Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

Xtoxm · Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:22 pm

On a scale of 1-10, how bastardly do you want the game to be (10 = evil)?

Evil!!! (10)

On a scale of 1-10, how complex/unbalanced are you comfortable with roles being (10=lol)?

10 = Lol!!!

Rank these themes, in order from best to worst:

Things that don’t make sense - Sounds fun!
Historical Disfigurements - Also sounds cool.
Existentialism - Never heard of this, but it sounds like a pretty cool word. I'm not going to check what it means just for the fun of it.

Pokemon, Digimon, & Harry Potter - Go die.
Authority Figures - Go die.
Literary Characters - Go Die. Now.

I promise nothing, theme-wise. I might be asking about these themes solely for my enjoyment.

Yay.

Any other themes you might want to see come into play?

Probably, but nothing that comes to mind. Maybe film? Films are fun.

Any specific roles/types of roles you want to see in play?

No skulkers, I HATE skulkers.

Any game mechanics?

Am I expected to know what this question is asking?

Want lots of flavor? None?

I put 2 Q's in the same quote!!

OMG!

Flavour = Yay.

I may completely ignore this, but any public expectations you have for this game, make them known here, and I'll ignore them, or if you are lucky, take them into account.

I have no expections in mind for this game.

Xtoxm · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:31 pm

vollkan wrote:
Xtoxm wrote: No skulkers, I HATE skulkers.
What on earth is a skulker?

The crappy role in where you die if anyone targets you with any night action, ever in the game.

Xtoxm · Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:15 pm

hasdgfas wrote:I'm excited.

Me too

I support DG kill

Xtoxm · Post Post #48 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:43 am

vollkan wrote:
Paradoxombie wrote: I gotta say, I don't trust Adel's private question answers. She put a 1 for the alignment question but couldn't she very easily PM a real set of private answers, maybe putting 10 for that? Seems like an early attempt to gain the future town's trust. Same goes for her putting 9 for being comfortable ith a post restriction, couldn't that be a prospective mafia's excuse to lurk?

FOS
You're being conspiratorial already?

Yes, this is mod selection. We should be forming opinions already of who we think the scum are.

Xtoxm · Post Post #79 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:03 am

Uberscummy cicero!

vote cicero

Xtoxm · Post Post #135 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:13 am

Shouldn't it be 6 to lynch?

Xtoxm · Post Post #137 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Gaurdian implied the some people recieved roles early. Perhaps the scum did?

Xtoxm · Post Post #138 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:28 pm

NabNab, does your role make sense?

Xtoxm · Post Post #140 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:07 pm

xyzzy wrote:I propose a massclaim at some point. We'll lynch whoever has the most normal role.

Actually, that could be a little dangerous. We don't know what Guardian is planning... >.<

I think that would be a good idea.

Xtoxm · Post Post #142 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:36 pm

Adel, why are you against massclaiming? Because you are scum and have nothing to claim?

vote Adel

Xtoxm · Post Post #154 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:22 pm

How about this one - Honest suggestion, honest agreement. No, that's impossible. No, i'm being silly. It simply can't be.

Xtoxm · Post Post #170 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:41 am

Happy with my vote on Adel...

Xtoxm · Post Post #174 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:45 am

NabakovNabakov wrote:
shaft.ed wrote: And
FoS NabNab
for his overly hard pushback of the claim supporters.
I'll push back against bullshit, and I definitely smell bullshit amongst the claim supporters. So far, the best I've gotten out of them is When. I'm looking for the
Why
. There certainly is one; nobody does anything without a Why. I just suspect that at least a few of them wouldn't be comfortable sharing their Why with the entire town.

I think you need to recalibrate your threashold for "hard". Voting someone for something you see as suspicious and stating your reasons is acceptably hard. Joining the biggest bandwagon just to see what happens is not.

Why? To try and figure out who scum are ofcourse.

I guess they could have safeclaims, hadn't thought of it. Anyway I think all the claim supporters are town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #176 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:49 am

Adel wrote:nabnab: do you hear a VI typing? i think i do.

???

Xtoxm · Post Post #178 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:53 am

Wtf??

Xtoxm · Post Post #181 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:55 am

Right I don't have a clue what's going on here.

Should I claim?

Xtoxm · Post Post #183 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:58 am

What?

Xtoxm · Post Post #185 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:03 am

Why are you voting me?

Xtoxm · Post Post #187 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:38 am

Xtoxm · Post Post #188 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:38 am

You are making absolutley no sense

Xtoxm · Post Post #189 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:39 am

I'm gonna claim if I get another vote on me guys.

Xtoxm · Post Post #212 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:36 am

That's very vagua link to draw from it. What I initially thoughtwhen I saw that last section was perhaps we should No Lynch.

I really can't see how any of the rest of it relates to this game. Perhaps someone has something rolebased it connects too. I dunno.

Xtoxm · Post Post #230 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:08 am

Well, I don't think Paradox is scum, not liking this wagon.

