Large Normal 220: Jazz Mafia [Game Over!]

[Elsa Jay]

Hey friends and enemies of all ages! I don't know what going on at all and I only saw the playerlist, but is the Fish with Bright Eyes on the table or nah?

[Elsa Jay]

Sounds like a fun time, but relatively useless since I don't know who this is.

Okay then: Damage report time. Did Fire say anything Stupid, claim something, or br generally scummy?

[Elsa Jay]

Then to be the opposite, I'll scumread you and null read everyone elsa until I read up. Posting any highlights would be nice though.

What's the skitter thing in the first page about? Did she get revealed immediately or something?

[Elsa Jay]

Sounds about right. I saw you also had Krazy and Ank in your slot? What lead to those 2 leaving, if they mentioned it?

[Elsa Jay]

Oh we're currently murdering Almost. Didn't expect that.

[Elsa Jay]

Now I see what Bambi Jay was talking about

What did she say

now

? Ugh.

Also, Almost sensei, I would

never

question your infinite Wisdom and experience, but... Uh...

Why are you voting an IC?

[Elsa Jay]

Speaking of Precessors:

UNVOTE:

Firebringer is now disowned. I will ISO and take what is rightfully mine now.

[Elsa Jay]

Holey Moley that was a bad ISO. How you guys didn't lynch Fire I'll never know. Well of course I know it's a bad lynch in hindsight because I got his rolecard now but still.

Let me look at the one thing of value I could salvage.

the ultimate pro read list that you can't deny it brings all the boys to the yard:

Town
Leaf, Tet,
Nerfed, Krazy, Lucian
A bunch of people
Beazu, TheLastKnight

Scum

people who need to be interrogated by me in my ballerina outfit:
LUV, BrightEyedFish, Saudade.

He even said a Mason claim was Scum? What the fuck. Why didn't you guys lynch this? Scum probably guided away from him/me to have him be a mislynch later.

Any other claims out there that I gotta worry about? I saw in his ISO about Saudade claiming Mason but has a partner claimed or nah?

[Elsa Jay]

Okay. I also saw in Fire's ISO about a vigi?

[Elsa Jay]

*raises eyebrows in visable confusion*

Explain?

[Elsa Jay]

Oh.

... Why wasnt he lynched again?

[Elsa Jay]

You were very easy to convince. You also have the IC voting you. A miscalculation on your part.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[Elsa Jay]

It wasn't a scum claim, it was very simple questioning on,why the heck Fire didn't get lynched for his behavior. Who here defended him? You? You turned on me quickly when I mentioned Scum could have kept him alive for a mislynch.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean if you looked at the VCs (which I thought you did) you'd see that papa dinosaur never got a single vote on him so there wasn't "defense" so much as "there were other people to push".

But you bring up an excellent point- he's been fluff posting and riding it out on memes alone, and now's a good time as any to examine your slot.

1: Didn't think to read VCs on their own without context.

2: Its weirder all of the "town" ignored it. I say we gotta find a coral leader. Someone leading the votes is probably scum. Or this town had so many mislynchable players Fire went unnoticed.

[Elsa Jay]

It seemed like a good opening. An 8/10.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I'm still made at him from our last encounter. Boon's large Theme Game Show one? Not to mention that time he claimed Daycop in a Normal Mini.

I hold a grudge. Sue me.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I'm not the best, so....

[Elsa Jay]

Last time I did that was a year-ish ago in a semi-open with Creature's slot. What I did there though was make everyone ignore his meta. I purposely brought attention to Fire, because it seemed suspicious that someone who voted a Mason claim didn't get more heat until I bring it up.

[Elsa Jay]

Well the entrance is my personality and I dont know anything about tue Amish besides that they don't use tecunology.

[Elsa Jay]

An IC has infinite town points though Vork

[Elsa Jay]

But she's focused on my comments only. Not even your comments on me. Now your just trying to take credit from her.

[Elsa Jay]

Demanding things is scummy. Your taking her case because you couldn't bother to make one for yourself.

[Elsa Jay]

Skitter came from an angle about whatever the amished is. You voted me because I pointed out scummy things you ignored until then. Then you try and take credit because the IC "agreed" with you.

[Elsa Jay]

Because it's true and I want to know who was so scummy that people would ignore Fire for so long. @Skitter for that part.

Well doing things jokingly means your not commiting now to what you said, so therefore you just wanted to see if you could grab (demand) credit. You had no case, only a vote and complaining. @Vork

And hi Ofr!

[Elsa Jay]

Can you describe Lucien for me? Perhaps if I ignore Vork for a bit I can read up on someone elsa and help with a case.

[Elsa Jay]

When can we expect more reads Elsa?

Yeah I'll get back to that now. Will try and comment before I go to bed.

[Elsa Jay]

Wait... Oh. THAT Saudade. I remember him now. Slightly. Was a no-nonsense guy in a game with Cheeky, me, Almost, NotMaf and one other poor soul.

Nice to see you again. I recognized the avatar.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh right, Tet = RCEnigma

still don't know if I can sort him rn

Wait... Tet is RCE? Holy crapioli.

