Mini 550: KSFV: Game Over

[Unity]

I think if the town lynches the Jester then the jester wins and everyone else loses.

Vote: armlx

because it kinda sounds like exlax and anybody that stuffed up must be hiding something! LOL.

[Unity]

FOS: vIQleS

and bits and bits

'Cuz he's just about the ugliest darn klingon I've ever seen!

[Unity]

Well, not that my .02 matters, but when I saw his role-claims, I thought he was just trying to stir up conversation on a brand-new thread. In my experience games can sometimes start off slow, and sometimes never pick up speed. Looks like he did a good job of it too. I guess he could be the jester, but it seems like he's being too obvious about it.

[Unity]

First, what's a VI?

Second, as far as a Ryan/GS scumpair, I think I'd lean more towards a Ryan/ SensFan pair. Coming out of the gate bickering hardcore, that way if either one gets strung up the other is exonerated.

[Unity]

OK call me a noob. What's an RVS?

[Unity]

@ Mod: Can we get a vote count?

[Unity]

Unvote

Vote GreasySpot

Just a weee bit of reason please?

GS's first game has a jester in it... He (GS) is town, but it's still ongoing... If that helps anyone...

Forgive me for losing track here. Are you refering to this game as GS's first game? Or are you aware of another game in which GS is playing, cuz while he's probably not scum, we really haven't established that yet.

[Unity]

Greasy Spot,

In a re-read, here's my latest thought:

With exception of you, we're all gamblers today. Joubert voting for you triggered a game mechanics event.

Care to comment with another post?

Huh. Maybe. I thought he was saying that I had guessed his tactic, then there's that part where he said "He can not get his money until tomorrow", so you might be on to something there.

[Unity]

huge

fOs: ANYONE VOTING gREASY SPOT

With my role and the obviously wacky role of greasy spot, I'm half tempted to ask for a massclaim. This game might be broken.

Sorry, I can't ever back a mass claim in a non-open game ever again unless there's a very very good reason behind it.

I can't even imagine what would ensue if we did.

[Unity]

I think being vigged means being killed by a vigilante. What's a PR?

[Unity]

Cool, I've never encountered a PR. It kinda makes sense though. He talks only in riddles. That's gotta be part of it.

OK, here's my logic, help me out guys. Why would the mod put some kind of riddle - PR on someone? I mean, he could go one of 3 ways right? Town, Scum, or Jester.

In you guys experience with a jester, is it easy for the jester to get the win? 'Cuz it seems like that would be a good reason to put such a ridiculous PR on someone. I mean it just screams 'wacky'

Course he could be faking it. It could be that all this is just to keep us from voting him. But then that just seems too stupid for a scum to do. I mean of course the cop is going to investigate him right off, ya know?

On a side note, and you guys probably already figured this out, Ever single one of GS' posts is a role-claim. Further, his first few all imply that he is somehow restricted in his interaction with the game.

[Unity]

OMG. I know your role!!

[Unity]

GS knows all the roles, but can't vote or write sensibly!!!!

@ GS: Post something about a carnival if Ryan or Sensfan is scum. Post something about a Prison if neither is scum. Post something about a the Buddha if I'm off the mark!

[Unity]

I don't think so, it just seems to me that some of his role claims seem to indicate that he has special knowledge... "I hold all the cards" "I'm the know it all"

Going back and re-reading them all I guess there aren't that many posts indicating it. *Shruggs shoulders*

It just popped in my head. What say you GS?

[Unity]

I've been thinking he might also have PR that says someone needs to vote or FOS for him to post.

FOS: Grasy Spot

[Unity]

Yeah, but I asked GS to post in regards to wether ryan and sensfan were or were not scum, and he avoided the whole thing. I don't think he's got special info after all, though he might have an ability to get some...

[Unity]

sorry, the above was in reference to viddles #149

[Unity]

I could put a fourth vote on GS, but I think we're barking up the wrong tree here. I'm really leaning towards Either Ryan or Sensfan or both. I'm going to do a read through and see what I can find. In the mean time in case I haven't already done so, I'm removing my random vote since we're in serious mdoe here.

Unvote

[Unity]

Well, I'm not sure how Lloyd came by his list of suggested roles (in associating them to certain players) only a few of the ones he suggested were cases where GS posted the claim immediately following that person's post. But in response I will say that none of the ones he posted resembles my role, so I don't think you're onto anything Lloyd.

Second, I second Viddles

FOS: Anyone supporting a massclaim

Maybe I'm just a noob, but I don't see how it would benefit anyone but the scumbags.

Third, what the h%&l was that giant post of numbers from Lloyd all about??

Lastly, after re-reading the initial posts I'll list the top of my Scum-o-meter:

Sensfan:70% - A non random vote on page 2 with no explanation until pressed. Then hard bickering with Ryan.

I did think Ryan was more suspicious for awhile, but IMO his scummy-ness is tied into GS. If GS turns up scum, Ryan's going down (trying to instill fear of the jester in the town), but again I think the GS thing just isn't happening, so:

Ryan and GS: 45%
aioqwe: 40%

Basically, assuming Sensfan and Ryan are not both scum (and I'm not ruling that out) I think it unlikely that a pair of townies would launch into such heated arguments when they both based many of their motives on less than solid assumptions.

