Mini 1051: Utopia Mafia - Game Over


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Mini 1051: Utopia Mafia - Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:26 pm

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A messenger approaches. His clothing is ragged, and his body is marked from years of service. He is recognisable almost instantly as the personal messenger from the Monarch of your Kingdom The Wise Sid of Oman. He coughs loudly and stands, his presence immediately silencing the chatter about economics and military.


"From the Wise King Sid of Oman - Scumchat (10:51),

My military had been incapacitated. My mystics dis empowered. My thieves have been revealed. For now, my peasantry are rebuilding their homes and my province is incapacitated. I have used my remaining resources to shore up defenses, and my remaining Guilds to determine my attacker. After much deliberation I can say that I have no good news. I cannot determine the number of attackers who brought me down, nor their identity. The only thing I can determine is that the attacks came from within our Kingdom.

Be brave, my weaker provinces, and my more powerful Lieutenants, we must find these rogue provinces and remove them from our Kingdom before we are all destroyed."

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The messenger ends his duty. He seems forlorn.

"If I may Sirs, our strategies have worked too well. We are all too strong to be brought down quickly. For that reason I suggest a group effort. That we decide on who our traitors are and remove them.

Sirs, it will also benefit you to be aware that we are not yet at war. Our military, mystics, and thieves will require time to increase their efforts to a warlike status. As we do conduct more warlike operations, our armies and operatives will become more effective, and more ruthless."
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Provinces of Scumchat (10:51)
  • eldarad
  • Flameaxe
  • Fishythefish
  • Erg0
  • VP Baltar
  • animorpherv1
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  • JDodge
  • Debonair Danny DiPietro

Our Kingdom Morns The Loss Of:
  • Exe - Halfling/Rogue - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day One
  • Shanba - Dark Elf/Mystic - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day Two
  • Kast - Human/Warrior - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night Two
  • Domino
    a2rudeboy - Orc/Tactician - Mafia Roleblocker - Killed Night Two
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Mafia:
AT WAR!

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Replacements-in-waiting:

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:59 pm

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Rules
(Made possible by Mr. Flay. Stolen, and modified, from Crub, who probably theifed them from meme in some way)
[01]
Votes must be in bold.
If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted. Vote tag is also acceptable
[02]
Please be attentive and unvote,
if necessary, before casting a new vote. It will not count otherwise.
[03]
Lynching will require a simple majority of votes.
Once a player has reached the necessary majority, their pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. Feel free to post and pm in twilight, though.
[04] You may vote: no lynch. Majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
[05]
Days will last 3 weeks long max. You have one (1) extension of 1 week. If you want the extension: PM me.
If I impose a day deadline the player with the most votes will be lynched (this includes no lynch). In case of a tie, first come, first served. In case of an endgame (six players or fewer) only simply majority lynches will occur.
[07]
Do not discuss this game outside the thread unless your role states that you may.
No-one may post in the thread when I declare it night (In case I don't lock it).
[08]
Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing.
Not even a “Bah!” post. Just, just stop. Fingers off the keys. You're no longer breathing. Save it for after the game is over.
[09] No small or invisible text. Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts either.
[10]
Don’t quote any PMs from me or other players. If you do, I will cast Summon Nature's Modkill V on you.
Also, if you have anything sneaky or dicey such as screenshots, cryptography etc, please PM me and check.

[11]
If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline.
Night will last 48hrs max. I will not wait for you. If you do not submit a choice to me, its a No Choice.
If you have a power and don't want to use it PM me "none" "no action" or similar to keep the game fast.

[12] If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM me. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
[13] Unlike Crub I am not fallible.
Please point out any mistakes in reality by PM, even if it seems its my fault.
In particular, if I post a vote count that does not accurately reflect your vote, please PM me.
[14] There is no Rule 6
[15] OOC texts are my mod texts.
Please don't use them.
I know what I write, and if you try to pass yourself off as me, you shall feel pain.
[16]
Play to win this game.
Do not use it to build a meta-game of yourself for other games, this game is an island. Also,
all players must read their role PMs and understand their role before playing.
If you have a question PM me.
[17] Remember, it’s a game and it’s supposed to be
fun.
Be nice to your fellow players and your mod.

I also would ask you to consider Mith's Forum Guidelines. Anything that isn't in my rules won't be enforced without thought and discussion, but lets try to keep to the spirit of it.

townie role PM wrote:Congratulations, you have been playing as a [Race/Personality]. Unfortunately due to the traitors’ actions you have been left with little ability to attack, defend your own province, or to cast any spells of use. Your thieves have been revealed and mercilessly slaughtered in the night. However, thanks to the glory of democracy you can gather with the rest of the kingdom to wear down defences of single province each day. During the day you can vote for the person who you believe to be a traitor to the kingdom, however during the night you’ll have to log off so you can get some sleep. Who knows what will happen then? You win when all threats to the Kingdom have been eliminated. Please reply with your role so that I can be sure you’ve read this PM.
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New Role PMs trump the old Role PMs in every way, including but not limited to Powers
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:06 pm

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First post to annoy oman in a long time.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:35 pm

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All have confirmed. Not modkilling Flameaxe...yet :P

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm

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How about now?
Vote: Ani


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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:27 pm

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Vote: Ani


Sounds like a good deal to me.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:31 pm

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Checking in. Is anyone familiar with the source material? I am not.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:51 pm

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Vote: ani


Sucks to be you.