Pedit: oh,

[Elsa Jay]

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Actually I believe Elsa will be willing to give everyone here a lesson learned story on how a gambit that involves scum claiming is bad. Unless he's too arrogant to learn from jungle republic.

Well screw you too on that, I just wanted to lynch the 4 headed Hydra gone and I didn't want the Seer to check me. The fact the 4 headed hydra wad not only the seer but also checked a Mafia claim is on them.

[Elsa Jay]

Depends on the mood me and Bambi are in during a certain game, yeah.

[Elsa Jay]

I wasn't Mafia, but they did win eventually. The Duck quick voted me after you went missing for 3 weeks.

[Elsa Jay]

She's been saying it for the past 3 pages, so she probably really wants to lynch me yeah.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I'd rather not be Lynched and you townread Vork, so.... We're running out of options with a day and a half left.

[Elsa Jay]

Still Vork. Nobody elsa is pinging me yet but I'm still only halfway through reading what happened before I got here. Page 40 ATM. We only got a day and a half: Minus sleeping tonight and working tommorow morning, I may barely finally read everything by the deadline.

[Elsa Jay]

Almost has a soft spot for me and I kinda have the same so mainly getting to know him again after awhile. Vork went aggro for what my predesscor did because I brought it up. I brought it up mainly as a conversation starter to see who'd jump on me and to see if anyone had scumread Fire before I came in. Appearantly not, and I made myself suspicious as a result. Didn't expect the IC to start leading my lynch afterwards.

I also lose focus of the game when people try and murder me, but frankly of those consistently posting are never lower then a Null read besides Vork.

[Elsa Jay]

I don't know the specifics of Vorks wagon but clearly something happened that resonated with everyone who got on it after me. I don't think the entire scum team jumps headfirst on such a weird counterwagon? Maybe 1, but I couldn't tell you which.

The saying goes: "If your gonna No Lynch Day 1, it might as well be a Policy Lynch instead so any investigatives or vigilantes don't have to waste any shots".

[Elsa Jay]

That last part was when I was TLK's post. Also: Glad You came back to Forum Mafia my man. Nice to have you.

[Elsa Jay]

I had to read page 1 through 80 in 2 and a half days and am still on page 65. You'll do fine.

[Elsa Jay]

Do you townread me elsa jay

Why does this feel like a trick question? Cautiously yes.

vork is a terrible lynch today

Well he has 6 votes with 25 hours left compared to the other wagons being separated into groups of 3 2 and 1. Times ticking down.

[Elsa Jay]

That makes me laugh that the IC got outted day 1 for being scummy, huh?

[Elsa Jay]

Or perhaps we can accept that Vork is a valuable Intel lynch and call it a day already?

[Elsa Jay]

If he was a PR he'd have claimed by now to help lead the charge on me instead or something, but since he hasnt claimed anything despite me basically continuously bringing up the deadline shows he isn't a Town PR.

If he was a town PR he wouldnt wait so close to the deadline to pull out that information for a swing lynch.

I'm lynching him since I already deduced he's not a PR anyway and he's better off dead then revealing me or anyone elsa.

[Elsa Jay]

I think you also do better day 1 lynching a VT claim vs a potential PR, so...

[Elsa Jay]

Not really that easy Nerf. It's because of how long the wagon's been on him and with him being on l-2 for awhile. His only way out is relying on the IC to Powerlynch me or something. He posted recently and saw the 24 hour deadline but insists on staying quiet instead because he knows his claim isn't getting him out of it.

Basically he's using Skitter to get out of dying ATM.

[Elsa Jay]

Not really that easy Nerf. It's because of how long the wagon's been on him and with him being on l-2 for awhile. His only way out is relying on the IC to Powerlynch me or something. He posted recently and saw the 24 hour deadline but insists on staying quiet instead because he knows his claim isn't getting him out of it.

Basically he's using Skitter to get out of dying ATM.

Okay hypothetically,

What does VT!vork claim here?

Don't really think he'd claim anything but VT regardless, but he hasn't even done that because he wanted to keep his options open for further days instead of hardclaiming. I hate hard claiming day 1 as scum too, especially if it's a VT claim.

@Beazu: voting someone with 0 votes at this moment isn't gonna work at all. If you agree with me on Scum!Vork it's probably best to put him at L-1 so we can actually get Skitter to see things better.

Do I seem more likely to flip scum or Vork? We can't really dilly dally anymore. I'll take the heat if he ACTUALLY flips Town.

[Elsa Jay]

Og everything I said, that's what got your attention? Weird.

[Elsa Jay]

I specified your specific circumstances and included the fact you also have the IC on your side to avoid claiming at all. A 24 hour deadline and having so many people still on you changes how L-2 and L-3 work. If your that far ahead in votes near deadline you claim. Period. Claiming with like 12 hours before deadline as PR seems like desperate scum.

Pedit: Well yeah, and I was fine with a policy lynch if the wagon on you disappated and the one on me gain traction Vork. But it didnt, and your the better lynch now.

