Large Normal 220: Jazz Mafia [Game Over!]

[Tet]

I quite like this playerlist. One of you might even be worthy.


VOTE: LucianRoy

[Tet]

TLK is town which is excellent. Krazy can be on my good side for now since I still need his vote and more if possible.

[Tet]

Sounds right, very astute.

[Tet]

A rebel among boys.

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Sounds like a paradox but I won't fight it.

[Tet]

Well you're winning me over so I'll be rooting for them.

Betting on the other guys but I'm with you in spirit.

[Tet]

I already invited FL to tango- (Boogie? Swing? What do you jazz to?)
You can have the next one.

Also nice pagetop @sky

Is this a scumclaim?

[Tet]

Krazy going lower on my list for outing my secret scumread.

[Tet]

I already invited FL to tango- (Boogie? Swing? What do you jazz to?)
You can have the next one.

Also nice pagetop @sky

Is this a scumclaim?

Considering that Vorkuta voted FL already this game, I'd say this is a double scum claim.

You can't get more town than you are right now.

[Tet]

3. 2. 1. Let's jam.

[Tet]

As a mason i would like to inform you I dont like your lists
Too many lists and not enough nails

*Pat's Lucian wagon*

This bad boy can hold so many votes.

[Tet]

Pagetop hot potato.

[Tet]

Is this a scumclaim?

The opposite- town!vork gets more pagetops than scum!vork

0 pagetops. It checks out.

[Tet]

Ty fire, a true hero.

[Tet]

Here ill repeat it

Who are the players to watch out for

Not it.

[Tet]

Here ill repeat it

Who are the players to watch out for

Boon and Skitter

How have you not gotten that yet?

FL has a ton of tells but Scum!Skitter scares me and I don't think I can say I'd catch her with any certainty.

[Tet]

Might've been jumping to conclusions earlier on the mason claim thing. Baezu never really confirmed nor denied anything.

I do however think TLK is reaching on his tr for Baezu, which could be indicative of scum but idk. Waiting to see more from that slot in general b/c I liked the short exchange we had earlier.

Tentative townread on Firebringer b/c of his back and forths. The townhunting definitely injected life into the thread.

TLK townread on Baezu is just idiotic, I don't think its scum or town.

Actually why I'm townreading tlk. On the flip side i want this Lucian wagon more than ever.

[Tet]

yo everyone
checking in

my availability will be patchy for the next three days pls dont post too much
VOTE: BuJ

Curious if there's a specific reason for this vote.

[Tet]

I'm town.

This is concerning

I'm only concerned because I agree.

[Tet]

I mean iirc Skitter won a scummy from her scumplay. No big deal though.

[Tet]

I like FL less for reigning saudade.

I think Krazy/fire/tlk is a decent town block for pre-page 10.

[Tet]

I like FL less for reigning saudade.

I think Krazy/fire/tlk is a decent town block for pre-page 10.

townie.

It's also a callback to a game where Saudade sheeped me relentlessly for up to 4 day phases.

That's why I didn't like it.

[Tet]

Saudades response is town though so I'll buy his claim.

[Tet]

Vorkuta is still lacking in pagetops and I'm considering voting there if Lucian does anything remotely townie.

[Tet]

I am not mindmelding with you on this tlk townblocking but I do think you're town tet

Would telling you to trust me on it do anything for you?

[Tet]

Interesting VOTE: FL

[Tet]

I like FL less for reigning saudade.

I think Krazy/fire/tlk is a decent town block for pre-page 10.

townie.

It's also a callback to a game where Saudade sheeped me relentlessly for up to 4 day phases.

That's why I didn't like it.

VOTE: Tet

You assuming I was being serious feels like scum trying to break that up before it begins.

If you tell me you weren't attempting to buddy saudade with a call back to the last time you buddied saudade (as town) to get him more comfortable with idea of town you then I'll conf scum you right now.

[Tet]

...damn you FL...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lucian

[Tet]

...damn you FL...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lucian

I have a hard scum read on this slot. They backed off of me once they realized I'm not going to be able to get pushed by them.

I have no problem pushing you but believe you town told.

[Tet]

Fire/tlk/Krazy/saudade/FL? Is it that easy?

[Tet]

Hmm yess Baezu can be town.

i was kinda thinking this too, so have a townpoint

pedit hey fl do u push 'political' as being a scumtell when your'e town?

