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[RCEnigma]

Ergo if scum are pretty hunting they are not doing so with my slot in mind, naturally.

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Ergo if scum are pr hunting they are not doing so with my slot in mind, naturally.

Ebwop

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Nero we're done speaking until this game is over.

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Can confirm, yes.

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How do you feel about Profii, pancakes?

While checking out the thread I've seen him being inactive, in both of the wagons he was at the middle which is my scum hunting spot for new - average players so I'll just put this as a scum lean + that post I just quoted which is extraaaaa shady and puts profii as Sashadin's scum buddy. I'll have to check out his ISO though, but for now, scum-lean.

You could just vote Profii if that's the case.

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If the flippy wagon has the same slots on it that the jibril wagon did and jibril flipped town do I think scum are on both? Yes and I will say as such. Why is it weird that slots I think are scum voted both wagons and I give reasoning for why I'm thinking it in the first place? It just makes sense that there would be a greater number of scum on those wagons than off those wagons considering the kill was off wagon.

RCE please help me by pointing out which part I am not explaining well because I have repeated this point several times and you keep repeating your VCA.

I have no problem with the VCA itself. I take issue with you saying it in thread before the flippy wagon has gone through. It was premature. It gives scum an out. It takes away any value town would have gained from the VCA in the first place.

I'll reread the stuff with overkill but I'm pretty sure we said the same thing to overkill because I remember he himself lumped us both together.

I don't know which part, I'm just not seeing it because the EoD wagons were pretty much identical anyways. So, why would they not vote if I'm suspicious of them when I'm highly suspicious in the first place?

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Pretty solid that Sashadin is town? Are you serious?

P-Edit: I'm not sure on Profii, why do you want my vote redirected? I said I'll have to check their ISO, I'm good with my vote as it is. Don't base your reads off guts boys and girls.

I'm fine with you rereading, I'm the other way. I agree they could be together but am less sure on Sasha being scum than I am on Profii.

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Hard pushing a wagon where atleast 1 town (me) got off kinda goes against that, no? Jibril was a really EZ wagon and your belief that scum would push the Eyes lynch b/c they had the #'s (not true anyways) is baffling. But then you are scum so...

I have a theory that may or may not be true. I was kinda being too out there even with all my confusion that scum probably guessed I was not a PR. jibril was being too silent it could have been PR play 9trying to not get noticed), so they pushed it more.

I also find it silly to SR me because I have more chance of defending myself and/or outing scum on wagons. First, my wagon analysis happened after the fact. Second, me being able to defend myself and out scum gives my reads a little bit more credibility after my flip (not that I would advise anyone to sheep my reads after my death). It all doesn't make sense to me that you SR me because I was pushed hard, had a wagon forming too quick and dissolving not as quick, because I can defend myself and out scum on wagons (whatever that means).

This was about your voters, not your alignment.

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Yeah whatever will piss people off more VOTE: Sasha

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To be fair. I don't care who gets Lynch anymore.

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To be fair. I don't care who gets Lynch anymore.

you just continue to be the most pro-town thing I've ever seen

It's a gift and a curse.

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I can get Enigma's vote, he was suspicious of me earlier. But I thought both RCS and Lycan were townreading me, and with the weird reason/no reason combo....
I'd lynch RCE before Enigma before Lycan, but I'll follow you for a while.

I feel like you're playing follow the clear, which I would expect of scum you. I juxtapose this assumption with the first game I played with you as opposite alignments where the reason we tried to push you as a mislynch was your independent reads that were clashing with the rest of town.

The lack of inquiring into motivations instead of pointing the finger from some of you guys is scary. You can't all be scum...

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Interesting point but not super important. The fact that Nero is the only person tying me to Profii after I was the counterwagon to both creature and Flippy whom flipped town is, off fmpov I guess. It might be because creature was the one that objected to my lynch, Profii did as well though and Nero is the only one calling that a team. I would cross examine the three wagons but that's probably scummy.

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but no one is clear, so how is he doing that?

Creature dude.

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Tell me creature isn't the other mason.

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fair but

Tell me creature isn't the other mason.

Why should I care if he's the other mason?

Then he's the clear that sashaddin is following. Are you being intentionally dense?

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Whatever fits your story my man.

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Are you being intentionally dense?

Maybe? town shouldn't care who the other mason is. Scum actually need to know who the mason is b/c a confirm town mason is a minor threat to them. So FMPOV, whether or not Creature is the other mason matters not to me.