[Elsa Jay]

Also just realized it takes 9 to lynch. I've been going on thinking it was 8 needed. Dang.

That makes it even harder to form a counterwagon in any reasonable time at all.

[Elsa Jay]

Ofr wwwwhhhhyyyyyy

[Elsa Jay]

Still not a good idea to vote me. Your making it worse Skitter.

[Elsa Jay]

Its already pretty consolidated on Vork tho. Just 2 more votes.

[Elsa Jay]

Fire softed Vigi and I'm Vigi. Vote Vork quick.

[Elsa Jay]

Getting it now.

[Elsa Jay]

also flavor i want to fite u on ur bad tet read. So u better wise up before i get out the big guns.

Big Guns, ready to shoot.

I don't talk to no police.

What Vigilante does?

ur slot claimed to be vigi. please confirm.

The most retroactive hard-soft I've ever seen.

Okay. I also saw in Fire's ISO about a vigi?

Me wondering if Fire really did out himself so fast but learning he thankfully didnt.

Frankly his attitude came from a guy who could prove himself, and I was gonna claim day 2 anyway. I was using his scumminess the same way it seemed Skitter did. Unfortantely now everyone had the excuse of following the IC instead.

Also: This is why you lynched Vork. I didn't want this shit outted so fast.

If we don't lynch him I gotta waste my shot on him. If we do lynch him someone that hopped on my wagon is getting shot that isn't Named Saudade and Skitter. Or if she gets back on, Skitter can recommend someone.

[Elsa Jay]

I think that is actually a hammer Lucien. He was at L-3 to begin with and then you Skitter and Saudade voted.

[Elsa Jay]

Any softs then?

[Elsa Jay]

... Wow. Just... Wow. We literally just wagoned the equivalent of 5 PRs today. An IC, a Vigi, and 3 Masons? FFS.

[Elsa Jay]

... Wait a sec. What Mason votes their partner Saudade?

[Elsa Jay]

Moron moment there frankly. Seems weird to have both an IC and Masons to be in the same game.

[Elsa Jay]

... Wait a sec. What Mason votes their partner Saudade?

??? What town motivation do you have to say this

Scum would notice anyway if I did. And it would give me more reason to shoot you if you weren't a townread to begin with. I'll stick with Beazu.

UNVOTE:

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Tet

Won't vote A50 day 1, as it's been pointed out.

And Anti-Town and Me are known best friends. There's a reason my Title got accepted as Chaos and Confusion.

[Elsa Jay]

It's a very strong preference, not a rule. And you listed other options anyway. I'm voting one of those.

[Elsa Jay]

I'm not voting a Panic mislynch either. Have fun folks. I gotta get ready for work on the off chance the Rainstorm stops.

[Elsa Jay]

the worst has been prodded

Umm? Wrong game?

[Elsa Jay]

Prodding the backup Mod? What extensive power.

[Elsa Jay]

Whoever hammers Almost gets shot instead of Beazu. Just sayin.

[Elsa Jay]

A hammer is an invitation for me to shoot them instead of Beazu. Swinging my big Vigi stick around for the one benefit it has.

When Almost flips town and they panic hammered instead of reasonable let a no lynch happen they deserve the shot through the brain.

[Elsa Jay]

Well I say they do and I'm the one holding the gun, so...

Hammer = shot.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah. I guess I am.

[Elsa Jay]

And I want Almost alive to help me gamesolve on day 2. So my threat still stands.

Pedit: I will shoot the person who puts them at L-1 then Ofr.

[Elsa Jay]

Well that won't be a problem is Almost isn't hammered then, huh?

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa won't be shooting anyone tonight.

What does this even mean fishie?

[Elsa Jay]

A50 if you are here self voting is playing for your wincon if you are town

Well if he does that then I guess I default back to Beazu.

1 hour till vahalla, folks. Then the 17 of us can sleep peacefully during the night.

[Elsa Jay]

If you dont Beazu I can shoot whoever you desire, as long as you post it before the thread lock.

[Elsa Jay]

Why is Elsa avoiding the thread?

Cuz he town.

Why would scum Elsa avoid thread when I’m here hard defending.

It don make no snens

Shutting up is the correct play, yes, so I'm doing that.

@Flavor: Frankly I did attempt to shoot someone, but because Beazu hammered Almost with 3 minutes left, I couldn't in good conscious shoot him thinking he was scum. My attempt to shoot the fake Mason failed too.

[Elsa Jay]

Odd night only is the modifier.

[Elsa Jay]

... Wait a sec. What Mason votes their partner Saudade?

Still applies, you know.

VOTE: Saudade

[Elsa Jay]

They couldn't avoid the thread when you specifically called them out for being online though.

[Elsa Jay]

I was sad when Beazu came out with literally only like minutes left and hammered Almost. I was gonna suicide anyway but I wanted to make that slot atleast questioned. That and I misread Fire's ISO and assumed everyone would scumread him anyway. I'm still doing that regardless of alignment though cuz it's funny and it kills another tell from being used.

A game that starts with 3 IC's and what's basically a Masonizor? Yeah if i knew that was the Set up I would've avoided it like the plague.