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Post Post #4773 (isolation #600) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:13 pm

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It’s Shelley, A50 and Stan that are last scum imo.
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Post Post #4774 (isolation #601) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:14 pm

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Probably exactly those 3.
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Post Post #4777 (isolation #602) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:19 pm

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I’ve got TL on Hiraki, but if any of those i mentioned flip town then they might be scum idk.
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Post Post #4780 (isolation #603) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:27 pm

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Town Looter and Hiraki are currently those two players i’ve always thought were kinda town, but they should probably be looked at more deeply if again, any of those scummy players i mentioned are in fact town.
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Post Post #4807 (isolation #604) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:05 pm

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In post 4782, shellyc wrote:case me NEE, I dare you

you will be wrong though
Ok, and no.
In post 4784, shellyc wrote:I don't get NEE's insistence that NPOM will flip green and I am afraid it's TMI
Lol.
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Post Post #4810 (isolation #605) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:12 pm

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In post 4803, shellyc wrote:Regarding the claims of me TMI'ing: I'm just confident that NPOM is flipping scum. his "I'm town and y'all suck" is just in case the votes were messed up
You’re just copying Jacksons thoughts.
And i highly doubt they’re correct because even if "the votes aren’t correct" some other dude will just hammer him again.
This explanation doesn’t actually make sense for scum!NPOM.
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Post Post #4811 (isolation #606) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:15 pm

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Faking confidence in a scumflip when it’s actually quite obvious they’re flipping town is something i’ve done as scum and could easily see it as being something scum!ShellyC would be doing in this situation because he thought it would make him look town.
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Post Post #4812 (isolation #607) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:16 pm

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Oh sorry, i realized the pronoun was she.
My bad.
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Post Post #4814 (isolation #608) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:21 pm

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The PoE is getting pretty tight thanks to mafia focusing shots on VT’s.
So i wouldn’t dismiss the possibility of scum calling out at least one of their teammates. Especially A50 who’s just been trolling.
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Post Post #4816 (isolation #609) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:31 pm

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Yeah it might be an mistake to assume all remaining scum are in the unclaimed territory. But might as well focus there for now.
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Post Post #4825 (isolation #610) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:39 pm

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In post 4823, shellyc wrote:NEE continues to insist that NPOM is town which is very concerning. not scummy, concerning
What does it mean when you say something is not scummy but concerning?
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Post Post #4826 (isolation #611) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:41 pm

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In post 4821, shellyc wrote:
In post 4810, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You’re just copying Jacksons thoughts.
uhhh. where did jackson post the same thing?
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Post Post #4829 (isolation #612) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:44 pm

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In post 4827, shellyc wrote:and I don't like this playstyle of assuming somebody who the majority of town suspects will flip green
We’re not all blind sheep that follow along with what the majority say.
And why should that be a bad thing? My read has given room for a lot of discussion, and i still think i’m right. In fact, i’m mostly surprised that nobody else has seen it.
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Post Post #4838 (isolation #613) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:53 pm

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In post 4836, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4835, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4805, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not disagreeing there's a chance of A50/Hiraki scumteam though.
if it helps, i intend to vote A50 tomorrow
Same
If we all agree on that then MM might as well just vig them and we can focus on who else to lynch.
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Post Post #4841 (isolation #614) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:58 pm

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In post 4839, JacksonVirgo wrote:(if A50 is scum so would Hiraki 80%)
Is this based on lacking interactions between the two or something else?
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Post Post #4859 (isolation #615) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 am

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You need 5000 posts total for next
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Post Post #4873 (isolation #616) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:52 am

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Yeah.
Remaining mafia players, you might as well just claim since this twilight will never end anyway. :wink:
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Post Post #4880 (isolation #617) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:49 am

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Ugh such a bad vig shott.
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Post Post #4886 (isolation #618) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:23 am

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Now we have waste this day phase on lynching someone we already know is scum. Sigh...
VOTE: Almost50
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Post Post #4901 (isolation #619) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:47 am

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Why couldn’t people just believe me on my NPOM and Hiraki read.
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Post Post #4906 (isolation #620) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:00 am

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Shelly, are you bussing A50?
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #621) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:16 am

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I still scumread Shelly for his "confidence" on a NPOM scumflip.
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Post Post #4917 (isolation #622) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:18 am

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But A50 is just like, somehow evem more scummy so i don’t mind voting there to give them rest. They look very tired of having rolled scum this game. Let’s give them the mercy kill.
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Post Post #4918 (isolation #623) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:19 am

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In post 4916, Titus wrote:
In post 4915, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I still scumread Shelly for his "confidence" on a NPOM scumflip.
I scumread you for your extreme confidence on NPOM town.
Ok, so tell me how it wasn’t obvious he was town?
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Post Post #4919 (isolation #624) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:21 am

