Mini 429: Planar Chaos Mafia- Finally over (thanks ABR!)

[Quagmire]

This game so far is like a split personality

CPE/shea have page one

everybody else owns page two

the mod doesn't count, because he wouldn't let me have "Shitbuster" in that one upick game

vote: thestatusquo

why don't you try dayvigging me, sucka -- i know you won't!

[Quagmire]

Vote: AniX

.

Scum.

oh, wait

anix is in this game?

unvote; vote anix

[Quagmire]

why are we not voting anix

town or not, he needs to be removed from this game somehow

if i was mafia, i would be killing him tonight no matter what

[Quagmire]

NFC is dead for now. I re-applied back to nan, and as of now, i'm waiting to hear from him.

AniX is much better of a lynch target than Ecto.

We NEED TO KILL ANIX.

[Quagmire]

There's so much hostility in this thread.

Let's just push all of that at AniX, and then we can lynch him.

[Quagmire]

all of these posts are a bunch of "tl;dr"

i'm pushing anix because i want to

[Quagmire]

I'm entertaining the idea that Quagmire may be a Jester. He's been pushing his random vote senselessly WAY past the time that everyone else has moved on. And just look at his last post.

Or he just wants to get rid of Anix. Anix can be annoying sometimes

Very close; the only think I'd change in that sentence is "sometimes".

[Quagmire]

think? I meant "thing"

[Quagmire]

Problem with Stuffy Doll is the indestructible part. Im not sure Quagmire's play is one of a jester either. Still, I'd like to hear why other than "he wants to" for his vote.

unvote

vote Quagmire

there is no other reason

[Quagmire]

I believe discussion last focused on The Prof. Quag and his refusal to play the game.

i believe that i'm playing the game, good sir

now we need to kill you in order to benefit the town

[Quagmire]

I believe discussion last focused on The Prof. Quag and his refusal to play the game.

i believe that i'm playing the game, good sir

now we need to kill you in order to benefit the town

What benefit will the town derive from an Anix lynch? It seems not to matter to you whether he is town or scum, only that the lynch will somehow benefit the town.

let's establish a couple of important principles first.

1) Each player has an equal chance of being mafia, just because roles are given out randomly.
2) AniX is by far the most worthless and annoying person in this game.

since each person has an equal chance to be mafia, killing off the biggest moron will provide the town the greatest happiness simply because the town doesn't have to deal with that person anymore. and hey, what do you know? he has the same chance of being mafia as anyone else!

anix is the play today.

[Quagmire]

Well, put it this way, it's better to lynch than to not lynch. Quag

is

right about equality of chance. The thing I don't get is why you call AniX the most worthless player in the game. Sure, he and Ectomancer have been arguing, but StatusQuo was ranting and raving for a good two pages as well. Then again, I've never played with half of you all, so I wouldn't know from outside experience.

that's because shea is cool and knows what he's talking about. i don't know about his ranting and raving, because all of his posts have been way too long for me to read or pay attention to.

anix is worthless. you'll find out if you keep him in this game.

think of it this way: how much more information can we possibly find on day one?

[Quagmire]

Right now, at best I could OMGUS AniX. I understand your reasoning, however that final sentence makes you a better play. It sounds like you are calling for a short end to the day by just lynching AniX and getting it out of the way. A short day one is not better for town.

that is a good point. from the looks of it, though, we're on a quick path to a lengthy day, even (especially, now that my voting anix is the discussion point at the moment) considering my voting of anix.

Quag, you are clearly pushing a random vote long past the time random voting ended, with the most generic reasoning to ever hit the mafia street (who all could be mafia, so lets lynch someone for my own personal reasons). Its quite clear that you just aren't interested in playing the game, so you go "Well, AniX annoys me because I used to be friends with him but I didn't grow up and he did, so I feel left out in the rain" and proceed to random vote me and then push the vote long past its expiration date, and you push it with one second "because I said so" statements to boot. But I'll play your game, since your game is basically the only thing we have thus far:Would you please elaborate on how exactly you perceive I'll be, as you say, "worthless" to the town? Because right now, one of us is wasting the town's talk time on a grudge vote, and that person isn't me.

well, what have you participated so far that hasn't already been said?

and also, this isn't a random vote and i wouldn't consider it generic reasoning. generic reasoning is voting for somebody based off of some speculation at actions. voting for me would be generic reasoning; "well, quagmire said x, so i think he's mafia."

