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[Wake1]

And so it begins.

[Wake1]

Oh well.

VOTE: Gamma

[Wake1]

So I gotta ask, why do you usually start out that way FL? Alignment indicative or nah?

[Wake1]

VOTE: Wake

Voting a mason, ay?

Yep. Totally.

[Wake1]

And I'll vote another one too.

VOTE: Flavor

[Wake1]

Choo Choo bitches.

[Wake1]

So I gotta ask, why do you usually start out that way FL? Alignment indicative or nah?

Where did he indicate he usually starts that way lol

Flavor is reading noncomprehension a Scumtell for this guy?^

[Wake1]

Tfw Wake has most posts
Doubt that will last

Eh, you a betting man?

[Wake1]

So I gotta ask, why do you usually start out that way FL? Alignment indicative or nah?

It’s a relatively new thing. I don’t think I have any completed games with starting out that way.

A year ago, in the same spot I claimed I was a SK.

I won that game as SK.

Good to know.

[Wake1]

Ah fuck Dolly's in this one.

[Wake1]

I told you I was gonna start that way in our mason thread

I just got access to the mason thread. Sorry didn't see it.

Got any solid reads yet?

[Wake1]

I'm also a Mason with Gamma and Dunnstral.

[Wake1]

So I gotta ask, why do you usually start out that way FL? Alignment indicative or nah?

Where did he indicate he usually starts that way lol

Flavor is reading noncomprehension a Scumtell for this guy?^

Answer the damn question
Like the only thing I see like that is a massive stretch

Listen here ya little shit. ( )

I asked him if starting a game that way was indicative of alignment, and why. And that stuff ended in question marks. You know, these little bastards: "?". That means I don't know myself.

[Wake1]

*Waiting with bated breath for Mr. Non-Chalant to pop his head in and say something*

[Wake1]

*Waiting with bated breath for Mr. Non-Chalant to pop his head in and say something*

Are you talking about Frank again?

Not that one. I don't know that one.

[Wake1]

My ass is going to bed.

If you're Scum tread lightly because I'll be in the mood for hunting.

[Wake1]

I'll be online tonight.

[Wake1]

I hate trying to catch up, and I typically play on limited access.

I also hate dealing with people driving themselves crazy with paranoia, and having to deal with that.

So, I'm claiming. I am full Town Watcher.

The only reason I'm claiming now is because I haven't had time to catch up, and the moment I post anything people will start pointing fingers for no good reason. People keep conflating activity level with alignment, and I'm sick of it. I'm tired of being mislynched for not being very active.

I'm assuming a protective role will help me tonight if not, well, that sucks.

[Wake1]

I hate trying to catch up, and I typically play on limited access.

I also hate dealing with people driving themselves crazy with paranoia, and having to deal with that.

So, I'm claiming. I am full Town Watcher.

The only reason I'm claiming now is because I haven't had time to catch up, and the moment I post anything people will start pointing fingers for no good reason. People keep conflating activity level with alignment, and I'm sick of it. I'm tired of being mislynched for not being very active.

I'm assuming a protective role will help me tonight if not, well, that sucks.

I don't want to be rude or anything but why even play at all if this is really how you feel?

There are aspects of the game I like.

And then there are ways that people play that suck, and make no logical sense. I hate being mislynched for no good reason, so I'm OK with claiming early on to head off that incoming idiocy.

Activity ≠ Alignment

[Wake1]

Oh boy our most powerful role claimed? Fun.

How would you know that's the most powerful role in this game?

[Wake1]

Wake gimme your top 3 who would you watch tonight

Too early to tell. I haven't had time to get into this game because of work. Tomorrow night around 11pm is when I'd be able to get into it.

Also if I say who my Watch targets are then Scum will just play around that.

[Wake1]

I'm tired of being mislynched for not being very active.

Same

I'm not voting you for being inactive?

Who is voting you for that reason?

I'm not talking about this game.

I'm talking about in general, my experience.

[Wake1]

I'd be open to lynching Elsa today.

[Wake1]

Amrun

, thoughts on EspressoJet?

[Wake1]

V/LA until 12/26. Merry Christmas all.