The general idea or do you mean the term political itself?

[Tet]

Sure FL, if you feel confident pushing it then we can dance. I think you're town at the moment but I can always entertain the idea of scum!FL.

[Tet]

Hmm yess Baezu can be town.

i was kinda thinking this too, so have a townpoint

pedit hey fl do u push 'political' as being a scumtell when your'e town?

The general idea or do you mean the term political itself?

eh both

He's specifically made this push multiple times as town minus the word political. On the other hand I've seen him tiptoe around it as scum.

I don't have a large sample size on the scum part of it though so there's that.

[Tet]

Perfect reason to just give it a couple of days.

You even said recently that if we were in a game together, I'd be able to town read you correctly and make it so you wouldn't die pre-Day 3.

If I'm scum, you wouldn't make it there. :shrug:

This sounds an awful lot like overkill boon

How so?

B

As town you tend to want people to come at you (during the night) whereas as scum you tend to say things that make people want to avoid targeting you

Like in retrospect in overkill if you had been a real pgo you wouldn't claim to avoid town targeting you, you'd just try to bait night kills, or at least that's how I think you would have played an actual pgo differently

There's been a major shift in his play since Overkill and that's as both alignments.

[Tet]

+1 Skitter.

[Tet]

Here ill repeat it

Who are the players to watch out for

Boon and Skitter

How have you not gotten that yet?

FL has a ton of tells but Scum!Skitter scares me and I don't think I can say I'd catch her with any certainty.

ooooh now i'm wondering who u are

maybe i'll play this game ~experimentally~
that might be fun!

We have a few games together. None that you were scum in though I've read through some of your scum games.

[Tet]

FL I'm pretty sure you've already dropped your scumread of me if your block is exactly the same as the block you jumped on me for. You just won't say it in thread yet.

[Tet]

Perfect reason to just give it a couple of days.

You even said recently that if we were in a game together, I'd be able to town read you correctly and make it so you wouldn't die pre-Day 3.

If I'm scum, you wouldn't make it there. :shrug:

This sounds an awful lot like overkill boon

what alignment was he there?

Scum kind of. But Krazy was making the point that his early claim in overkill to avoid death is scum indicative when it's nai as of late.

[Tet]

FL I'm pretty sure you've already dropped your scumread of me if your block is exactly the same as the block you jumped on me for. You just won't say it in thread yet.

You are the weakest poster right now and this is a terrible post altogether

I'd argue that's certainly a weaker one.

[Tet]

FL I literally hate you.

[Tet]

I'm kidding <3 but still.

[Tet]

FL is a bad vote. I'd bet my alignment on his.

[Tet]

It's not a problem, I only have this pro to play with shiro eventually.

[Tet]

Saudade doesn't have experience with me. Literally only the normal that you took the call back from and the game Skitter is mentioning.

[Tet]

So I don't think that has any influence on him.

[Tet]

You guys could just vote scum!Lucian.

[Tet]

@Tet - Thoughts on TLK? I'm lean town reading him, but he posted in a way to set me up as a mislynch if I ever went at him.

Our townreads are pretty much the same. His early townread on Baezu for the VC comment was +town, his overall demeanor is town over scum indicative for him specifically and he hasn't forced any town or scum reads which I also find +town for tlk.

[Tet]

You guys could just vote scum!Lucian.

Why is Lucian scum?

The Mason speculation was baity, I disliked Krazy early for the same reason. Lucian has only really reacted or responded around the Mason topic though and I'd assume he knows it's antitown to speculate on it either way.

[Tet]

FL already conf towned me.

I'm always wary of FL trying to game me day 1 since I haven't outed the tell I have on him so I always feel like he goes beyond trying to emulate his town game. So I try baiting him into it.

However he slipped it unprovoked and before knowing I was in the game. Or rather who I was. So I'll ride with my townread on him.

[Tet]

Spoiler:

Lil Uzi Vert

Krazy

ofrhz

Vorkuta meeeeee

Tet

Flavor Leaf

LucianRoy
Baezu

Saudade

The Last Knight
Airick10

skitter30

enigma

Firebringer

BoomBoom
BrightEyedFish
NerfedBuJ

The rest of you- dance/impress me.
Oh and VOTE: Buj

It's gonna be a no from me dawg.

[Tet]

Krazy sounds like he can read FL eventually- I need that in my townblock

Hello! I have an Eli read on FL. Hi.