[Quagmire]

well, what have you participated so far that hasn't already been said?

and also, this isn't a random vote and i wouldn't consider it generic reasoning. generic reasoning is voting for somebody based off of some speculation at actions. voting for me would be generic reasoning; "well, quagmire said x, so i think he's mafia."

What is there to say that hasn't been already said on day 1, especially a day 1 where we have had no night kill the night before. What I have done, and you have not, is actually tried to work with what information we have had to try to get to a point, whereas you go "I don't like AniX. vote vote vote.", and any evidence that isn't related to me is totally ignored by you. Someone could claim mafia, and since it doesn't fit the vote you "want" to make, its trash to you.

So I ask you: What have you done that wasn't counterproductive to the town getting scum? I think derailing conversation with your admitted "I want to" vote is worse than anything Aeyln (who I believe is our town's token lurker, with all of two posts and thus could be considered the most "worthless" under your guidelines) could do by not being here at all.

i am just as much working with the information as you. this is because THERE IS NO INFORMATION. there also will not be any information on a game starting with day one, so rest assured that any "information" that you think you're using is purely speculation and nothing more. keep that in mind.

and, as a side note, if someone claimed mafia, i would vote for them. however, that's not going to happen -- neither is any sure (or reasonably sure) day one vote. so, let's play this by statistics.

i have done nothing counterproductive to the town. tell me what i have done that's counterproductive? with that said, i can't tell you that i've done anything productive for the town because nothing has happened yet -- you can say the same thing.

except you're anix. and i want to lynch you.

[Quagmire]

Writing off Day 1 because we don't "know" anything is a rubbish strategy. I'll give you that we have no solid information to go on, but let's say we listen to you, all vote AniX, and go to Night. Pure odds heavily favor him being town. Assuming he is, scum kill another townie, and we start D2.

What now? What do we know in D2 that we didn't know in D1, except that a couple of people (possibly even power roles) are out of the game? That information does us no good, expect to narrow down the selection for that day.

We need discussion. We need to see voting patterns established. We need to get

everyone

to talk so that we have some way of applying the information we get when we do end D1.

And for the record, I would much rather have AniX here right now than you. He's at least trying to get discussion going. You're trying to end D1 after all we've done is fight about what people are called.

who said i'm trying to write off discussion? i believe that i've created plenty of discussion on why i think that we should lynch anix -- it's not like i could possibly expect everyone to blindly follow what i think. that will never happen in any mafia game on day one. ever.

[Quagmire]

Unvote

Vote : Quagmire

Rant rage against AniX, not contributing, and refuses to scum-hunt.

i've contributed plenty; much more than many of our other cohorts. however, you're voting for me because you don't like my logic.

and i'll be happy to scumhunt once more information is available.

[Quagmire]

:goodposting:

i second that statement, however, "kison" needs to be replaced with, "anix".

[Quagmire]

:goodposting:

i second that statement, however, "kison" needs to be replaced with, "anix" and "are" needs to be replaced with, "aren't".

You wanna know why people are voting Anix?

fixed.

[Quagmire]

I think we should vote Quag for poor word usage. Its about as valid and relevant to the game as any logic he has brought to the game at all.

I don't know if lynching Quag is the best answer, because we all know that being a asswipe who is ruining the game experience for others doesn't really translate to being mafia. I guess the best we could hope for is Quagmire to get fed up with our lack of support for his stupidity and ask to be replaced, thereby giving his potential townie role an actual player rather than a literal record that is damaged. But barring that, I would suggest we all just ignore him and focus on something else. It can be related to the Quag fallout, since thats basically all we got going for us, but voting Quag is going to get us shit nowhere at this point.

if you were to read my logic, in no way am i trying to ruin the game experience of others. there's no useful actual information that's going to be thrown out there on day one; the best thing that anyone is going to come up with is speculation and theories.

by the way, i'm pretty sure that you're evil right now anyway, regardless of whether or not you think my theory is valid. you're completely downplaying all of my logic and acting as if you're above it, when everybody else who hasn't agreed with me has at least challenged me and put pressure on me (see: kison).

on that note, though -- what should we focus on, anix? have you had anything useful to participate so far? the answer, of course, is a resounding

no

; the only contributions you've made is an occasional chime-in of condescending mantra over how my logic is stupid and worthless, combined with a total lack of display of emotion and defense of me otherwise. this is duly noted, because if you pursued any alternatives, you would be totally viewed as scummy -- an emotional, OMGUS response would be a sign of weakness and nerves.

i disagree, then, with the people who say that i've contributed less than anix. i have contributed way more to the discussion and day then lurker anix has -- considering all he's been doing is being totally inoffensive to everyone and defending everyone who he gets a chance to.

happy, guys? kison? i'm scumhunting and speculating.