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While on the topic of Titus, Not sure i like Titus avoiding to do what Jackson suggested. And how they’ve been always conveniently targeting players that don’t die.
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Post Post #4920 (isolation #625) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:23 am

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I’ve also townread NPOM since a long time ago, so suggesting i’m scummy for protrecting them in the previous dayphase is a stretch at best. And downright scummy at worst.
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Post Post #4922 (isolation #626) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:25 am

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@Titus
Why did you target the vigilante rather than the gunsmith? Isn’t it objectively more pro-town play to protect the gunsmith?
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Post Post #4924 (isolation #627) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:27 am

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And if Titus is targeting PR’s and scum knows killing town!Titus can get two town at the same time, why has this not happened?
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Post Post #4933 (isolation #628) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:48 am

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In post 4932, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:I confirm I was visited by Titus btw, if that interests anyone.
Ok i’ll trust their claim then.
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Post Post #4934 (isolation #629) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:50 am

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In post 4930, Titus wrote:
In post 4922, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Titus
Why did you target the vigilante rather than the gunsmith? Isn’t it objectively more pro-town play to protect the gunsmith?
Absolutely not. If the vig hits scum, we don't have to burn a lynch. Plus, the vig shoots indefinitely while fwes had only one more shot. Third, MM is conftown bc normal rules. Fwes, while probably town at the time, wasn't conftown.
If vig hits town they die.
If gunsmith hits town we get a conf!town.
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Post Post #4936 (isolation #630) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:53 am

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Tbh it might be more telling of scum!Shelly than scum!A50 that vig wasn’t targeted for the kill tonight.
Because scum probably believed they would target A50, so the fact they didn’t might prove he was not a threat.
Sigh i guess we should think more about this.
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Post Post #4937 (isolation #631) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:57 am

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Thanks MM, you just made me doubt everything because you couldn’t just clear my doubts on A50.
Because he’s not going to play seriously anyway.
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Post Post #4939 (isolation #632) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:02 am

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Because i don’t see scum!Shelly bussing A50, but if A50 is town then that destroys my rationale for doubting my scumread on Shelly.
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Post Post #4951 (isolation #633) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:11 am

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Are we making everyone claim?
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Post Post #4957 (isolation #634) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:45 am

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A50 already claimed VT though.
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Post Post #4959 (isolation #635) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:57 am

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Ydrasse
(Confirmed harmless by gunsmith)
JacksonVirgo
(Even-night cop)
Bell
(Universally townread)
Marshmallow Marshall
(Vigilante)
Glitch
(Confirmed Neighbor recruiter)
Titus
(Loud Babysitter)

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ralph217
Town looter

So if all 3 remaining scum are in the lower list then this game should be pretty easy. I know i'm town so 3 out of 5 would be mafia from my point of view.
There might or might not be scum in the upper list but hopefully that would be made more clear as the game moves on.
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Post Post #4961 (isolation #636) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:31 am

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Oh yeah, Jackson had some kind of odd-night doohickey.
That ability which does whatchamacallit.
Yes yes, i'm fully aware of what it is.
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Post Post #4963 (isolation #637) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:00 am

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I think Stan1ey would be an good compromise elim today tbh.
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Post Post #4968 (isolation #638) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:33 am

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And this is why A50 would have been an GREAT vig shot.
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Post Post #4972 (isolation #639) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:48 am

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If y'all listened more to me yesterday i'm sure those stats would've been even greater.
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Post Post #4976 (isolation #640) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:52 am

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How about we all just claim whenever, this is boring.
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Post Post #4978 (isolation #641) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:54 am

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And A50 is literally not even playing. Either he's scum just giving up cus all his buddies are in the PoE or it's the most lethargic towngame he's ever had.
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Post Post #4981 (isolation #642) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:58 am

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Yeah.
Eh.
VOTE: Almost50
We'll be almost50 by the time this guy starts to play for real so screw it.
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Post Post #4985 (isolation #643) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 4984, Bell wrote:
In post 4983, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4975, Bell wrote:Would you like to popcorn to another player for them to claim or do we want one of the confirmed town to ask the next victim forward?
I think only you, Ralph, Norwee & Looter remain unclaimed, so I'd like MM to pick the next one to claim
Hey look you have been paying attention to the stuff scum pay attention to
Lol.
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Post Post #4986 (isolation #644) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:40 am

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Let’s just not have any more claims and finish the job that MM was supposed to do but failed.
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Post Post #5062 (isolation #645) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:14 pm

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Ok i’m VT.
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Post Post #5063 (isolation #646) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:15 pm

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In post 5058, JacksonVirgo wrote:I am starting to SR NEE again, the solve could be easily A50/Stan/NEE
Oh it just wouldn’t be an game with me in it without the good old late-game Norwee paranoia setting in, doesn’t even matter how well i play. Always.
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Post Post #5065 (isolation #647) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:25 pm

