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Nothing at all, I didn't question the existence of the wagon, simply the choice of targets. Trying to use the wagon to stimulate a little activity and information, which is what a wagon is good for, no?CoolBot wrote:
What's wrong with a good wagon to start out the game?Surye wrote:Though is it pretty interesting PEG and ABR also both have 3 votes each... Why are they so wagonable?-
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I thought you're done with the random voting stage? This sounds like you're just egging it on.Adel wrote:
Ecto has a Depeshe Mode quote in his sig... IRL that is enough for me to put machine oil in his coffee.Rosso Carne wrote:
nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.Adel wrote:Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?
Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.-
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I don't know how I could vote for someone who randomly quotes Blade Runner. But some how I will pull through.Adel wrote:I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.-
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Adel wrote:
actual sequence of events:Surye wrote:I call him out, and he responds by just saying he'll vote for me, I thought that was OMGUS. Perhaps I misunderstand, but I'm not sure why else he would say he'd vote me without saying anything else as to why.
1. you voted for me
2. i voted for you
3. ecto voted for you
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you call OMGUS on Ecto.
does not compute,
advise quicklynch of Surye under LAL
I find it really convenient you left this out of your sequence, since that immediately preceded his call to vote me.Surye wrote:FoS: Ectofor being too scummy to be scum.
And to justify what I was saying, he's "playing" at having control of this game, that we'll lynch who he wants us to. I found this really suspicious as it allows him to say things with the fall-back of joking.-
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Hmm, so you're right, I forgot the vote order since up till now it was mostly non-sense voting, and when he said his vote was on me, for some reason I was thinking he wasAdel wrote:he voted youBEFOREyou placed a FOS on him.threateninga vote on me.
I don't see how it's scummy as hell though. If his first vote was from the random voting stage, and after I FoS him, he solidifies it into a real vote, I still stand by my OMGUS. If it's not, then that means he actually meant something by his first vote on my, and that sets you and Ecto as having an agenda.
Either way, Ecto is implicated, so I think I'm on the right track, and the way you are responding makes me really suspicious of you.-
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Yes, I try to provoke discussion, I don't see what's wrong with that. It worked as usual, and as usual, it attracted a lot of attention to me, but if you read what I am saying, you'd see Ecto and Adel areshaft.ed wrote:I agree with Adel. I also found Surye to be trying to hard to look proactive before this broke.
unvote vote: Surye
Would any of the other eleven people signed up for this game like to post?
acting very odd.
And @Adel, how is you defending ecto's OMGUS (you've cleared it up, that's what it was) not suspicious?-
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Because Adel seemed serious about it, and everyone who has posted seems to agree. But looking at it again, that's not that many, I guess I started feeling a snowball growing behind me for no reason. Guess I'm getting ahead of myself. But if this is just their play style, then I am not sure what I have for this game yet.-
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Wrong about what OMGUS is, and wrong about how Ecto was acting. I explained what I meant when I said "too scummy to be scum", whether my logic was wrong or not, I was not lying. I have a tendency to over post my foot into my mouth, and that's what happened here, I don't know what else to say, other then show me where it's scummy and not just me being an idiot, and I'll do my best to address that.-
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... I guess I had reason to be paranoid. What the hell did I do to deserve L-1? I thought I explained myself pretty well, I was just a little overzealous in the begining, trying to get out of the random voting stage, I wasn't being scummy, I just don't like sitting around while everyone is afraid to say anything. So I was wrong and my logic was off, I explained my self every step of the way, it's not like I was leading some pointed campaign against anyone, hell, I didn't even vote anyone once the game got more serious.
You're all going to lynch me of a FoS and a miss use of OMGUS, which I explained why I mixed that up?-
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Heh, You think the game was getting serious there?Adel wrote:Surye wrote:I didn't even vote anyone once the game got more serious.
trying to revise historySurye wrote:How is that even close to anti-town?
Unvote, Vote:AdelThere, we're out of the random voting stage.
Heh, no no no, what I did didn't make me an idiot. I think I was still correct in my overall action, which was to stimulate conversation, the OMGUS thing I used it wrong.Adel wrote: ...
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attempt to use Idiot defense to absovle yourself from responsibility.Surye" wrote:I have a tendency to over post my foot into my mouth, and that's what happened here, I don't know what else to say, other then show me where it's scummy and not just me being an idiot, and I'll do my best to address that.