[Quagmire]

i agree that tsq is evil and needs to be lynched, but anix is by far the better play today.

[Quagmire]

Vote: yamahako

yamahako is a stupid lynch

anix is the only worthwhile lynch.

[Quagmire]

Cody, we're on page 9. Could you grow up, please?

i am. i just said that anix is our play today.

[Quagmire]

Cody, we're on page 9. Could you grow up, please?

i am. i just said that anix is our play today.

If Anix did not exist, who would your play be today?

this question is about as irrelevant as it gets.

[Quagmire]

Yama. How does that tell function at all on d1?

how doesn't it?

[Quagmire]

Hm...Well, I want some more people to chime in. I personally think theres a LOT of information and I have some juicy things.

juicy =/= intelligent

see: my thoughts on anix

[Quagmire]

Hm...Well, I want some more people to chime in. I personally think theres a LOT of information and I have some juicy things.

juicy =/= intelligent

see: my thoughts on anix

Those have been neither juicy nor intelligent.

my reasons of why he's scum are intelligent.

[Quagmire]

i can almost guarantee that he has "scumtells" from looking at the day so far. there's no way that he can actually condemn anyone. he's doing nothing more than pulling a yamahako.

of course, even if he did have something, i wouldn't care, because that's not the quality lynch target today.

[Quagmire]

Hey all,

Sorry for the lack of posting of late, I've only had a few minutes at a time to get online.

I should be able to devote a good hour or so to this tomorrow and will be able to participate properly soon enough.

promises unkept.

right now, scumgroup is anix, thestatusquo, and aelyn.

[Quagmire]

Um, guys?

The deadline's coming up really soon, and I don't really think that lynching Yama is the way to go.

[Quagmire]

a lot of these posts recently have been tl;dr

let's just lynch anix instead.

[Quagmire]

yeah so let's lynch anix and get this over with

[Quagmire]

Lowell is the person who replaced BHNY.

Also, Yama, I don't know how I can possibly defend myself against an accusation you refuse to name. Is your plan to just randomly accuse people for doing scummy things that become "obvious" to you on a read-through, yet never mention what became obvious to anyone else but yourself? That might possibly be the worst plan in mafia history, short of claiming mafia day 1 first post erroneously (or truthfully, both are pretty bad plans). It screws the town out of information, prevents the mafia from getting lynched (if your random "obvious" read-through selection process happened to land on a scum through no skill of your own) since no one has ever been convinced to lynch someone based on the argument of "He is clearly scum, there is a post that proves it, but I will never ever tell the town what post".

Please, if you have "proof" against anyone, I ask that you show it sooner rather than later because we don't have time for games when the deadline is coming up fast, you claim to have information on one of the potential lynches, and you offer this potential lynch no chance to respond to any of the accusations against him because you refuse to identify what the accusations are. The lynch of me can be summed up with Quag being juvenile and you having proof that you can't show anyone. Or at the very least, try to explain why you can't reveal the posts you find suspect. Holding information from the town is NOT a town-friendly action, and if you aren't doing town-friendly actions I am going to assume you are not town-friendly, and vote accordingly.

anix, i have valid reasons against you. throwing them away as if they're nothing is even scummier.

[Quagmire]

AFAICT, your reasoning is basically "AniX does not help the town, therefore it is a good thing to lynch him. He also has as much chance to be scum as anyone else, so lynching him today is ok."

If I'm missing something, please direct me to it, but otherwise, it sure doesn't fly with me.

Here you go:

I think we should vote Quag for poor word usage. Its about as valid and relevant to the game as any logic he has brought to the game at all.