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You know what would make this an ez game.
The two highest posters not being paranoid of the other (!)
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Post Post #5076 (isolation #648) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:42 pm

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It already is morning!
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Post Post #5077 (isolation #649) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:43 pm

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I agree on Ydrasse here though. I'd much rather vote A50 over Titus when given the choice.
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Post Post #5081 (isolation #650) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:49 pm

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In post 5080, Ydrasse wrote:though i will think it is supremely funny if titus is holding mm hostage to not shoot her
I also sometimes pop out tin foil theories like that, like "lol what if both the cops CC'ing each other are scum? lol!" and then post-game it turns out i was right and it's the biggest face palm.
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Post Post #5091 (isolation #651) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:02 pm

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Yeah if you think Jackson is scum you should just be policy eliminated imo.
So A50, your time's up buddy.
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Post Post #5094 (isolation #652) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:04 pm

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In post 5058, JacksonVirgo wrote:I am starting to SR NEE again, the solve could be easily A50/Stan/NEE
Btw i just want you to know that i'm still internally puking from you actually pairing me with A50/Stan. Two of the players i've consistently scumread and hated all through this game.
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Post Post #5100 (isolation #653) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:52 pm

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Not Ydrasse, even though i begged for Glitch to hood Ydrasse.
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Post Post #5102 (isolation #654) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:57 pm

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In post 5101, JacksonVirgo wrote:My plan completely failed last night, sad. Also I was refreshing the page for ages only to realise there was a new page... again
No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
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Post Post #5108 (isolation #655) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:08 pm

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Neat. I believe it.
VOTE: ShellyC
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Post Post #5109 (isolation #656) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:09 pm

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Doesn't that mean we have two gunsmiths though.
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Post Post #5110 (isolation #657) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:09 pm

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Town 3-Shot Loud Gunsmith and Night 3 gunsmith?
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Post Post #5112 (isolation #658) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:12 pm

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Anyway, if you're lying that basically means we eliminate you tommorow so i don't see what you'd gain from this unless scum really needed another day and wanted to sacrifice you. :v
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Post Post #5113 (isolation #659) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:13 pm

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Or MM vigs you. So yeah, don't think Town Looter would be lying here.
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Post Post #5114 (isolation #660) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:13 pm

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I am disappointed you didn't share this info in our hood at first though, we could have pushed Shelly all 3 of us, and then have you drop your result much later.
Now all scum will just buss him.
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Post Post #5115 (isolation #661) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:14 pm

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In post 5111, Bell wrote:
In post 5102, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 5101, JacksonVirgo wrote:My plan completely failed last night, sad. Also I was refreshing the page for ages only to realise there was a new page... again
No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
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Super late. Were you quoting me? Should I be suspicious of you for this?
Idk what ur talking about.
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Post Post #5119 (isolation #662) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:21 pm

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So it's ShellyC.
And last two probably A50 or Stan1ey.
MM should shoot one of those two when we eliminate scum!Shelly.
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Post Post #5126 (isolation #663) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:26 pm

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In post 5122, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum is still probably within NEE/Stan/A50
Shelly being scum clears me you dingus.
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Post Post #5130 (isolation #664) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:30 pm

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In post 5128, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 5126, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 5122, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum is still probably within NEE/Stan/A50
Shelly being scum clears me you dingus.
How so
How about you read the game, you're a smart boy.
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Post Post #5132 (isolation #665) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:33 pm

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My interactions with them.
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Post Post #5134 (isolation #666) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:39 pm

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Unless you're suggesting that oh i don't know.
Maybe i ACTUALLY WAS BUSSING SHELLY THIS ENTIRE GAME, WILLINGLY FIGHTING HIM FOR ABOUT 10 PAGES INSTEAD OF JOINING THE NPOM WAGON. ALL TO DISTANCE, ALL SCUM THEATRE. MY MASTERFULLY EXECUTED PLAN THAT TAKES 1000 IQ BRAIN CELLS. ALL TO FOOL YOU PEOPLE INTO FAKELY TOWNREADING ME WHEN SHELLY GET'S GUNSMITH GUILTIED JUST AS I HAD FORESEEN TO HAPPEN IN MY CRYSTAL BALL!!
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Post Post #5136 (isolation #667) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:44 pm

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Because there's no way i can actually have decent reads right. Obvious fake ploy scum bussing. Town Norwee would have followed along with the NPOM wagon like an idiot.
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Post Post #5139 (isolation #668) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:45 pm

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In post 5114, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I am disappointed you didn't share this info in our hood at first though, we could have pushed Shelly all 3 of us, and then have you drop your result much later.
Now all scum will just buss him.
Seriously though, big missed opportunity here.

