posts since my last one that hasn't already been said.

armlx · Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:05 pm

SP, do you not think HP has been scummy?

armlx · Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:13 pm

He has, and I still think he's a werewolf. But that doesn't change the fact that there are still two mafia out there and I'm happy to pursue them as well.

You mean 4 mafia?

Also, if you think he is scum, why is voting him bad?

armlx · Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:21 pm

I meant why aren't you voting HP. I don't understand what your vote is trying to accomplish right now.

armlx · Post Post #1294 (isolation #47) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:31 pm

Say HP and cerebus are lynched right now. If they are werewolf, great. But we'll be no closer to finding mafia. Mafia also wield more power. They hold more votes among them. Lynching the final werewolf pair pales in comparison to lynching mafia who are able to consolidate their votes.

Except its easy to spot mafia connections with more alive as well.

Really, I don't think we should be gunning for specific scum groups. Just lynching scum is enough when there's no NK's

HP's actions are still far scummier then ThAd's IMO in the context of neither having a revealed alignment.

armlx · Post Post #1308 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:45 am

Now can somebody tell me why Crazy isn't dead yet? 0.o

He's confirmed town.

armlx · Post Post #1317 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:59 am

No, really. This isn't the time for joking around now buddy. Does anyone have anything relevant to add before we string him up?

How does what he did NOT show he is town??

armlx · Post Post #1352 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:53 am

I'm interested in where this goes. RR's trying to get me to post less info on people definitely wasn't the towniest thing all game. He's still not top of the list though (I don't put as much faith in reading that as bussing as you do).

armlx · Post Post #1356 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:15 am

DGB = TS.

armlx · Post Post #1364 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:26 am

I don't like how Adel said this

The faster you are the more honest and townie you will appear.

Why include that?

armlx · Post Post #1367 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:30 am

Trust me there's a plan.

I assumed so, I just felt I would put that out there right now.

armlx · Post Post #1395 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:22 pm

I don't really understand most, if any, of walt's last posts.

armlx · Post Post #1406 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:01 am

RR's last post I don't get....

HP still hasn't explained any of his actions and just made appeals to emotion.

armlx · Post Post #1412 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:10 pm

I won't be able to post much the next 72 hours, just a heads up to everyone + the mod.

armlx · Post Post #1426 (isolation #57) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:24 am

The way Harvey continues to bluntly deny the case on him makes me super happy with his lynch.

This.

armlx · Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:29 am

KoC, I'm pretty sure ThAdmiral is still being questioned, just next in line to RR.

armlx · Post Post #1445 (isolation #59) » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:44 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:Still waiting on a response from HarveyPew.

This. Or a lynch on him.

armlx · Post Post #1471 (isolation #60) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:31 am

I'll be on again before deadline but have yet to see a compelling reason not to vote for Harvey Pew.

This.

armlx · Post Post #1473 (isolation #61) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:56 am

I have no clue what Armix means as usual?

Its pretty obvious what I mean. I'm on right now, should be online again tomorrow, and see no reason to move my vote.

armlx · Post Post #1476 (isolation #62) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:58 am

SP is my lover.

I really don't see how you don't understand what I'm saying.

1. I am online right now.
2. I'm pretty sure I will be online again before the deadline.
3. I'm not compelled to move my vote form HP to elsewhere.

armlx · Post Post #1478 (isolation #63) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:04 am

I'm just completely befuddle by what you are trying to say/do here Walt.....

armlx · Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:31 am

Walt, the main issue is HP's behavior towards FS. The rest is how he has really failed to make any adequate defense, resorting to appeal to emotion and other techniques.

armlx · Post Post #1509 (isolation #65) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:17 am

I'm not surprised at all....

armlx · Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:20 am

Charter has more or less been trying to push random wagons out of nowhere. I do not like that.

armlx · Post Post #1522 (isolation #67) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:05 pm

It isn't a random wagon armlx, for shame. I was until recently voting for his lover, so it is a perfectly justified wagon.

Uhh, yeah. Sorry.