I don't know if lynching Quag is the best answer, because we all know that being a asswipe who is ruining the game experience for others doesn't really translate to being mafia. I guess the best we could hope for is Quagmire to get fed up with our lack of support for his stupidity and ask to be replaced, thereby giving his potential townie role an actual player rather than a literal record that is damaged. But barring that, I would suggest we all just ignore him and focus on something else. It can be related to the Quag fallout, since thats basically all we got going for us, but voting Quag is going to get us shit nowhere at this point.

if you were to read my logic, in no way am i trying to ruin the game experience of others. there's no useful actual information that's going to be thrown out there on day one; the best thing that anyone is going to come up with is speculation and theories.

by the way, i'm pretty sure that you're evil right now anyway, regardless of whether or not you think my theory is valid. you're completely downplaying all of my logic and acting as if you're above it, when everybody else who hasn't agreed with me has at least challenged me and put pressure on me (see: kison).

on that note, though -- what should we focus on, anix? have you had anything useful to participate so far? the answer, of course, is a resounding

no

; the only contributions you've made is an occasional chime-in of condescending mantra over how my logic is stupid and worthless, combined with a total lack of display of emotion and defense of me otherwise. this is duly noted, because if you pursued any alternatives, you would be totally viewed as scummy -- an emotional, OMGUS response would be a sign of weakness and nerves.

i disagree, then, with the people who say that i've contributed less than anix. i have contributed way more to the discussion and day then lurker anix has -- considering all he's been doing is being totally inoffensive to everyone and defending everyone who he gets a chance to.

happy, guys? kison? i'm scumhunting and speculating.

[Quagmire]

we should have lynched anix

[Quagmire]

vote: anix

as a result of yesterday.

as for looking at other people: yes, i'll do that sometime soon -- i don't see the day ending with a quicklynch, to be honest -- so i'll take a look at other people and come up with cases on them.

anix is still the play today, however. no matter the case on anyone else (and i still think that i have one on anix), anix is still the play.

so, let me do a reread to find stuff on anyone else. i'm also interested in that TSQ has to say on this roleblocking thing.

[Quagmire]

how is anix the play as a result of yesterday?

read my posts yesterday.

mostly, i voted for anix with some sound reasoning that, on a game that started in the day, it'd be best to vote for the people that i like the least because each person has the same chance of being scum at that point and we have no information to work on. every "scumtell" is essentially nothing but taking stabs in the dark.

anix proceeds to play this off as me being a dumbass. to his credit, some posts were me being a dumbass, but my point was still there and valid.

i then proceed to point out that anix playing it off as nothing is a scumtell as it is an attempt to not attract attention. read back somewhere on day one for the full monty.

[Quagmire]

Quag: Are you refusing to answer my earlier question, or did you not notice it? Just in case, here it is again:

If AniX had been killed Yesterday, who would be the play Today?

I answered it.

as for looking at other people: yes, i'll do that sometime soon -- i don't see the day ending with a quicklynch, to be honest -- so i'll take a look at other people and come up with cases on them.

This should be done in the next day or two.

[Quagmire]

dood, you realize it was a day start, right?

Damn, I thought that I had posted my post already. I guess the grey screen of death got in my way.

Not only am I not a cop, but I couldn't have an investigation on AniX yesterday in the first place. This was part of my reasoning of voting him, anyways.

But, to answer your question, yes, I was blocked last night.

[Quagmire]

Vote Quag

are you an SK or Godfather?

Neither. Why?

[Quagmire]

This is exactly why all the role discussion was a bad idea. We know next to nothing, and now everyone's confused and unsure of what to do. I'm tired of this stagnancy.

Vote: Quagmire

. We need a bandwagon.

I now know who my second suspect is right behind AniX. You haven't commited to anything at all this game -- only "thinking out loud" logic BS -- and when you're using actual logic, it's all been spouted already by other people in a conspicuous attempt to join the most attractive bandwagon. I note that before me, your only two votes have been for Yamahako and DeanWinchester -- both whom, at the time, had the third vote placed upon them. Every single one of your votes so far has been a vote that has placed someone as the leading vote-getter. This does not bode well for our townsmanship, methinks.

However, Yama, you still need to explain to me (and everyone else, for that matter) why I'm either a godfather or SK.

[Quagmire]

NK immune with multiple flavors - and a convenient lie on your part would make sense of last night. I've never really seen a role (though I could conceive of one) that would roleblock everyone that targets a particular person. Though, that would mean 25% of people targeted you last night... and we had a kill, so that's 33% of the town with a night action - oh and you said you were roleblocked as well, which insinuated you had a night action so that would be 42% of the game. Oh and our name investigator died last night (50% of the game), and we had one vanilla townie who died yesterday. That would mean 58% of the game in some way was either you, targeting you, or dead. And that at LEAST 50% of the game has a night ability.