The extra vote is obviously in some way linked to the fact it's 7 to lynch with 11 alive (would normally be six). Could poss be a dub voter I guess.

Notice how Gaurdian is emphasicing this TV being on. Maybe it turns off at night? Maybe it being on gives an extra vote to the largest wagon?

Xtoxm · Post Post #232 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:10 am

I think his support of the MC was genuine and he seems to have pro-town intentions.

Xtoxm · Post Post #236 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:59 am

In fairness I did think he meant day 1, and that's what I was supporting. If rolename's are anything like mine there's no link that can be drawn to the actual role, and I thought it might out the scum by having useless claims.

Xtoxm · Post Post #247 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:15 am

NabakovNabakov wrote:Claim 1. W
Claim 2. I
Claim 3. F
Claim 4. O
Claim 5. M

@Paradoxombie: If that was your explanation for why a massclaim could benefit the town, why didn't you share pages ago?

Xtoxm wrote: If rolename's are anything like mine there's no link that can be drawn to the actual role, and I thought it might out the scum by having useless claims.
What makes you think only role-names would be acceptable?

I didn't think we'd want a role claim on day 1, I don't think that's such a great idea...

Xtoxm · Post Post #249 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:33 am

Popcorn?

I don't just want one person choosing how it's gonna go.

Xtoxm · Post Post #252 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:12 am

From the way DG died I assumed exact roles are not revealed on death. I guess cicero brings up some good points.

Xtoxm · Post Post #277 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:39 am

xyzzy seems to be lurking a lot. I don't like that...

Xtoxm · Post Post #283 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:22 am

Hmm, forgotenn compeltely about that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #285 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:16 pm

Hmm. Well, my anme has nothing to do with Harry Potter.

Perhaps stuff to do with Harry Potter is the scum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #287 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:40 pm

I'm trying to help town figure out the scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #289 (isolation #32) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:49 pm

Still happy with my vote on Adel.

Xtoxm · Post Post #292 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:06 pm

How is it a hint?

I was saying that it could be that Harry Potter or similar type roles are scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #294 (isolation #34) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:13 pm

Is your role Harry Potter, or Harry Potter related?

Xtoxm · Post Post #310 (isolation #35) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:10 am

Popcorn!

Xtoxm · Post Post #311 (isolation #36) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:13 am

I agree xyzzy needs to be pressured.

unvote vote xyzzy

.

Still think Adel would be a good lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #314 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:23 am

shaft.ed wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Popcorn!
Caramel, buttered or white cheddar?

Um...Salted?

Xtoxm · Post Post #318 (isolation #38) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:14 am

I think Adel is a good lynch, guys.

Xtoxm · Post Post #321 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:58 pm

Were we to do it, that's how I want it done.

Only supportive of a rolename claim in the forseeable future.

Xtoxm · Post Post #348 (isolation #40) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:03 am

I am Napolean's Dynamite and i'm a Doctor.

Volkan, what is your question?

Xtoxm · Post Post #349 (isolation #41) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:03 am

I'm in the "Doesn't make sense town" which you can see DGB was a part of.

Xtoxm · Post Post #353 (isolation #42) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:09 am

You guys are going to lynch. The only way to stop it is claiming. Lynch Adel.

Xtoxm · Post Post #354 (isolation #43) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:09 am

*lynch me

Xtoxm · Post Post #359 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:48 am

Stop rolefishing. I'll answer that if over half the people in the game want me too.

Xtoxm · Post Post #366 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:31 am

You do cicero.

Xtoxm · Post Post #367 (isolation #46) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:31 am

You're the only one, I believe.

Xtoxm · Post Post #368 (isolation #47) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:32 am

Other than the deceased DG.

Xtoxm · Post Post #369 (isolation #48) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:33 am

Oh wait, I forgot about volkan and hasdfgas, played with them too.

Xtoxm · Post Post #374 (isolation #49) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:31 am

I thought the reference was to a rolename claim, I'm sure i've said that before.

Xtoxm · Post Post #376 (isolation #50) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am

cicero wrote:Xtoxm, which game were we in together before? I don't recall you playing this way before. Doctor Who?

Yeh we were in Dr. Who together. I can't tell if i'm playing similarly or not.

Xtoxm · Post Post #378 (isolation #51) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:59 am

I replaced mcpalpt after u were quacked.

Xtoxm · Post Post #379 (isolation #52) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:01 pm

I didn't read back cos it was like 80 pages in so I didn't see anything you did Adel.

Xtoxm · Post Post #385 (isolation #53) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:36 pm

No, they just came into my head after I spoke.

Xtoxm · Post Post #388 (isolation #54) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:11 pm

Yays i'm sigged lol

Xtoxm · Post Post #391 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:32 am

vollkan wrote:@Xtoxm:
Volkan wrote:
My question was simple:

You said you only wanted a mass rolename claim. Ergo, you did not want a massclaim proper. And yet, you were/are voting Adel for not wanting a mass claim - ie. doing precisely what you are doing. Is that not hypocrisy?
Answer please.