[Tet]

It's gonna be a no from me dawg.

Well that's why your name isn't struckthrough (

strikethrough'd

?)

Hello! I have an

Eli

read on FL. Hi.

Can I get that in something more understandable?
Explain like I'm 5 (Eli5) please

I have a very deep read on FL's play that was confirmed from his Morality win against us.

I would call it a god read if it wasn't meme-y considering my character.

Point is I am not wrong.

[Tet]

FL already pinged my main out accidentally and I've hard claimed it in thread.

I threw out a read that's specifically between us because I assumed he would figure it out, it's better if he correctly reads me when I correctly read him.

[Tet]

Also, if Tet is RCEnigma, he's conf town.

If they're anyone else, it's lean scum-null scum.

Skitter seems caught in the headlights.

He had an aha moment here. So I know he's gone back to reassess what I said. +Town.

[Tet]

It was, I'm sure he wasn't committed to it or didn't want to out it if it was true. It probably would have become clear without me confirming it but this speeds things up.

It's better for town if FL can just agree on me being town and move on to hunting actual scum.

[Tet]

Wow that was a string of terrible posts. Not as in bad but, ya know just a lot of bad content besides the counterwagon point. It's interesting.

[Tet]

So my initial issue with FL was how he came in at a moment that I felt town was solidifying and scum probably had to act on it soon. Queue FL hopping into a scumread on me and there's the catalyst, his towncircle matching up doesn't really reinforce that idea though and I'm fairly confident in each of my townreads with the exception of saudade.
Just because it's saudade.

Lucian hasn't really tried to disrupt but I scumread them independent of that. But I'm seeing the beginnings of that disruption from Bujaber in a way that's reminiscent of our last normal together.

I can't really compare the two since they were two different gamestates but the tactics employed in both are at least similar.

Good segue into putting enigma on the edge of my towncircle. Sure it's just an rvs vote but if it was based on the normal buj and lycan's team steamrolled then it's likely a town vote.

[Tet]

I don't necessarily disagree with your reads though Skitter and Lucian are the only ones you addressed specifically. I have issue with the way that you inserted yourself into the game largely by sowing doubt with no real stances either way.

[Tet]

You already know in your heart.

Him and skitter anyway, although I'm looking forward to BEF's day 1 daycop miller traitor fruit vendor claim.

only a few pages for this to come up again...

I just want to be friends with everyone and correctly SR the right people just through RVS posts alone.

Wow ok, I feel personally attacked right now.

[Tet]

Just because FL believes you are town, doesn't mean you are. And can you tell me how it is pro-town that you two share an inside read together. You are expecting the rest of the town to just go along with it?

Townreading town is protown take it at face value or don't but when one of us flips the other is confirmed. Probably best to leave it there.

[Tet]

Pay attention to 0 of FL's self meta. If for nothing else than the fact that he's aware these are things he's read for, which makes them bad things to read him for. It's convulted but he isn't a hard read.

[Tet]

Buj if you have a case for why Lucian being your counterwagon is significant I'd like to hear it from your perspective.

[Tet]

What am I gonna do with all these town reads?

[Tet]

Is sc2mafia another forum site? Does anyone know?

[Tet]

Krazy I'm curious why you're basing your game around ofhrz and what the other slots think of them without really committing to your own read.

[Tet]

Why's that Skitter?

[Tet]

I don't think any of the three are particularly townie. Bef would lead the pack as far as town, I'm indifferent on boom but Im attempting to sort him. I asked about sc2mafia because I don't feel like he is a complete newbie despite this being his first onsite game. With that in mind I'm finding it hard to believe someone familiar with mafia, especially in a forum setting, plays this way. That doesn't really help to figure out his alignment just yet but it's a step. Airick is the scummiest of the 3 but I'm not throwing my weight behind that read yet.

I like ofhrz' reads so far

[Tet]

Right now I have a lot of townreads, more than I should I feel like. That and a weak scumread on Lucian, but I feel like I would regret letting it go down the line if I flipped right now.

[Tet]

I found it diving through boom's topic. Specifically his role suggestions, which implies he has an understanding of the game and the mechanics behind it.

[Tet]

I thought we had something real...

[Tet]

Don't make me spontaneously combust.

[Tet]

I wanna call boom a jester but it's a normal game ...

[Tet]

I'm with you but I'm waiting for day 2 FL to show up and realize Vorkuta is scum so we don't end up block tumbling.

