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howdy

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hmmmmm

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i get feelin whys every one tslking

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hello lapsa

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Bell jump on wagon when heard it was is"nt your let him clami ? other wise it counts as a quick hammer

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tell me if im wrong bus is"nt most survivor expert at playing

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It has to be 2 vigilante setup. I see no other way around it.

Rolefishing much?

Fos lapsa

youv being slow this game but the game isnt as fast pass

so heres a question whys he fish

id ont like you

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haha looter mostly reading on here this is my 3rd game i am trying to get better at it.

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UNVOTE:

I wish I were as cool as Bell.

VOTE: lapsa lapsa might be scum they havent said nothing here stale buddying

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haha whats up lapsa

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is thire a pr claim?

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so i cant just say fwensid is scum since omgus . but other wise i wouldn't be here so i think he is expreee to lynch me . why scummy gibberish fwesnid?

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lets wait for titus to wigh in

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VOTE: power nopowre is arguing just cuse my thoghts are hes scum .

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lol so tht looks like post mafi makes and forgets to change lines . i am the town doom sayer and \looter is scum

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norwiege and sjr are towm im sure of it

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VOTE: loot nothing i like

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VOTE: lapsa laps gone i was probably rite on him

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norweig reave pite are town i think . im beting laps are scum and the funny thing is we get close to voteing but people get scared

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no town ppost by laps now makes me think why almodt thought was town i may need to change my vote so people talk again

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almost

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Ares towm . wan to town block ydrasse?

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72 is to much energy for scum i think i will stick to my guy on this one

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ment to say gut sorry i posted to fast .

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listen 5 is a big number to me. a bit frightening

sorry i can ask mod to chagne my name

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listen 5 is a big number to me. a bit frightening

sorry i can ask mod to chagne my name

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dont know why posted twice thire .

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when i can't sleep no matter what easyist i stop tryin and do something relaxin for a bit to try again later . like tea or read a book

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my thoughts are fluster but ydrasse still town . vibe anf gut posting come from town

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i'm playing loose and fast right now and my reads come from the heart

like thi sone

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a50 feels different than the game i played with him. he was scum in it.

i feel like titus voting something out of the blue like that is in character tbh.

VOTE: norwegian

this is a soul-vote until i figure out if 72 is a good wagon

i too am vibing with a norway wagon right now. my vote was a good one.

stay strong town, let not this scum inflitrate our ranks.

and

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going make a bet that the game could be solved by shorting these 5 players laps/loot/al50 . hmmm i couldn't think of 2 more mayb not haha

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sheely is obtown

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Ralph who are the other 4 scum quick

hmmm im still thinking about it . i have more towmr eads then scum reads

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oh i found scum . is funnly obvious the doc went into scum Lapsa haha . hes lost and has no interest

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VOTE: drdoetle also funny thing is if you look at hes more interested in other games then this one

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VOTE: drdo my bad haha . sorey for that

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ill miss surperboel i liked him . i knew i was rite on the doc still haha . now to just find the last to

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saying the role just takes 1 minuet bug coming with fakeclaim takes ages . not good sign fore glitch

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not dismising Norwegie but Glitch towm .no way thats theter

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also good evening to every one it is now 740pm so what timezone is that. now there is town in my town bloc Ydrasse

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still think youre prov town tho ignoring the clime

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sheeeeeellellllly

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New solve

NPOM / A50 or Ralph / NEE or Glitch

pedit please jackson give me the prize

i like fwes' readslist a lot

Bell feels pretty town but i think hiraki could feasibly be scum here

limpool {NPOM, stanley, NEE, A50, Hiraki, Looter} in order of preference

sheeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyy where did i go ?

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powre has no reason to say hes scum cuse votes could be wrogn again

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maaanaaaatiiiiii

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towm

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how many climes are elft ?

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just a queston who are thorse that are un confirmed ? i said it my self ill look at them and find scum or thinking this games going to get thow out

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Why did i join a 20+ game. Omg. Time to fight against the wagon dynamics of dogpiling on an random player.
Vigs better shoot tonight.

I finished reading Bananas just yesterday. You are good scum. Dangerous if red.