I don't know. But I think it's likely Adel is scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #392 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:32 am

cicero wrote:Hey all. I'm not V/LA but work and life are hectic for the next bit so my posting frequency, and specifically, depth - are going to be a little un-cicero. Enjoy the breathing room?

Xtoxm · Post Post #394 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:59 am

I'm sorry i'm not as good as you.

I don't like the way (s?)he responded about not wanting to claim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #397 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:27 am

Wrong, try again

Xtoxm · Post Post #400 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:23 am

I claimed because I said I would if someone voted me again.

Rogueben did.

Thought I was closer to lynch than -4 too.

Xtoxm · Post Post #402 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:44 am

viewtopic.php?p=957192#957192

I'm not. If i'm missing stuff sorry.

Xtoxm · Post Post #405 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:16 am

shaft.ed wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:viewtopic.php?p=957192#957192

I'm not. If i'm missing stuff sorry.
You did notice that you had net votes removed from you prior to Ben's vote?

...

No...

But still in my defense my statement wasn't conditional on no votes being removed...But I guess i'm being pedantic now.

But seriously, you could see the lynch was coming my way, couldn't you? I couldn't see any other way around it.

Note - I am purposely not responding to NN - Or anything else to do with my role right now. Ok?

Xtoxm · Post Post #409 (isolation #62) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:14 am

shaft.ed wrote:
Adel wrote:shaft.ed: if I follow your logic, then that means that Xtoxm should be the person lynched today. Did I miss something?
If my assumption is correct. Have to figure that out first.

And what is this assumption?

Xtoxm · Post Post #412 (isolation #63) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:19 am

I'm not a "VI" NN, and if you keep being disrespectful to me I shall do the same to you.

Xtoxm · Post Post #414 (isolation #64) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:53 am

That's interesting...Way I read it, he's implying one of us is Pikachu and has a day kill...

Xtoxm · Post Post #423 (isolation #65) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:37 pm

Lynch Adel.

No I wasn't scum.

I also had OSV kill.

Xtoxm · Post Post #424 (isolation #66) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:38 pm

Taking this off watched topics.

Xtoxm · Post Post #505 (isolation #67) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:10 pm

Guardian has asked me to keep playing until my death is announced.

Why are you voting me shaft.ed?

Xtoxm · Post Post #507 (isolation #68) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:11 pm

Can't help but notice there is a Paradox wagon.

Why is this?

When I left I remember thinking of him as very town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #508 (isolation #69) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:12 pm

hasdgfas wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Guardian has asked me to keep playing until my death is announced.

Why are you voting me shaft.ed?
How about you read his post right above yours to find out?

Because my prod response is not instantaneous?

Great reason. I was asking why he was really voting me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #512 (isolation #70) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:54 pm

Adel, do you have daykill powers or was it a hoax?

Xtoxm · Post Post #521 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:17 pm

shaft.ed wrote:Oh and Xtoxm which is it Doctor, or OSV?

Both.

Could there be 2 docs?

Xtoxm · Post Post #522 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:18 pm

PX, I don't like her tactics regarding me either, I think Adel would be a good lynch too.

Xtoxm · Post Post #535 (isolation #73) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:48 am

No I don't think he's a good lynch, How about xyzzy

Xtoxm · Post Post #537 (isolation #74) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:20 am

Xtoxm · Post Post #542 (isolation #75) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:08 pm

Lol...Do you think it possible/likely that anyone in the game has a post restriction?

I'm guessing atleast one person does cos there was a whole question on it in Guardians questionarre.

Xtoxm · Post Post #544 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:18 pm

Yah...Adel keeps avoiding answering this Q.

I propose a vow of silence til he answers...

Xtoxm · Post Post #549 (isolation #77) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:31 am

Adel wrote:I'd answer it if only I could stop laughing so hard! It makes my fingers shake!

If i'm alive when tonight comes, and you refuse to answer, I will attempt to use my one shot on you.

Xtoxm · Post Post #566 (isolation #78) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:02 am

I think cicero is the one with a post restriction...He posted a LOAD more in Dr. Who.

Xtoxm · Post Post #568 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:33 am

Yes, but that was AGES ago.

Xtoxm · Post Post #570 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:41 am

I think a good lynch would be xyyzy.

When exactly is the deadline?

Xtoxm · Post Post #572 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:54 am

Oh. Sorry. I'm a littles slow, lol. I did actually read it but just forgot completely.

Xtoxm · Post Post #573 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:56 am

Adel, why did you fake daykilling me, and why after I came back were you unwilling to talk about it?