[Wake1]

If we're gonna lynch someone we need to have better reasoning shared behind it. If I ask you point-blank why we should lynch someone you should be able to tell me exactly why within 5 seconds, instead of giving me the classic—yet vague—"he's Scummy."

Espresso, why exactly do you want to lynch Elsa?

[Wake1]

she's scummy

but you can also read my ISO on why JV is still scum.

Eh, I'd rather you just tell me so I don't have to guess.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Unvote

[Wake1]

Okay, making VCs is annoying af and it's not even the flavor.

You should probably start using Thesp's automatic VC.

[Wake1]

I might be willing to consolidate on Rabid but I honestly don't think he's scummy

If you don't think he is Scummy, why be willing to consolidate?

[Wake1]

Also why the fuck would I genuinely claim a PR outside of being at L-1? I'm not Wake

VOTE: JV

From yours truly with love.

[Wake1]

OK, so I'm going to come clean right now.

I've been working way too much, and haven't been able to focus on Mafia.

I knew we went to Night 1, but I never received a PM asking to send in any Night Actions for Night 1. Receiving that would've helped.

Basically, I missed sending in my Night action. I am full Town Watcher. I'm also aware I wasn't killed last Night.

[Wake1]

I forsee lots of yelling at Wake in post game if he's town

Honestly, I don't care.

They can be mad.

[Wake1]

Unless FL actually asserts his results by name I'm not believing anything he says. I don't understand how (assuming he's Town) he makes these claims and they turn out to be lies.

[Wake1]

I also received a night start PM.

V/LA next 24-30 hours.

Happy new year

I received a Night Start PM.

I didn't get a PM that stated I was to submit any actions if I have any.

[Wake1]

Ya know what, I think I town read Wake too.

Out of curiosity, why?

[Wake1]

OK, I'm here.

Anyone here going to give me shit about claiming full Watcher?

No? Good.

I'd appreciate being protected tonight.

I have more time to focus on this game now, since one of the games I was in just ended.

[Wake1]

Anyone here going to give me shit about claiming full Watcher?

No, fool, but I will give you shit about not using your night action.

Eh, that's fair.

I work way too much.

[Wake1]

One of Dolly/Elsa is scum

I'm pretty sure MariaR is scum

FL is a flipflop

Frank is obvtown

Fuck Wake

Really?

[Wake1]

Creature, could we have a current Vote Count?

[Wake1]

Do we have a new VC or is Creature AWOL again?

[Wake1]

Which wagon has had the most resistance so far?

That in itself to me is a big tell.

[Wake1]

Maria’s at L-2?

We can just go there. Need 1 more person, I guess

Eh, I'll pass.

If she's Town I'm not interested in getting blamed for the hammer.

[Wake1]

jesus fuck, wake

Jesus fuck, Nero.

[Wake1]

Maria’s at L-2?

We can just go there. Need 1 more person, I guess

Eh, I'll pass.

If she's Town I'm not interested in getting blamed for the hammer.

Please don't forget your action tonight.

Oh, I won't.

[Wake1]

Maria’s at L-2?

We can just go there. Need 1 more person, I guess

Eh, I'll pass.

If she's Town I'm not interested in getting blamed for the hammer.

Please don't forget your action tonight.

Oh, I won't.

You should probably go ahead and submit it unless night actions can't be sent until it's officially night. I don't know how modding works in that regard.

I'd rather wait until Night 2 starts.

[Wake1]

Wake, assuming this isn't an act...

Why bother playing? Are you okay?

You should probably work on your rhetoric.

[Wake1]

Maria’s at L-2?

We can just go there. Need 1 more person, I guess

Eh, I'll pass.

If she's Town I'm not interested in getting blamed for the hammer.

Please don't forget your action tonight.

Oh, I won't.

You should probably go ahead and submit it unless night actions can't be sent until it's officially night. I don't know how modding works in that regard.

I'd rather wait until Night 2 starts.

As long as you don't let it slip your mind

No shit, Sherlock.

[Wake1]

Jailkeeper on me, Watcher on LuV, any other unclaimed town protective on Wake

Thoughts?

I'd rather leave it open on Wake being on either me or LUV, but okay.

VOTE: Maria

Still can't believe you. All made me have to reveal Damnit.

You claimed?

[Wake1]

Because 5-6 people tried to quick lynch me last night, yes.

