569 Adel's Nightmare -- Game Over!

[Porochaz]

vote Dripping Goofball

She stole my watch...

[Porochaz]

OMGUS

vote Dripping Goofball

oh wait...

[Porochaz]

The previous post is wrong... I think either mafia have sent you that or you are mafia.

Fos Roffman

[Porochaz]

unFos Roffman

I still think its mafia speaking to him

[Porochaz]

I UnFoS'ed him there... that means I don't suspect him just now... I was saying out of the 3 people who have dies the person speaking to him was scum

[Porochaz]

Eh? Whats Aborted Elephant got to do with it?

[Porochaz]

I'd just like to mention, about my speaker for the dead role, i can converse with anyone who is dead, via adel to avoid me or them asking or revealing anything inappropriate. As far as i know, and according to Adel and Aborted Elephant, there could be various factions, and each one might not know their own objective, and whether they are scum or not.

Could you explain this more?

agreed

From my role pm, the flavor at the front, and the kills it

seems

clear to me that there are two factions. One which is trying to wake Adel up and the other that is trying to keep her trapped in her nightmare.

The people trying to wake her up are town and the people who are trying to keep her trapped are scum

Night zero ended up seeing two scum and one townie get killed. That's my interpretation. So what am I missing?

Also, Porochaz. I think what you did is read the note from beyond the grave and see something that is "wrong" in it. Then realised you either said to much or were mistaken and ducked back down. Do you have a good townie reason for not telling us what that was? Maybe you should just articulate your thought process for us.

I have a good reason why I believe this note to be fake, I do not want to go into it right now but will later if I need to

[/i]

[Porochaz]

Interesting because I sorta guessed that roffman was town from this:

"A dark shape sits peacefully by the river, whispering. It is the speaker for the dead. "

i agreed with d.g. about this and felt roffman was town passing on scums message it seemed the most likely answer.

[Porochaz]

No. I forgot to include that one because it came in the next post in the morning. Notice how there are 2 and 1... then another 1?

I'm glad that's settled, and we can get back to our regular programming. LYNCH POROCHAZ.

Please explain why you want to lynch me right this very moment...?

[Porochaz]

The towns aim is to wake Adel from her nightmare by not preventing her from waking you are trying to wake her therefore town. It confused the hell out of me at first, damn these double negatives...

[Porochaz]

Mod can we get a clarification on this...

[Porochaz]

I find dripping goofballs certainty that I am scum so early on into the game when there could be multiple reasons why I said what I did to be to quick off the mark, oppurtunistic and overall slightly scummy.

Thats why a few pages into the game, I already want to see her lynched.

[Porochaz]

You are taking what I said a bit to literarly, I was mirroring your post... to show that I feel its wrong of you to be so sure of me being scum after what? a page?

[Porochaz]

What if I had some damning evidence, like being a tracker myself maybe, that proves the message came frm scum hmm?

[Porochaz]

I am yes.

[Porochaz]

Urgh... I wish I hadnt put my foot into this now, your right cicero. I cant honestly see what use me claiming is... The dead person was speaking using Tracker as an example, not what she/he actually is. I was quite confused with this setup to begin with... however what is done is done. I am a tracker, I can track someone each night and find out what they do during that night...

[Porochaz]

For God Sake, how are you so sure!

vote Dripping Goofball

stop being dumb and open your eyes for just a second. See some other possibilities.

I never said Guys you caught me, I deliberetly said it. You had no idea I was the tracker. You quoted my post out of context. I wasnt confused by my role I was confused by the double negatives. If Ive been around for this long, there must be something wrong with me.

Also we all know your voting DG, youdont have to confirm your vote every single post...

[Porochaz]

I chose to track cicero as I have played ina game with him before and his character intrigued me more than disgusted me. He went and drank from the sea of souls, I think that means he did nothing last night but Im not 100%

[Porochaz]

...noone has said I "rock hardcore" before, so I go for the next best thing... Omans cum..

[Porochaz]

better?

[Porochaz]

Well put it this way, he didnt have any human contact last night. He didnt kill anyone. That doesn't clear him however it keeps me from suspecting him too majorly today.