Xtoxm · Post Post #575 (isolation #83) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:47 am

That's cos i'm thinking fake-vigging is probly a town thing to do.

xyyxy has lurked a lot and seems to be trying to just avoid attention to me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #579 (isolation #84) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:28 am

Adel wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:Adel why aren't you bandwagoning?

unvote
nothing came of that
good catch! I was with para-zombie, and to a lesser degree with Xtomxm, and I have allready pulled that on everyone else here, or at in front of them, at least once. People in this game (outside of para and xtoxm) know me well enough that I don't expect to learn much from pulling the same old shit, besides I was having a ton of fun daykilling xtoxm and showing him to be a VI with a very large post count.

You call me a VI but my personal record of figuring out who scum are has been pretty good, I like to think.

Xtoxm · Post Post #582 (isolation #85) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:51 am

Adel wrote:
Xtoxm wrote: You call me a VI but my personal record of figuring out who scum are has been pretty good, I like to think.
of all of the times you have been a doctor in your previous games, what percentage of the time did you protect scum?

I'll have you know that the figure is less than 100% cause of active games.

Bastard!

Of completed, 1 out of 1 protection. In a newbie.

Xtoxm · Post Post #584 (isolation #86) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:55 am

Heh heh.

Also, I just realized something.

I think shaft is completely clear.

There's no such thing as scum double voter, is there?

Xtoxm · Post Post #589 (isolation #87) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:46 am

Ah, that actually an interesting idea. You just reminded of a "vote giver" role that was present in the Dr. Who mafia I replaced into.

Xtoxm · Post Post #590 (isolation #88) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:46 am

However, the vote was only giveable at night.

Xtoxm · Post Post #592 (isolation #89) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:06 am

Oh, I must have missed that bit.

Xtoxm · Post Post #596 (isolation #90) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:57 pm

Night soon, i'm hopeing xyyzy will be lynched.

To kill, or not to kill..That is the question..

Xtoxm · Post Post #599 (isolation #91) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:53 pm

What? It's 7 to lynch..

Xtoxm · Post Post #620 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:08 am

What's that got to do with anything?

Xtoxm · Post Post #622 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:27 am

Mystery role is such an easy claim.

Do you think Guardian would put one in the game?

Guardian, you play/played IRC mafia?

Xtoxm · Post Post #626 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:34 am

shaft.ed wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Mystery role is such an easy claim.

Do you think Guardian would put one in the game?

Guardian, you play/played IRC mafia?
I have a mystery role as well.

Ohh...

Well, I think shaft is town.

I guess we'll be able to get more info from xyyzy, about what his night action does.

2 mystery roles... :O

I guess i'll be up for a RB lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #635 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:52 am

I'll go with shaft on this.

unvote vote RB

.

Xtoxm · Post Post #638 (isolation #96) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:04 am

NabakovNabakov wrote:Xtoxm:

Acronyms aren't going to cut it

Much Love.

NabNab

@Cicero: Vote RB y/n?

Hmm. Lets let guardian decide that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #639 (isolation #97) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:05 am

shaft.ed wrote:
NabakovNabakov wrote:Xtoxm: Then vote for him damnit. Adel too. I'll be on all day and can move if necessary to a lynch.

Unvote; Vote: Rogueben

(I realize this contradicts what I just said about clouded wagons, but I really do like this wagon better than the other two options, and I'll try to post a PBPA later today to make up for it)

Paradoxombie[2] (cicero, vollkan)
xyzzy[5] (Xtoxm, Paradoxombie, Lawrencelot, Adel, Rogueben)
Rogueben[3](Shaft.ed, NabNab)

10 on, 6 to lynch. If Xtoxm and Adel vote, we only have to pull one more vote to Rogueben or an unvote off the board.
I find vote counts to be a universal scumtell.
IGMEOY: NabNab

I've seen someone do this only once before and they were a townie. (DGB, in another game). So I don't think there's anything behind that FOS.

Xtoxm · Post Post #645 (isolation #98) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:40 am

Liking my new voting powers.

Xtoxm · Post Post #647 (isolation #99) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:51 am

Check out VC 11!

Xtoxm · Post Post #651 (isolation #100) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:00 am

hasdgfas wrote:
Adel wrote:Is there a hammer in the room?
Don't we want a claim first?

Ofcourse not, don't be silly!

Adel - VC!! Sheesh, do you guys not read

anything

here?!

Xtoxm · Post Post #654 (isolation #101) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:06 am

Adel wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
Adel wrote:Is there a hammer in the room?
Don't we want a claim first?
Ding Ding Ding!
FoS Adel
and why didn't you FOS para-zombie for placing him at -1 to lynch without warning?

What claim would stop us from lynching him? Doctor? Cop? Lovestruck teen capitalist with delusions of happiness? Whatever... is there a jhammer in the room?

Fos
shaft.ed for fosing me and not para-zombie. The contradiction is clear.

No it's not. Your reaction surprises me...

There's a big difference between L-1 and L-0.

Xtoxm · Post Post #657 (isolation #102) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:45 am

You're failure to notice anything is no longer amusing me.

I was joking.