Norweige town . werd for reaver to say randomly second post to bud

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im not even mad jackson hammered that response was an absolute joke I reckon we finally hit scum

VOTE: JV

he hasnt said anything after the "hammer" as if he was just keeping quiet to not bring attention to anyone, looks a lot like scum sacrificing themselves. plus DDL's remarks after he thought he was dead makes me think he isnt lying

Hammer or no hammer, the JV vs DDL CC needs to be resolved first

I believe JV

VOTE: DDL

yep lets let this JV vs DDL thing get sorted and see if we need to do it tomorrow, tbh we might not have to we are in a half decent position rn

hmmmmmm like this

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totus only voted for town this game

VOTE: Siteflaking

I feel like making a completely arbitrary move with the deadline frozen.

except this on which was just a park with no reason or push so distance basicly . VOTE: Titus

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with how confirmed?

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Doctor makes a lot of sense with a vigilante and a babysitter. It gives a lot of killing protection some safety.

Scum could have a strongman but aren't required to have one as scum can just kill whoever they want on even nights if I am not protecting them.

Basically, the doctor is a failsafe built in if MM and I mess up.

this makes less sence . too much powre for town and we can folow the cop . if scum have strongmen then setup to swingy becuse 3 protective really good for towm but only if strongmen dead . so lot is on when strongmen dies and bad balamcing

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is totus full roll loud announcing doc ?

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loud babysitter?

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haha i am the town doomaayer and i told you its totus .

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jack glitch ydrasse all town from climes and says so looters other scum ?

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@everybody

, what are your current reads on ralph and stan1ey in comparison with each other. And would that change with a NEE town/scum flip.

i told told you Norweige and stan both felt towm !

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No one is actually confirmed 100%. But from top to bottom:

1) Myself, Jackson and MM are almost 100% confirmed, outside of a deep gambit or bus. MM is probably the most confirmed given Vigilantes can only be town under normal rules

loot why you in 1 with thorse ?

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looter is the second gun Smith clime ? are you cop on odd or even nights?

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Titus is cleared via Glitch and IKS.

is she loud babsitter so they were told she visited ?

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@everybody

, what are your current reads on ralph and stan1ey in comparison with each other. And would that change with a NEE town/scum flip.

i told told you Norweige and stan both felt towm !

This reaks of TMI

thats not what tmi is . im happy my reads were right it's a i told you so

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so no lunch today and check me ? titos protect you she cant kill you as scum

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@everybody

, what are your current reads on ralph and stan1ey in comparison with each other. And would that change with a NEE town/scum flip.

i told told you Norweige and stan both felt towm !

This reaks of TMI

thats not what tmi is . im happy my reads were right it's a i told you so

That is what TMI is and it's like scum trying to cash into their town-reads to try and get town-cred in MyLo

titus pushed for towns cuse shes scum and had to . i pushed her cuse the other to semmed towm

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but if you lunch then we lose for sur . why is titos clear ? is she loud babsitter ?

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lunch me

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if you lunch me

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Ydrasse help me convince him

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im sur glitc is town cuse no scum neighbours scum and has good thatre like that . ydrasse towm cuse i can tell and guns clear . jack town cuse countered doc and got him lunched . has to be totus and loot

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all that means is that titus is loud soemthing. could be rolecop basicly. how does that clear her ?

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ohh flakes was scum yeah

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hmm maybe totus is scum loud doc then and can protec her scum against the vig ? need to think now

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In the Ralph quote im asking what is being said when he days doomaayer?

im town doomsayer cuse i called totus was scum yesterday

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who did you protect in last night jack ? is loot a full gunsmith or some shots ? i need full pic so i can work this out

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glitch neighbored me . i am the TOWN DOOMSAYER also called vt haha

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he hasnt but he countered the doc and got him lunched. but also loots guilted and also you cruit and talked to scum night 1 . unless its ydrasse and totus someoen is pulling a fast one here

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hmmmm doesnt titsu make the most sence for mafia doc ? its really good for scum vs gunsmith and vig so mod made it loud to balance

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it gets cleared and can protect against vig while vig can still kill towm

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think loots is town now cuse shelly doesnt seem like kind of person to want to be bussed . unless there was a fite in the scums chat

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totus and someoen i have no idea of roght now

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i do wonder why actually the babysitter and the babysitters target, also pr, is alive rn

did titus make it clear she was on mm the past few nights?

goodnight

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whoops haha

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yeah was looking at ydrasse calling out totus but then she said she was probably fine anyway so hmm

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i have the plan but want to hear from all first .

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glitch youre combined motion dec and neighborer ? can you target already neighbored players?

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hmmmm doesnt titsu make the most sence for mafia doc ? its really good for scum vs gunsmith and vig so mod made it loud to balance

Mafia doc isn't unbalanced with two gunsmiths and a vigi wot

If it was quiet maybe. A loud mafia doctor that puts a neon sign on teammates isn't a good, balanced role. Especially with this much town power.