Question for everyone in the game so I can learn a little better, what is this:
.. very next post ..Surye wrote:How is that even close to anti-town?
Unvote, Vote:AdelThere, we're out of the random voting stage.Adel wrote:unvote, vote:Surye
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I don't plan on claiming, people seem ready to talk now, so I hope we can get this sorted out.
And I don't know what you mean Coolbot by the game getting somewhere, it's only page 6, and we've just recently started talk of substance, the game getting on means end D1 with only a couple pages of discussion?FoS: Coolbot
Also, 'outrage' is a very poor wordchoice.-
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I count 2 unvotes, Ecto and Adel, that's a third of the wagon, not to mention the two most vocal about the wagon.CoolBot wrote:Are you kidding me, shaft? One unvote is a dying wagon? The only reason it was dying was that Albert whined about it, not for any reasonable defense by Surye. I think a claim is justified at this point. It only being 6 or 7 pages in doesn't change that.-
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Defend myself against what? I've explained every word I have said over and over.CoolBot wrote:Hmm, I thought that was L-1, too. I should've checked.
That doesn't change the fact I want a claim, or at least a defense from Surye other than "trying to generate discussion". That's what a bandwagon is for - to force someone to have to defend oneself and, yes, to claim. Letting him go without doing so is folly.-
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Don't forget the Jedi hand wave.Ectomancer wrote:
I'll explain your vote:Rosso Carne wrote:someone cite a coolbot vote reason please for me.
You don't feel like reading, so to contribute to the game without the effort, you are going to put Coolbot at L-1 so he can claim and we can all decide to lynch him or not. Simon says.-
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What have I left undefended? I asked you once already, so now I'll ask you to quote what you mean, but it doesn't seem that you can..CoolBot wrote:The problem is that there was a bandwagon on him and I saw him do nothing to defend himself from reasonable attacks. Allowing that is a recipe for failure.-
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Interesting, while I am appreciative of ABR having my back, I find it interesting that you completely ignored him in your analysis, when he's the one that actively derailed the bandwagon, and began pointing out CoolBot's behavior.Tarhalindur wrote:Back after a week of relative inactivity.
The big question of the last six pages: why the hell was Surye not forced to claim when he reached L-2?
Oh wait, that's an easy question: Surye didn't have to claim because Ecto (and to a lesser extent Adel) derailed the wagon just after it reached L-2 and before Surye was forced to claim.
I'm not going to fault CoolBot for wanting a claim out of someone who should have been forced to claim 3 pages ago. I do, however, think Ectomancer's derailing the Surye wagon and many, many questions asked while giving only a few of his own thoughts indicates that Ecto is fairly likely to be scum.
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Hmm, I had not read farside's sig (congrats!), and with that in mind, the small tell of being somewhat lurkerish really doesn't seem likely to be a scumtell.Unvote
Coolbot it still probably my most suspicious candidate in the game. He is still hung up on one wagon like 3 wagons ago, which WAS me, but that's not what has my attention, there have been wagons since that he has not been so stubborn and head long about.
Adel/ABR dynamics have me a little confused right now, I'll need to think about this exchange a bit, but I have a feeling scum is on one side of it.
Rosso Carne's lack of voting once (by my count) seems really suspicious to me, just not participating in the game in any substantial way.
I don't get the case against Ectomancer that has come up a few times, I think he's just been a scapegoat for people getting wagoned.
Vote: CoolbotFor the win.-
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I'm with you on this, my best guess is that ABR is connecting these two, and shaft.ed is just reading into it wrong.pickemgenius wrote:
i'm not seeing what you're seeing.shaft.ed wrote:Coolbot and Adel are starting to look tied together. Even better to lynch the Bot, we might resolve two birds with one stone.-
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Hmm.. Underline is mine where I don't know what he is talking about :/Kison wrote:Surye : He is fine up until he starts badgering Ectomancer about the improperly attributed OMGUS vote. Continues to claim it was OMGUS even after Adel explained the order of vote placements.Later complains that Ectomancer has too much control of the game(huh?). Vote on Coolbot is fine.Suggesting either Coolbot or MM should be vigged, not so much.Vote on Farside I do not like at all.
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I don't see where I said anything about ecto having too much control. I may have seemed to imply it or something, but I can't find the post or it's relevance.