@Town Looter
Who do you think are likely Shelly's teammates?
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Post Post #5142 (isolation #669) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:52 pm

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In post 5140, JacksonVirgo wrote:In addition to those claims, we have two goon flips. I expect all three other scum to be PR's considering I believe majority of the PR claims and I doubt scum would have so many goons with this much town PR's.
Let's see what Shelly is before we start thinking further about what PR claims might be fake.
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Post Post #5148 (isolation #670) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am

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In post 5146, shellyc wrote:Hi I’m on phone and didn’t read half of this but LOOTER IS SCUM
VOTE: Looter

I’m VT and lynchbait

Two gunsmiths don’t make any sense
Why did Looter fake this guilty on you Shelly? What is the scum motivation for Looter to make himself confirmed scum if you flip town?
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Post Post #5151 (isolation #671) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:15 am

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Stan, let them talk. It’s good for analyzis either way.
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Post Post #5154 (isolation #672) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:24 am

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But this is not ELO.
And if A50 is Looters partner then they’d be obvious partners tommorow...
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Post Post #5156 (isolation #673) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:30 am

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Let’s say Looter is scum.
He mislims you, an claimed VT.
And probably dies from vig shot.
With a scum nightkill that makes it 7v2. And if he was protecting A50 that effectively makes another scum caught.
What does mafia gain from this? It’s an laughable theory. So pretty sure you’re just bullshitting.
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Glitches motion detector check on me could be scum rolecop or something on me. Besides, i don’t see why me not claiming would be scummy. If there’s no reason for me to out that i’m not a PR then i’m not going to out it. That’s common sense town play.
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Post Post #5229 (isolation #675) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:45 am

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Shelly, it’s cute how hard you’re trying. But your arguments aren’t convincing.
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Post Post #5234 (isolation #676) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 am

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I think Stan1ey and Ralph (+ me) are the only players remaining that don’t have any sort of claim or outside result that makes them less likely to be scum?
Or did someone have a result on Ralph? I can’t remember anymore.
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Post Post #5235 (isolation #677) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:10 am

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Either way, mafia targeted a VT claim. :/
This makes me even more convinced about my hood being town though. Because we were all sharing and reading paranoid thoughts about Bell possibly being a deepwolf. But this scum kill proves scum thought Bell was too town ans a high threat, so that takes a load off the mind.
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Post Post #5236 (isolation #678) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:19 am

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Townread: Marshmallow Marshall, Town Looter, Glitch.
Ydrasse was gunsmith cleared, Jackson is a cop/tracker yet not dead yet which is a bit weird, but i do TR them, Titus’s claim is paranoia fuel right now and i wish i could have a easier way of reading them.
Ralph217 and Stan1ey are both just VT claims.

It seems almost too easy for the team to be Ralph and Stan precisely but i’m not too sure where else scum might be.
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Post Post #5238 (isolation #679) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:25 am

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I agree Ydrasse. If town has a lot of strong PR’s atm. And Titus is randomly protecting them. Why would they target Bell (just a somewhat townread VT) over killing Titus that has no protection on themselves, but can target other town PR’s and is more likely to cause multideaths on town than any of the remaining scum.
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Post Post #5240 (isolation #680) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 am

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I might just prefer voting Stan, Ralph has mostly just gotten away with doing nothing, but i still actively scumread Stan1ey.
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Post Post #5241 (isolation #681) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 am

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In post 5239, Ydrasse wrote:it could be to cause this exact conversation where we’re confused and paranoid but i don’t get why you wouldn’t go for the advantage of killing two for one. unless they’re leaving it for endgame to win off numbers or s/t.

i’d almost suggest titus not protect anyone anymore for that reason because losing two prs at this point would be bad and our poe is pretty limited anyways.
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Post Post #5244 (isolation #682) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:32 am

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Good vig shot btw, A50 was basically becoming actively an hassle town town due to how bad he was starting to be playing. So better to have cleared up his allignment right now than allow him to become even more of an distraction.
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Post Post #5245 (isolation #683) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:32 am

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Hassle to town*
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Post Post #5246 (isolation #684) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:35 am

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Btw Glitch target Bell for recruitment tonight, because we wanted to perform an motion check on him. In case he was scum making the nightkill. But he died so yeah...
Our next recruitment choice was you Ydrasse.
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Post Post #5247 (isolation #685) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:39 am

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On reading of Shelly’s ISO i felt that their interactions spewed Titus as not-partnery. So that makes their slot even more of an headache to me.
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Post Post #5250 (isolation #686) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:44 am

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If any town target me for any reason on night 2 i would like them to confirm it right now.
Otherwise i’ll assume it was a scum PR.
(If you don’t know what i’m talking about, Glitch got an positive for motion detector on night 2 on me. Which looks really bad for me so if any town did this i would like for them to just admit it right now.)
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Post Post #5252 (isolation #687) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:46 am