Guardian wrote:
Vote Count 11

Pikachu wants to kill someone... but the lightning is approaching... The light from all the bolts striking around you lights up the sky as if it were daytime...:

Rogueben[5] (shaft.ed, NabakovNabakov, Adel, Xtoxm)
xyzzy[4] (Xtoxm, Paradoxombie, Lawrencelot, Rogueben)
Paradoxombie[2] (cicero, vollkan)

7 to lynch

Xtoxm · Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:07 am

Paradoxombie wrote:I don't like Adel's Fos.

Nor do I.

Xtoxm · Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:27 am

Basically I agree with adel.

Maybe that. Not really too much i've noticed actually.

Thoughts on whether I should kill tonight please?

Xtoxm · Post Post #676 (isolation #105) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:11 pm

Paradoxombie wrote:I don't see how my vote could be any weaker than your vote on Xyzzy, Rogueben.

What do you mean?

Xtoxm · Post Post #678 (isolation #106) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:39 pm

Paradoxombie wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Paradoxombie wrote:I don't see how my vote could be any weaker than your vote on Xyzzy, Rogueben.
What do you mean?
It seems hypocritical that rogueben calls my vote weak when his vote on Xyzzy had absolutely no substance. How could his vote, made solely to prevent a no-lynch, be excusable when my vote on him had actual reasoning to back it and was closer to deadline?

I certainly wasn't sure you were scum and I never pretended to be. Is that what makes my vote weak?

Ah kk thnx, I see what you mean.

Xtoxm · Post Post #682 (isolation #107) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:12 pm

The only that comes to mind for me is that link being a vig makes sense.

Xtoxm · Post Post #685 (isolation #108) » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:40 pm

shaft.ed wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:The only that comes to mind for me is that link being a vig makes sense.
He's 100% town

I have strong reason to believe him and I are not on the same team. And I know i'm town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #694 (isolation #109) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:07 am

After his latest addition i'm pretty sure he's town, and I don't like Adel's answer there at all.

Xtoxm · Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:28 am

What I think he means is we are in twilight, with a NL.

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:18 am

I killed volkan.

NN was on my team.

volkan was not.

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:23 am

Seeing as RB is a forced vig i'd like to know what he did...

RB...Did you kill NN?

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:45 am

I thought he was scum.

And it looks more than likely to have been the case.

He is certainly not on my team.

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 am

NabakovNabakov wrote:Are "bah" posts allowed?

2. Once you are dead you can no longer post in-thread. Not even a "bah." post. Seriously.

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:53 am

Notice how NN died by choking on Gillyweed.

Makes me believe rule 9.75 a bit more and PX a bit less...And there do seems to be a lot of doc's...

vote Paradox

.

Xtoxm · Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:12 pm

Adel wrote:which literate person hacked into Xtoxm's account and started posting in this thread?

I'm putting this in my sig...

Xtoxm · Post Post #763 (isolation #117) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:25 am

It didn't yesterday either. 11 alive, 7 to lynch yesterday.

Now 9 alive, 6 to lynch.

Someone must have a double vote again today.

People wanna test it out?

Xtoxm · Post Post #766 (isolation #118) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:32 am

He's on L-3.

And I don't care if he's lynched.

Xtoxm · Post Post #769 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:41 am

shaft.ed wrote:Ben I visit you
at night anything happen?
Nibbler's heart is big

It's looking likely you blocked him.

Xtoxm · Post Post #773 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:30 am

Yeh could be I guess. But in that case what did you do?

Xtoxm · Post Post #776 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:44 am

Oh ofcourse, you're a mystery role.

I don't xyyxz's claim of it though, I think he could still be scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #779 (isolation #122) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:39 am

Exactly why am I so suspected?

I have a kill proven different to the scum...

Xtoxm · Post Post #790 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:41 pm

Gillyweed is form HP.

I said already.

I cannot protect and kill in the same night.

Xtoxm · Post Post #792 (isolation #124) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:57 pm

Scum could NK him then so that doesn't work.

Xtoxm · Post Post #794 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:59 pm

Did Guardian edit rule 9.75?

Why did I think it was scum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #795 (isolation #126) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:59 pm

And PX why is the kill by Gillyweed, which is clearly the scum kill?

Xtoxm · Post Post #796 (isolation #127) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:03 pm

vollkan wrote:
Para wrote: @Volkan, I note that you have been doing mostly interrogation recently, scrutinizing everyone's thoughts, but have largely kept your own opinion to yourself. And looking at your posting record, it's essentially nonexistent(which is no good). Exactly what is your thinking? Don't you think it's about time you voted someone? It seems like you lack any central focus and could easily jump onto any wagon at this point(though you're certainly not the only one). Are you waiting for a wagon to form before you vote?
I've been asking questions for the very reason that, frankly, nobody is leaping out to me as obvious scum.