[Porochaz]

Lets Lynch: Dripping Goofball

[Porochaz]

I agree,

vote Occult

[Porochaz]

wow, my brain hurts from text walls.

a few things. First:

read neutral. I'm pretty sure i win with scum or town, probably only losing to SK, so atm, i'm more inclined to a minimum objection, maximum use philosophy that turns me into an indespensable facilitator for both scum and town. Naturally, i'm assuming all people messaging me will pose as town, and currently i don't have enough details beyond a line of semantics to differentiate between them.

So yes, i am including the dead scum in that

, as i do not know who they are. Oh, and btw, i will probably not post who sends me what votes unless they explicitly ask me to.

Can you at least

pretend

to be helping town?

Not particuarly, i don't like telling scum to NK me. If i'm only working for a town benefit, and my role has such an obvious use, i'm pretty sure i'm a goner first night if i'm town only. So neutrality it is for me.

Second a message from Xiao:

Hello! Why has no one paid any attention to two confirmed pro-waking players crying out for QuantumFruit votes? Sparky and I are town. What is this Occult nonsense? Kill the tattoo.

Quote this please.

Also, the dead have spoken

vote: Quantum Fruit

Question is now though... how can we trust you? That last paragraph could be from Xiao. Might not be. you being neutral causes you to be more of a hindrance than a help now...

[Porochaz]

I dont have a problem with you personally Xiao. However I would hope you can understand where I come from... I want to make sure Im not making a wrong desicion and whilst I dont see QF as a bad lynch I need more convincing which is not through roffman whether that be from you, scum or anyone else. As for proving who you are, I dont know... I am still thinking of a way to prove it... however I dont really think there is a clear way...

[Porochaz]

neither do I, but I trust you less.

[Porochaz]

Im still deciding whether to trust you... cicero can you confirm this?

[Porochaz]

I want chicken.

[Porochaz]

Ok, Im convinced, I am almost ready to vote Quantum Fruit. However I need more information on Sparkys role, he suggests it would be advantagous over Guardians role however I am purely leaning over to Guardian because we know what his role is... its ultamitely up to cicero but its probably good we discuss this anyway...

[Porochaz]

Dear Adel/players

I have currently gone through a lot of turmoil in the last few hours and I need a few days to recover. Whilst I dont want to be replaced I will probably not be posting till Monday/Tuesday at the earliest. Im sorry I wouldnt do this unless under the most extreme of circumstances. Sorry

Paul

Adel, if there is a problem with this please PM me.

[Porochaz]

please voting you I have no objections to because I agree with streeflo and cicero. I will be totally up to speed on my games soon, I know its been only a couple of days (thats due to a few contributing factors) but decided the deadlined ones were the ones I should post in now and Ill get to the rest later on in the week.

[Porochaz]

unvote

[Porochaz]

mod can we get a prod on players who havent posted within the alloted non prodding time

[Porochaz]

Occult I guess checking the 72 hour rule... but if roffman could be included it would be useful, although I will ask in again in 24 hours if you say no.

[Porochaz]

I looked through Occults posts and whilst they do make me feel uneasy (but not vote worthy) I couldnt find any hint on the role based information... could either one of you elaborate on that.

[Porochaz]

Looking back at the context of that, I dont see that at all, if anything he's suggesting something about cicero but I dont even think that... I think he's just stating his opinion on my claim...

[Porochaz]

Be gone

occult

. Be

shaft.ed

!

This makes me uncomfortable...

[Porochaz]

erm no... I was just talking about the sentence in reality it had nothing to do with you...

[Porochaz]

Lets try it then

vote Streeflo

[Porochaz]

Ok incidentally I didnt get to track anyone tonight. I will also have to read over, I honestly thought that was me out of the game for good.

[Porochaz]

I am board with this plan

[Porochaz]

This going to be a catch 22 but who revived me?

[Porochaz]

This is going to fail now if cicero is cult. I think out of neccesity we have to

vote cicero

[Porochaz]

I should make myself clear if cicero has a vig ability and is not cult then we can use him and still win, if he is cult and we dont kill him tonight then we face a near impossible struggle.