It wasn't fun when I almost just lynched Maria and stayed hidden until day 3. Sigh.

You mean Day 1?

[Wake1]

I need everyone to list the top 3 players they absolutely refuse to vote today and the one player they'd be willing to vote today.

[Wake1]

No you don't, you need to claim your results, and so does Elsa

I will today

[Wake1]

Wake, did you get a result or were you roleblocked?

I wasn't roleblocked.

What did Elsa claim again?

[Wake1]

Before I say anything I want everyone is n this game to start talking.

[Wake1]

I'm waiting for our "investigative" to get a result. Either or at this point.

I targeted Espresso. He’s town.

What was your exact claimed role again?

Humor me.

[Wake1]

I need to hear more from Frank, Rabid, Dolly, Zote, Nero, and Gamma.

[Wake1]

I have nothing to tell about any night actions.

Did you claim a PR or no?

[Wake1]

Bitch I already did, do shit yourself.

Who are you Scumreading currently?

[Wake1]

Then I want Wake to claim his target

Who are you Scumreading currently?

[Wake1]

Frank, did you get a message last night?

Putting things aside for now, who are you currently willing to lynch (don't say me(.

[Wake1]

Well there's 11 of us. If I legit eliminate you 2 claiming PRs, assume Frank as just a VT now, and take LUV's clears, there's 6 other guys left with 3 scum minimum.

So if I had to choose anyone elsa left, I'd say Nero, with Gamma/Rabid being after him for biggest scumread.

Who are you not willing to vote today?

[Wake1]

I'm waiting on Zote and the others to respond. Specifically the latter that haven't posted yet.

[Wake1]

Dunnstral, are you feeling timid at all?

I'd like you to jump in more, too.

[Wake1]

I want you and that Elsa fool to claim your results. I have nothing to add otherwise.

I have nothing to tell about any night actions.

I'll talk about my result (if any) sometime Day 3 for sure.

What I want is for everyone to contribute.

[Wake1]

I'm waiting for our "investigative" to get a result. Either or at this point.

I targeted Espresso. He’s town.

What was your role again?

[Wake1]

Zote, do me a liquid, and vote Rabid.

I'm gonna ISO them before/if I do

Eh after doing some ISOing on the top two wagoned, I like this better

VOTE: Jackson

Thoughts on Rabid currently?

[Wake1]

I have nothing to tell about any night actions.

Did you claim a PR or no?

I didn't claim anything.

Ah. OK.

Thoughts on Dunnstral, Gamma, and Zote?

[Wake1]

I have nothing to tell about any night actions.

Did you claim a PR or no?

I didn't claim anything.

Ah. OK.

Thoughts on Dunnstral, Gamma, and Zote?

Had you asked me yesterday I would have probably TR all 3. The FL kill has me questioning everything right now. I still need a little more processing time and then I'll see if I can find any VCA stuff.

I'd rather have you stream your thoughts currently, rather than wait.

I'm not sure what the FL kill has to do with Gamma, and Zote, and me, but ok

Was that question inserted in there?

What are your thoughts on Gamma, Zote, and Dolly?

I want you to tell me what your reads are. Just the highlights. Who you're willing to vote and who you're not. I'm not expecting resistance.

[Wake1]

Did they reveal how many Neighbors there were?

It wouldn't surprise me if at least one Scum was within a Hood.

[Wake1]

Should we kill Flavor?

No, I forgot that he crumbed mason early on. And he's right. I'm not a mason, but I am in a 2-person hood. Pairings seem to be the theme. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a PT cop, that seems trendy.

Thank you, Dunn.

What do you think of lynching the remaining Neighbor today?

[Wake1]

I cannot tell if that Dolly fool is bad town or just scum but either way my vote is going there for now.

VOTE: Dolly

Bad vote

Dolly, you're either stupid town or stupid scum

Could you further explain this, please?

[Wake1]

I see no need for resistance. I

really

don't understand this resistance.

I

don't

want to have to think some players are nervous and just waiting to know if I have a result so they then know how to proceed.

Again, please explain 1556

[Wake1]

It

really

wouldn't surprise me if there was more than 1 Scum on the JV mislynch.

[Wake1]

We've got time.

All I ask is that there are no quick-lynches without my input Day 3.