I don't understand this. Other than AniX, who has targeted me? How do you reason that at least 50% of the game has a night ability (which isn't absurd in the first place)?

Or else, you're NK immune with some trippy enchantery flavor. The most common NK immune roles are a GF or an SK. Add to that the fact that you're not a cop (yeah I'm dumb sometimes), and your driving like obsession yesterday (almost game halting) to lynch AniX.

I was nightkilled (or, attempted to be nightkilled)? How do you know?

[Quagmire]

My vote on quag had reasoning. I liked Yama's reasoning, this game is incredibly stagnant and a good bandwaggon always helps, Plus I'm mad at quag.

I still don't know where yama gets his statistics from. How does he know that I was attempted to be nightkilled? All that I've seen so far is that both AniX and Yama both targeted me last night, and were blocked. Unless Yama has a killing role...

P.S. to Dean: Why are you mad at me?

[Quagmire]

P.P.S. CPE and Shea, yama has a point. Get over yourselves.

[Quagmire]

here's who we should be voting for:

1. anix
2. cavane

[Quagmire]

actually, screw it.

unvote, vote: cavane

you're so badly scum, i don't know if i'll be able to take it anymore.

[Quagmire]

This is exactly why all the role discussion was a bad idea. We know next to nothing, and now everyone's confused and unsure of what to do. I'm tired of this stagnancy.

Vote: Quagmire

. We need a bandwagon.

I now know who my second suspect is right behind AniX. You haven't commited to anything at all this game -- only "thinking out loud" logic BS -- and when you're using actual logic, it's all been spouted already by other people in a conspicuous attempt to join the most attractive bandwagon. I note that before me, your only two votes have been for Yamahako and DeanWinchester -- both whom, at the time, had the third vote placed upon them. Every single one of your votes so far has been a vote that has placed someone as the leading vote-getter. This does not bode well for our townsmanship, methinks.

DEAN: THere's your reasoning right there. Do a quick reread and look for Cavane posts, and you'll see what I mean.

[Quagmire]

ALSO, the fact that he's totally ignored this means he's even moreso a scumbag.

[Quagmire]

nocmen: a sudden labyrinth appeared before me, preventing me from going anywhere or doing anything.

The Quag wagon failed to get anything going other than actually getting him to vote someone other than AniX. (Of which I am personally very proud.) Therefore, I will Unvote Quagmire and reconsider my position, since the replacement is among us. I'm thinking about renewing my case on Dean. Between the things I pointed out Yesterday and Yama's trap, I'm not feeling good about him.

Cavane, you haven't pointed out any new or useful scumhunts, just ones that other people have said. Combine that with your total reluctance to vote for anybody that

isn't

a wagon, I really, really, really think that you're scum.

I could vote for dean, too...but Cavane is solid right now.

[Quagmire]

so it looks like our scum group is cavane, dean, and anix...

[Quagmire]

by the way, cavane, i had no idea that you were voting for me when i've posted. there is no omgus in my vote.

i also have been scumhunting this entire game -- there's just been nobody that's tipped my radar enough (well, until now, of course) that has forced me to change my vote from the most annoying player to the one whom i think is scum the most.

[Quagmire]

Perhaps Ectomancer just means that I have "scumhunting evidence", because that's really all that I have.

Sorry, I must've forgotten about the vote. I apparently knew it when I first voted for you, so I should have known about it, because it was partly the reason that I voted for you.

The material really has nothing to do with OMGUS, though, if you read over it.

[Quagmire]

The post where I showed up just to vote cavane was an attempt just to get things going.

@Quag: I would like you to explain how me, anix, and cavane are scum together.

Well, I've already explained how AniX and Cavane are scum, but you've been recklessly bandwagoning the entire game and people have brought up good cases against you.

I'm still very sure about Cavane's scumitude, though.

[Quagmire]

Ok im totally lost at why poeple are attacking me. I have explained my votes and pointed at how the cavane vote was to things going.

Hey ecto: When you make a vote with no reasoing it's a pretty good bet you are going to get called on it and therefore cause discussion. What part of that do you not understand?

Dean, no need to be so defensive -- you know that's a scumtell.