Think of a massclaim in late game.

I'm a doctor. Then why have you visited only scummy slots? We know exactly who you visited. Town lynches everyone who mob doctor visited.

Or

The loud mob doctor can't heal their teammates denying use of the role entirely with the vig in the game.

It also requires the slot be checked to get any utility for scum.

A loud mafia doctor just doesn't work.

not black and white like you making it. . instead you target your partners few time when you need to and raget town other times . which is what you did haha

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or the mafia doc doesnt target prs they think the town vig will target ? which you didnt ?

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but you climed babsitter not doc . i think its clear what im sayin that vig will target scummy peop so maf doc just has to pretend to visit towmread peop every once in a awhile who wont be vigged which is what you did . youre just arguin the point cuse you have to

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idk, i really just don’t get why titus is alive right now with a pattern of visiting prs this entire time. there’s the wifom of yeah she could switch to someone else like maf but she just... hasn’t.

It's because the vig wouldn't shoot me. I begged for it yesterday. Scum need me as the final mislynch. They can't shoot their mislynches with the amount of clears.

thjis good point actually but if youre towm then the game is relly messed up . need to here from glitch so i can say the plan

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fine basicly the plan is:
jack check me
glitch motion detect titus loot or ydrasse and try to target kill maker

scum cant leave jack alive for wifom cuse then it narros poe and im clear
and its better to rule out jack deepscum world
if jack still alive it gives us info and we can talk abt if jack is pulling the fast oen
we should alway be no luching today

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oh and totus target no one

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at very least it rules out jack deepscum
no harm in doing that basicly

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no lunching in even num mylo is alway correct if no ones 100% confired . jack wanting he me ded for if doesnt help my paranoia . very least we should no lunch today and then lunch who jack wants tomorrow . still better than just lunching me today and losing

totus Do NOT taget anyone VOTE: no elimination

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at very least it rules out jack deepscum
no harm in doing that basicly

So you are advocating for us to lose the game?

While no elim is safest, pretty sure we could elim Ralph and we'd be fine. He is about as likely to be town as the odds of Titus fucking up the WIFOM night action.

. . .. . .

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oh well i tried ded people . sorry for lettin you down superbol and nero

jack if youre town you need to realsow that titus babsitter is really op for towm with gunsmith and you . if either clines we folow the cop and nothing scum can do

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youre so so so wrong . and im not even sur youre toem now cuse why di you have a problem with no lunching if you die if everyone just agres to lunch me if that happens? surly you can see how thats better from my point

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one of jack and tifus basivly has to be scum from my point cuse they both are too much powre for towm but one would be ok . thats why i wanted no lunch to rule out jack so i can add totus is for sur scum

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too much protectiv power cuse prs can be protected after climing early and nothing scum can do. one of jack or tifos relly has to be scum and the way jacks reacting like this is makin me even doubt its totus over jack . pleaselets no lunch

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totus you ahouldnt protec jack cuse pretty sur one of you is scum so no need to .

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Of course I won't want me dying, I'm a cop that can easily just solve the game if I check right. And you're pushing for me to be an easy kill for the mafia

my gut is tellin me jack is scum for this cuse he dies in all cases tonite so whys he arguing that hes cop and so shouldn be let die ? clesrly my plan isnt to deny a cop check . we were never gettin that cop check anyway

jack if youre towm plese listen to me that totus should be conformed scum from yyoure point . come back after your drinks

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thats what norweige was saying yesdter to but you killed him .

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and totus if youre town you need to look at your roll and then look at the 3 ded mafia and see there all goons . you rely think towm has so much powee against that ? thos mayseem like im pushing you agaisnt each other but i reslly really think one of you has to be scum .

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if loot glitxh ydrasse totos come on and want fo vote me jus listen to this at the least:::

its ALWAYS better to no lunch today and have totus not act than lunch me today . cuse if jack is scum maybe this game can be saved then when he doesn die . if jack dies then just lunch me and its not a problem ! if no one dies then we lern his result and no lunch again !! dos this make sence ?

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we wont be in the same situation . jack should check me so if hes scum hes forced into a 1v1 and then our chances go up massive and ill know soemthing for sur that i can case .

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cuse its you or jack and i dont know who righ now . i can case much beter when i no for 100%

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i didnt know that glitch norweige thing happened and i thought loot was the main person who got shelly lunched . my burst of energy is already dieing down cuse everyone seems agaisnt me and set on this . dont know what else i can do here

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exciting !