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Who had you targeted so far each night Titus?
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Post Post #5253 (isolation #688) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:47 am

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Is this based on VCA or what Titus, also have you considered whether my interactions with Shelly was bussing or genuine?
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Post Post #5254 (isolation #689) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:49 am

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Are you going to interact with me at all. :roll:
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Post Post #5256 (isolation #690) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:51 am

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In post 5249, Titus wrote:The VTs feel cornered, likely because they're scum.
So why would scum keep killing VT’s if they are cornering themselves? Your explanation doesn’t fit with reality.
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Post Post #5259 (isolation #691) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:55 am

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How on earth would a team with me and Ralph make any sense.
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Post Post #5260 (isolation #692) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:56 am

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Also i was apparently bussing Shelly instead of miselimming Glitch when i had the chance.
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Post Post #5262 (isolation #693) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:59 am

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Here’s from what i’ve posted in the hood:
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In post 71, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw if you two still doubt me, this shit is like classic anti-association tell imo.
Look at how Shelly is calling me scum with high confidence here:
Subject: Large Normal 229 | Manatee's Musical Mafia | Night 4
shellyc wrote:if the claim is real NEE is pretty much scum

want to go one of the two today

will go ISO diving to make my mind up
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shellyc wrote:NEE please untunnel me for a bit

now I don't mind you scumcasing me, it's just I'm aware it's incorrect
"Please untunnel me" Fucking lmao, is that something you'd say to someone you scumread? He's basically calling me scum and then town in a very short time period. This is one of his scumtells that had me get even more confident he was mafia.
In post 72, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Either he has chronic amnesia and forgot he had me as a scumread or he's just scum who has to track stances manually.
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Post Post #5263 (isolation #694) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:00 am

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In post 5261, Titus wrote:That supposes ralph is your partner but you could just be bussing Stanley for cred.
Are you delusional? :lol:
How on earth do you expect me to endgame with bussing Stan for cred when there are still like 5 PR’s left that will obviously check me at some point?
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Post Post #5265 (isolation #695) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:03 am

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You could be protecting Stan just like you claim i’m protecting Ralph. Why is Stan town? The only reason you seem to trust him is because you claim i’m scum. But what will you say about him if i flip town?
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Post Post #5266 (isolation #696) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:05 am

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In post 5264, Titus wrote:That's why you've doubted us.
If i’m town what would i be doing differently?
Not doubt you? Trust that scum are in Ralph and Stan 100%?
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Post Post #5268 (isolation #697) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:05 am

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I’m voting Stan. How is that wanting PR’s dead.
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Post Post #5270 (isolation #698) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:06 am

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Help me buss my partner Titus please. I want you to buss Stan so hard right now.
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Post Post #5273 (isolation #699) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:08 am

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Do you have an persecution complex?
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Post Post #5274 (isolation #700) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:09 am

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I’m vocal town though.
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Post Post #5276 (isolation #701) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:10 am

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Let’s say it’s not GG to elim me.
What’s next for you?
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Post Post #5278 (isolation #702) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:11 am

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Ok that doesn’t sound so bad.
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Post Post #5280 (isolation #703) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:12 am

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Town can afford one mislim.
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Post Post #5281 (isolation #704) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:14 am

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If you want to waste an cycle then vote me. If you want to elim either one of the partners i am apparently bussing vote Stan1ey or Ralph.
After that if it’s not GG then it’s not my problem.
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Post Post #5282 (isolation #705) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:15 am

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Jackson do you have result btw.
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Post Post #5288 (isolation #706) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:57 am

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I really don't think A50's death was a bad thing. He'd probably just be an distraction, keep having bad reads, or do nothing if he was still here.
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Post Post #5290 (isolation #707) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:01 am

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In post 5286, Glitch wrote:Titus can you post a list of your targets each night here?
They posted it already:

N1:
I keep siteflaking

N2:
Bell

N3: Mm
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Post Post #5291 (isolation #708) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:02 am

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In post 5269, Titus wrote:Yes or that Glitch faked his N2 result, which you aren't pushing very hard.
I've already towncased Glitch earlier. Why would i be paranoid of an faked N2 result when he's not even really pushing me for it?
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Post Post #5298 (isolation #709) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 5295, Titus wrote:
In post 5292, JacksonVirgo wrote:Titus you are an idiot. I have absolutely no time to do anything right now but I'll post soon
I'll resist the urge to fight you and put you on ignore until your claim.
I think you would be playing a lot better if you were less combative of whoever slights you and more focused on the whole picture Titus.
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Post Post #5326 (isolation #710) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:37 pm

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You should have targeted me Jackson. Smh.
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Post Post #5330 (isolation #711) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:42 pm