And I never suggested that MM should be vigged, you read that wrong, I said that if CB were to be vigged maybe a vote on MM (not a vig) would be better. But in hindsight, I guess I don't know when a vig is a good thing to have? But I also wasn't suggesting a CB vig either, ABR suggested it, I just simply reacted to it, and I never actually unvoted him. So you were wrong on both counts there (though rereading the post I can see how the part about MM could be miss read).
Not even really defending anything there, just curious what you meant on some of the points.-
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Deadline: May 1, 10PM ESTfarside22 wrote:
When should he claim? Although a RB is more scum in games that I've played then town. With a deadline and people piling votes I think him claiming is reasonable. However RB is a hard thing for me to swallow. I have seen town and scum RB, but most time they are scum.shaft.ed wrote:
An L-3 claim. Are you losing your nerve Albert?Albert B. Rampage wrote:Role-blocker here. Unvote kthx.
I also think Coolbot's "claim" comments are not as meaningless as Elias states.
Can someone tell me when deadline is. I honestly don't have time to look it up at this point.
Also, remember, this IS a meta breaking game, and what you're used to about roles is supposed to be challenged. That given, a L-3 claim does seem quite premature.-
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Because the current bickering over silly tells like insults has drown out any real play for a while. I need to put more effort then usual into finding real content worth posting about. I'm currently at work, but I will do so tonight.shaft.ed wrote:Surye I'd like to know why you've developed lock jaw since the earlier portion of this game?-
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Xtoxm is my current top suspicious guy, because he keeps suggesting we lynch people on really illogical or irrelevant or just wrong reasons.
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I say we kill PEG...shaft.ed wrote:
Have to agree this seems a bit of a weak argument. What say you Tommy?pickemgenius wrote:Xtoxm wrote:I find that insulting people tends to come from scum.
I think I could go with a Elias lynch.
ZOMG SOMEONE WAS A MEANIE HE MUST BE SCUM....!!!!
And he's contributing nothing, I don't care if he says he never does, it's not being helpful, he should die.Xtoxm wrote:
You have not proven it. If you did it only twice as town, but every game as scum it would still classify as a scum-tell.Further, I've just proven that your insulting tell doesnt work for me. Its still your move.
I don't like these posts at all, they do not feel like scumhunting.Xtoxm wrote:Ok. Well he's doing it on purpose, i'm not.
And atleast i'm attacking someone...
I am also not liking the way PEG is playing, but I think everyone's right when they say PEG is playing like PEG, which just happens to be annoying and overly abrasive, oh well.-
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But there is a difference between not scumhunting and not posting, and posting but not scum hunting.shaft.ed wrote:
I think that argument can be made for over half the players in this game. This is officially a lurkerfest. We need to decide on which lurker to wagon to victory. My votes on Rosso.Surye wrote:Same goes for Xtoxm's predecessor, camiside. No attempt at scumhunting whatsoever.
Camiside was doing the first, Xtoxm is doing the second. That just rubs me wrong.-
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I'm not sure what to say on this thread, but Adel was seeming to shadow Ecto quite a bit. I don't like the way Shaft.ed put it, sounded way too WIFOM, but ABR is the one who put effort into stopping my wagon. Coolbot's second wagon makes sense still in hindsight, as misguided as it may have been.
A lot of people are using strange arguments in this last wagon against me, and I'm not sure how to respond.
Proven town tried to derail it too. And? It wasn't until coolbot started playing bad that the wagon on me derailed. Adel's play absolved her of any responsibility if I had been lynched, and shown as town.Elias_the_thief wrote:
proven scum that started the wagon jumped off for no good reason when it got serious? How is that not good enough reason?pickemgenius wrote:shaft.ed wrote:So I really need to devote more time to this game.
Can we bandwagon Surye already?
so.... still not seeing where this is a good idea...
unvote, vote: surye
This makes no sense, you have a case against me or xtoxm? I can't tell.Gorrad wrote:Still don't believe Xotxm a lick, but I'm cool with a bit more Surye lynching.Unvote, Vote: Surye. That's L-2 if it's six to lynch, L-3 if it's seven. Not sure which.-
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Because of how hard she was railing me, when I came up town, she would be suspect number 1, and she probably forsaw the possibility she may die before me, and setup an easy mislynch. This is obvious speculation as I have no idea why she was railing me, and then forgot about me, but as I see it, her buddy buddy with ecto is no more an obvious play then her dropping off my wagon, so I'm not sure why you're focusing on that.shaft.ed wrote:Gorrad what do you think of Ecto?
Surye why do you think Adel gave up on your wagon when you were at L-1?
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