I like to think that he's following me since he said

I just checked out Profii, his last minute vote on Enigma is curious. Distancing a scum or trying to pull a townie?
I'd be fine with either of the others at this moment as well.

but it is true that he didn't vote till after Creature but if Sasha is scummy for following Creature around why is Lycan any different?

Just going to give Creature my vote today

Like he's blatantly buddying Creature and it's really weird b/c he tunneled Creature for two days. So why is one scummy for it and one isn't or is lycan also a scumread and you just haven't expressed it yet?

It could be Sasha buddying you since you shielded him, gives him an in. Lycan could be doing the same with me. But I'm not familiar with Lycan. I do however have a point if reference for sashaddin.

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but real talk,

I find it odd that RCE scum reads Sasha for following Creature but its either not scummy from you or he just hasn't expressed it yet. But anyways, I feel like you get mad is unwarranted and odd behavior.

I don't get the "I don't out a mason" thing.

I agree with the Mason thing though. Like it's pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together. It's not insignificant for town to know but meh.

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I'm cool with taking the L to chain lynch scum.

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I'd Lynch any of Sasha, Bujaber, eyes, overkill, Profii. No particular order.

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Do me proud.

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Something to keep in mind, Nero can't make it to lylo after I flip. I think he's town but scum will never kill him and that's extra wifom in a do or die situation.

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And I believe Bujaber had a part in manipulating Nero around that.

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This feels borderline anti wincon but it's for the greater good.

When I flip I want a direct apology for your terrible reads Nero.

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Just to me, idk about lycan. But probably him too.

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I'm assuming we dont have any invests btw cuz holy shit.

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VOTE: Bujaber for your consideration.

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Intent to hammer. If one of you wimps wants to unvote you have oh idk, 3-ish hours.

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Town is just playing badly this game, it happens.

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Overkill, Bujaber, ??? In that order. That's all.

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You guys can massclaim tomorrow if you want. Roster does my flip supplement your info in any way?

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Well so has Nero, and Bujaber. But that's none of my business *sips tea*

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Well no Nero called Jibril town at least.

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Actually, let's massclaim today then.

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VT as claimed, I'll send it to eyes.

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Creature is conf town.

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Damn did our whole scumteam claim VT? That's boss.

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Lolcat I guess.

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This is why we can't have nice things.

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I think that RCE is shooting my low tier scum reads that I mention in passing to try and get me to doubt myself and/or get others to think my reads are bad.

Also, your case for why RCE is town sucks more dick than Riley Reid.

Nah it's literally because I think your read on me sucks and I think your read on Lycan sucks and I think you scumreading but not scumreading Bujaber is weird. Your read on Sasha was good, I landed on the other side of maf/pr. It was definitely different from his VT game. And I think Overkill STILL getting a pass for doing less nothing than me sucks.

I also get the feeling you are going to claim some invest role and if that's the case then my townread on you was wrong and it probably means enigma or insomnia is town.

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Just Lynch me already. I can only roll my eyes so much in one game.

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VOTE: Overkill

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I haven't no.

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overkill, succinct, +1 maybe?

Creature locktown, rosters GS claim seems solid just bad checks. Outside of that I don't know. Lycan still town but it's like weak town rn.

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Because I'm not sure I can add Bujaber to that +1 or not.

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If I can eliminate Bujaber as a possible +1 it leaves you, insomnia, enigma and 2 of those 3 are voting succinct right now. So succinct is dependent on other reads whereas overkill isn't.

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0verki11's done two pretty uniquely towny things that come from MU players

The first was promoting a CFD (chinese fire drill) off of Jibril when one was still viable

The other has been providing cover for masons, which is basically commonplace meta there. That's not to say 0verki11 can't do MU-things here that seem vaguely towny in order to sound towny, but at the same time I'm not convinced he isn't a mason, but I imagine we'll have a good idea by the end of day.

Is he still your top scumread?

He is still my top scumread. Because overkill town means there is either a liar within the invest claims or that jibril was an all town wagon which is hard to wrap my head around. I think flippy's wagon is pretty much the same as jibrils with succinct on it? I'd have to go back and look.

If overkill is town then the pool looks a lot different and I'd re evaluate. I also find it hard to believe overkill is being pushed as the other mason over creature which makes a ton more sense so if someone could clear that up for me.