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I don’t feel too bad about being mislimmed anymore considering either all scum are in Ralph/Stan or some scum have cleverly fake claimed. In which case i’m definitely not going to win because this town has a hardon for not elimming PR claims as has been proven.
My vote will stay on Stan though because i think they are very likely scum. Ralph i’m just not sure which is an scary thought.
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Post Post #5334 (isolation #712) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:45 pm

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You know, i’m still town.
But since i look bad then why not. Y’all need an proper wake up call and my flip will hopefully work towards achieving that.
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Post Post #5335 (isolation #713) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:50 pm

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In post 5328, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: Norwegian
Sorry but that last post just screams scum
Or you know, it’s just that literally nobody has targeted me for an investigation this entire game even though i’ve been suspected a lot.
And i’m just a VT, so i’ve got nothing going for me compared to all the dudes with PR or having been cleared. I’ve fought with just my words this entire game.
So hearing that you targeted the very likely vig target was quite disappointing.
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Post Post #5337 (isolation #714) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:57 pm

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I think Stan is very likely one of the scum.
But the second one could be anyone.
That’s my take, might be Ralph or might be someone that’s been fake cleared as town.
Although not my problem. Just make sure to get rid of Stan as soon as you’ve killed me.
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Post Post #5340 (isolation #715) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:07 pm

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One of the confirmed (and dead) gunsmiths said Ydrasse didn’t test positive for a gun.
Which means exactly that Ydrasse is either town or an mafia doctor.
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Post Post #5343 (isolation #716) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:09 pm

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No ur just slow
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Post Post #5344 (isolation #717) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:09 pm

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Which explains why u scumread me ;)
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Post Post #5345 (isolation #718) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:10 pm

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Ralph feels town but if he’s not scum the implications are scary.
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Post Post #5347 (isolation #719) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:14 pm

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On the one hand, i appreciate Stan not just stating i’m scum outright, but then again. If he was scum here he’d know he was cornered and me being limmed wouldn’t exactly build his case for the next day. So i can see why both town and scum!him would try to increase the PoE pool to save himself.
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Post Post #5348 (isolation #720) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:17 pm

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Stan this might be awkward, but can you try to towncase yourself? Have you done anything you don’t think scum!you would have done up to this point?
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Post Post #5353 (isolation #721) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:25 pm

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I don’t really get how it clears you, can you explain it to us.
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Post Post #5356 (isolation #722) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:30 pm

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This town cares more about PR’s than anti-tell associations i thought you’d figure that out at this point.
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Post Post #5362 (isolation #723) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:39 pm

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Are we moving into tinfoil.
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Post Post #5366 (isolation #724) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:43 pm

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In post 5364, stan1ey wrote:Ik ppl will say "town should never advocate their own lynch" or whatever but I think it has to be either me or you today NBEE
Hm. I actually like how you seem keenly aware of the fact that an elimination on you or me is the only way to change anything.
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Post Post #5367 (isolation #725) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:44 pm

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Are you still scumreading me Stan?
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Post Post #5369 (isolation #726) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:48 pm

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Ok fine. I’ll be the sacrifical lamb. But first let’s try to figure out which 2 PR’s could potentially be lying.
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Post Post #5371 (isolation #727) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:51 pm

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MM is out of the question. Vig can never lie in an open setup without serial killer.
Town Looter perfectly reacted to Fwesnid’s gunsmith claim like they knew it might be fake, which proves it’s likely they are a real gunsmith. And had a guilty on Shelly. Unlikely to be fake or mafia gunsmith.
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Post Post #5373 (isolation #728) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm

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JV can you post your night actions so far?
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Post Post #5374 (isolation #729) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:53 pm

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In post 5372, stan1ey wrote:I'd include JV in the 100% category too along with MM and looter
Why though? Is it really 100% or more like 95%?
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Post Post #5378 (isolation #730) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:21 pm

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Odd night was tracker for you right? And you target me N1?
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Post Post #5380 (isolation #731) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:29 pm

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You were an doctor? o_o
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Post Post #5381 (isolation #732) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:29 pm

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Doesn’t that make Titus’s claim even more suspicious.
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Post Post #5382 (isolation #733) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:31 pm

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Because you can target Titus and Titus can target you on odd nights. Making you both invulnerable for one night. That really doesn’t seem right.
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Post Post #5385 (isolation #734) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm

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Yeah but from an setup speccing perspective Titus really is the odd man out here. I thought they were the only doctor-type role we had. But an odd-night doctor + full semi-doctor? Lmao, get outta here.
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Post Post #5389 (isolation #735) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:01 pm

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Ok but ask yourself. Would an normal setup be approved where a doctor + another doctor can both protect themselves on odd nights? That seems unnecesarily harsh for scum assuming Titus is legit, which i don’t believe anymore.
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Post Post #5390 (isolation #736) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:04 pm

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Also there are a bunch of other town PR’s + only flipped mafia goons so far. On top of that there are two doctors?
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Post Post #5394 (isolation #737) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:17 pm