Vote Charter

anyways. The constant Crazy is scum push is dumb on top of this.

armlx · Post Post #1531 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:58 am

I'll have a similar rankings list up with reasons some time today.

armlx · Post Post #1533 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:27 am

BM seems to just be doing the "Hehehe I didn't read hehehe" thing where he just says random stuff not based on any real actions before when he replaced in. Its pretty much a null tell, as both scum and town can be equally lazy.

I also missed the Darox "slip". Where was it?

armlx · Post Post #1536 (isolation #70) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:53 am

Darox wrote:Opposed Force hasn't been on the site since before day 2 ended and is being replaced.

I can't account for Raging Rabbits voting habits.

This post. Can't say I'm buying it as being a strong slip.

armlx · Post Post #1538 (isolation #71) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:07 am

Him saying RR's voting habits are suspect?

armlx · Post Post #1540 (isolation #72) » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:15 am

You aren't seeing that as him defending RR? Why would he defend someone that isn't his lover?

I'm not seeing it as a real defense, no. And I can think of plenty of reasons for defending people who aren't your lover, like thinking they are town.

armlx · Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:00 am

Armix insistence that crazy is confirmed town is questionable when most of the Town does not agree with him.

Actually, I'm pretty sure its a vocal minority who doesn't agree.

armlx · Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:39 pm

How about we have a vote? Who believes crazy is confirmed town?

I can agree here.

Confirmed- armlx
Unconfirmed- Walt, BM

Add your vote as necessary, Crazy + KoC do not count.

For clairification - The daytalk would be a quick rundown which includes post number, author, date, time, and a paraphrased version of each post.

I agree with this, assuming the mod doesn't object to any of the specifics.

armlx · Post Post #1576 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:20 pm

I think you are miscategorizing those who believe he is town but not "confirmed 100%". That's definitely closer to my camp then the one of you + BM who are legitimately considering voting him.

armlx · Post Post #1588 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:12 am

I think there are several here who feel the same as I do about Sekinji/Neko, that they are confirmed townies or whatever everyone wants to call them.

Elaborate plz.

armlx · Post Post #1592 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:14 am

Crazy, its better we waited.

armlx · Post Post #1593 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:15 am

EBWODP: To clarify, its better we do a claim today then 3 days ago.

armlx · Post Post #1597 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:24 am

RR, I'm just waiting on mod confirmation as to which of those things are/aren't acceptable.

The bottom line, by your own definition means he is NOT "confirmed town", people think he's mostly town. There is a chance he could be scum, so giving him a free pass until the end of the game is a mistake.

My definition is confirmed town based on the whole tell thing. Other people's is probably town, but until they elaborated I counted them in the confirmed pile. Its still pretty close, and far from you + BM.

armlx · Post Post #1599 (isolation #80) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:44 am

This argument on Crazy is getting really redundant, what exactly are you guys trying to achieve? Everyone thinks he's town and he isn't getting lynched anytime soon, so I don't see the point in arguing semantics for so very long.

I realize this. Apparently Walt thinks the fact I'm calling him 100% confirmed as opposed to 90% town is a huge massive issue.

armlx · Post Post #1607 (isolation #81) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:01 am

So, should first be random?

armlx · Post Post #1612 (isolation #82) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:34 am

armlx · Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:20 am

I say someone who is currently suspect goes first then popcorns.

armlx · Post Post #1624 (isolation #84) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:05 pm

08-03-2008 10:28 PM ET Panda: Hi

09-02-2008 10:35 PM ET Armlx: We should probably use this.

09-03-2008 08:09 AM ET Panda: I'm pretty sure HP + cere are the other werewolf pair. I'm going to look into Cephrir + Charter and Sek + Neko pairs as well.

09-08-2008 03:47 AM ET Armlx: Why those pairings?

09-08-2008 06:30 AM ET Panda: Their Day 2 votes on HP seem a bit off to me. Rereads are gonna have to wait. Don't have much free time.

09-08-2008 11:47 PM ET Armlx: Fair nuff.

09-09-2008 04:11 AM ET Panda: I think trying to find mafia now would be beneficial since we would have more information to work with later. I still don't have much of a read on Th+DBE. And it would at least get them to talk more.

09-16-2008 12:46 PM ET Panda: You really that sure about Crazy being town. His play outside the PM tell thing has been really scummy. I'm also leaning town on RR and WWB for what its worth.