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Nero reevaluating his read on me especially after I emplied I've crumbed is also +town.

TBF, your "crumbs" really had nothing to do with it. Also, I think setup speck p much confirms you anyways.

or that jibril was an all town wagon

What if Overkill is town and the Jibril wagon being all town (save for yourself) is the exact reason you chose that to "POE" off of?

@ Eyes

can you stop playing like RCE's scumbuddy and vote him?

Yep, ya got it.

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No caution just Lynch me. I've been waiting 3 days for it.

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Well it's a townflip so. Goodluck I guess.

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Please dont in the name of all that is holy.

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Actually, both invests probably town. A third mason can be confirmed via creature tomorrow so it really doesn't matter if I think there is a third or not and he certainly doesn't have to claim it today.

I'm not sure the fact that scum didn't feel the need to claim PR means they haven't been getting pushed and are in a comfortable place or not.

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Why would I assume 3 masons? If you can support that via Stanley's iso fine. But your argument for town overkill having general off-site meta day 1 and not overkill specific meta at that, doesn't locktown him for me. Sorry.

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Bujaber is pigeonholed by his claim. Is Nero legit third mason? Is overkill innocent because you're informed or you just trust your read?

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As long as Bujaber is alive so is one of the confirmed town.

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As long as Bujaber is alive so is one of the confirmed town.

What I meant by pigeonholed.

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I like Lycan less today for the overkill hard defense. Think insomnia was probably buddying me in the event I flipped yesterday and I just see Enigma as a hard lurker and considering we just lynched 3 hard lurkers in a row with no success it just feels bad. If the team ends up being enigma/insomnia/eyes or something then town was just dogshit all game and destroyed itself. Which I find highly probable for what it's worth. I still want to be today's Lynch whether you think I'm town or not. Bujaber is obligated to keep roster or creature alive and if one dies then Bujaber essentially becomes...idk what role fits, the remaining conftown becomes bulletproof till Bujaber dies. I'd trust creatures reads personally but do what you want.

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I simply refuse to believe that the top wagons of every single day this game have all been on town.

Day 1: eyes, vedith, jibril
Day 2: creature, RCE, Flippy
Day 3: profii, RCe, Enigma, Succinct.

There is absolutely at least 2 scum in {Eyes, RCE, Enigma, Succinct}

And the remainder are in lycan, insomnia, overkill. Overkill is cleared upon RCE scum flip.

I could agree with that, the way the wagon swung away from eyes day 1 is significant I feel. It's probably the most scum motivated out of the three of eyes/enigma/succinct.

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I feel like Nero shields overkill regardless of my flip, it looks like creature opposes flipping overkill too. and overkill never flips if I dont. So I guess I'd go eyes, succinct, insomnia/enigma in that order.

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Much to my discomfort.

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Town has bussed itself all game like, if I were scum I'd feel pretty confident in townread all of my partners. This game is that bad.

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We've lynched 3 town in a row and have been working pretty hard for 4 to have a total of 8 townflips in a row. So if I have to say statistically speaking 1 in your group of 4 is probably going to be scum, yes you got it.

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Vote damn....

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Like I have to just hope Nero was wrong on me but pinned the exact scumteam despite that. Since Nero would t budge and town won't make their own decisions or man up and challenge him. With good reason but ehh.

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Hello? I want to avoid self hammering to make slots accountable but if I have to I'll self hammer by end of shift. ~7 hours.

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Hmm. Scum!Lycan doesn't continue to bash me here knowing I flip town. Don't Lynch him. NERO, that means you. VOTE: RCenigma

Consider that to be Eyes hammer for the record.

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Wait, unless Lycan isn't on my wagon then idk.

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Bujaber isn't conftown but considering his claim should be treated as town till he runs out of use. Roster/creature/Nero the townblock + Lycan if he's voting me.

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Besides Nero tunneling from my first posts it's been pretty fun.

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Trainwreck stopped moving I see. I'm not proud I was in this one. Awful game from me.

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And if he had listened to me the night actions would have been even better.
But seriously he did a great job.

@Sorry RCE - really sorry I rollee scum. I want to play a game with both of us being town sometime.

After day 1 I had that voice in my head going "this Bujaber guy doesn't feel right, figure it out" but was drowned out by Neros "LOL RCE SCUM GG" for like 3 days.

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Lost it at Welcome to hell. Damn Scumfucks lol.

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It happens, not making you a bad guy.