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In post 5392, Town looter wrote:Need to iso and do homework, but Titus has to be scum here.
Yeah i’m pretty sure of it, Jackson being even-night doctor condemns them.
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Post Post #5396 (isolation #738) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:18 pm

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In post 5395, JacksonVirgo wrote:Have I just been stupid or something?
Yes! You seriously didn’t question a full doctor claim with yourself knowing what you are?
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Post Post #5399 (isolation #739) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:25 pm

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Titus claimed before you did. Your claim can effectively CC them.
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Post Post #5402 (isolation #740) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:35 pm

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You can’t really believe that.
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Post Post #5403 (isolation #741) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:45 pm

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Then why aren’t you two dead yet?
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Post Post #5405 (isolation #742) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:29 pm

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You think it's all WIFOM got it.
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Post Post #5410 (isolation #743) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:50 am

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Wrong on what?
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Post Post #5420 (isolation #744) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:24 am

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To be fair, if i actually was scum i probably would have advocated just lolshooting Titus earlier.
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Post Post #5433 (isolation #745) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:54 am

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In post 5431, Town looter wrote:Oh yeah, I thought that was resolved as JV visited Norway, but that was N1, not N2. Hmmm.
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Post Post #5435 (isolation #746) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:00 am

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I think it's not very credible. Their claim is weird and to go along with a regular doctor...?
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Post Post #5438 (isolation #747) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:56 am

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You seem more preoccupied with explaining BS than actually saying why each of those 3 people you’ve pounted out are scum.
And you honestly don’t have much going for you other than your claim.
Did you push Shelly at all Titus?
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Post Post #5440 (isolation #748) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:58 am

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In post 5437, Glitch wrote:It's unlikely for Titus to be scum after my positive motion detection on IKSF unless he performed the NK that night.
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Post Post #5441 (isolation #749) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:02 am

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In post 5437, Glitch wrote:SHIT
What if Ydrasse is scum doctor who visited scum Norway N2? Norway has been pushing HARD for Ydrasse to be the recruit to the hood N3 and N4. He was very disappointed that I recruited Looter instead of Ydrasse.
I haven’t been pushing hard at all.
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Post Post #5442 (isolation #750) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:04 am

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Town Looter was not confirmed in any way at that point while Ydrasse was cleared by a gunsmith.
I pushed fir the logical option at the time.
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Post Post #5443 (isolation #751) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:06 am

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I don’t think Ydrasse is a good PoE option and you should reconsider Titus.
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Post Post #5448 (isolation #752) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am

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You can’t kill me if i’m scum Titus. I’d just not target you.
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Post Post #5450 (isolation #753) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:52 am

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But ok. I’ll agree with Stan over me if that’s the consensus option.
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Post Post #5451 (isolation #754) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:52 am

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In post 5449, Titus wrote:
In post 5448, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You can’t kill me if i’m scum Titus. I’d just not target you.
MM will shoot me. Thus resolving the paranoia on my slot and highlighting once and for all that I sm right.

You can't stop MM from shooting me.
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Post Post #5453 (isolation #755) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:53 am

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Because i can easily convince MM to not be dimwitted and assume an impossible Stan/Norwee team like you seem to do.
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Post Post #5455 (isolation #756) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:55 am

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You’re telling me i should assume scum is exactly Stan1ey Ralph and that scum can’t lie about PR.
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Post Post #5458 (isolation #757) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:57 am

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No i just want to understand what’s going through your head.
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Post Post #5461 (isolation #758) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:02 pm

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If MM flips town yes, not really if he’s scum.
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Post Post #5462 (isolation #759) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:02 pm

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I mean if Stan* flips town.
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Post Post #5464 (isolation #760) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:06 pm

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Yeah but unlike you i care about associative reads. You’re less likely mafia if Stan flips scum.
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Post Post #5465 (isolation #761) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:07 pm

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Actually i don’t agree.
Dunno why i said yeah.
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Post Post #5467 (isolation #762) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:09 pm

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I’ll take my chances. I’m like a roach, really hard to kill. :)
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Post Post #5468 (isolation #763) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:10 pm

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VOTE: Stan1ey
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Post Post #5473 (isolation #764) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:37 pm

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MM you should shoot Ralph if Stan flips red.
Just so i can hopefully endgame as town and make Titus sad.
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Post Post #5475 (isolation #765) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:38 pm

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Jackson calm down.
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Post Post #5477 (isolation #766) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm

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Awww ;(
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Post Post #5500 (isolation #767) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:17 pm

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Wow you guys are dumb.
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Post Post #5501 (isolation #768) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:18 pm

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I’ve never played a more town game.
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Post Post #5502 (isolation #769) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:21 pm