[Porochaz]

Yep, you revived cicero... could it be possible that you are reviving folk and turning them into cult without you knowing... you have to admit it could be a possibility and its worth exploring before we go ahead and lynch roffman/QF

[Porochaz]

If we dont vote cicero out tonight and he is cult, can we even win?

[Porochaz]

Why not? We can postpone your plan for a day, if we dont do ours now and he is cult then we lose.

[Porochaz]

Yes

[Porochaz]

I apologise for sinking to the bottom of your pit of stupidness but the way I see it we should investigate every possibility we can and this is one of them. If you think its stupid then don't lynch me tomorrow and we'll carry on with your plan but I don't think it's stupid and would like to be clear as we have enough days to do this.

[Porochaz]

unvote

does cicero need the hammer?

[Porochaz]

vote roffman

[Porochaz]

Ok... well up there the big burning ball of light is Rigel. He did nothing last night except burn slowly...

[Porochaz]

Except he is sparky so it is natural for him to be burning...

[Porochaz]

The burning point of light sits above the river, hardly moving

Right once we've failed whilst killing Guardian can we then try The Jester... seems just slightly more likely

vote The Jester

[Porochaz]

Question:Could it be possible we have a mafia Godfather who is shown as town until all are lynched due to our resurectors? Its the only thing I can think of...

[Porochaz]

wake up Adel

[Porochaz]

vote Streeflo

[Porochaz]

Hmmm the PM sounds fishy... I also recieved a PM telling me I was alive after I got revived. I think cicero's post is goodposting

[Porochaz]

Why? Do you disagree with Streeflo or are you unsure about Guardian/Cicero?

[Porochaz]

Im still working out how the god of death can die in the first place...

[Porochaz]

Id like to know if there is anything at all behind Guardians hunch or if its just out of the blue?

[Porochaz]

I think I want to cry

[Porochaz]

Role PM


Role: You are the dark child.

Win Condition: You do win if I wake up before the morning of the Eight day.

Alignment: You not prevent me from waking.

Night move: Each night PM me the name of one other player. You will shadow that player and see everything they do and everything that someone does to them that night. They will not know that you are tracking and watching them, because you are the Dark Child.

Once the Night 1 deadline has expired, or I have received night moves from all players who have one, I will post an opening scene and open the game thread.

The Night 1 deadline is March 9th sometime after 0001 GMT.

click here to go to the game thread

Incidentally its been the hottest day of the year and have been drowning myself in lemonade... a little useless fact for you...

[Porochaz]

I wake from my dream-within-a-dream

what do people make of this?

[Porochaz]

Kill cicero just to annoy him further... no we need a proper plan... something thats not going to make me cry profusely if its wrong

[Porochaz]

I want you to know I am changing my sig back now

[Porochaz]

well at least it wasnt your 6666 post.

[Porochaz]

Im town Im drunk and I currently think it illogical of me to be scum ithout someone else being scum in which case we would of lost...

[Porochaz]

I think voting Sparky is the best option

[Porochaz]

I think Sparkys more scum than the rest of us simply because of the way Adel has made him float over the river, I feel it suggests the last spark of life in her dream. I always forget who did what but if the same person revived both me and Guardian (I think it was you) then we'd both be scum and this game would already have been lost...

[Porochaz]

I am also away for 2 days (back Tues evening) I wont vote Jester until then however I think its the best course of action.

[Porochaz]

Sparky

is

alive.
The game is not over.

This is reason one. This quote suggests you are not meant to be alive. However I am willing to let that one go because it's ooc and I may be taking the wrong end of the stick.

But I also find it strange that Adel makes a point of saying you are a source of light and that your above the river when the rest of us are below...

[Porochaz]

Dont get me wrong Im not convinced Guardian is town but I see it more than Sparky... however as we only have one day left Im going for what I believe is the most likely possibility which I am currently rethinking but doubt will change then I will post, I dont see any need to rush this as we have still over a week. I guess you will do your reread in that time as well.