I'm hardly even attacking you; you're currently third on my "scumdar pecking order". Cavane is still the most definite scum.

[Quagmire]

:teach:

Unvote, Vote Creampuffeater

Contribute or be lynched. This game is moving too slowly to accept any of this kind of crap.

I think we should worry about cpe later. Let's get the most likely mafioso *now*, and we can nab lurkers later.

[Quagmire]

I refuse to post any more until the mod comes back.

[Quagmire]

Am I the only one who sees blatant scum in Cavane?

[Quagmire]

can we lynch cavane yet

[Quagmire]

I will be pretty much gone until Sunday, meaning that my vote will be staying on Cavane for some time.

[Quagmire]

I'm here. I have no idea what's going on. Therefore, I advocate a mass claim.

Not yet. Not a good idea on day two.

Lynching Cavane is the best option. Can we get a claim out of him, please?!

[Quagmire]

replace dean

because we should be lynching cavane

[Quagmire]

/sigh so we wait some more :-/ Good going guys.

this is why we should be lynching cavane

[Quagmire]

/sigh so we wait some more :-/ Good going guys.

this is why we should be lynching cavane

Dean or CPE would be a better play

Unvote, Vote Cavane

I almost don't care anymore guys :-/ but I won't make you replace me.

i agree with you that dean is scummy, however, i'm more confident in cavane.

cpe blindly follows what i've been saying today, so i'll give him a free pass (for now).

[Quagmire]

I'm still here, and I'm stil voting for Cavane.

We can lynch Dean tomorrow.

[Quagmire]

LET'S JUST LYNCH CAVANE INSTEAD

THEN WE CAN LYNCH DEAN

THEN WE CAN LYNCH ANIX

[Quagmire]

Near enough, I hope. Claim out of cavane?

[Quagmire]

Claim please?

[Quagmire]

I told you Cavane was scum. Or did I?

No, I did.

And my next stop is Dean.

[Quagmire]

VOTE DEAN

[Quagmire]

Vote:Albert

for not paying attention to who he was replacing, sort of hinting that he hasnt read.

o shiet.

Unvote

.

That was weird......can you explain why you think I'm scummy ?

a) You replaced a person that we were all planning on lynching anyway.

b) You voted for yourself, meaning that you haven't paid any attention to the game. Also means that you were quick on the bandwagon without knowing anything in terms of what's going on, something a townsperson does

not

do.

c) I remember this one thread in which you were really, really annoying.

d) Also, Cocks!

e) This will end the lettered list.

[Quagmire]

WAIT!

I'm a doctor dammit.

If there's any counterclaims, I'm coming right back for you.

Unvote.

Next up is Anix. Remember?

Vote: AniX

[Quagmire]

I gain a semblance of happiness knowing that you're going to die tonight, regardless. Now, begone.

To the others, every single time I have refused to claim in every game on this site, I was town. Just look at my wiki. I do this play all the time. Anyway.

Yipes, Albert. Must you consistently make such stupid plays? Alarmingly, you seem to want to oust the doctor so that He can play with his role totally revealed. i don't understand what exactly would make you think that that's a good play And that yamahako is a moron. why in the hell would you claim to be the fucking doctor when you then said that you're not?

because you're evil, evil Krack-O-jacka scum? lynch all liars, i always say.

next time, TELL THE TRUTH about your role.

VOTE ALBERT

seriously. how is that at all stupid on yamahako's part to counterclaim your stupid claim?

[Quagmire]

ALSO YOU'RE NOT HELPING THE FUCKING TOWN IF YOU DON'T CLAIM RIGHT NOW.

Yamahako, if he's a doctor like he says he is, CAN FUCKING PROTECT YOU TONIGHT if you're this big, ultimatum power role like you claim to be (without making any commitment, obviously).

stop being retarded

[Quagmire]

Also, repeatively saying you are happy that the doctor is going to get night-killed? Really not the best of pro-town moves, for future reference.

This is a wonderful point, surprisingly

[Quagmire]

OK, so with 6 alive, we're probably in an LYLO situation.

Right now I'm still looking at CPE and Nocmen, although I think that we're late enough in the game where a mass role claim will be significant.

[Quagmire]

hi

haha

anyways, I'd prefer to wait to claim until after Ectomancer and Lowell do as I have relevant information that may confirm or incriminate them based on what they do and I'd prefer not to reveal that until afterwards, as if they are scum, they could probably create a claim based on my information.