[Tet]

Baezu isn't the worst Lynch but I feel like A.) Lucian is better and B.) Baezu feels naturally scummy as either alignment.

I'll vote there if Lucian doesn't gain traction to close scums mislynch paths however.

[Tet]

Generally scum don’t hard sheep me, and FB followed me on 2 wagons.

Saudade did that to me before, and he was town, so

??
You were confirmed town much like skitter is
Different case

This, he also made it to lylo and if you were anything but IC we probably would have lost that game.

[Tet]

Well there isn't a chance I go for a Krazy lynch today so I can get behind the Baezu wagon and tomorrow we can handle scum vork.



Creature also hasn't posted all game, scum for sure.

[Tet]

I acknowledge that FL is shielding Vorkuta today so in order to push that Lynch I would have to challenge FL on his read. In turn he starts to doubt his read on me. Which is fine but distracts from the fact Vorkuta is prob scum. If I wait a day he will come to this conclusion on his own and I won't have to violate the sanctity of the town block.

[Tet]

Lucian, why were you sent to the detention room?

I laughed too loud during a standardized test.

At this point, I tried asking for a refresher from Tet, but I was brushed.
I responded to Nick's case on me, and feel like that should clear up any confusion.
Buj's vote on me looks like it's for me simply saying some logic he had on a post way back when was a stretch, (might I add that original post was actually in defense of Buj from skitter's push on Buj even before his whole AtE thing with skitter). 735
And Krazy/Ank is a rep, so Idk.

Your early game felt awkward around saudade particularly. Your semi-analysis is ok fwiw but everything you contribute feels safe in a way that seems like you aren't trying to rub anyone in the town the wrong way. I didn't like that you avoided pushing back against me all together, even when I ignored rehashing my suspicions on you. It all felt weird.

I also find it odd that you would read your counterwagon town when the counterwagon to your counterwagon is revealed IC. Which your counterwagon was a part of. Unless you think scum was simultaneously pushing 3 separate wagons through which would be something like me + FL + whoever led on buj that isn't Skitter.

[Tet]

VOTE: Baezu

Suddenly very comfortable with this vote.

[Tet]

VOTE: Baezu

Suddenly very comfortable with this vote.

I really want to lynch in lucian/vorkuta/FL/creature right now and it's distracting me from other slots. Why baezu? This post makes it sound like you found something really meaningful.

I'd go for anyone but FL in that list, but I think creature is the only one that goes through barring someone being pushed to a decent claim and then a flash wagon on one of them. Which, is frustrating but not the end of the world. It's just day 1.

I didn't really find anything meaningful on Baezu I just think she's abandoned this game which is probably more scum indicative than town indicative. I'd expect her to prioritize games she's town in and would therefore have more fun playing over her scum rolls. Idk if I can say that. If it breaks a rule I don't mind having this post deleted.

[Tet]

I am referring to this set of posts.

TLK is town which is excellent. Krazy can be on my good side for now since I still need his vote and more if possible.

Sounds right, very astute.

A rebel among boys.

Sounds like a paradox but I won't fight it.

Well you're winning me over so I'll be rooting for them.

Betting on the other guys but I'm with you in spirit.

? I dont really see this as being much awkward at all

I did not like the way he phrased 61 followed by him transitioning into a set of shitposts with Firebringer.

It looks far less natural than everything else that was posted around that time from every slot that isn't on that list.

Less natural in what way? I still wanted to get a wagon going on Lucian and firebringer interacted with me in real time. It's not really ai, I approach most rvs this way.

[Tet]

If ank flips town I'll scumread Tet.
Tet does feel off compared to the two games I've played with RCE.

I just can't trust Ank while she's alive.

Also if anyone is in love with ank I'd like to know now so I don't scumread you incorrectly if you agree too much with her.

I don't get why ank scumreading me makes me scum, that's sus.

The two games you played with me were ok2 where I was 3p and the tilted normal that I just couldn't get around Nero's massive... Brainpower.

On the other side of the coin I've only played with scum!buj and townread you early both times. You might just be town here for it. That's not a solid read btw.

[Tet]

Like, I think really poorly of Anks rep in but wouldn't vote there on the strength that I believed Krazy to be town.

[Tet]

Do you have examples of you approaching the game in this way as either alignment?

