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Yes but I'm saying yesterday, before he flipped. His role wasn't being explained that way. I think it was Profii I discussed it with but I can't say that with certainty. It's still a bit fuzzy.
I think performer was just the shot, don't see the point in going for FL who would be protected or potentially jked. Anyone outside of Perf and the would have to medic dodge by killing off a low hanging fruit that wouldn't be saved but that disrupts mislynches so.-
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In post 2117, Nosferatu wrote:
fair enoughIn post 1978, Flavor Leaf wrote:Who’s absent from this list of 12 name?!? Maxous. That is actively staying away from it because partner Profii is pushing them, but Profii was sitting behind other people pushing it more.
VOTE: profii
scumreading both of them either way o/
pedit: i guess someone claimed someone dont fucking spoil it until i get thereIn post 2124, Nosferatu wrote:In post 2017, RCEnigma wrote:So Maxous is not scum or any third party.
hol upIn post 2057, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Actually thinking about it my role has about the same utility, so I’m CCing this.In post 2004, RCEnigma wrote:I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.
I am a Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter. So I have ability to target a player at night, and if I die and they are scum they die too. So I’m kinda like a disloyal bomb. This role is why I was upset at the quickhammer, as I wanted to crumb a target for last night.
Now why does the mod include a one shot disloyal vig with a role that kinda does the same thing but with more intrigue (the role has to die to take effect) and more effectiveness (Ascetic means I cannot be roleblocked). The simple answer? He didn’t.
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pedit: oh really? yikes-
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So I'm expected to believe the one time you decided to vote *during* your catchup it just happened to be the *accidental* hammer. Keep in mind you didn't set a precedent for how your catchup comes together. Every time you checked in beforehand was to nitpick at a recent argument or two, or deliver a readslist.
So yes it makes sense, don't give me that.-
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Ok so considering why they chose performer over myself I'm leaning that scum were not in my pool of CT/Shattiel/ofhrz. More confident on Shattiel not being the scum there since I've been pretty against him from day 1. It was safe to assume that would be my check.
That leaves a pool for me of Nero/garmr/nos/xx/saudade if I'm forgetting someone remind me I'm blanking.
It's fortunate for us because I can confirm myself as town if I'm not shot tonight giving us a lock town block of Myself, Flavor, CT, Maxous, and possibly one of AP or Gamma. The larger the scumteam the better the chances are of flipping scum today anyways. I don't want to spend today talking about who Performer might have blocked because it's just wifom, we don't know.
But for the record how does the interaction of roleblocker blocking another roleblocker work?-
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Wrt the Profii Lynch this is probably your towniest post. Being adamant about your case catching scum and that Profii would flip scum seems like town thinking they're right.In post 2193, Garmr wrote:
Yeah no fuck off my case on profii was the best one. I been pushing Profii all day.In post 2109, AP wrote:I propose I should target RCE. RCE targets Garmr/Saudade. Gamma is also on RCE. Performer does what he wants.
The reason I want Garmer/Saudade checked is their votes on profii suck. I'm not buying Saudade playing the sheep all the time, and Garmr basically sneaked into the wagon out of nowhere.
But maybe I should think more about it to make use of Performer's abilities?
P.S. Many of you know why I have been a bit quiet today, but for those who don't, I've been busy preparing for the launch of my new game, setting up PTs (including 3 hydra slots), sending out Role PMs, verifying links in Role PMs for the umpteenth time, etc.
But that doesn't take you out of my Lynch pool. If it makes you feel any better I would Lynch at least nos, saudade, Nero, carca before you.-
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VOTE: SaudadeIn post 2323, Saudade wrote:vote me without an open thought process harder boys
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Two had the exact same role. Evaluate a world where all claim roles are town:In post 2396, xx2008 wrote:Three JOATS in one game?
AP
Myself
Gamma
Performer
Add flipped roles in:
CT
FL
Dva
We started with what 19 players?