Since you asked for my opinion, however, I will present a scumdar - to at least show where I am at right now:
As usual: 0% = absolute town, 100% = absolute scum, 50% = no preponderance of town-tells or scumtells.

Cicero
- He has said a lot regarding the mass claim suggestion, and his reasons for opposing it were quite well thought-out. Other than that, there is little else - even interrogative questioning. My guess is that this is probably just a D1 thing. For now, though, he gets a
50%
.

Adel
- Meta, Adel is someone I find immensely difficult to get a read on. I agree with her on Xtoxm being a VI. I do not like her insinuations about Xtoxm not supplying an exit case. She knows he is a VI - so she ought to know that it would be unsurprising for him to leave in a stink and not provide a case.
60%

xyzzy
- His massclaim suggestion is interestingly worded, insofar as he pushes it "at some time". Looks like he may be trying to give himself an out. This is just conjecture, and hence I don't hold this against him, but it is odd nonetheless. Other than that, he does nothing of significance.
50%

Rogueben
- He makes decent attacks against Para throughout the game. Other than that, he is fairly short on words.
45%

Lawrencelot
- He makes vague insinuations of Adel being scummy and NN appearing aggressive town, but doesn't supply reasons. His assumption that massclaim advocacy = scummy seems to be quite simplistic, particularly given that he adopts a neutral position (if you are going to allow it to pass without protest, that's effectively just supporting it without making yourself accountable). Is worried that Xtoxm is dumbtown (a good concern) but then proceeds to confirm his vote after Xtoxm made a joke post. I don't follow his vote for Adel with all the %s about Adel and Xtoxm, and I don't see how it incriminates Adel. Wants to lynch Adel/xyzzy/hasdgfas but then doesn't justify. he later justifies Adel on "vibes" (which is ranked #3 on the
Index of Detested Words
). Ultimately, I see him as declaring opinions without substantiation, with the worst points against him being his vote on Xtoxm and his mugwumping on the massclaim.
60%

hasdgfas
- I don't like his assumption that supporting a massclaim is scummier than suggesting it, and he basically shrugs his shoulders when I ask him to justify it. I like his stance on Xtoxm, however - asking the right questions.
50%

Xtoxm
- To put it simply: VI. He consistently attacks Adel for opposing a mass-claim, despite the fact that he himself was not in favour of one. His abandonment of the game after the fake daykill looks more to me like frustration than any of the nefarious conspiracies that have been suggested. I'm giving him a
55%
. It would be higher, but he is clearly a VI and I want to see how this progresses before I make a definite comment on his alignment. For now, he could be newbtown or newbscum.

Paradoxombie
He also votes Adel for being against massclaiming, and doesn't articulate how this is scummy. Then he justifies this on a sort of tit-for-tat disagreement thing, basically just dodging the question of how Adel's actions are scummy. He then goes on the defnesive and twists this into being attacked for his opinion (when one could say the same thing about Adel). He still hasn't explained HOW it is scummy. He also pushes a mass rolename claim for very optimistic reasons - trying to gild it a bit. Of course, he then goes and claims doctor. His play merits a
70%
in my opinion, but he has claimed, which adds another necessary level to any inquiry about him.

NabakovNabakov
- His reasons for opposing massclaim are good. He also makes a strong attack against Para's stupid "equal but opposite" ideas. Nothing scummy here at all, and he is probably the most protown so far.
40%

shaft.ed
- A lot of his play is just about his double vote. He then develops the Shafted Thesis - which is valid but unnecessarily conjecturing. He then votes Xtxom because town wouldn't leave the game in that way - as with my remarks on Adel, I don't agree. I don't like the fact that he criticises the content level of myself and Nab when, largely, he hasn't been developing enormous cases either.
55%

I hope this shows my thoughts more clearly.

I did not like this post at all.

Xtoxm · Post Post #797 (isolation #128) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:05 pm

Neville has too strong a link with Gillyweed for me to consider letting PX off at this point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #798 (isolation #129) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:06 pm

But in fairness to you I haven't found you at all scummy other then your nameclaim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #801 (isolation #130) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:33 pm

O_o it's the cow...

Xtoxm · Post Post #802 (isolation #131) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:34 pm

Xyyzy who did you target please?

Xtoxm · Post Post #814 (isolation #132) » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:35 am

What Xyyxy says makes snese as tehre are clearly 2 PR's today.

Xyyzy, it looks like your power is anti-town and I think you should none from now...

Xtoxm · Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:57 am

I can see, shaft.

I feel for you.

If I get restriction like that i'd just post a hell of a lot less.

Xtoxm · Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:30 pm

You are driving me insane.

Xtoxm · Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:40 pm

He hammered then used his power to prevent it he's obv town.

Xtoxm · Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:09 am

Shaft cleared Rb...Why are people not likeing PX anymore?

I'd rather lynch hasd or Adel than RB deft.

Xtoxm · Post Post #867 (isolation #137) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:59 am

So why are people becoming less sure PX is scum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #870 (isolation #138) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:12 am

Gillyweed.