09-16-2008 4:20PM ET Armlx: I'm as sure on Crazy as I can be in this set up.

armlx · Post Post #1625 (isolation #85) » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:06 pm

Vote stands for lack of D/T

armlx · Post Post #1632 (isolation #86) » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:18 am

@Armix & Sleepy Panda - Can you please post all the DT before Armix replaced into the game.

There was none. pacman didn't respond to Panda's "Hi" post.

armlx · Post Post #1633 (isolation #87) » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:19 am

08-03-2008 10:28 PM ET Panda: Hi

09-02-2008 10:35 PM ET Armlx: We should probably use this.

To clarify, check the time stamps.

armlx · Post Post #1635 (isolation #88) » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:35 am

Really? Blimey, pacman must have been the worst lover ever. No sweet-talk, just the rough stuff.

Even worse, just straight up nothing.

armlx · Post Post #1650 (isolation #89) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:08 am

ClockworkRuse wrote:
Raging Rabbit wrote:Clockwork, could you take a break from rereading and paraphrase your daytalk?
I'd really rather finish reading.

Strong FOS CWR

armlx · Post Post #1654 (isolation #90) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:28 am

Please tell me how it benefits the town for me not to have read the game thoroughly and follow my lover blindly? To me Reading > Daytalk right now, until I get caught up.

It helps the town to force you to post a day talk before you have time to fabricate one if you are scum.

armlx · Post Post #1657 (isolation #91) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:47 am

See above post. Stalling on a forced/mass claim in a normal game is in my top 5 best scum tells, and it definitely applies to the day talk here.

armlx · Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:36 am

KoC, what do you think about Charter refusing to give times?

armlx · Post Post #1665 (isolation #93) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:18 pm

I think there's prolly one or two extra time's in Ceph's post cause I think I didn't include a few off topic posts.

Vote stands.

armlx · Post Post #1668 (isolation #94) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:33 pm

you have nonstop attacked the confirmed townie.

armlx · Post Post #1670 (isolation #95) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:12 pm

Lulz, the OMGUS. It makes my eyes bleed.

armlx · Post Post #1671 (isolation #96) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:13 pm

EBWODP: Also, your last post implies that I am scum trying to make a townie think I am also town. Except you have attacked Crazy all game and don't think he is town, right?

armlx · Post Post #1674 (isolation #97) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:39 pm

Buddying usually implies the party being buddied to is town.

armlx · Post Post #1676 (isolation #98) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:51 pm

So you're admitting you know Crazy is scum then?

Lol, nice try to twist my words. Please read my first post on the issue and try again.

armlx · Post Post #1679 (isolation #99) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:37 pm

Wow, and you completely try to change the subject.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:20 am

Worried? Nothing's stopping you from continuing your line of questioning (or whatever it is). I think it's done, and I don't see any reason not to enlighten everyone else with that.

And again, you try to deflect attention. First to me, then to the mafia vs. werewolf lynch issue, and again to me.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:48 pm

Additionally, you'll notice how terrible bussing is in this setup.

How is it more terrible then, say, in a normal game?

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:49 pm

@Armix, same question? If so what was the day and time?

8-3, 9:59 PM EST.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:47 pm

1) Attacking confirmed townies all game.

2) Not posting D/T

3) Being against the claim.

4) Trying to deflect when you come under suspicion for the above 3 issues.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:48 pm

And I haven't quashed discussion about anything, I'm merely showing how you are trying to divert the conversation from the issues with you without actually answering to them.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:51 pm

How are we suppossed to figure out which post goes to what time if you omitted post? If it is not contrived, why not put it together to so there is no confussion on the matter?

That's pretty much the issue.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:15 pm

I wasn't planning on including destructor's post since I figured everyone got it,

This. I just thought about posting the info that would be relevant to check for faking AKA the stuff that people actually interacted to post.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:19 pm

Serve their means? You "omitted" posts, didn't post times....

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:25 pm

Yeah, now that you didn't do it the first time and got called out on it and have time to fabricate it, you would be attacked for it.