So:

Vote: SensFan

[Unity]

That's true, but not before several other people came out with the same reason to suspect Ryan. Why not just come right out with it? Like I said, until the last few pages I was really eyeing Ryan, like everyone else has been, but now that GS is looking less like scum, the whole reason for suspecting Ryan is loosing crediblity with me, and seeing as how you've been pushing so hard on him, it looks to me like you've begun you're attack on him using a very convenient reason (even more convenient because you waited for someone else to suggest it).

[Unity]

And now he (GS) completely dodges the issue! And as much as I want to know the results of an investigation on GS, I don't want to let the scumbags know who our investigator is. Da&%it!

[Unity]

Edit post #168 BWODP:

Excuse me, thinktank and Viddles had not yet suggested that ryan was involved with GS, but they had begun to discuss the possibility that GS was scum hiding behind the crown of a jester, and who better to paint as the scum partner but the one who suggested there could be a jester in the first place?

[Unity]

So you don't think Ryan is scum?

[Unity]

Unvote

I'm sorry guys, I've got a lot of personal sh*t going on. I guess I wasn't as thorough as I should have been in my read through.

* Sensfan drops a little on Unity's Scum-o-meter

I'll get back with you in a bit.

[Unity]

Well, I agree with the gnome, but for a different reason. If you count the mod, we're 13. The reason I don't think that's it is because none of the roles resembles my role.

[Unity]

So how does the cult thing work? All I've ever seen is town and scum.

[Unity]

Seems like an impossible to win game. I mean even if you lynched a cultie every day you could never kill them all.

[Unity]

So how would we be able to establish the identity of the cult leader through a mass-claim?

[Unity]

EBWODP: I mean wouldn't he just lie about his identity?

[Unity]

well, the more I think about it I don't think pushing for a mass claim is scummy, I think it's just downright useless. I mean wouldn't everyone just claim vanilla?

[Unity]

unless this is similar to worst role evar, im fucking scared.

If this is similar to the Worst Role Evar game, then we should all just shoot ourselves in the foot

I was just reading that game and one of the role claims went like this:

Ooh is it my turn to claim now?

OK, listen up for the worst role evar. I'm the unpopular cult leader. I get to recruit people into a cult at night, but nobody wants to be in a cult with me in it, so I am excluded. I win with the town.

The reason I wanted to claim last is cause I wanted to hear whether Nox would mention anything about being recruited. She is the only living cult member. Unfortunately, i kinda believe her claim so not sure whether lynching her is a good idea with 2 (?) mafia still out there.

I about fell out of my chair when I read that!

[Unity]

What I don't understand is why GS is completely dodging all attempts at communication. The only post that resembles a response is the bartender claim. He's been asked many times for other clues with ways of responding in his posts and he's dodged them all. I mean the mod would have had to give him specific instructions not to respond to our posts. It seems a little far fetched to me.

I think he might be faking it.

[Unity]

Seriously, GS, don't post unless you are trying to participate in the conversation or have to for role reasons. if you are trying to participate, make it more evident. There's no reason to keep doing what more or less amounts to spam.

Well, in his defense, his latest role claim seems to imply that the mod is keeping close tabs on him. This is of course assuming that we believe him.

[Unity]

Well I certainly hope this goes somewhere, 'cuz right now I really feel like the scum are sitting back laughing while we run around in circles like chickens with our heads cut off!

[Unity]

Oh OK. And I suppose GS is like the cult high priest or something.

[Unity]

OK, well maybe we're getting somewhere. His post contains an odd number of words and he's capitalized some of the odd letters.

SF wrote: GS, if you are giving us information with your posts, your next post should contain anything but an even number of words.

[Unity]

Got another interesting anagram with the same letters:

CNUSVRPEOO -> NERVOUS COP

I went to an anagram site and got:

Uncover Ops
No Coverups

among other, but I like yours the best.

[Unity]

Get off your high horse RC.

And as fun as another RVS would be,

Vote: Ryan

Cuz He's really defensive/offensive and I think we need to see what happens when we put him under the spotlight.

[Unity]

Hey guys. I'm sorry I've been away. I came down with the flu so bad I've been bedridden since sunday morning. Briefly reading through the past few days I'm a little more comfortable with my vote on Ryan. Even after he and sensfan quit bickering there has still seemed to be this undertone of hostility between those two. Could be just conflicting personalities, but I think one of them is covering up. After the jester thing and all else I feel comfortable enough with my vote to leave it on, especially considering a no-lynch deadline.

I'm still pretty bad, but I think I can give you guys a post a day until I'm better.

[Unity]

I drag my sorry but in here and you guys have been busy!

You know I'm new to this mafia thing, but all the fuss Ryan is throwing is dragging out a lot of good conversation. Even if he does turn up town (doubtful) he's helped me identify some suspects.

I don't think it's been a waste.

I'm confident with my vote.

[Unity]

Uh pete, I'm a guy.

And BAHHH!!!

Mod edit: fixed. Also, no bah posts.