Mini 1780 - camn's apartment 2 - Finale

[RadiantCowbells]

Performer, do you think I'm too dumb to submit a night action on replacing in?

[RadiantCowbells]

My track is 14, haven't read the game.

I'll explain what that means when the relevant things around it have happened.

[RadiantCowbells]

What's your point Tire?

Do you think he was onto something and that he was right about me not submitting ak ill?
Do you think it's suspicious and that he's scum because he let go of the line of the questioning?

Where are you going with that?

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and can we not lynch someone before I'm even caught up?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can someone compile all the claims and night actions so I can figure out sort of what's going on?

[RadiantCowbells]

Aight I tracked Performer to Aiden.

14 meant it was in the 14th line of 1299 that he said something referencing that fact.

[RadiantCowbells]

NO ONE IS LYNCHING FUCKING ANYONE UNTIL I'M CAUGHT UP.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sort prodge type thing.

Will not catch up on this thing tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

till tomorrow*

Hi there!

[RadiantCowbells]

I was supposed to be in this game from the get go but I had 0 desire to play with Pisskop.

I didn't realize you were in this game until after I'd replaced.

[RadiantCowbells]

So the one dude was tracked to nowhere while a kill happened correct?

[RadiantCowbells]

No I mean the night before.

[RadiantCowbells]

Would be awesome if someone could chart all the claimed night actions and results.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I mean the ninja discussion.

There was a kill that night correct?

[RadiantCowbells]

2 deaths N1 so serial killer was discussed.

Has anyone taken credit for hte kill that I've missed?

[RadiantCowbells]

I skimmed the whole game so I can get a feel for what's going on.

I'll do a full read for alignment soon.

OK. 1-shot?

[RadiantCowbells]

What if it's like an odd or even night ninja?

So they only get ninja night kills on certain nights?

[RadiantCowbells]

soon = tomorrow for the record.

[RadiantCowbells]

Tire, have you targeted YGS?

[RadiantCowbells]

Has

1) Tire targeted YGS
and
2) Any investigatives confirmed that they are not ascetic?

[RadiantCowbells]

Even IF he's SK though there's still probably another main faction mafia.

It's a little iffy.

[RadiantCowbells]

What exactly does your Psychiatrist thing do?
Do you turn VT, take away nightkill, what?

We've targeted YGS.
I very highly doubt that they are an ascetic SK based on the whole one-shot vig thing.

ok.

[RadiantCowbells]

So if we verify that they're not ascetic they're pretty conftown.

Maybe we should NL today?

[RadiantCowbells]

Verifies your alignment and brings us back to odds and possible tracker guilty.

[RadiantCowbells]

I just realized Camn never sent me any of my night results.

Hold on.

[RadiantCowbells]

Doesn't Psychiatrist confirm that there's no SK in the game anyway?

Camn explicitly labelled the game non-bastard.

[RadiantCowbells]

GUh what.

[RadiantCowbells]

Right.

Fate was the one tracked to nowhere on an even night when people died.

What were all the N2 results?

[RadiantCowbells]

THinking about the odds of the game beign 2/1/9

[RadiantCowbells]

mid-game alignment changes

non-bastard

There are either no Serial Killers or any serial killers are ascetic.
end story.

[RadiantCowbells]

Or Tiresias is a cheeky lying buttface.
But that's a discussion for another time.

[RadiantCowbells]

They don't.
But mid game alignment changes are bastard.
Reck got away with it in Star Wars because his role was a little iffy and the potential for the change was known.
A SK becoming VT with no prior knowledge of it: absolutely bastard.

Camn, would a psychiatrist healing an SK and making them a VT be considered bastard?

Camn is not going to give a solid answer to that because she doesn't want to help town that won't help themselves.

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact I want to vote Tire atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

But hmm.

[RadiantCowbells]

Thsi is not an opinion this is fact.
Mid game alignment changes are bastard. end story. game over.

[RadiantCowbells]

But the question is why is he both a ninja and visiting you on Night 1.

[RadiantCowbells]

Guessing no one got an N3 track onto Tire?