Any game I've played in that isn't in the newbie queue. I shitpost or semi shitpost until I get scumread for it. Then I get serious I guess. Depends how I feel about the interactions I got.

[Tet]

If ank flips town I'll scumread Tet.
Tet does feel off compared to the two games I've played with RCE.

I just can't trust Ank while she's alive.

Also if anyone is in love with ank I'd like to know now so I don't scumread you incorrectly if you agree too much with her.

I don't get why ank scumreading me makes me scum, that's sus.

The two games you played with me were ok2 where I was 3p and the tilted normal that I just couldn't get around Nero's massive... Brainpower.

On the other side of the coin I've only played with scum!buj and townread you early both times. You might just be town here for it. That's not a solid read btw.

Nothing except that when she pointed it out I realized I kinda agree that you're a bit different from what I've experienced.

But honestly I forgot you were 3p in ok2 so it's probably not AI.

And maybe I was subconsciously exaggerating how much in sync I felt we were in those games because ultimately I was if not pocketing you at least trying to get you not to scumread me.

You and Varsoon pushed me a majority of Ok2. I get they play from the normal but I set myself up for it arguing all game with town.

[Tet]

Creature also hasn't posted all game, scum for sure.

Shut up because atleast the only thing on me was me not posting, while on you...

It was a joke, case me.

[Tet]

I thought tlk was town, didn't think Krazy was but I was campaigning for more votes on Lucian.

[Tet]

I am... Really bad at this.

[Tet]

In the early pages, I can remember Tet, Flavor Leaf, and Firebringer buddying up on Lucian or was it Skitter?

Uhh... Literally no part of this statement is accurate at all.

[Tet]

I pushed the Lucian wagon, FL pushed the Skitter wagon and Skitter admitted to purposely muddying her game to illicit reactions. It wasn't a conventional FL push and more based on his charisma trying to push it through over logic but that's about it. Which is still in line with his general play.

Unless you misspoke, none of the three slots attempted to buddy Lucian or Skitter.

If we did then find the quotes, I'll wait.

[Tet]

No, it's not accurate in the slightest.

[Tet]

Woah, saudade has a lot of content.

[Tet]

I'm curious why people are townreading Saudade. Disclaimer: first person to say 'mason' gets a death tunnel.

[Tet]

The resistance to Ankamius lynch is grand and I dont compremendo why

Because Krazy... other than Krazy townspewing the slot, it's probscum. I don't know if it's the omgus speaking or j really feel this.

[Tet]

Also, it's not just Ank, Baezu's wagon has had a fair bit of kickback and I don't think Skitters apprehension to lynching lurkers is the only factor.

[Tet]

Saudade if you don't channel your inner Albert to get boom lynched I'll do it for Baezu, I take responsibility for her flip.

[Tet]

But I want her flipped today.

[Tet]

He locked me as town. That’s just poor scum play

Hmm, we both know I would buddy you as scum though.

[Tet]

Why did I stop voting Lucian?

[Tet]

He locked me as town. That’s just poor scum play

Hmm, we both know I would buddy you as scum though.

Would you, though? Could you handle buddying me only to have me late game flip flop all over the place?

You would wether I buddy you or not. So I don't see why not.

[Tet]

Wow, can't believe people bit already. But they're my townreads well not necessarily Anka but Krazy. I've been defending you based on your predecessor so I'm not sure how I'm setting you up for today's lynch.

Saudade is also a townread but I wanted to see how genuine the townreads on him were or if he was just being spewed town because the sheep didn't want to clash with the few slots that initially townbinned him.

[Tet]

I got that bill and I stand by it. Ank is scummy, Krazy wasn't. Yet I'll defend Ank day 1 on that premise even if her scumread on me is faulty.

[Tet]

I don't know if it's a perception bias but like I'm getting annoyed at how much more of an impact creature seems to have in games I'm scum in versus those I'm town in.

Or is that the new scumtell for him?

It would probably be the bias. He's just an easy slot to townbin which is frustrating for scum.

[Tet]

I'll leave A50 at L-2 for him to claim at his convenience but also

intent to hammer

Sidenote - the callbacks are really doing it for me now. I think the A50 - FL correlation is semi accurate. Meaning for the most part if I can see FL doing something I could also see A50 doing so as well and I think A50's check in is a scum!FL opening.

[Tet]

I'm also hard pocketed by choice.

[Tet]

Also ofrhz and A50 are never scum together.