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confrimed

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dont think i shuld give them until jack climes result .

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haha i knew i was onto somethin on jack . so jack and glitch maybe ? both of glitch/loot made a nice gambit . anyway i relly doubt i can fight this as everyoeb thinks jack is towm and im bad

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ill make a scum case on jack but im vla roght now so you need to wait for me

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VOTE: jack all of the evidence town needs to win this is there though . look at Jack talking to me like he knew i was town yesterday especially when we were having that conversation about flakes being scum and then look at his very very aggressive reaction when I suggested a no lunch .

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ok so its jack and loots for scum and glitch and totus are the ones i need to cinvince . titus my vla ends tomorrow so ill case jack then

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plese wait until then .

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sigh ive been putting of the game cuse it seems lost and everyone is saying im definitely scum . like whats the point of effortong if youve all made up your minds .

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ok but im relly busy today but i will 100% do the work tomorrow to show jack scum if you wait for me . so just one more day and ill give it my all

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maybe even tonite but for sur tomorrow i promise

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its not the first laps for the win but it was a hour . so

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Honestly I think Ralph is purposefully stalling because they’ve realised they’ve lost

This would be scummy if Ralph were even 1% towny or if you were even 1% scummy but neither of those are true. I want to wait on Ralph not because he may change my mind but because what he says may help us root out the other scum.

you shouldnt say stuff like this if youre toem. its relly un motivating and makes me really just want to give up and lose

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it's bad in all cases from Glit actually. if im scum i just say nothing instead cuse i know your mind is made and if im towm youve completely put me off from trying . not saying scummy but bad play so pelaee dont

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yes yes jack everythign i say is scum or ate etc etc . no use talking to you.

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sorry
..im salty . youve played good and i shouslnt be mad. gonna come back when im free and serene

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am i still alive. gonna do some stuff now if its not to late

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ok cool thanks for waiting . time to iso jackck

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Intent to vote ralph

This is mylo yeah?

Titus is cleared via Glitch and IKS. Looter is probably clear because of their check, but still possible (two gunsmiths and their one check hit scum), Ydrasse can only be mafia doctor which would make sense with two gunsmiths (exact reason why Looter/Ydrasse is at most T/S). Glitch is the only real town PR that has the most likely chance to be fake, they don't really have anything that confirms them at all.

Glitch/Ralph would be my solve. If it is Ydrasse, holy shit mafia got lucky.

@everybody

, what are your current reads on ralph and stan1ey in comparison with each other. And would that change with a NEE town/scum flip.

i told told you Norweige and stan both felt towm !

This reaks of TMI

alright so jack enters this game with big suses on me . im his biggest scumread

looter is the second gun Smith clime ? are you cop on odd or even nights?

I'm an even-night cop.

Ralph, if titus is town and we no-lynch. Titus will be shot if they're town and that would lead to a scum win as that gives two kills assuming Titus is on me. And if Titus is mafia I'd probably just get shot and mafia can sacrifice a buddy to get the right lynch without an extra cop clear.

Did that make any sense or am I too tired for this game

but if you lunch then we lose for sur . why is titos clear ? is she loud babsitter ?

Titus is not fully cleared, it's still possible but both yourself and glitch have much more scum equity and are both not cleared, even a little bit.

She's a loud babysitter that targeted IKS N1, glitch also confirms that IKS was visited or has visited. It's doubtful IKS was the killer considering the most townread scum at that time I think was SJReaver.

Which means that IKS was actually visited, and thus that confirms Titus's claim.

pedit: You pushing for ydrasse to help you is somewhat concerning regarding ydrasse

jack patiently explains all ive missed to me . im lost because im lost and he knows that . theres no suspicion in his mind that im faking being dumb and not knowing this stuff when there relly should be if he thinks im scum. but he never brigns it up once

im sur glitc is town cuse no scum neighbours scum and has good thatre like that . ydrasse towm cuse i can tell and guns clear . jack town cuse countered doc and got him lunched . has to be totus and loot

You'd be surprised what plans scum have. Ydrasse can be scum doctor and that would make a LOT of sense in a double gunsmith game. Titus is semi-cleared via Glitch which you seem to keep ignoring. Looter got a scum lynched.

ohh flakes was scum yeah

Do you see my point now?