So, without further adieu...

[Quagmire]

I blocked Quag last night. Someone still died. He's partially confirmed town.

OK. Lowell?

[Quagmire]

I am High Arcanist, the Townie Mazecaster.

Basically, I send the mod a name of a player who I want to be immune to all night actions (and to lose their own).

Night 1 I used this on

Quagmire

. According to my role PM, Quag should be able to confirm this.

Last night I tried, AND FAILED, to use this power (Maze Magics) on

Ecto

.

I confirm this, and I'm the reason you failed last night.

[Quagmire]

Also AniX what exactly are you?

[Quagmire]

I'm Intet, the Dreamer, and I'm the color cop.

First night: I target Quag and get set up the maze. No go with the color getting.

Second night: Nocmen has a strong connection with nature and ruled by his emotions, which is basically flavor-text, I believe, leading up to me learning he is red-green. Potential serial killer.

Third Night: Ecto yearns for learning things, which then leads me to believe he is monoblue.

That leads up to Day 4, which is right now.

OK, I'm inhigh confidence that it's Nocmen and CPE. Here's why:

I'm a redirector. If someone targets me, then I can choose where that target goes (if I want it to go anywhere).

I can pseudo-confirm this because I breadcrumbed that yamahako was telling the truth yesterday in him claiming that he protected me; there should be an odd post that I'm too lazy to link to right now where if you put all of the capital letters together, it spells "YAMAHAKO TELLS THE TRUTH" right after he claimed that he protected me, in which he did. this was mostly to confirm that he did this in case he came under fire if albert b. rampage was the doctor (like he claimed at the time).

last night, ecto roleblocked me. i redirected this roleblock to lowell, to try and test if he's scum. someone still died last night, so that eliminated him from making the kill, which is why i'm pretty confident that he's telling the truth.

one mafioso is dead, leaving lurking, nonparticipating CPE and nocmen, who hasn't done anything to imply innocence either, mind you.

here's my plan: we lynch nocmen today, and ecto, you can roleblock CPE tomorrow night, and if there's no kill tomorrow, then we lynch CPE and win!

[Quagmire]

I gain a semblance of happiness knowing that you're going to die tonight, regardless. Now, begone.

To the others, every single time I have refused to claim in every game on this site, I was town. Just look at my wiki. I do this play all the time. Anyway.

Yipes, Albert. Must you consistently make such stupid plays? Alarmingly, you seem to want to oust the doctor so that He can play with his role totally revealed. i don't understand what exactly would make you think that that's a good play And that yamahako is a moron. why in the hell would you claim to be the fucking doctor when you then said that you're not?

because you're evil, evil Krack-O-jacka scum? lynch all liars, i always say.

next time, TELL THE TRUTH about your role.

VOTE ALBERT

seriously. how is that at all stupid on yamahako's part to counterclaim your stupid claim?

this is the post that i'm referencing from yesterday

[Quagmire]

I am Vensers Sliver, and I get abilities if there are other slivers (Which there arent), So I am a plain old vanilla.

vote cpe

[Quagmire]

It's Ecto and Quagmire that it comes down to then.

Uhh, no, unless there's a mafia roleblocker.

I think it's you, Nocmen, although I'm not really understanding what happened last night that makes your logic pin it down to us.

[Quagmire]

ecto who did you block last night?

[Quagmire]

I gave my block to you to redirect. I was also caught in a maze, so I dont know that you got it.

No, I was never targeted by you...

why were you caught in a maze?

[Quagmire]

I cast my maze on ecto. That means he was unable to do any action (or be killed) last night.

This is what I did to nocmen the night before, which is why I thought he was scum. I guess he must have been TARGETED by the scum instead.

Again, I'll fall for my own result and believe that ecto is the last remaining scum. But I won't vote yet...

That's what I'm thinking, too, although it could be anix, and here's why:

Although the mod informed me last night that he was confronting me with a cop ability, AniX came to me last night. I redirected his cop ability to ectomancer. So that means that he targeted ectomancer last night...