The reasons I stated do mean you are scum. They indicate your day talk was fabricated.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:16 pm

What I was saying is me reposting it won't matter because some people have already convinced themselves that I'm scum

No, it won't matter as you should have done it the first time if you actually were town and had a legit day talk.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:18 pm

Also, as a note, BM, CWR, and DGB have posted outside of this thread since they were last asked to post their info.

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:23 pm

I know. Suddenly, pointing out and attacking actually scummy things people are doing, like avoiding the thread during a mass claim and making BS claims, is a scum tell!

armlx · Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:43 pm

armlx, what will be your excuse when I flip town? Going to just chalk it up to lazy townies or what? Let me in on the secret.

If you flip town, you would be an idiot for not claiming when and what you were supposed to. No pro-town player should ever do that, especially when there is not a massive potential loss associated with it.

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:32 am

THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY DAYTALK AND ICEMANS

Why is that remotely relevant in the context of what we are talking about?

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:25 am

I lol'ed.

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:09 am

Oh, look at what I found, armlx wasn't on icemans wagon, and was on Kloud's and HP's

pacman and myself weren't active during the time icemanE was lynched.

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:29 am

You have the same role, and therefore the same motives as they did. It doesn't explain away you're being way too terrible in this game if you were town.

I've explained why I thought HP and kloud were scummy. I'm explaining why there's no way I could have voted icemanE/FS.

And I notice the vast majority of your attacks on me and your defenses include phrases that just say "X is scum" and "I am town" with no logic behind them. Just trying to develop a false association here / appeal to emotion?

Armlx and SP- even more sparse. The lack of dt before armlx makes sense due to pacman's nonexistence in the game, but the lack of dt upon his arrival is questionable.

Just wondering, what do you expect pro-town players to be day talking about? What information do they have that would be better off hidden?

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:47 am

BM + CWR are next on the list Ceph.

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:55 am

I personally would rather do that in thread. Reactions from non-confirmed people to suspicions are a lot more important then those of a confirmed IMHO.

armlx · Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:33 am

but if you have the opportunity to get reactions form BOTH confirmed and unconfirmed, that is even better.

That's why my partner can, you know, also post in thread.

That said, the outside communication is good for things like Adel + DGB did with RR.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:13 am

I thought you made a mistake when you complained about doing it in the first place.

That was one of my 4 reasons.

And... why not first?

Mainly because you opposed the claim.

I agree with RR's last post.

Lol's at charter asking what we have to lose by listening to him. Pretty sure he's specifically mafia trying to mise a mislynch to help his partners out.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:24 am

I would prefer a BM lynch, but you would probably be number 2 on my list, and I could live with your lynch.

I get what you mean, but to be honest I think both have made mistakes with their day talk so damning it doesn't matter what order we lynch them in. Charter should go first as, at the least, if he is alive as we are lynching BM his constant posts like he has been doing lately will just clog the signal:noise ratio.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:48 am

On the promise of a BM lynch tomorrow, or else.

I assure you, I will vote BM tomorrow first thing. And and CWR will have to do something astounding to make me change it.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:32 am

See above.
n
And TS, to paraphrase Stewie Griffin for the situatio

"For each post of yours I find between now and your day talk, I shall kill you"

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:26 am

No, obviously daytalk is the only factor in this game.

Clearly, you have never mass claimed in a game where PM quoting is allowed or similar scenarios before.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:52 am

This post strikes me as an attempt to look town while lynching a townie but I will answer nonetheless.

Actually, I'm pretty sure letting people make last statements if they want to is standard.

Call it OMGUS if you really want to; I also happen to know that a protown player is suspicious of him.

Logic fail. In general, confirmed town being suspicious of someone, especially in the realm of massive OMGUS, is not reason to assume they are right. Do you have anything about the discussion you particularly disagree with?

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:59 am

Seems good.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:38 pm

Hmmm, not liking the double standard armlx holds. It's a crime when I don't post times, but TS gets off scott free? Probably the beginning of his buddying up attempts to her as well...

I completely forgot about that.

TS, times or die plz.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:32 pm

Vote Charter

See above.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:39 pm

LISTEN TO TS. SHE WAS TOWN. SHE WASN'T AN IDIOT AND KNEW THAT ME/CEPH ARE TOWNIES. DONT MAKE IT TWO GROUPS OF TOWNIES HAVING TO DIE BEFORE YOU FINALLY LYNCH ARMLX/SP SCUM PAIR.