Also, starting to get a slight doubt he's also a doc...Why would there be 2 normal doc's?

Xtoxm · Post Post #872 (isolation #139) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:29 am

Ok, so I got a OSV thrown in too...But it's essentialy Doc.

What was your exact claim? I wa sunder the impression you cliamed straight doc.

Xtoxm · Post Post #883 (isolation #140) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:06 pm

Well all 3 of you ain't gonna be town...

Xtoxm · Post Post #915 (isolation #141) » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:00 am

...This is getting boring...And I can't make out half of what Shaft's trying to say. And I think that cicero is pretty much cleared by the fact that Xyyxy seemingly gave Shat his PR, so cicero got his off volkan scum...

Xtoxm · Post Post #917 (isolation #142) » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:04 am

So yesterday we had pikachu, today sandslash...Anyone see the significane in it?

Xtoxm · Post Post #919 (isolation #143) » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:15 am

2 definitively distinct PR's? As in you recieved A PR from 2 diff people?

...That's interesting...So cicero got his from a 3rd place...?

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:10 am

hasdgfas wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:scum would not double
PR me xyzzy is town
Nibbler has firm arms
I find this rather untrue. There are many possibilities for the 2nd PR, and scum double PR'ing you is one that shouldn't be discounted

Yeh but I think it's suffieciently unlikely to the point it can be discarded. I'm with shaft there.

You're entitled to your opinion.

But Xyyxy isn't clear yet, cos we don't know where the 3rd restriction came from. Volkan might have given cicero.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:12 am

Adel wrote:
claimtable
xyzzy: triforce of wisdom, mistery role. Targeted shaft.ed last night, probably gave him PR.
para: neville longbottom, sort of doctor. protected shaft.ed
xtoxm: (napoleon?) dynamite, doctor and osv. Killed vollkan.
Lawrencelot: one-shot governor. Used D1 on Rogueben.
Rogueben: Link, forced vig. Targeted... Para

shafted: triforce of some kind, targeted Rougeben[/area]
can anyone spot a mistake or omission?[/quote]

It's accurate on mine.

Didn't notice that shaft said he mysteryd RB, I guess Shaft could be an RB. Lol..Same abbr..

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:13 am

Just noticed...5/9 have claimed...How about we finish it off?

Xtoxm · Post Post #939 (isolation #147) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:15 am

NN was NKed by the scum, btw!

Xtoxm · Post Post #940 (isolation #148) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:18 am

One of the triforce could well be scum...I'm conviced Shaft is innocent. Could be either of the other 2, if it is one.

I was top on volkan's scum list...And I still think PX is likely scum based on the NK...I think we should lynch him.

After that my top suspicion is Hasd...

Xtoxm · Post Post #941 (isolation #149) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:18 am

Xtoxm wrote:Just noticed...5/9 have claimed...How about we finish it off?

Any opinions on this please?

Xtoxm · Post Post #943 (isolation #150) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:29 am

Gaah, what the hell am I doing

Ofcourse PX was top, not me...Lol. Momentary memory lapse.

With Adel I think the fake vigging to get reaction, which has essentially cleared me, is something only a townie would do...

But you do bring up a good point about PX...Although volkan could ahve been bussing...

Well if we don't lynch PX, i'd like to go for Hasd.

Xtoxm · Post Post #949 (isolation #151) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:10 am

I'm with Adel on that one - We can't assume someone is given information that 4 others are 100% innocent is accurate.

Xtoxm · Post Post #951 (isolation #152) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:31 am

Who "we" find scummiest is rarely unanimous, and if it is that method probably isn't required.

Xtoxm · Post Post #954 (isolation #153) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:14 am

xyzzy wrote:
Adel wrote:
xyzzy wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:
Adel wrote:he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?
I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast
xyzzy, why push for
a massclaim without target?
Nibbler reads real fast
I do not get your
motivation for massclaim
Nibbler has huge arms
Because having a triforce role lets me confirm 3 people, including link.
and there is no way one of those three would be a safeclaim, no way at all.
...Sure, if my role didn't state that there are players with the other 2 triforce roles.

Ok, but a scum could still be one of the triforce roles.

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:48 am

shaft.ed wrote:Triforce of Power
is possessed by evil man
Nibbler has huge balls

Probably why the 3rd hasn't claimed?

Xtoxm · Post Post #959 (isolation #155) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:23 pm

Adel wrote:why on earth would a town-aligned shaft.ed reveal that? that is exactly the kind of information I sit on so I can catch scum.

Yeh but if you sit on it and get NKed the town will never know.

Xtoxm · Post Post #962 (isolation #156) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:13 pm

Guardian wrote:Until school's out (Early May), expect my dedication to mafiascum to suffer, perhaps greatly. Then I'll have little access at all for a week. Then I'll be back in full swing. This mat be detrimental to the game, as flavor is a bit important. I'll do my best to keep this as top MS priority. Please be a little more patient than usual, and if I don't get to a vote count, or flavor notice, for a few pages/for a while after you'd expect me to, this is why.