[Wake1]

I'm waiting for our "investigative" to get a result. Either or at this point.

Did you jailkeep me?

Frankly the optimal scum play would be to kill the Watcher, since I'm indecisive and couldn't guard them tonight.

They didn't do that for a reason, Dunn.

Was the above question for-sure answered?

[Wake1]

I'm thinking we take FL's advice and go either Elsa or Rabid.

I know I was also on FL's FOS scum team but that is obviously wrong. However, I don't think he gets all 3 of us wrong.

Nero is potentially deep wolfing here.

VOTE: Rabid

Wanna vote Gamma, Zote, or Nero with me instead?

[Wake1]

I mean really, why exactly Rabid again? Just curious.

[Wake1]

I'm thinking we take FL's advice and go either Elsa or Rabid.

I know I was also on FL's FOS scum team but that is obviously wrong. However, I don't think he gets all 3 of us wrong.

Nero is potentially deep wolfing here.

VOTE: Rabid

Wanna vote Gamma, Zote, or Nero with me instead?

I have nothing against lynching those slots eventually. Rabid just sticks out to me rn more because of FL's reads and I think that's the 1st slot I would like to sort today barring no krass night action info to come.

I don't have the time to do a proper re-read in one sitting atm but I'll get my VCA and stuff later on.

...just not today?

Not sure how to read this, considering..

[Wake1]

I cannot tell if that Dolly fool is bad town or just scum but either way my vote is going there for now.

VOTE: Dolly

Although I could get on board with LUV as well since I don't like his reaction to Gamma's vote

^I read that too, Rabid

Elsa and Dolly are my top two, would anyone like to join in on either?

I'm already on Dolly. I could also do Elsa.

VOTE: LUV

Even if i disagree with Dolly I'm townreading the honesty.

Possible Dolly/Elsa team noted.

Do you still have Dolly/Else/LUV as your lynchpool or no?

I'm debating which one of these to start pressuring first.

[Wake1]

I really don't understand this resistance.

It rubs people the wrong way when you barely play for two days, then come in barking orders like you're the town leader. That shouldn't be difficult to understand.

What shouldn't be difficult to understand is that I am here

now

and you must get over it

now

.

[Wake1]

I have short bursts of time for quick RT posts for now. I'll get to that VCA stuff today as in Jan 9th (like in a few hours probably).

Very much looking forward to it.

[Wake1]

Wanna vote Gamma, Zote, or Nero with me instead?

I would. Gamma was in my lynch pool yesterday. Nero's post on Flav was gross, and both he and Zote are in Maria's watch list.

People I'm probably not voting today: Dolly, Elsa (pass for a day due to Maria's reads), Espresso, LUV

Hard nulls: Dunn, Frank

Please tell me in order who of those three you'd be willing to lynch first.

[Assuming you are Town, please work with me on this.]

[Wake1]

What shouldn't be difficult to understand is that I am here now and you must get over it now.

What shouldn't be difficult to understand is that you should work with people instead of being a cunt. Words like must don't sit well with me, and probably some others. You have done exactly NOTHING for town this game. You're the guy who supposedly has a PR but FORGOT TO USE IT. You have no standing to be barking orders.

The

only

reason I'm not chewing your head off and savoring the waxy bits is because I think you

could

be Town.

I don't care if you don't like my activity level. It's irrelevant I'm here

now

.

[Wake1]

Flavor Leaf:

Frank, Rabid Schnauzer, MariaR, Dolly Parton, Elsa Jay

MariaR:

Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain, Dolly Parton, Espressojet, Rabid Schnauzer, Elsa Jay

On Both Wagons:

Rabid, Dolly, Elsa

On Neither Wagon:

Dunn, Wake, Zote

Add in the JV Wagon

Not on any of the 3 wagons:

Dunn, Wake

VOTE: Dunn

Elsa is now 2nd on my FOS list.

Is there more to your reasoning than that?

Why vote Dunnstral besides me or Zote?

Both Dunn and I weren't on any of those 3 wagons, and despite me knowing I'm Town you wouldn't know I am, correct?

[Wake1]

Furthermore Dolly, wouldn't you be more inclined to vote those players who were on both mislynch wagons?