Appeal to emotion, logical fallacy of assuming pro-town = auto-right.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:47 pm

Or it could be exactly what I said it was. Also the truth. I don't really care how I convey it really, call it whatever you want, it's still right and you know it.

Lets look at the facts here.

Your case

1. I attacked you for your day talk
2. TS said you were town
3. I didn't vote for someone while the person I replaced was inactive, then helped spur wagons on 2 people who turned up town.

My Case

1. You opposed the mass claim in a scenario where mass claim had none of the usual draw backs of giving the scum perfect info.
2. When you did claim, you left out important details of D/T, and when those were filled in they did not match.
3. You have been attacking someone who is strongly considered town, if not confirmed.
4. Your baseless OMGUS attack on me based in appeal to emotion and false logic, as well as the fact said attacks contradict your game long suspicions marked in point 3.

Am I missing anything?

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:10 pm

(confirmed town, who was playing to lynch scum, not townies, as you are)

Again, confirmed town != right.

4. Your extreme buddying up to anyone who will listen (which is a lot of people in this game...)

Who and I buddying to? The people I am arguing are confirmed town? The person I forgot to ask about times on?

You have the same role as their not being on iceman's wagon. Regardless of being inactive or not, his wagon started up way before you were replaced in.

Pacman was 98% inactive this game. The 2% being posts about being active later

5. Your being horribly wrong, tunneling in on one townie, lynching them, and moving right on to the next.

I like how you feel the need to emotionalize what I empirically stated in point 3.

False, go back and reread. I was against EVERYONE POSTING IT ALL AT ONCE

(confirmed town, who was playing to lynch scum, not townies, as you are)

Again, confirmed town != right.

4. Your extreme buddying up to anyone who will listen (which is a lot of people in this game...)

Who and I buddying to? The people I am arguing are confirmed town? The person I forgot to ask about times on?

You have the same role as their not being on iceman's wagon. Regardless of being inactive or not, his wagon started up way before you were replaced in.

Pacman was 98% inactive this game. The 2% being posts about being active later

5. Your being horribly wrong, tunneling in on one townie, lynching them, and moving right on to the next.

I like how you feel the need to emotionalize what I empirically stated in point 3.

False, go back and reread. I was against EVERYONE POSTING IT ALL AT ONCE

I think everyone posting their daytalk all at once isn't a good idea. I think it's only necessary for those who are serious lynch candidates to possibly post their daytalk.

No, false. You were against the mass claim. nice try though.

False, I left out stupid shit not pertaining to this game. Would I really be that lazy as to falsify it so it was so easy to catch? Bitch about WIFOM, but the answer is still no.

Actually, I'm assuming the extra D/T's are due to scum partners. Just saying.

When did crazy all of a sudden be decreed town? I haven't heard the mod say crazy is town. There's two scum groups so I'm not sure anyone but me and ceph are town

Its been debated and voted on in thread. The majority of people are strongly leaning town on him, with a few saying confirmed.

No, I voted you for your extreme buddying up and being consistantly wrong in this game. You're not that terrible of a townie, therefore you are scum in this game

I've explained how the whole buddying attack contradicts the suspicion of Crazy. The being wrong thing only came up much later. And the majority of your posts since you started being attacked were full of bargaining tactics (the lynch armlx first thing), appeals to emotion (I'm not gonna help as I'm just lynched regardless), and whatever the "Ice was scum, I'm not" with no data backing it is.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:18 pm

Nice tactic. Call me a liar, don't show where I did to make other people extrapolate and stretch for it, the appeal to emotion that you just give up.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:21 pm

If you are town, you have no reason to not point out the lies you see.

just saying.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:38 pm

That was my point.

This is your lie "No, false. You were against the mass claim. nice try though."

Again.

I think everyone posting their daytalk all at once isn't a good idea. I think it's only necessary for those who are serious lynch candidates to possibly post their daytalk.

This is a post by you.

I think everyone posting their daytalk all at once isn't a good idea.

Emphasis mine.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:38 pm

Under view all posts by charter, its post #91

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:54 pm

I guess massclaim and everyone post their daytalk at once are now the same thing? Yeah, don't understand how anyone could get confused by that.