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To quote Shelly, sometimes scum are just scum.
And sometimes town are just town.
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Post Post #5504 (isolation #770) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:28 pm

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What would be funny is if Stan is actually scum here but you two felt so god damn arrogant and good about your shit deepwolf read on me that town was limmed even though we had Stan on L-1.
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Post Post #5506 (isolation #771) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:56 pm

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Oh i’m L-1. Thought i was eliminated already.
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
There we go. No point wasting time.
And yes i’m still town. But clearly there’s no point wasting anymore time on this shit. When it’s THIS clear from associations that i can never be on a team with Shelly/SJreaver and get voted to E-1 anyway. It’s time to just give up and accept that town sucks.
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Post Post #5508 (isolation #772) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:57 pm

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And yes i’m shading all of town.
Everyone that ever suspected me.
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Post Post #5510 (isolation #773) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:59 pm

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I will not promise that.
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Post Post #5512 (isolation #774) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:02 pm

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In post 5507, JacksonVirgo wrote:I have no words
What did you expect anyway? For me to magically get trusted and not get hammered later?
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Post Post #5513 (isolation #775) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:04 pm

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I’ve done you all a favour, instead of reading more conjencture about how i’mdoing a 1000 IQ play and tricking everyone. You can now just assume i’m town and play accordingly. Isn’t that what you wanted.
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Post Post #5516 (isolation #776) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:07 pm

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Oh and that shit about how i was apparently shading you one page back Jackson gave me cancer just reading it. That’s why i didn’t even bother responding to it.
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Post Post #5517 (isolation #777) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:08 pm

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In post 5515, JacksonVirgo wrote:NEE, could you answer my question from earlier. If you do flip town I would like your response to that
What question?
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Post Post #5519 (isolation #778) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:10 pm

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If Stan scum Ralph likely scum. If Stan town Titus likely scum.
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Post Post #5530 (isolation #779) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:25 pm

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There’s no if. I WILL flip town. Now start solving.
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Post Post #5531 (isolation #780) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:27 pm

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Or are you guys going to pull another Shelly and act like you’re SOOO convinced they’ll flip scum.
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Post Post #5532 (isolation #781) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:46 pm

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Titus how about you engage me now that you literally cannot shade whatever i say as scum logic anymore.
Do you seriously believe that both Stan1ey and Ralph are the last two remaining scum? And that somehow mafia decided to never kill PR’s and then claim VT to die from PoE later?
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Post Post #6092 (isolation #782) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:39 am

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Actually i think Titus was rather obvscum in the later days. So town not voting her out was a big dumb.
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Post Post #6095 (isolation #783) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:40 am

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Did nobody notice how Titus conveniently always targeted someone useless that mafia didn't kill.
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Post Post #6100 (isolation #784) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:42 am

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With Titus dead Jackson might have been snuffed out too because they'd have to keep up an appearance of always being roleblocked or something dumb like that.
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Post Post #6103 (isolation #785) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:43 am

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In post 6101, Glitch wrote:My reads were shit literally the whole game. Wow I suck at town ha.

Neighborhood was not that useful because I was always paranoid there was scum in it. Masonhood would have been useful or if a more skilled and experienced player had rolled my PR that knew better how to use it to town advantage. I am very interested in the mafia PT and the dead thread!
Dead PT is mostly just me screaming that Titus is scum and Jackson is either the worlds dumbest town or scum too.
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Post Post #6114 (isolation #786) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:51 am

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Mafia isn't just about being right A50, but convincing others you're right.
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Post Post #6120 (isolation #787) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:06 am

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In post 6117, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6114, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mafia isn't just about being right A50, but convincing others you're right.
Again if I respond to this I am risking eating a ban, so I won't.

But seriously, what has this site come to? It used to be there was a majority of GOOD scum hunters all over the place. Right now it's just trollers, people who can't even think, people who treat mafia as a "random guessing game", and people who want to have it their own way regardless of the cost because they probably have personality issues they try to compensate for at the expense of everyone's enjoyment. It's no fun AT ALL when someone decides to switch off their brain and just go gung-ho all throw the game. THANK GOD I wasn't a starter in this game (and I now TOTALLY understand why RV keeps replacing out of games)
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Post Post #6123 (isolation #788) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:33 am

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I also remember saying something like "why is scum killing VT's" and "we should look at the PR claimers"
But of course back to back all VT were lynched 3 days in a row and none were scum lol.
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Post Post #6132 (isolation #789) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:12 am

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Just say it dude.
Hearing you talk about how you secretly hate two shadow men is cringy.
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Post Post #6146 (isolation #790) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:18 am

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In post 6145, Almost50 wrote:Then someone decided to step in the line of fire (Norwee),
U know i love me some good drama.
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Post Post #6154 (isolation #791) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:20 am

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I spent like 800 posts here.
Obvs i’d take it seriously.
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