Mini 1780 - camn's apartment 2 - Finale

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the flavor was really great

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Do you want a list of times that I was called correct for the wrong reasons?
I know it's easier to imply that I did something wrong that discredits me than to give me credit for my accomplishments, which would require you to y'know accept that maybe I did something well at some point.
but that's fine.

i don't care what people said of you other places

this game you called me scum because you thought my YGS-SK interaction sounded fake; that was genuine.
you also said i was faking psychiatrist because alignment-changing is bastard; that was wrong.

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fuck your idea that the interaction was fake.

i thought that YGS was an SK. i pushed them because they were an SK.
you said this didn't happen. you were wrong.

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tell yourself that your scumgame was flawless.

it wasn't. i didn't say it was.

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i said that you saying that me feeling that i caught the SK was fake was an incorrect assumption because i did think i caught the SK

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sure you can catch me as scum
i don't doubt that
i never said that

i said that the reasons you expressed in thread were wrong

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They don't.
But mid game alignment changes are bastard.
Reck got away with it in Star Wars because his role was a little iffy and the potential for the change was known.
A SK becoming VT with no prior knowledge of it: absolutely bastard.

Camn, would a psychiatrist healing an SK and making them a VT be considered bastard?

Camn is not going to give a solid answer to that because she doesn't want to help town that won't help themselves.

this is a reason you wanted to vote me.
camn confirmed that this was wrong.

I don't believe that Nacho would have failed to submit a night action N2 either.

this was correct

I hate teh way he exaggerated and yelled to the crowd when he outed.

this was wrong

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but the way you're trying to amp up the possibility of an SK feels wrong to me.

this was wrong

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So are you or are you not acknowledging that maybe the fact that you were scum vs town could have tells that I picked up that you can't figure out?

simple yes or no question.

yes. absolutely. i completely believe that you can catch me as scum for reasons that i can't figure out.

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the post that you're quoting is you calling me scum for incorrect setup reasons. i don't think that you know more about my meta than i do; i could be wrong, yeah, but exaggeration isn't a scumtell of mine.

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And no, it's not a meta thing. it's an overarching scumtell.
it's a scumtell for everyone.

besides me because I play as scum when I'm town.

i didn't recognize that this was your perspective

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then don't jump to conclusions about what I was or was not doing please.

i didn't do this though

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How should I interpret that 'caught for the wrong reasons' comment?

doesn't really matter

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i think you're great

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I read the dead thread!

I was very happy when all the townies we killed said that we would probably win and find it amusing that the one who believed in us the least was a dead scumpartner
I felt really dumb when Davesto died and Prohawk was tracked - YGS said that he was shooting Davesto or Fate so having Davesto make the kill over Prohawk was derp derp derp, but am pleasantly surprised with how all of our other night actions turned out; I didn't think that I'd be able to get Nahdia lynched ever and was pretty sure she would immediately become a thorn in our side while Antihero would have probably shot down some of the assumptions about the setup that profited us so much; we probably wouldn't have been able to win if either of those were alive.

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I really really liked the level of power in this game and I liked how town's power was centered around taking scum by surprise while scum's power was centered around being able to recover - 7 trackers, while not the worst thing in the world when you know about them, are fucking crippling when you don't know about them - it wasn't a reasonable expectation to expect 7 trackers when two claim (and knowing about a lot of power does nothing for you), but guessing that we had the factional ninja, poison was not a conclusion town was going to get to easily. A scumteam playing well early would also be forced to stay together and mislynch threats instead of just shoot them, which was also something I liked about the setup.

I think that you took a big risk making this setup and it turned out great and I had fun - thank you! Although if scum ended up having the JOAT instead of the factional abilities I would have strangled the ever loving shit out of you both. <3

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I think the factional abilities over a JOAT was a good call, having the ninja and poison on one member would of made this waaay too swingy. Really cool setup though IMO, I probably would have gotten really confused had I been alive and setup spec'd to hell. That's a lesson I'll take vicariously from this. GG!

hi! I thought you played really well!

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Also, why did Tire target the two of us?

I targeted YGS because there's no other acceptable action for a Psychiatrist who has outed a claimed vig. I targeted you when I did because I figured that targeting the person who I found the scummiest as Psychiatrist is probably what I would do if town.

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Interesting. I have this meta where every time I'm town and new players come across me - they almost instantly scumread me. I guess confidence, consistency, critical thinking, patience, and being truthful will get us nowhere these days.

i don't think that me or kagami would have scumread you if we were actually town FWIW; I just thought that you didn't show your work in some of your thought processes and ended up relying too heavily on others to guide you through the game and that made you an easy mislynch, hence my intermittent pushing you all game