It definitely is in this game.

Townies can't get frustrated and give up, that's a scumtell, remember everyone?

They can, but in the context of all your other actions it is a scum tell.

armlx · Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:23 pm

Darox wrote:Anyone who thinks Crazy is scum solely because he pointed out that TS had broken a rule is reaching for the stars.

I wouldn't go that far, but its no where near definitive. I have twice I can remember, maybe 3 times, pointed out something that got a townie mod killed when I was townie.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:59 am

Refusing to respond to perfectly valid questions from some players, while answering questions from others = scumtell.

This.

I don't even think the second part is even needed.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:40 am

Crazy alerting the mod was a lawful, in fact, required part of teh game, as it is generally expected that players witnessing an infraction, or believed infraction, should ALWAYS ask the mod, because Mods are human, like us, and miss shit.

This.

I would rather lose the game then win because someone broke the rules and confirmed themselves town.

Also, see above about the rising stock in a ThAd lynch. Some things I noticed when I reread, plus the whole attacking confirmeds under bad, opportunistic logic.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:50 pm

It is interesting how your entire suspect list is made up of people who voted for you; SP/Armix, me/RR, Darox, Crazy/KoC. Omgus much?

This. 6 pages ago still this. Actually all the way from when you were attacked this

I'm interested in charter's rating system too.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:22 pm

Is there anything regarding charter/Cephrir people still want answered?

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:50 pm

7 votes. 6 if you vote (vote count was reset when the mod kill happened I think).

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:54 pm

Yeah.

If votes carry over from yesterday, he still has the 7 he had and no more, which is L-2.

Otherwise, is just me, SP, Darox, and you.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:38 pm

See above, also the logic fail of confirmed town = correct.

armlx · Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:56 pm

I like how charter keeps saying he gives up whenever someone asks a question, then shows up again to make the same baseless accusations he was questioned on in the first place.

armlx · Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:14 am

Again, we are getting to them.

Charter is also confirmed scum more or less at this point, and if he is alive during the BM lynch its going to just lead to a bunch of random intermittent posts that just add background noise.

armlx · Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:54 am

OK, but more or less so than BM/CWR?

Less, but its like 99% vs 98%. Both are confirmed scum in my mind to the extent they have to be lynched, so order doesn't matter except for the issue I stated above.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:03 am

Raging Rabbit wrote:Agreed.

Lynching charter now will get the noise turned down, and enable us to discuss other things tomorrow as well as wait to hear some sort of defence from BM/CW/replacement(s). I also don't find him less scummy than them, at least with Clockwork there's a chance he was just being lazy and doesn't care.

I also still want Admiral lynched, but all in good time I supoose.

Basically all of this.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:04 am

EBWODP: I'm not 100% sure on a ThAd lynch, but its a good thing to consider.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:11 am

I never said lynch. My implication was meant to be wagon and see what happens.

And lols at the anyone but me thing. Because wanting to lynch people who refuse to mass claim, mess up their claims, and/or attack confirmed townies is totally attacking everyone who isn't me.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:58 pm

Also, see above about the rising stock in a ThAd lynch. Some things I noticed when I reread, plus the whole attacking confirmeds under bad, opportunistic logic.

ThAd + DBE = possible scum. Lurks + the comments I pointed out earlier of ThAds

Its not like this is news DGB. If you had felt I was scummy for attacking ThAd, you would have mentioned it before you came back as his lover IMO.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:27 pm

Ah, my bad, just read the DBE needed replacement then saw DGB was here and but 1 and 1 together.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:32 pm

Emotion != auto-town. frustration at being lynched != auto-town

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:04 pm

We do know at least two of the daytalks are fabricated. Looking through them a second time, the most contrived or "thin" seem to be.

WWB, I forgot to address this earlier, but why would thin be scummy? I discussed this in the last Polygamist (where I happened to be scum, but I was being legit about what I said): what do we really have to discuss in QT that's not better off in thread other then mentioning when an attack has secretive motives (ie baiting like the Adel/TS thing)?

And before Charter/Cephrir goes off on me for this, I'm attacking his day talk for reasons other then the content.

armlx · Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:45 pm

While I agree detailed good day talk is indicative of town, I'm not sure the opposite is true.