[Porochaz]

Whilst I am still looking over you, and have just realised Id better get a damn move on I dont think that tells us much, just you were dead and now your alive TADA!!! The last part Im not sure about but don't personally think its important.

[Porochaz]

Ok Im going to

vote Jester

, my case was going ti cime and still will if Adel hasnt closed this thread tomorrow evening but otherwise thats what Im doing

[Porochaz]

Ok I read over Jester/Rigel/Adels posts: Suggesting mass death, what cicero said, Rigels lack of posting(I know he was dead for a while) the fact that Adel keeps mentioning that he is above the river whilst everyone else is on the banks... although the more I looked into that the less I felt it was anything, the post where Adel says:
"Sparky

is

alive
I still am prevented from waking"

or something to that effect. Although the fact that he hasn't been lynched or NK'ed by anyone yet due to him being dead N0 is the thing that I feel he is most worthy of the lynch.

Then Cicero should shoot me or Guardian, I suggest Guardian(obviously) but thats up to Cicero.

[Porochaz]

I read your N1 on Aborted Elephant. But when day one started you were dead. That is not an equivalent position to Porochaz who died mid-game at the hands of the scum.

We never have sorted out how there were so many kills on night zero and so few thereafter.

Porochaz, I highly doubt Adel is going to give alignment hints in her flavor text.

Here's all I know: I am not scum.

There is one guy whose super-power seems to be to light up everyone's night action. We dont know if he would illuminate nightkills but this seems like an odd power to give to a townie without telling him what it would do. It also seems that word on what Sparky does has been quite inconsistent. The early game inference was that he needed to be coy about it. Later, that he didn't know what it was, and along the way, that he would kill himself.

Then there are two trackers. One of these trackers can only track at the cost of being tracked himself.

The other tracker doesn't have that problem.

Town also has two resurrectors one of whom doubles as a vig and can fuck up the first resurrector.

And a guy that can still post when dead.

Neutral "speaker for the dead role" suggests two factions.

Aborted elephant inferred to speaker three factions.

Scum so far have had a corrupt voting "godfather".

Did Shaft.ed even have a real power? I forget. I know what he said Hamas rabbit did but it turned out he could really just nightkill.

Which tracker would be more likely to be scum? would/could both be town?

What other thoughts and inferences do you all draw from that sloppy mess of facts above. Am I missing anything?

Is Jester's illumination power a very powerful scumside tool that could only be used by scum if they managed to get Jester resurrected? A one time, all at once, power role illuminator?

Oh I know, I thought I said I probably took it out of context. At least I thought I did. Also did sparky ever provide a role PM?

[Porochaz]

EBWOP: He did, however I feel its kinda vague...

[Porochaz]

sarnath'd

[Porochaz]

Ive had a busy day today sorry... you'll notice I posted in my newbie and one gd and that was it before I had to go... I think there is... if you look back there is posts where both me and Guardian tracked each other. There's another post when everything was illuminated as I "watched in horror" at you killing DGB. Please, I don't object to you killing me because its only up to you, but please dont be stupid enough to kill me because I wasnt able to reply.

[Porochaz]

And cicero ressurected me too...

[Porochaz]

beyond this sudden stage of lynch poro because I say! I havent had any real reason to suspect him... I just didnt find him scummy... Im quite sure if Adel made a setup with two resurrectors then she can put two trackers in there as well...

Also if your happy in the pants Id be getting worried...

[Porochaz]

yay! Why are you confused?

[Porochaz]

I would appreciate now, Im away to fall asleep... really

[Porochaz]

Ok well... well done on killing her cicero... even if she was town

[Porochaz]

ETA: Thanks Adel, it was a really fun game. More comments later...

[Porochaz]

So cicero is this your last game on scum? You kinda suggested it earlier...

[Porochaz]

Well no, cause DGB wasnt scum herself... we didnt actually know you were scum it was just lucky we did the right thing.

[Porochaz]

I suppose now Im finished with this game I should change my sig... and lose the chance to be in a courtroom... I'll do it in the morning... also I dont know why people have a problem... the last night could have gone either way... even I wasnt sure I was 100% town thats why I told Cicero to lynch who he thinks... he could have just as easily lynched me...