7 prs 8 or 9 vts and 3 or 4 scum (I think 4 is more likely)
Which seems like a lot but they break down as:
FL - confirmed VT
Dva - chances of impeding a town Pr over a scum Pr are pretty high
CT/Performer/myself - high impact but very limited window of opportunity
Gamma - turned out to be high impact even with the claim
AP - can't really confirm his role works aside from preventing a nightkill which the chances get better the longer the game goes however starts night 1 with a 1 in 17 chances of choosing the correct target. Even now his odds are low.
We also don't know the abilities of the remaining scum.
Unfortunately one of my checks was modkilled but I'm willing to give up my life to keep a confirmed town alive and actually get some use out of my role.
So I'm willing to be today's Lynch, that will confirm Maxous as town and then scum have to choose between leaving Maxous or FL alive (they will leave FL alive for the saudade factor).-
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Based on this?In post 949, Saudade wrote:Flavor Leaf are you sure sephi is scum
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Idk, I think everyone looks kind of town ish, except for saudade and FL is hard advocating saudade town. I'd actually vote Garmr for defending there. If Saudade is actually town then scum doesn't lose much by keeping him around. They just can't take him to lylo.
Ofhrz, the way I spoke yesterday should have been pretty obvious I was using a protective power, I hinted at being able to confirm myself with a no kill or at least get myself targeted.
With that in mind I commuted thinking I could be the target and scum thinks I'm using my heal on FL. It only partially worked, they avoided FL at least. Gamma made a hell of a play btw. Scum probably targeted him thinking he was saving FL as well.-
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Well to kill Max it would psuedo clear me. I claimed two investigative checks (CT and Maxous) CT flipped town already, killing Maxous would mean my only checks were both town.In post 2616, xx2008 wrote:
Then wouldn't they kill max or ap?In post 2612, RCEnigma wrote:Because I could save FL last night and if they kill me in the night they also confirm Maxous as town. Thats pretty simple, I didn't expect to die in the night. I did think scum would target AP if he were town though.
I want to think things over before I vote again.
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That really only benefits me as scum if I kill both to claim the credit then wifom against AP whom would be town if I'm scum.
It also would have had to be a long con since I had no way of knowing CT would be modkilled.-
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So all my abilities were 1 shot:
-Disloyal vig
-Cop check
-Commuter (couldn't be targeted) this was the night I tried to pull the night kill.
I very well could have lost this game for town last night. I don't have a protective ability. I just had to kind of bluff it to keep FL alive at least one more night regardless of who we flipped. If scum didn't buy it we lose FL anyway, I get lynched today and I think that's game if AP is scum. Town doesn't have a way to prevent 2v2 and I doubt there's only 1 scum left.-
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Hmm I don't think I try to steer you off your Maxous tunnel unless he's my partner but I suppose you're right. Though me being scum probably just means AP is town.In post 2621, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, that doesn’t clear you at all. You have it flipped. Maxous can’t be scum unless you are scum, but you can be scum without Maxous.-
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Based on the VCA I think we can rule out a team of AP/XX even without Nero's/creatures push against xx. AP and Garmr only vote together on flubber but numberswise there is always 1 between them if not both. Iirc AP moved on to the wagon without really having any opinion on the slot. I don't remember Garmr's interactions with flubber early but it is something I'll look into. Don't know how necessary that is even with a mislynch here (though I doubt garmr flips green) AP becomes confscum. If 0 scum voted on flubber I would be floored.
On a red flip I would Lynch saudade first, green Lynch AP obviously.
AP very well could nk in the night if he is scum but keep in mind a no kill doesn't give town an extra Lynch if we Lynch wrong today.
Haven't agreed with FL a ton this game but I think he's right on Garmr.
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Not regarding your thought processess, just the blind pushes (Maxous, Profii) specifically.In post 2705, Flavor Leaf wrote:I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.-
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