And as I said before in either this or that game, I'd rather have the opinions of a confirmed townie + the rest to analyze.

armlx · Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:10 pm

Why would you think BM is town here?

armlx · Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:20 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
armlx wrote:Why would you think BM is town here?
Battle Mage is very huggable in this game.

I can't argue with that logic.

armlx · Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:48 am

charter wrote:RR and armlx are scum. Lynch them.

I will post that again in two days so I don't get prodded again.

Sigh. Still 9 days till this guy is deadline lynched?

armlx · Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:18 am

Because your "case" on me is based on more then OMGUS in an attempt to stall your lynch?

armlx · Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:36 am

BM - if your next post isn't paraphrase daytalk, you guarantee my vote moving back to you. 'Nuff said.

I think that point passed a long time ago.

armlx · Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:06 am

One of KoC?

WHOEVER REPLACES CLOCKWORK RUSE, YOUR 1ST POST MUST BE A PARAPHRASING OF YOUR DAYTALK TO DATE WITH DAY AND TIME WITH EACH PARAPHRASED POST

I see no excuses now. (except if the mod decides to edit this down).

armlx · Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:47 pm

armlx wrote:

WHOEVER REPLACES CLOCKWORK RUSE, YOUR 1ST POST MUST BE A PARAPHRASING OF YOUR DAYTALK TO DATE WITH DAY AND TIME WITH EACH PARAPHRASED POST

Bump for relevance. Will do each page.

Also, Darox

My Case

1. You opposed the mass claim in a scenario where mass claim had none of the usual draw backs of giving the scum perfect info.
2. When you did claim, you left out important details of D/T, and when those were filled in they did not match.
3. You have been attacking someone who is strongly considered town, if not confirmed.
4. Your baseless OMGUS attack on me based in appeal to emotion and false logic, as well as the fact said attacks contradict your game long suspicions marked in point 3.

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:00 am

Question for everyone, if me and ceph are lynched, will you then proceed to lynch armlx and then RR the next two days?

No.

If BM/CWR are lynched today, are you just going to lynch me and ceph tomorrow?

Yes.

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:08 am

I say that no one should even answer him.

Why? What harm is there in doing so?

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:23 am

There is none. But if he won't even bother to take the time to answer questions, why should we answer his? Even if everyone answers, will he actually start doing something? Probably not.

So what's your point? Because he is acting anti-town, everyone else should too?

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:00 am

In fact, how can you even answer it so confidently when you don't even know what will happen from this day to tomorrow's lynch?

See what I have said about BM/CWR prior to this. See what I said why chain lynching people because of an OMGUS is bad.

Panda, I think some legitimate progress can be made via this question, though I doubt its the same as what Charter is expecting to hear.

OMG NOTANSWERINGQUESTIONS. OMGSCUM!!
See how ridiculous your logic is? You must be scum for not answering questions

The scenarios are completely different and you know it.

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:08 am

Armlx has buddied up so much it's sickening

You say buddying, I say defending confirmed townies from unwarranted attacks. I've also already explained the contradiction in your actions with respect to this statement many times.

Also, armlx is a way better player than to be lynching townies nonstop.

That's just dumb. Hell, you've only played one game with me, and I was scum there. What are you even basing that statement on?

Other's have made cases on you, I agree with them. I don't have enough time to go through 80 pages and make a massive formal case that no one will read anyway.

Where have others made cases?

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:38 am

@charter: why would you jsut want a yes or no and no explanation? That just seems like you are fishing to take someone out of context.

This is probably true.

I'm more interested in the answer to see who agrees with charter here.

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:01 pm

Darox, which specific thing wasn't said?

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:07 pm

She doesn't say she thinks this reaction can only ever come from townies.