[Wake1]

It wouldn't surprise me if one of the Scum were on both wagons and one of the Scum were on neither.

[Wake1]

Both Dunn and I weren't on any of those 3 wagons, and despite me knowing I'm Town you wouldn't know I am, correct?

I have said that I'll believe your claim until/if it is somehow proven to be a false claim.

While that does sound great for me on this front it doesn't help me think differently regarding your alignment.

Scum could very easily say the very same thing.

[Wake1]

Furthermore Dolly, wouldn't you be more inclined to vote those players who were on both mislynch wagons?

I was on those wagons and I am town and just going by pure numbers it's then either Rabid or Elsa. I've made a 180 degree turn on my rabid read today because I feel his posts are towny today.

Also I said Elsa is my number 2 FOS.

So far please list who you'd refuse to lynch today.

That would be very helpful.

[Wake1]

Luv says he has an inno on me (which you're now ignoring, by the way) - you say that if a jailkeeper targetted me, it would negate Luv's claim of having targeted me. Pretty clear misunderstanding of what jailkeeper does.

Please forgive me but did LUV reveal what role he claimed?

[Wake1]

I’m an investigative type of role.

Not going to claim what it actually is so hammer away.

Then where is your N1 info if you are expecting a hammer?

I targeted Dunn.

He’s town.

Zero idea what he is. Out of curiosity, do you think he'd actually claim what he is? Thinking he could be gambiting scum. Expecting a claim from LUV today.

I wonder if you'd rather pressure LUV instead, perhaps? Seems like the right move to me.

Should Dunnstral flip scum then the LUV should be lynched. Could be he's just a scum PR. Unless LUV states his PR he's a dead man either today or tomorrow. Methinks one of them will flip scum soon.

[Wake1]

Flavor Leaf:

Frank, Rabid Schnauzer, MariaR, Dolly Parton, Elsa Jay

MariaR:

Lil Uzi Vert, Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain, Dolly Parton, Espressojet, Rabid Schnauzer, Elsa Jay

On Both Wagons:

Rabid, Dolly, Elsa

On Neither Wagon:

Dunn, Wake, Zote

Add in the JV Wagon

Not on any of the 3 wagons:

Dunn, Wake

VOTE: Dunn

Elsa is now 2nd on my FOS list.

Interesting analysis. IIRC one of Mastina's guides says to look

off

the wagon of a town lynch, even though that's counter-intuitive.

Interesting.

Gun to head, which two do you think it could be?

[Wake1]

Gun to head, which two do you think it could be?

Dunn 1st then Elsa. But I think a dunn red flip makes elsa go red as well.

Off the wagons?

(Just pointing out I was asking Rabid.)

[Wake1]

Gun to head, which two do you think it could be?

If you're referring to those off the wagons (Dunn, Wake Zote) I'd look to Zote first, then Dunn. Really at this point I'd look at Zote only. Dunn's been cleared by LUV (not saying I believe that 100% but it would be a bold move if both are scum), and I'm town reading you due to claim and today's play.

Huh.

Want to vote him?

I'm not comfortable with his current activity level. Same with Nero and a couple others Day 3.

[Wake1]

I'm not comfortable with his current activity level.

Did you read what he said D3?

[Wake1]

I want you and that Elsa fool to claim your results. I have nothing to add otherwise.

Then I want Wake to claim his target

I happen to agree with him, though.

He should be having more to add. Same with Nero and a couple others.

That's the point.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Nero

Gun to head, which two do you think it could be?

If you're referring to those off the wagons (Dunn, Wake Zote) I'd look to Zote first, then Dunn. Really at this point I'd look at Zote only. Dunn's been cleared by LUV (not saying I believe that 100% but it would be a bold move if both are scum), and I'm town reading you due to claim and today's play.

[Wake1]

Spoiler:

I might be willing to consolidate on Rabid but I honestly don't think he's scummy

I actually like that case on Maria and see it coming from town, but i may be just glossing over it. Regardless, I think espresso’s town

It's not even a 'case' more so as baseless statements that don't add up to much. So tell me what you like about it?

I think it adds up to the fact that you've contributed

zero town behavior

this entire game

That's sadly not unusual if the one game I've played with her is anything to go off of. In all honesty Maria is most likely town.