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:05 am

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Vote: VP Baltar


Teach you to steal the Tool avatar gimmick that I stole from Green Crayons.

No real knowledge about the source material here. I'm planning to read up on it when I have a bit of free time.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:14 am

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vote: VP Baltar
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:33 am

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Vote: Jdodge


Let's lynch him before he inevitably replaces out.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:34 am

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I'M NOT BITTER
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:05 am

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I have something legitimate to suggest. This is not random.
Sides gain power as deaths occur, correct? The description of the game said it might be possible that we would consider lynching a townie for the power it gives.
So what does this mean to us?
I think it would not be a terrible idea to begin the game with a policy lynch. Namely Ani. If he comes up Scum, bravo to our luck. If he is town, then maybe we will start getting some powers. And either way, it gets rid of Ani.
Vote: Ani

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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:40 am

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Until and unless we have good reason to think otherwise, we should be trying to lynch scum. The fact that lynching town has a compensation reduces how important that is, but doesn't eliminate it. So while a random or policy lynch is less bad than it normally would be, it's still not a good plan.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:22 am

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Checking in.

Counterwagon go!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:29 am

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Unvote, Vote: Exe


I like challenges and all, but that was a damn scummy suggestion. There's my thought on it.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:29 am

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challenges as in, Exe just outted himself as scum...just realized that could be read differently :P
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:32 am

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@Exe/Fishy-
Strongly agree with Fishy. We should still aim to lynch scum.

Side thought from Exe's comment, scum have more incentive to bus in this game than a standard game. This should be taken into account especially in late game considerations.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:42 am

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Fishy's response is logical and thoughtful. Townlike. Kast as well.
VP Baltar, your response jumped immediately on the easiest, most extreme argument...doesn't read well. You didn't actually consider the suggestion or my reasons for it, you just hopped on an easy scumtell.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:42 am

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Exe wrote:I have something legitimate to suggest. This is not random.
Sides gain power as deaths occur, correct? The description of the game said it might be possible that we would consider lynching a townie for the power it gives.
So what does this mean to us?
I think it would not be a terrible idea to begin the game with a policy lynch. Namely Ani. If he comes up Scum, bravo to our luck. If he is town, then maybe we will start getting some powers. And either way, it gets rid of Ani.
Vote: Ani

Thoughts?
As if enough players haven't pointed out, no. Think of it this way, we gain power due to deaths, yes, but we also lose power from numbers. We also lose any potential power said townie would have, if he were to live. Yes, while the town generally "gains", the possibility of losing an individual power makes this idea fairly stupid.

I'd also like to add that while this game does have differing mechanics from most games in that we would gain power on faction death, it's still a mafia game. It still has town, it still has mafia. If the town lynches the mafia, the town wins. If the mafia kills off the town to gain a majority, the mafia wins. That doesn't change, and because of that our approach to this game shouldn't either.

However, I would like to point out that I am torn between idiotic or scummy when it comes to this case. I'd like to see his reaction to the negativity regarding his proposition.

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:47 am

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Ugh, ninja'd. I guess that takes care of my "see how he reacts" part of my post.

I kind of agree with your reactions, minus the view of Kast's post. His main point regarding bussing was fine and dandy, but when it comes to commenting on your post, nothing special pops out. He agreed with fishy and restated fishy's point. I personally wouldn't jump straight to townie with that, it just didn't require any effort. It's like if I said now "I agree with shanba, he isn't bitter.", I'm not adding anything special with the comment, just rehashing points.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:50 am

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Hmm. You may have a point on my Kast comment. I considered the rest of his post as the thoughtful part. In comparison to VP Baltar. Your idea is noted though.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:57 am

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@Flameaxe-
My post had two very distinct points. The former is as you describe. The latter was not even remotely hinted at in any prior post. Please clarify whether you missed the point or genuinely think it added nothing.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:02 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Exe
I feel he's buddying to me by trying to reinforce the "wrong, but not scummy" attitude that I displayed in my reply to him. I also feel he's using the reaction of Kast and myself as a way of discrediting VPB's attack, which isn't a valid argument.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:05 am

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First Point wrote:He agreed with fishy and restated fishy's point. I personally wouldn't jump straight to townie with that, it just didn't require any effort. It's like if I said now "I agree with shanba, he isn't bitter.", I'm not adding anything special with the comment, just rehashing points.
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