What about his reaction would imply he is town then?

armlx · Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:08 pm

I think this is a case of DGB being DGB. Most of those opinions can be seen in her play as TS.

armlx · Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:23 am

Pretty much....

armlx · Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:23 am

EBWODP: Are we actually going to wait for BM/CWR replacement to show up?

armlx · Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:49 am

Lame. If neko is inactive, that means there are only 12 active people who could be voting (BM, CWR, Neko, DBE all inactive), meaning everyone but a single person outside a pairing would have to agree to lynch someone. Actually assured 6 days of waiting until lynch because of that. Sigh.....

armlx · Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:59 am

Yeah...... that's about as BS of a reason as I expected.

armlx · Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:23 am

I'm interested what WWB was going to say about the day talk. I still want to lynch BM on the principal of CWR stalling alone, not even counting his constant Crazy/KoC scum shit. WWB's complete flip out about an inactive being replaced was odd to say the least though.

armlx · Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:17 am

The change was announced before any of the day talks were created. It honestly could have been in any order from there. If any of the times were before the change, that would be a good tell though.

armlx · Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:29 am

I imagine all town's is the same (give or take a few minutes) 08-03-2008 10:07 PM ET (US).

Or the first 3 are town, he had to go do something for 10 minutes, and the later part has scum ones.

Or the scum are in the middle.

The time of the posts in no definitive way says anything in this scenario.

armlx · Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:25 pm

So when there's something fishy about my daytalk times, I'm scum, but when it's yours, there's a perfectly logical explaination for it? Unlikely. You're just trying to weasel your way out of your plan that backfired.

The fishy thing being incongruities and the refusal to post them, not outguessing the mod.

armlx · Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:26 pm

Works for me.

Unvote, Vote BM

armlx · Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JomHWt7p6-c

armlx · Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:01 pm

I agree with not Panda.

armlx · Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:01 pm

EBWODP: Except the part about Charter being angry town.

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:07 am

Vote Charter

thAd is definitely a good place to look next.

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:50 am

There was never a specific group. just scum in general.

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:39 am

That's the single most unexpected thing all game Ceph...

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:00 am

If you said mafia, the case against us is completely gone.

Why?

If it's werewolf, there still wasn't any to begin with anyway.

Lol.

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:20 am

Again, explain why it makes no sense for you to be mafia?

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:57 am

Read our daytalk how I kept mentioning suspicion of SSF, even at the very beginning.

And I don't see a strong push of it in thread.

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:43 am

I believe the mod was just saying that in order to save the game. In any case it will prove or disprove the theory once and for all.

So your logic is the mod is lying to the players?

armlx · Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:52 pm

Crazy wrote:
Darox wrote:
Crazy wrote:That's not true either. The mod could have done one thread, gone and taken a shower, and came back and did some others.
And that doesn't prove anything about the alignments of the people he did before taking a break.
Yes, you're correct. Which is why what I'm saying applies to sekinj, but not to armlx.

-BM had the time 9:42. He was scum.

-All scum have the same daytalking thread. So, in turn, they have the same TIME on their daytalking thread.

-Sekinj was the only other player with the same time as BM.

-Thus, sekinj is the other mafia.

I can agree with this. While different time stamps ie. 10:07 v 9:42 don't mean anything on their own, the similar time is a legit thing to consider.

armlx · Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:32 pm

What thAd says.

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:38 am

WWB, I don't see your point on the 21st thing.... All he said was I hadn't posted in the day talk.

He states he is keeping his vote on Charter/Cephrir for lack of daytalk. He can't have it both ways.

No, lack of date/time. Not lack of day talk.

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:13 am

So what is your reason for voting me now? The times have been posted.

Stalling on a claim, the complete and utter OMGUS of everyone, illogical attacks.

And you are really digging here WWB, manipulating it so the since implies I had before rather then implying that I had left.

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:19 am

sekinj wrote:What I don't like about charter/ceph is how they try to get anyone but themselves lynched...

I swear I've said this before.

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:22 am

Not anymore, he pretty much admitted he did with the implication it was merely a semantics error.

Huh? What the hell does this even mean?

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:06 pm

since armlx/sp have a different time as well I guess it still will help prove or disprove the theory.

The mod already did this.

I notice a strong propensity of those people we have attacked to vote us today.

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:26 pm

I'll be happy to highlight, in my opinion, the merits of the Charter case against you once that is posted and I have free time.

Why do you want the case on sekinj before highlighting the "merits" of charter's "case"?

armlx · Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:04 pm

The time stamp theory that was already disproven?

SP, just post the case though. Seriously.