this is the most mafia indicative thing though . he is now casting shade on glitche's alignment while talking to me . like hes trying to make me doubt glitched alignment when he should be most sus of me . this makes me think its jack + loots
in the second quite there he says "do you see my point now?" like he fully belives i didnt know flakes was scum . not knowing flakes was scum is either a massive townslip or faking it cuse im scum! he should think im faking it or at least have SOME doubt since im his top suspect but he takes it completely genuinely and accepts i didnt know . even asking me if i get what he was talkin about now . this is scumjack talking to me like he knkows im town cuse i am and he's scum

@Ralph. Thoughts on what I said about mafiadoc!ydrasse with two gunsmiths?

more doubt beign cast on other players . trying to convince his biggest scumead that other people can be sus for some reason. this makes no sense for townjack

Wait a second
I think I called this out earlier but Ydrasse has disappeared massively after being "cleared" as if scum that got a free clear out of luck and feels like they no longer need to try as hard.

I am seeing scum!ydrasse pretty hard rn ngl. Am I going on a wrongful tangent by thinking this?

this was just an all round bad redad considering ydrasse was down on activity across the whole sit if you did any research . feels like another attempt to just get the game winning lim on that day since maybe cuse i was lookin a lil more towny with the stuff i was sying

i do wonder why actually the babysitter and the babysitters target, also pr, is alive rn

did titus make it clear she was on mm the past few nights?

goodnight

whoops haha

I see you're ISOing lol

this reply again shows jack is not the mindset of me scu m . me isoing and solving is a good thing and jack is playing along with me trying to ge ton his biggest scumreads good side. this whole interaction from start of that day just reeks of jack talkin to me like he knows im town and is trying to convince me of others being scum cuse he thinks i can be manipulated .

fine basicly the plan is:
jack check me
glitch motion detect titus loot or ydrasse and try to target kill maker

scum cant leave jack alive for wifom cuse then it narros poe and im clear
and its better to rule out jack deepscum world
if jack still alive it gives us info and we can talk abt if jack is pulling the fast oen
we should alway be no luching today

oh and totus target no one

Ralph pushing for me to die is telling. I think they're scum flailing in MyLo now in hopes to get me dead + a town lynch (titus)

and then BOOM . as soon as a i give the plan to no elim . suddenlty his tune shifts MASSIVELY . instead of working with me and talking to me like he thinks im town i am now "scum flailing" cuse he knows waiting another day is relly no ideal for him . as then town have to talk about the wifom of him still being alive . like look how agresive this reaction is:

Without a vote for pressure nothing will change.

VOTE: Ralph

If you are super paranoid of two scum off wagon probably don't vote and explain why you think that way as another vote would leave scum room to hammer if ralph is not scum. But apart from that I am pretty confident this gives us the win here.

jack REALLY does not want to wait another night and is suddenlty now confident im scum all cuse i want to no elimn on even num which is really just standard play and always optimal . spoiler: he doesnt relly think im scum he just has to to get me elimmed then and win before today

Of course I won't want me dying, I'm a cop that can easily just solve the game if I check right. And you're pushing for me to be an easy kill for the mafia

This might be tinfoiling due to my bias but I think Ralphs vote for no elim right after I voted them is telling.

look at this . even if scum was elimmed that day it's not like jack would survive the night right? but now jack is saying "im scum who wants him dying in the night cuse hes a cop" when he wouldnt get a check no matter what happened ! and its not tinfoiling its trying to elim me cuse he has a lot of scum motivation for it


ok just posting this now cuse getting bit long might do some more

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fyi i don't have a lot of hope thos wil lchange your minds but it wouldnt be fair to everyone dead to not try .

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@Looter. Sure if it's a blind vote it's 33% but obviously this is not a blind vote at all. From my perspective the solve is fairly simple and it's essentially a 66% chance to hit scum within my poe. I have serious serious doubts thinking anyone is scum within looter/titus and that leaves a pool of 3. One we can pop today and the other I can solve with my check if the wifom goes our way

pedit: I do see your point but I still think it's just as safe to just lynch ralph here, they're pushing an anti-town agenda especially with a vote on them.

this makes me like loot though . loots is arguing for the no elim and it relly looks like jack is trying to talk him down here . maybe its jack + glitch then . dont need to figure that out today though

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damn jack has such a big iso . i need to go back and find his interactions with scum buds

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DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

Oh that wasn't hammer?

this is the thing that made me townlock jack !!!! i thought there was no way scum would hammer a buddy after they climed cop like that but turns out it was fake cuse jack was lready on ddl … im so dumb

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It has to be 2 vigilante setup. I see no other way around it.

Rolefishing much?