Make sure to PM me for things requiring immediate attention.

I can't make anything of your flavour.

Xtoxm · Post Post #994 (isolation #157) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:18 am

Haven't been able to get on for a few days, just posting to let everyone know i'm limited access atm. Don't have time to read back anything right now.

Sorry.

Should be back to normal soon

Xtoxm · Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:02 am

Ahh...The double vote relates to the flavour.

As a guess, Sandslashes loafing around randomly changed the owner of the double vote...?

Xtoxm · Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:54 am

How dare you!

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:49 am

I'm still here. I guess i'm ok with an Adel lynch.

unvote vote Adel

.

Xtoxm · Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:45 am

Shall we lynch Adel then?

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:38 am

We don't have long left now...About a day...We need to get a lynch together.

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:54 am

Actually I didn't have a particularly town read on NN.

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:58 am

shaft.ed wrote:Para and Tom both
claimed Doc, you would have hit them
Nibbler has cute ears

Congratulations, you are only the second person to have noticed the link, in the many years i've been using this nick now

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:11 am

unvote

Tbh, after what Adel's just said i'm not so confident of her lynch.

I guess i'll see how it's going tomorrow.

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:54 am

Well, LV being a doc doesn't make sense, he kills people...

Also, this should probably be ignored, but it's something I noticed. LV being scum maes sense, LV being town doens't make sense.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:51 am

Why is lawrence in their???

And Para, it wasn't a "lucky guess" I didn't do it randomly, I thought he was scum.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:52 am

I'll do the same kinda thing...

Hasd
PX
Adel
cicero
Xyyxy

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:53 am

Adel wrote:I can't think of any reason for him to not be there.

I guess the cow could be in there as well.

are going to lynch anyone?

Well he used a OSG on RB.

And i'd hope so.

34.40 is that minutes or hours

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:53 am

Can us 2 lynch anyone?

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 am

unvote vote Xyyxy

If one of the dub votes is one we can lynch.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:56 am

cicero is on the online list

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:00 am

Oh...At both of you, lol...

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:48 am

I hate trying to read this.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:34 am

I often find it hard to explain my reasoning, and here I don't need to.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:37 am

I don't think we'll be able to get an Adel lynch in the time left.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:40 am

Well he used it yesterday to save RB I think that pretty much clears him.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:05 am

Doesn't make sense in what way?

It's not supposed to make sense...

But I don't like the way Adel advocates a Law lynch.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:49 pm

Well, Hasd, Xyyxy has 4 and we have less than a day.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:19 pm

I'll be on tomorrow some hours before the deadline. Probably won't be on at the exact time of the deadline. Apologies for that.

But we really need to be more organised with this...If votes are going the way of anyone on my list, i'll switch.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:20 pm

Although, i'm getting gradually less confident in an Adel lynch.

And yes, I can see a townie making the "Was there any way to avoid this comment". But she does have a reputation.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:33 pm

Well...I'm happy for Xyyxy to be lynched atm...He's still being really queit...And Mystery could be scum...

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:45 pm

Looks like cicero has lost the double vote, for whatever reason..Hasd wanna add your vote on and see if it go's to 4 or 5?

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:23 am

We have about 12 hours. More voting please.

Is it safe to say it's between Adel and Xyyxy at this point?

If so please move your vote to one of them...

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:45 am

Ok...It's 7am GMT I just worked it out the exact tiem of deadline.

On the 16th, that is.

Later than I thought it was...I thought it would be tonight sometime.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:40 am

Oh...3am GMT.

I guess Guardian did say the time until deadline had shortened since his last post.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:20 pm

This extra twilight time he gives us is quite strange.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:23 pm

Hmm, yeh I guess. Just never seen it before in any of the games I been in.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:24 pm

Feel free to continue discussion...

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:28 pm

I've just got home like 20 mins ago.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:40 pm

Well, that only works in a complete 50/50 situation, which is more than extremely rare, I think...

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:27 pm

Hmm. Well I guess there's not a great deal to actually talk about it this time...I guess it is jsut purely conventional. We just need to wait for the result of the lynch...

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:07 am

How about we test that out...Adel, if you target Shaft...

Xtoxm · Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:50 am

Probably cos he's scum, lynched scum has no reason to talk in twilight.

Xtoxm · Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:14 pm

You might have blocked him. I'd go for who you think is scum.

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:55 am

Yeh it does RB...Methinks there's a framer. Remember how yesterday the kill was gillyweed, and PX was town?

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:57 am

But i've just realised i'm pretty sure RB, shaft, and Law are town...

Which only leaves Kison and Adel...

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:58 am

Well I think RB is now clear by seperate kill to scum.

Law saved RB from lynch, so he's clear too...

Shaft, who did you target last night btw?

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:58 am

And yes Kison needs to claim.