I don't think it's more likely for someone saying they want to vote someone "for now" to come from scum than it is from town.
Unless Rabid is considering it a scumslip, in which case I still don't see it.

I think Rabid's point is that saying 'i'm gonna vote them for a little bit' implies that you know you're gonna switch your vote whereas saying i'm voting them 'for now' means your vote could move or stay on them.

I don't necessarily think it's scum indicative but it does raise my eyebrows a little bit.

Zote, if you’re town, you know I NEVER claim VT here, and stick to it from so early.

I think you're town and would rather not lynch you

PEDIT: Join me on voting Dolly then

UNVOTE:
Several notable town reads given on people who were becoming lynchable. This doesn't look like scum.

You're not interested in voting him today?

[Wake1]

Not at this point.

...how about at least to pressure?

[Wake1]

Dunnstral, what out of Elsa, Dolly, and Rabid...

Which ones get lynched today, and which ones would you refuse to vote for?

[Wake1]

Not at this point.

...how about at least to pressure?

It doesn't pressure when they know you're only doing it for pressure. Plus, there are other suspects.

OK.

[Wake1]

I’m a Neapolitan.

So it only works on VTs?

So is a Mafia Goon was selected what would be the result?

[Wake1]

Dunn, what did you mean about a message?

[Wake1]

I did not even know Alien was a new role on the Normal list.

So it's basically a powered up JK and only Town can be an Alien?

[Wake1]

Wait no Alien can be either alignment.

[Wake1]

I'm waiting for our "investigative" to get a result. Either or at this point.

I targeted Espresso. He’s town.

I’m a Neapolitan.

So Rabid, if LUV got an "innocent" on his target, it wouldn't be "he's Town," but "target is a VT"?

I'm trying to parse this together so there's no discrepancies.

[Wake1]

I think any alignment can be Alien, Wake, it's just a version of Jailkeeper that also turns someone ascetic. I just happen to be town this game.

It actually correlates with your Watcher claim since he made it so you can't confirm me visiting someone if I Alien them, unlike you seeing a Jailkeeper.

I'm a semi-check to your role so you can't watch and confirm me.

Duly noted.

Just to make sure, you targeted Dunn?

And your action does not necessarily clear him?

[Wake1]

If Dunn sent a message, but you Alien'd him, would he still be able to send a message to Frank?

[Wake1]

*If it's not apparent this is me Towntelling all of Day 3 trying to figure all this shit out.

[Wake1]

No, that part makes sense. "Town" is his Vanilla Townie result.

What is the discrepancy is Dunn at the moment claiming something different.

Wouldn't "is VT," or something of the sort, be his Innocent result?

LUV, what

exactly

was the result you received verbatim?

[Wake1]

Dunn I need you to explain the message thing you mentioned.

[Wake1]

OK, I'm done waiting on the lurkers, so I can drop this charade. I'm going to bed soon, and I don't want a lynch happening while I sleep before I can anything. I did crumb heavily my result in 1611.

I watched Flavor Leaf Night 2. I figured he usually gets targeted for the NK. So caught who killed Flavor Leaf Night 2, and I was HOPING to get him to talk MORE to figure out who he'd vote (or not vote).

Zote murdered Flavor Leaf.

I will hammer him.

And I want Dunn to explain himself; he couldn't have sent a message if he was Alien'd.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Zote

And YOU I was trying to get to the bottom of.

He was parked on YOU for the longest time, and is easily a Scum tactic.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Zote

And YOU I was trying to get to the bottom of.

He was parked on YOU for the longest time, and is easily a Scum tactic.

*And that is easily a Scum tactic.

[Wake1]

If anyone can protect me Night 3, please do, or I'm SO dead.

[Wake1]

*Also

only

Zote targeted FL Night 2.

[Wake1]

That would be me, Wake, but I stop anything you can do.

Then have Scum think there's a possibility you'll target me Night 3.

Can they really afford to target me with the NK N3 if there's a chance you protect me?

Because regardless we'll just lynch Dunn next. Or LUV.

[Wake1]

Actually, if you say you watch me, then they basically do a double gamble of being seen again with another kill if I didn't alien you.

I like that idea.

Consider yourself Townread by me

currently

. We'll see how this unfolds.