[RadiantCowbells]

But Reck had a mid game alignment change in a game that wasn't bastard.

It was known from the get go and in the role PM.

It's entirely different from an SK randomly changing alignments.

VOTE: Tiresias

This is last scum.

*drops mic*

[RadiantCowbells]

Because they didn't night kill you.
They probably are a psychiatrist.

They're just scum aligned.

[RadiantCowbells]

Psychiatrist is not bastard as long as no serial killers exist.

I don't believe that Nacho would have failed to submit a night action N2 either.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, scum visitor.

I hate teh way he exaggerated and yelled to the crowd when he outed.

it's like

OMG YOU KNOW HOW I KNOW
LIKE EVERYONE LOOK AT ME LOOK HOW TOWNY I AM ITS EXCITING GUYS.

Really fake.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, maybe?
Odd night psychiatrist, even night ninja?

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but the way you're trying to amp up the possibility of an SK feels wrong to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Even night ninja still makes more sense than anything else I can come up with.

I considered Asceticizer but no one has seen asceticizing shenanigans, correct?

[RadiantCowbells]

If we put 2 trackers on you and you targeted we could mostly confirm your slot, I think.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fate makes a ton of sense as even night ninja for the same reasons you do.

[RadiantCowbells]

I should be the most confirmed tracker in the game based on previous night actions?

Stop this silliness.

[RadiantCowbells]

us N2 (nowhere [claimed before anyone else did])

[RadiantCowbells]

For the Tiresias track.

Not for any other silliness.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yawn.

There's not 2 scum trackers. That would make this setup awfully hard for scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why would he needs other powers? o.o

[RadiantCowbells]

Aiden's also a decent choice because no target last night and they have no night actions that confirm they're tracker status.

I really have to read at some point before I get invested in arguing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Better to lynch Fate because we can't confirm or deny anything regarding his claim.

Firebringer hydra can be tracked and potentially cleared.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't lynch until I read though.

Everything I'm going on right now is entirely based on night actions, I have no actual reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

...so you're saying we should lynch you instead?

And if you're going to make him the most obvious ninja ever, why not make him a full ninja?

Because it would entirely defeat the point of teh setup.

[RadiantCowbells]

I refuse to post from here on out until I've read.

Don't hammer or L-1 anyone.

[RadiantCowbells]

^tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Takign time off.

Will finish reading when Ig et back.

[RadiantCowbells]

I owe this some effort.

[RadiantCowbells]

In retrospect

Replace me

[RadiantCowbells]

you know why. cya!

[RadiantCowbells]

But Reck had a mid game alignment change in a game that wasn't bastard.

It was known from the get go and in the role PM.

It's entirely different from an SK randomly changing alignments.

VOTE: Tiresias

This is last scum.

*drops mic*

Perf obvtown too.

gg though!

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think camn or katsuki are winning any awards for maturity nor not engaging in shitty behaviour.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you want a list of times that I was called correct for the wrong reasons?
I know it's easier to imply that I did something wrong that discredits me than to give me credit for my accomplishments, which would require you to y'know accept that maybe I did something well at some point.
but that's fine.

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you want a list of times that I was called correct for the wrong reasons?
I know it's easier to imply that I did something wrong that discredits me than to give me credit for my accomplishments, which would require you to y'know accept that maybe I did something well at some point.
but that's fine.

i don't care what people said of you other places

this game you called me scum because you thought my YGS-SK interaction sounded fake; that was genuine.
you also said i was faking psychiatrist because alignment-changing is bastard; that was wrong.

fuck your idea that the interaction was fake.
everyone says that my reads are fake because you don't understand why you're posting differently at the level that i understand why you're posting differently.

do you get that? anything I scumhunt for is not something that you'll ever understand because you're not me.

[RadiantCowbells]

tell yourself that your scumgame was flawless.
I was lynched once as scum in 2 years and I'm fully fucking aware that my scumgame is flawed as fuck.
someone managed to pull together a spreadsheet that predicts my alignment with 95% accuracy based on a totally simple heuristic.

fact of the matter is that you have no idea what you're doing wrong if you don't understand why your YGS reaction was scummy as ***.

i thought that YGS was an SK. i pushed them because they were an SK.
you said this didn't happen. you were wrong.

doesn't matter you wouldn't have done it like you did it as town.
you made a gigantic show of things.

you would not have done that like you did as town. take it or leave it. learn or don't.
I will always catch you in that situation.