Fos lapsa

I thought this was a joke but I can see that

soft defnse of laps while also saying he sees it anyway cuse he doesn't want to look like he weas defending him for later

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Fuck off I'm not interested in claiming

Ok I cooled off. Its pretty clear that I'm a *very* good PR, and I really don't want to out, unless someone specifically requests it. My clown apathy play is not to draw a NK, and I figure I can avoid ML since this game is a large. I'll give my by and large thoughts tomorrow since it's 3am here

Another vague PR claim
UNVOTE:

oh nvm jack does unvote here rip . still the unvote is scummy itself like hes expressing annoyabnce at the pr clime being vague but he unvortes anyway

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Having a PR is NOT an excuse to play like shit.

solid post . love you norwee

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Also
@MM i’m Gunna be mad if i’m Honorary scum MVP

VOTE: nopoweroverme

Oof, that's hammer.

wait I thought you voted for DDL lol

wait I thought you voted for DDL lol

SAME holy shit

OH INTERESTING sshelly and jack are both scum and were both caught out by this vote thinking it was for ddl and the hammer . thats mafia indicative cuse they know ddl is scum and are more on edge about votes hammering theyre scum buddy . the fact they both saw it like that is actually relly interesting . need to keep this tell in mind for future

[ralph217]

@Ralph I skimmed the first post. Me being nice and actively giving you a chance when I was SRing you and also trying to see if you slip up somewhere is not scum!ai.

Also I would have survived the night because the protectives were on each other and if you're scum buddies with Titus you just slipped there. I will do a whole quote thing with that when I get the chance give me a seconderino

you had a cop check last night not a protective i dont know what you mean . you being nice and speking to me like im town is very mafia indicative and shows you know im town

[ralph217]

this is the most mafia indicative thing though . he is now casting shade on glitche's alignment while talking to me . like hes trying to make me doubt glitched alignment when he should be most sus of me . this makes me think its jack + loots
in the second quite there he says "do you see my point now?" like he fully belives i didnt know flakes was scum . not knowing flakes was scum is either a massive townslip or faking it cuse im scum! he should think im faking it or at least have SOME doubt since im his top suspect but he takes it completely genuinely and accepts i didnt know . even asking me if i get what he was talkin about now . this is scumjack talking to me like he knkows im town cuse i am and he's scum

But in what way is scum Jack telling town you that flake was scum, and that means he is shading me? I don't get the part about how him doing that was shading me.

he was shading you in 5568 . he was accepting the fact that townme didnt know flakes was scum in 5573

[ralph217]

Another vague PR claim
UNVOTE:

Intent to hammer

You should probably full-claim.

Why the change of heart?

funny that flakes calls jack out for this haha

[ralph217]

VOTE: DDL

VOTE: DDL

L-1

L-1 no votes until DDL is awake

wtf siteflaking

did we just accidentally hammer another PR wow

i guess this scumteam is relly into relly fake hammer reaction tests huh ?

[ralph217]

That one was a hammer, this game's a mess lol

sorr yforgot to include this one

[ralph217]

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

ok so the big question is WHY does jack put what he thinks is the hammer down on the doc here thats whats strange right now . does he actually think this is hammer ? maybe they were counting votes in the scumpt and knew it wasnt ? or mayeb he was actually going for the big bus cred but thats wiiiild

[ralph217]

Damnit Jackson you didn't give anyone a moment to get off the damn wagon. A 10 person team effort to eliminate him but you took the elim into your own hands and didnt let anyone have a chance to consider the claim. What good is it to declare intent if you're not going to let the claim be read by those on the wagon? If DDL flips town you are a new prime suspect. Clearly you are aware poor hammering is anti town:

We don't need another claim. We need a flip.

VOTE: 72offsuit

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, aight

this post reads as kinda fake after jack hammered . leaning more and more towards it being glitch and jack .

[ralph217]

Btw, the fake L-1s are becoming childishly silly. You don't vote someone and claim they're @L-1 when the VC on the same page shows then @L-4 before your vote. DUH!

Wait was that not actually hammer?

No. He's currently @L-2

oh cool thanks almo haha . so jack did know it wasnt hammer and he relly should not be getting any cred for that .

[ralph217]

VC2.05

With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate

DrDolittle (6):

ralph217, shellyc, superbowl9, NorwegianBoyEE, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe

Glitch (4):

DrDolittle, JacksonVirgo, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus

stan1ey (2):

Ydrasse, Fwesnid

NoPowerOverMe (2):

Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki

Ydrasse (1):

Bell

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

yeah look this is actually ridiculours jack knows for sure that isnt l-1 or later a hammer

[ralph217]

like jacks "L-1" was FIVE POSTS later the vc showing ddl was on L-4 but supposedly here he thinks these were hammers:

Oof, that's hammer.