Here's what I'm thinking:
-I think it's ectomancer, personally, because mafia roleblockers aren't too uncommon, and it'd be pretty balanced in this game with only three mafia and no SK...also, he's been blocked and there was no kill last night.
-We lynch him today. If we don't win, then I think we have about a 50% chance of losing the game if the mafia successfully get the kill off, although I think it'd be slightly higher due to what I think: If anyone tried to kill me, I'd just deflect it away. If Lowell targets me, then I can deflect Lowell's ability somewhere else, protecting two people tomorrow night while still keep the mafia guessing, meaning that it's probably higher than 50% that nobody dies tomorrow night. The next day I'd personally say that we'd try to lynch lowell, but I'll have to see what happens as events warrant. I mean, I'm pretty sure that we'll win if we kill ectomancer.

[Quagmire]

Quag, why did you redirect Anix's investigation to me, when clearly he was looking for confirmation on you? You specifically did not allow him that information when you could have. If he wanted to investigate me, he could have chosen me himself, so I'm confused at your decision, and also wary of it.

In retrospect I probably should have just let him investigate me, but he's just a color cop so you can't garner any reasonably good information out of that. I chose to redirect it to you because:

a) I wasn't sure if he investigated you yet, but most importantly,
b) I wanted to prove my claimed ability to him directly

If anix wants to investigate me tonight, then that's fine and i'll definitely allow him to investigate me.

Since it's three to lynch and nobody's voted yet, I'm going to

vote ectomancer

until someone comes up with something better.

[Quagmire]

Wow, you really think that a Goon, a roleblocker and a rolechooser (whatever that is) is balanced by

two

untargetable townies (Quag just redirects), 2 flavors of cop, Nocmen's strongman role and a Doc/Roleblocker?

Alrighty then...

I think so. Not to mention the plethora of things that point to you that we just can't ignore.

[Quagmire]

Anybody home?

[Quagmire]

We can't win with Quag as scum unless we lynch him today. That's the bottom line. I realize that

he

sees nothing wrong with the balance of the setup if I were scum, but that's a rather stacked deck for town. Point of fact is, I don't think scum could even win at all with that setup. 2 untargetable townies plus all the rest? The mods on this site are better at balancing games than that, and PWS is no n00b.

I don't know what most of these roles do. Also, I have no idea if my ability has anything to do with kills -- I haven't been targeted with a kill at all this game.

So, I think AniX should hammer Ecto, because of what's been mentioned earlier.

Lowell, be tricky. Keep the scum off balance if possible by masking your choice.

[Quagmire]

Quag = scum = we lose today by lynching me.

Ecto = scum = we lose nothing by lynching Quag.

Despite needing to use equations for you here, I am town. It's a bad move to lynch me today and leave the 2nd claimed untargetable townie alive. Seriously, the first one was already confirmed town. How would scum possibly win with those 2 in the game unless they were morons?

How would we lose today if you were lynched, actually are the roleblocker, and I'm scum? Lowell's targeting me, so if I were to kill, I'd get blocked.

Ecto I'm very sure now that you're our last mafia. If Anix would post (or get replaced, we could finish the game.

[Quagmire]

I'd like to continue.

[Quagmire]

K. Everyone send me your roles, and we'll get this going. I'm going to confirm the roles with Nick, so no one try to pull any fast ones. Lets get this game over with.

Yes, let's!

[Quagmire]

Who hasn't sent their role? Shea, keep us updated.

[Quagmire]

Honestly, let's just finish this game please.

[Quagmire]

$10 says you don't.

I'll put $10 on this as well.

[Quagmire]

Quagmire, just so you know. If you're scum you're going to lose this game.

AniX, just so you know. If you're scum you're going to win.

To be completely honest with you, this game's been dead for so long, I couldn't tell you what I am. I've totally forgotten.

[Quagmire]

I will be passing this game on to ABR.

AniX and Lowell should just check in: let's lynch someone at random right now and see what he is.

[Quagmire]

You know ABR, when your role PM says, "This kill cannot be prevented," you should assume that it can't be prevented.

[Quagmire]

PS: I had a way of getting out of your "trap" Lowell but I decided that I should just say "fuck it" and use an unblockable kill that I guess isn't unblockable.

[Quagmire]

i thought i was for sure going to win this game.

[Quagmire]

I picked quag instead of AniX at the end for the very very WIFOMy reason that quag seemed more in tune with what was happening. I figured an SK/scum would care more than a townie. How's THAT for logic?????

Which is to say, I had literally no idea what was going on at any time during this game. Fun, though.

i could have sat back and redirected your choice to anix, therefore blocking him. I was an SK with an added (albeit, sweet) ability.