[RadiantCowbells]

So are you or are you not acknowledging that maybe the fact that you were scum vs town could have tells that I picked up that you can't figure out?

[RadiantCowbells]

I never said you feeling you caught the SK was fake.

I said your reaction was fake.

These are totally different things.

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So are you or are you not acknowledging that maybe the fact that you were scum vs town could have tells that I picked up that you can't figure out?

simple yes or no question.

[RadiantCowbells]

Think that I'm wrong.
you won't improve, you won't understand why I caught you, you won't learn from my scumhunting techniques.
You can continue to be a person that thinks 'Oh caught for the wrong reasons!' and who never understands any of my catches.

I stand by 1426 forever.

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the post that you're quoting is you calling me scum for incorrect setup reasons. i don't think that you know more about my meta than i do; i could be wrong, yeah, but exaggeration isn't a scumtell of mine.

Think what you want to believe.

[RadiantCowbells]

And no, it's not a meta thing. it's an overarching scumtell.
it's a scumtell for everyone.

besides me because I play as scum when I'm town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Understand this:
to reach a satisfactory resolution in my eyes to discussion will involve you making concessions that you will never make.
this is done. bye.

[RadiantCowbells]

hey, guess what I hate playing mafia too!

We might get along if you weren't, y'know, you.

[RadiantCowbells]

/shrug
I'm who I am because I recognize my mistakes.
I have little patience for those who won't, don't, or can't.

Maybe performer and Marquis will share that *** with you that they're supposed to be eating

Is that supposed to be an insult?

[RadiantCowbells]

Are you claiming that my 'mistake' was getting into this argument postgame?

I don't see it the same way. Maybe I'm the one who is right here?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like that should be my sig.

Maybe I'm the one who is right here?

Because people never see it that way no matter how many games I was the one who was right where everyone fought me every step of the way.

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And no, it's not a meta thing. it's an overarching scumtell.
it's a scumtell for everyone.

besides me because I play as scum when I'm town.

i didn't recognize that this was your perspective

then don't jump to conclusions about what I was or was not doing please.
I'm not saying I'm better than everyone
but I'm certainly saying that my solutions are different than everyones.

even people who have hydrad with me several times, with the sole exception of Frozen Angel, don't understand how my reads owrk.

[RadiantCowbells]

You don't have the *** self awareness to realize the players on this site see you as insufferable, whiny, and arrogant even to the point you're thinking of making that your sig.

I don't care though.
I care that I'm consistently right.
I'm here to make wins not friends.

i didn't do this though

How should I interpret that 'caught for the wrong reasons' comment?

[RadiantCowbells]

EVERYONE OUT OF YHE WAY



COW IS GOD


COW GAMEPLAY IS INFALLIBLE

there's no way you believe the shit you type, man, fuck off

Kuribo please stop posting here.
I don't want to be responsible for getting you banned.

[RadiantCowbells]

How should I interpret that 'caught for the wrong reasons' comment?

doesn't really matter

I've seen it too many times and I basically interpret it as 'I'm totally not self aware and I think that RC clearly didn't have a legit scumread on me'
It's a sort of trigger for me.

[RadiantCowbells]

EVERYONE OUT OF YHE WAY



COW IS GOD


COW GAMEPLAY IS INFALLIBLE

there's no way you believe the shit you type, man, fuck off

Kuribo please stop posting here.
I don't want to be responsible for getting you banned.

I wasn't even *** talking to you
And you just come straight up with you don't like me


So fuck you too pal, go fallin a hole somewhere.

Call it what you want. I'm not happy with you.
I'd prefer you relegate whatever you want to say to PMs so you don't risk getting into issues for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I thought the point of you speaking in PMs was because I wasn't going to report you and I'd prefer no one did.

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That is sort of what I requested, and yeah.