That one was a hammer, this game's a mess lol

that's the 2nd time you've fell for that on the same page lool

I'm stupid as well shell lmfao

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

Oh that wasn't hammer?

Am I dead?

No. Jackson declared intent to hammer you and asked for a claim when you were not at L1. -_-

I thought they were, all that fake L-1 bs confused the shit out of me
I hammered for a reason that I do not want to out rn

there is literally NO WAY you can believe jack relly thought all that was putting ddl on l-1 and he wa actually trying to hammer . look at that last post . like seriously im glad i found this

[ralph217]

there are NO votes between the vc showing ddl on l-4 and jack voting him and saying hes on "l-1" . it is OBVIOUISLY afake one for reactions right ? but then jack later on climes he really thought ddl was on l-1 all those times and though he was relly hammering here when ddl was still on L-4 cuse the town had been playing assuming jacks l-1 was legit which he shuld KNOW is not cuse it was obviously fake:

Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

comeo n guys !! i believe in you that you can see how obvious of a discrepancy this is ! i actually belive now !!!

[ralph217]

Am I dead?

No. Jackson declared intent to hammer you and asked for a claim when you were not at L1. -_-

I thought they were, all that fake L-1 bs confused the shit out of me
I hammered for a reason that I do not want to out rn

hes saying here he RELLY though that was a hammer and there is just no way . pls go back and read it yourself if you cant understand it feom the posts im linking . this is relly incriminating evidence .

[ralph217]

titus do you see what im saying here ? please tell me you can

[ralph217]

i would love to see you reply to this l-1 hammer stuff ive been talkin about jack . honestly everything else is indicative and can be argued on but that is the real incricimating evidence

[ralph217]

This is WRONG. I unvoted them, but nice cherry picking posts

i know! just wait till you get to the rest

[ralph217]

titus jack glitch talk to me on whether you udnerstnat this hammer/l-1 case . its clear as day to me but if you dont see it PLEASE talk to me . im just gonna assume youre all towm for now cuse the main focus for me should be getting this point acrtoss and getting jack limmed

[ralph217]

*titus loot glitch

[ralph217]

titus do you see what im saying here ? please tell me you can

I'll read it more for detail later today/tonight.

If you are town, you should really be suspecting looter though for his whiteknight. You look really bad here regardless of your alignment.

The reaction test point is a waste of time. Looter's was worse to me.

ok cool just read it though . i agree that when jack initially voted ddl it was prob a reaction test where he declared l-1 when it obviously wasnt but the fact he later climes that it WASNT a reaction test and he actually believed all the l-1s and really was trying to hammer ddl there (when it actually just put him on L-4 again) is what shows hes lying and scum

[ralph217]

Ah I see, that point is void. However, why would I unvote as a scum buddy only to hammer them again. If scum!me was willing to bus, why wouldn't I keep them at L-1 and push for a full-claim.

i get to that jack! keep reading

[ralph217]

Ralph, why are you trying to convince

me

that you're Town. Your "keep reading!" posts are giving that impression

you ddint know that jack . the previous vc shows ddl was on 6 votes not 9 . don't tell me now that youre climing you knew the vc was wrong all along but didnt say anything ?

[ralph217]

Ralph, why are you trying to convince

me

that you're Town. Your "keep reading!" posts are giving that impression

haha i know youre scum im just excited for you to get to it and see your reaction .

[ralph217]

VC2.05

With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate

DrDolittle (6):

ralph217, shellyc, superbowl9, NorwegianBoyEE, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe

Glitch (4):

DrDolittle, JacksonVirgo, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus

stan1ey (2):

Ydrasse, Fwesnid

NoPowerOverMe (2):

Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki

Ydrasse (1):

Bell

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

yeah look this is actually ridiculours jack knows for sure that isnt l-1 or later a hammer

dont act dumb . as shown here the vc says ddl is on 6 votes when you put him on L-1 . you climing you knew the vc was wrong all along and you meant to hammer ddl is more scumminess . i hope loot/glitch/titus understand this but maybe i should compile this all into one post if they dont

[ralph217]

you ddint read the big vc on top of the page which was 5 posts before the post you made ? the one anyone would check to see if youre putting someone on l-1 ??? no

[ralph217]

VC2.05

With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate

DrDolittle (6):

ralph217, shellyc, superbowl9, NorwegianBoyEE, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe

Glitch (4):

DrDolittle, JacksonVirgo, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus

stan1ey (2):

Ydrasse, Fwesnid

NoPowerOverMe (2):

Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki

Ydrasse (1):

Bell

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

(L-4)

DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

(Claiming it's L-1)

i believe initially jack was gonna make this look like a reaction test . its only after everyone went with it and started doing l-1s of their own that he decided to claim he actually though it was l-1 and was relly trying to hammer ddl . its great cred for the other down the line for if either of them flip

[ralph217]

good luck people ! i hope you see what im seeing and we can save this game but i wont be too mad if you don't ive had fun anyway

[ralph217]

but yeah please talk to me if you dont undseratn something

[ralph217]

fun fact:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing

[ralph217]

fun fact:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing

wot

accusing someone of flailing is actually a scumtell haha . psyche compiled the stats

[ralph217]

gliiiiiiiiiiiitch you read my case ?

[ralph217]

the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .

[ralph217]

fun fact:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing

wot

accusing someone of flailing is actually a scumtell haha . psyche compiled the stats

You're gathering these small things that aren't really AI at all and shoving them in peoples faces hoping it will catch on

nope i just thought it was funny . i can understand why youre trying to frame everything i do as scummy though .

[ralph217]

Did you not read my exact response to that

i did and i think youre lying . youre scum with ddl and definitely gonna know how many votes hes on . especially when you suspposed ly "hammerd"

[ralph217]

no... dont put words in my mouth . i think youre lying about not seeing the vc

[ralph217]

Yep, L-2

VC2.05

With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate

DrDolittle (6):

ralph217, shellyc, superbowl9, NorwegianBoyEE, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe

Glitch (4):

DrDolittle, JacksonVirgo, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus

stan1ey (2):

Ydrasse, Fwesnid

NoPowerOverMe (2):

Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki

Ydrasse (1):

Bell

Not Voting (2):

stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

loots L-2 came BEFORE the vc . while jacks L-1 came AFTER . do people see how scummy jacks being with that argument ?

[ralph217]

Did you not read my exact response to that

i did and i think youre lying . youre scum with ddl and definitely gonna know how many votes hes on . especially when you suspposed ly "hammerd"

So in extension you're calling Looter scum. Even though you said that Glitch is my partner.

here jack is implying im also calling loots scum cuse he also thought ddl was on more votes than he was . but hes choosing to overlook the fact loots' L-2 came BEFORE the vc while his L-1 came AFTER . this is incredibly disigneoous so pls realies this.

[ralph217]

the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .

Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?

yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

like how jack did earlier here:

VOTE: 72offsuit

I sense this is gonna be the wagon for tday

No more votes until claim.

>:)

VOTE: 72offsuit

[ralph217]

You SR more

outside

of the red-check?

Yes because I don't have you as locktown.
Glitch I am pretty sure is town.
You v Ralph would ham it up more if S v S. Ralph would have a definite strategy. Here the guilty seemed to surprise him, like he thought you'd check town.
If you v Ralph has just one scum and Glitch is town, Looter must be scum. His play is scummy. His role claim is scummy.

whats the case on loots? why is his clime scummy?

[ralph217]

gg i tried my best well i tried hard enough probably to not feel to bad about this .

loots and jacks im guessing .

[ralph217]

Ralph, good game brother. Please be scum.

<3 no hard feelings . i relly thougt my case on jack was good to but ah well .

[ralph217]

yeh… he played relly well

[ralph217]

what if im a supersaint and titus is also ded

[ralph217]

oh i guess youre playing it out like this cuse i could actually be vengeful . and then itd be 3 peeps and you have to play around totus bodyguard wifom play on scum or town or nothing

[ralph217]

or MAYBE youre just trolling either way its fine haha . poor glitch thoug

[ralph217]

unless hes ALSO trolling???? surely not

[ralph217]

hey titos . im eve btw didnt use any vca this time though :/

[ralph217]

Vengeful is also town only, also I doubt two would be in a game.

[ralph217]

hey titos . im eve btw didnt use any vca this time though :/

So you're an alt? uwu

arent we all alts deep down inside ?

[ralph217]

id feel better about myself if it was totus but then id feel worse about myself for changing my mind on her when i established the 1 scum in jack,totus thing

[ralph217]

maybe its norwee

[ralph217]

grumble

[ralph217]

Seriously ralph, you did really well considering

<3 well played look forward to playing with you again .

[ralph217]

ydrasse is to strong