[Tet]

I would rather have a Tet mislynch than an a50 mislynch.

Run this by me again. A what?

[Tet]

My too scummy to be scum read on boom is running thin. But does scum let him continue pushing me poorly like this? Idk.

[Tet]

Hmm strike that post out. I'm just not going to worry about booms slot.

[Tet]

I'm either posting or I'm not which translates directly to I'm either town or I'm not, respectively.

[Tet]

This slot lol

[Tet]

Boom can only be town. I swear by it.

[Tet]

Is this the first time a scum joked that they are scum? Anybody?

No, FlavorLeaf has done it. A50 watched him do it lol.

[Tet]

Tet and ofrhz may I ask why you both didn't post anything for like 5 minutes when I said you are a scum team

My mom made me wash the dishes.

[Tet]

Keep reading, I've landed on boom being town.

[Tet]

I can see a world where Boom is putting on a show but his tunnel on me is a terrible line for scum to take considering the obstacles they have to overcome to get me lynched. Then he takes it a step further and pairs me with ofhrz but votes Vorkuta which is still blowing my mind. But pairing me with ofhrz puts 1 more person against any Lynch he's trying to push. It makes no sense.

[Tet]

I don't think he's scum which is kind of a prerequisite.

[Tet]

General rule of thumb if Creature has more posts than me and >100% are fluff hes probtown.

[Tet]

A Baezu flip spews A50's alignment. So I'm super good with that.

[Tet]

I'd feel bad if she were playing, giving reads, etc and she flipped town. But that's not the case.

[Tet]

That's a fishy wagon. Don't let it distract you from the fact it dismantled both the A50 and Luv wagons pretty much simultaneously.

[Tet]

Tet why are you voting for baezu again?

Would you vote for elsa? If i switched back to a50 would you join me?

I'm voting Baezu for the lack of care in this game and the longer the slot is in the game the more dangerous it is for the town, even if she herself is not a threat to town. If that makes sense.

I would vote Elsa or A50 tbh. I posted my intent but wanted A50 to at least get a hold in the game.

What really sucks is that my townreads are repping out and being replaced with scummy players. But I will admit I naturally read Elsa as scummy. That being said I've used the tell referenced and only as scum so.

[Tet]

I like the notion of lynching vork but i dont like the wagon on him. Otherwise i mostly agree with it.

I think Vork is a bad Lynch today but that hinges on FL in the future. I won't go further than that today.

[Tet]

If I'm a scumread then no, probably not.

[Tet]

Just out of curiosity, what prompted that read?

[Tet]

[Tet]

Before this gets out of hand.

[Tet]

Oh right, Tet = RCEnigma

still don't know if I can sort him rn

Wait... Tet is RCE? Holy crapioli.

Pedit: oh,

Hot take, Elsa isn't groupscum.

[Tet]

*slaps Baezu wagon*

Let's lynch scum or something.

[Tet]

Tet why are you voting for baezu again?

Would you vote for elsa? If i switched back to a50 would you join me?

I'm voting Baezu for the lack of care in this game and the longer the slot is in the game the more dangerous it is for the town, even if she herself is not a threat to town. If that makes sense.

I would vote Elsa or A50 tbh. I posted my intent but wanted A50 to at least get a hold in the game.

What really sucks is that my townreads are repping out and being replaced with scummy players. But I will admit I naturally read Elsa as scummy. That being said I've used the tell referenced and only as scum so.

can you vote elsa then?

I think if Elsa were groupscum with like...FL then my main would have been mentioned in the PT. That's probably really weak but like A50 came in and had that knowledge on hand.

[Tet]

This is my first game on the account.

[Tet]

FL just kind of snuffed me out quickly.

[Tet]

Hmm, fair actually. I'm bad at being an alt admittedly. It could fit.

[Tet]

Who are you talking about exactly

A50 never lynches elsa day 1.

FL apparently never lynches RCE day 1 (but I don't know FL well maybe it's just this game, that's what I understood).

Elsa never lynches A50 day 1.

Nobody lynches creature day 1 if creature posts more than once is like the standard.

Accurate, that goes both ways. I don't think I can Lynch FL day 1 regardless so it's not really in my own interest to push there as either alignment and FL hasn't successfully pushed me as a day 1 Lynch yet.

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Wait what? Who's townreading A50?

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So FL and you by extension?

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VOTE: A50 your move then.