[Wake1]

This is

WHY

I was trying to stir up activity, because I had a Confirmed Scum result.

*Looks directly at the Asshats that gave me grief*

[Wake1]

Noted, but please no more votes on Zote so he can't quickhammer himself.

We solve the LUV-Dunn situation

OK.
UNVOTE:

And YOU, I was checking over and over why you wouldn't vote/lynch Zote today.

He is SCUM.

[Wake1]

I only give you grief because you did nothing night 1, never because you tried to get activity.

It happens. I'm HUMAN.

And at least we made up for it N2.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Zote

[Wake1]

VOTE: gamma emerald ye this is scum

If Zote's Scum we're hanging your ass next for trying to Dave him.

Put your vote on Zote. Now.

[Wake1]

*Save him

[Wake1]

This game is getting way too toxic.

If you're Town Frank, stop being a complete asshole.

[Wake1]

Nobody visited my target Elsa Jay Night 3

[Wake1]

What if it's a 4 scum game since town is stacked even if luv/nero were both lying about their roles?

Is 4 Scum in a 15-player game (regardless of PRs) balanced? Feels like a lot of Scum.

[Wake1]

I think, to be safe, we

should

assume there's 4 Scum.

[Wake1]

If our town power is really that strong, and there's a potential for a UB to take over watcher, I'd think a ninja would not be gated in this scenario

Exactly. So I guess I gotta ask this:

Wake: do you have any other modifiers at all you haven't mentioned?

No.

[Wake1]

Despite his controversial claim I think it's best to assume wake to be conftown unless we get to LYLO

Same for elsa if she gets us a scum lynch today

Could you explain that line of thought.

[Wake1]

Elsa did you claim your target yet?

[Wake1]

Is it possible Scum would gamble by deliberately not killing, and so whoever Elsa would target would look Scummy?

[Wake1]

Gutcheck, it's saying Dunnstral.

Not sure what to make of it.

[Wake1]

I want to know who you targeted for the block, Elsa.

I'm getting impatient waiting for LUV.

[Wake1]

Wait nvm, just read LUV's post and the other posts.

[Wake1]

Setup spec wise I think the neighbor is scum if luv is town, but I'm not certain of either

Do you normally argue this as Town?

[Wake1]

VOTE: EspressoJet

[Wake1]

... Um.

What?

DID YOU TARGET EJ OR SOMEONE ELSE FOR THE BLOCK?

[Wake1]

Because you JK/Alien'd him and there was no NK.

[Wake1]

I'm so fucking confused and I'm exhausted from work.

(I'm not normally like this. I'm not doing well right now.)

[Wake1]

Setup spec wise I think the neighbor is scum if luv is town, but I'm not certain of either

Do you normally argue this as Town?

Chill out detective I'm claiming FN

I don't think that answered the question though...

[Wake1]

UNVOTE: Espresso

[Wake1]

Do any of the PR results designate someone most like as Scum to be lynched today?

[Wake1]

I'd be willing to hammer Nero if another vote is required.

Would like to know what he has to say at L-1 first though.

Also was Espresso and Frank cleared?

[Wake1]

If Dunnstral is literally a Friendly Neighbor shouldn't I be watching him? Assuming he's legit he's sending Conftown information to people.

[Wake1]

For those of you curious and all super ready to lynch whoever I jailed....

I jailed EspressoJet, funnily enough.

You know, I don't think I have enough answers here. I don't like this.

You jailed Espresso Jet. We had no NK.

Why exactly are we not lynching Espresso Jet again?

Did Scum have a reason to target him? Did he claim anything Day 1 or 2?

[Wake1]

Why exactly are we not lynching Espresso Jet again?

Because LUV says that he is vanilla town.

When did LUV target Espresso and got that result?

[Wake1]

Because if it was Day 2 that's impossible because Elsa made Espresso Ascetic with his Alien PR, making it so the Vanilla Cop ability couldn't affect Espresso.

[Wake1]

It was night 2, and elsa targeted espresso on night 3

OK, that is what I needed to know.

Thank you.

[Wake1]

Protect me tonight Elsa, please.

[Wake1]

Or not. Make Scum uncertain.

[Wake1]

If pisskop flips Town I will be deciding my own moves for sure.

[Wake1]

There should've been 4 Scum.