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So taking a cursory glance at the game, I have a few developing reads, but not much yet. In general I really hate Day 1 and do much better on Day 2 and onward, because I have solid information to work with.
Before I post my reads I have a question because it's not clear: are we dealing with more than one Scum faction? Because the way I read it in the OP it feels like there being two Scum factions is definitely possible.-
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With Norwegian I'm not really sure on him one way or another. I didn't like how he kind of avoided answering that question in #46, but beyond that he hasn't really tripped my radar.-
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As forVorkuta, I don't really like how he jumped on Flavor's wagon in #18. Then in #55 he voted Layla and said her vote seemed opportunistic, yet his vote itself (to me) felt opportunistic. Lastly in #131 he wants votes on Flavor Leaf (Papa Leaf?) but he doesn't vote FL but Tea instead. These 3 events make me slightly Scumread him currently.
VOTE: Vorkuta-
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As said before I hate Day 1, and can't deal with all the speculation.
Once Day 2 begins I can actually play the game. Day 1 is just crazed paranoia and I can't deal with it, and if you want to lynch me for that and take a gamble go ahead.
Day 1 there's no weight to any wagon, and only rarely do you actually catch someone in a lie that early. So, yeah, I do lurk and stay in the background Day 1 in general, because that's my playstyle.-
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Could you please clarify why you're Townreading me?In post 601, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My reads right now.
Strong townlean
- Gamma Emerald
Townlean
- Chemist1422
- Billy Pilgrim
- Vorkuta
- Wake88
- Flavor Leaf (Changed my read on him over time)
Null
- Almost50
- davesaz
- Dunnstral
- Reundo
- PMysterious
- Fish Monger
- splitfarvle
Scumlean
- Luca Blight
- Layla
- Zote the Mighty (For post 246)
Scum:
- Tea-
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Like I said, I hate Day 1 for obvious reasons. I've got nothing to work with.
And if THAT's your reason to mislynch me, LOL. You're not going to force me to post when I hate Day 1.
I do, however, notice who acts and who doesn't in response to me saying I don't like Day 1.-
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It's more or less just speculation. Sure, sometimes you manage to catch Scum. Day 1, but more often than not it's just a lot of arguing: arguing that just wears me out.In post 724, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
Wjat do you mean by the bolded? And if it's what I think you mean, then isnt that something you have to work with?In post 709, Wake1 wrote:Like I said, I hate Day 1 for obvious reasons. I've got nothing to work with.
And if THAT's your reason to mislynch me, LOL. You're not going to force me to post when I hate Day 1.
I do, however, notice who acts and who doesn't in response to me saying I don't like Day 1.
When we have a flip, some sort of tangible evidence, I can actually work with that and play the game. I noticed how people are just jumping so quickly on my wagon with little if any resistance, but that in itself is just speculation, but it should tell you that you're going to mislynch Town. The mere fact that there's basically no resistance to my wagon should be a major red flag.
And the reason? Why, because I hate playing during Day 1? That's 100% NAI.
If I do get mislynched, take careful notice of who first shied away from my wagon and then quickly turned onto it when it seemed convenient.-
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I know I haven't contributed much and should really be replacing out instead.
It's easy to join a lot of games and then have it blow up in your face when you realize you've probably bitten off more than you can chew. I'll be waking up tonight and will look into the game, but I just can't put that much focus (re-reading and super-analyzing) that others can. What I can say is that after Day 1, assuming I survive, I become way more active because now I have tangible evidence to work with. It's just how I play in general. I struggle with Day 1.-
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I'm not Scum, and I'm not interested in your non-case, Luca. You have no reason to try and lynch me because I don't like Day 1. Now that it's almost over, I will start actively hunting Day 2 provide I survive the night.
We need a lynch. Time is running out.
VOTE: PM-
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"I know I'm not his partner" implies that you think (or know?) he's Scum.In post 876, Luca Blight wrote:A Wake lynch is better than a no-lynch.
PM is never flipping scum here - look how quickly his wagon built up with zero resistance (other than me, and I know I’m not his partner).
It’s a massively convenient and easy lynch, and there are a number of dubious players on this wagon.-
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OK, how are you so sure?In post 879, Luca Blight wrote:
Not as quickly as the Wake wagon, and not as near to deadline. And look how quickly the Wake wagon dissipated.In post 877, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Wake wagon built up quickly too.
You're claiming this wagon is scum motivated even though by your metrics, the Wake wagon would also most likely be scum motivated.
I’m not saying Wake is definitely scum as I don’t know for sure, but I’m pretty sure PM isn’t flipping red.
It's Day 1. Presuming you're Town you should not seem so sure about who is Town and who is Scum, unless you're not uninformed.-
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I will, eventually.In post 983, Flavor Leaf wrote:You found anything, Wake?-
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Vote and hammer him.In post 1021, Dunnstral wrote:What do you want us to do about it Wake?-
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Tell your teammates to come for me tonight, because I will be coming for them Day 2.In post 1028, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m actually a N1 Miller, guys. I’m gonna flip green-
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This sentence seems extra.In post 1033, Dolly Parton wrote: Too easy, Flavor Leif... too easy.-
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What do you mean Gamma?In post 1050, Gamma Emerald wrote:Aight Wake you have the floor-
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I play the game on my time, not yours.In post 1052, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean I’m letting you talk first because you’re the one who needs flips to do his thing
We just now got a flip, so you know what you've just posted is stupid and likely Scummy.