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Hmm I think something happened but my scrambled brain can't piece it together. UNVOTE:

Uhhhh.... VOTE: vork I guess.

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If this Lynch goes through then what I thought was happening isn't happening.

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And if what I think is happening happens then you won't be lynched so.

Overall it's net gain for town even if FL disagrees.

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Not really that easy Nerf. It's because of how long the wagon's been on him and with him being on l-2 for awhile. His only way out is relying on the IC to Powerlynch me or something. He posted recently and saw the 24 hour deadline but insists on staying quiet instead because he knows his claim isn't getting him out of it.

Basically he's using Skitter to get out of dying ATM.

wow this is really bad

Basically what happened to the A50 wagon till Skitter said she didn't like the wagon comp and slots scattered like roaches. Then we got this shiny Vork wagon. Vork I think you could be town, but why should I be sure you're town?

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UNVOTE: just to be safe, Baezu's been wildcatting.

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Not in love with either of these wagons VOTE: Elsa

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Baezu, A50, Enigma, lucian. Somewhere in there.

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So a lot went on that I wasn't around for but I was almost spot on with Vork....but I thought you were masons with FL to be honest.

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And if what I think is happening happens then you won't be lynched so.

Overall it's net gain for town even if FL disagrees.

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If Elsa shot Baezu I would have lynched them.

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Zzzzz saudade.

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Guh did tet want me to claim?
It was really forced and I'm slightly butthurt but meh.
Anyway- can I stop thinking/being responsible and just sheep papa leaf? /s

It would be great to hear from Baezu- the hero (hammered w/ like 2 minutes to go) and supposed vig target FIRST before from elsa IMHO but... meh

Yeah I kinda did. Didn't think the wagon falls away any other way and A50 was a better wagon. And what do ya know.

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Umm well my line of thinking was that FL was hard shielding you as Mason and saudade was just informed masons were in the game.

So no, just right for the wrong reasons on one of the right people.

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Lol vork I really do love you.

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Who's townreading A50?

All 5 of the wagons right now are on town.

UNVOTE: A50

Let me think about this..

You also literally ruin every single reaction test of mine.

Keeps you honest. I like it.

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Vork/enigma/Baezu/SS/FL/The handsomest Tet all town.

Saudade prob town

Creature town till he's not

Then there's the rest of you.

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FL do you believe Vork would fakeclaim mason as scum day 1?

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FL do you believe Vork would fakeclaim mason as scum day 1?

He pushed me as scum who killed my own partner as scum.

That’s child’s play compared to that.

He’s probably just town, and I have salt towards him, though.

That's different, Vedith brought that up and I gave scum leeway to push it.

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Wait, who’s your mason?

I must have missed all that, lol

I just replaced into this 100-page game yesterday and I know the answer to this

That's some smart cookie.

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Yeah no I'm not mason. I just thought masons were in play outside of saudades trolling.

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Vig.

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Hydra-ing with Morality.

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Elsa didn't specify any modifiers.

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Elsa did you shoot Skitter?

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Wow nobody missed me. That's messed up.

VOTE: Elsa

Shower me in bigdicktowncred. L-1
I'm surprised FL is so adamantly against dealing with Elsa when it benefits town regardless of the flip. If Elsa flips vig then scum have a RB and would have blocked Elsa again anyways, town isn't losing anything nor does it gain anything leaving Elsa alive.

Gonna need you guys to wake up.

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SS for pres.

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*Vader voice* Join the dark side...

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Ahh see now you missed a perfectly good hammer.

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Ngl part of me wanted to see if FL would do it after hard defending Elsa like that.

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Take it.

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Well I mean... Elsa being scummy plus no shot made people want it. But you can have it.

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It should have pudding.

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It is I, DIO.

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Yeah so as a one off it seemed really townsided but I think that's mostly the playerlist and scum rands.

Don't believe scum gets stomped like this twice in a row. Things also play out different if the IC doesn't confirm day 1 and masons don't get run up the same day.

Rolecop hit VT night 1 because of FL as a player not really misreading prs. It was just a series of unfortunate events.

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I don't think the setup by itself is extremely townsided, it just has a lot of conditions to make the game very demoralizing for scum

there's a very high bar scum have to hit in order to have a pretty good shot with this setup and town require much less in order for it to be incredibly strong

I'd agree with this.

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Youre the mason, hes the guy you put up with.

you have the power here. Dont give it to him.