You can't expect me to read the game and express my reads a handful of minutes after a flip just happened.-
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What the hell are you talking about?In post 1056, Dolly Parton wrote:
But you knew who the NK was going to be since you have access to the scum PT.In post 1053, Wake1 wrote:
You can't expect me to read the game and express my reads a handful of minutes after a flip just happened.-
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Based on WHAT?In post 1058, Dolly Parton wrote:
Only scum have acces to the scum PT, you have access to the scum PT.In post 1057, Wake1 wrote:
What the hell are you talking about?In post 1056, Dolly Parton wrote:
But you knew who the NK was going to be since you have access to the scum PT.In post 1053, Wake1 wrote:
You can't expect me to read the game and express my reads a handful of minutes after a flip just happened.
A=B, B=A-
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Reread 1058 and 1060.In post 1063, Dolly Parton wrote:I didn't say I have a guilty. Maybe someone else does though, I don't know.
Just wanted to see how you would react
You sure as Hell said "guilty" when I asked you what your stupid assertion was based on.
Do NOT play like that, ESPECIALLY if you are Town.-
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I can definitely see Scum jumping on my wagon because they think I won't put up much of a fight.
If I get mislynched my wagon will be an excellent starting point.-
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You should take your OWN advice regarding telling people how to play.In post 1071, Dolly Parton wrote:
i said "a guilty" not "my guilty"In post 1068, Wake1 wrote:
Reread 1058 and 1060.In post 1063, Dolly Parton wrote:I didn't say I have a guilty. Maybe someone else does though, I don't know.
Just wanted to see how you would react
You sure as Hell said "guilty" when I asked you what your stupid assertion was based on.
Do NOT play like that, ESPECIALLY if you are Town.
Besides it was a little teasing.
Also, don't tell me how to play.-
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In post 915, Dolly Parton wrote:After 20 pages:
-3 Luca Blight
0 Wake88
Final Day 1 Count
-7 Luca Blight
-1 Wake88You need to explain this.
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That's asinine.In post 1108, Dolly Parton wrote:
oh do I?In post 1106, Wake1 wrote:In post 915, Dolly Parton wrote:After 20 pages:
-3 Luca Blight
0 Wake88
Final Day 1 Count
-7 Luca Blight
-1 Wake88You need to explain this.
Now.
I already have...
I am voting a SR. Maybe not my scum read with the most -s but I'm voting the right SR at the right time.
If Luca is apparently one of your worst Scumreads based on your rating system why are you voting one of your weaker Scumreads?
Unless, of course, you're either inconsistent or your rating system is arbitrary BS.-
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I would vote him, but I'm biased because he's been tunneling me all game.In post 1111, Gamma Emerald wrote:How about the fact no one else is voting Luca-
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That's not suspicious at all.In post 1144, Luca Blight wrote:I’m not claiming.-
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Tell me what I'm doing here Dunnstral.In post 1150, Dunnstral wrote:I don't really like what Wake is doing here, though-
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I worked last night, and am in bed now.
After med pass I'll look over the game from start of this Day and on.
I will make a reads list, even though I HATE making reads lists. I feel it slows my play down considerably as Town, and I do better just engaging (although I haven't had much time for that either recently). As Town I play better using direct engagement.-
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What's he at currently?
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I wasn't paying enough attention to A50.In post 1723, Dunnstral wrote:^Do you think Luca is town, and that A50 was not bussing?
Luca's been pushing me all game and trying to force me to play the game as he would play the game, which does nothing but piss me the Hell off. He could be Town, or he could be Scum and is trying very hard to try and mislynch me because he thinks I'm an easy target.-
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I mean, Luca and A50 could both be Scum, but what are the odds of that?In post 1726, Dunnstral wrote:
This post seems to assume that Luca is town, or am I wrong?In post 1722, Wake1 wrote:Well, this sucks.
Both A50 and I were on the Luca wagon, so obviously people are going to assume I'm Scum as well.-
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*Sigh*In post 1730, Luca Blight wrote:VOTE: Wake88
- Protected by both dead scum
- promised reads but ended up lurking out the day (as I anticipated)
- enters D4 with a guilty mindset
This is exactly what I was talking about.
Reads aren't really a part of how I play as Town. Sometimes I give reads, but because it's primarily based on gut reads have little value. It's the interactions where I feel things can be more easily parsed.-
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I work, a lot. And I don't like doing reads.In post 1739, Luca Blight wrote:But you promised reads, and never delivered. You deliberately lurked out the day.
I can't discuss ongoing games.
I can say that I had spent over 2 hours of my precious time writing up a reads list and it was basically spat on, which in turn made me feel it was a pointless waste of time.-
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You really want this to be your hill, don't you?In post 1741, Luca Blight wrote:Did A50 give you lessons on how to make excuses?-
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Do you think it's possible the game could be multiball?In post 1747, Dolly Parton wrote:3 or 4 scum with 18 players?-
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I think at least pressuring him is merited.In post 1750, Dolly Parton wrote:Luca wasn't on any of the lynch wagons???
That makes me want to put Luca has my #1 SR...
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I think I'd rather pressure you at L-1.In post 1754, Luca Blight wrote:Of course you do.
I’m odd-night vig. I killed Billy N1 and A50 N3.
Today we’re lynching Wake - it’s long overdue.-
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Then I'll take you with me because my mislynch will spell your demise.In post 1754, Luca Blight wrote:Of course you do.
I’m odd-night vig. I killed Billy N1 and A50 N3.
Today we’re lynching Wake - it’s long overdue.-
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This wagon is a joke.
There's literally no reason to even be voting me.
I'm at L-1. I'm not going to put effort into fighting this wagon because a lot of you are just dumb, and aren't listening.
Good job, Luca. Youtotallycaught Scum. I don't care anymore.-
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Menalque, Hectic, Reundo, and Dolly all were very quick to jump on the wagon, for NO reason.
Luca initiated the wagon. Tea held back.
Scum is definitely on my wagon. I don't know if it's Luca because he's obstinate and narrow-minded and has been tunneling on me all game.
But the other 4? Those I worry about the most.-
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