Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Ranger]

I know I'm technically supposed to wait, but chamber's vote was on the lead wagon, and that's not a good place to leave a vote when catching up.
UNVOTE: Minsc and Boo

I won't be doing anything else until Ether officially announces it.

[Ranger]

Now that I'm officially in the game:

How do you feel about replacing into a scum slot?

Whether I enjoy replacing into a scum slot is entirely dependent on what I replace

into

. If I replace into a game where my scumbuddies are obvious and/or the town has the advantage role-wise, I'm probably going to feel terrible! If I replace into a game where I have a competent scumbuddy who can carry the game after my inevitable not-actually-a-mislynch, probably pretty good! I'd love to tell you where I'd be this game, but it's unfortunately not applicable; chamber was town.

ranger.
please be town.

No need to worry. I'm town, I'll get caught up and prove it.

I'm gonna sheep RC though cuz RC tends to be correct... when town.
VOTE: Minsc L-1

I mean, this is pretty true.

Minsc and Boo has a fair chance of being scum based off of the wagon composition and RC being the counterwagon. (I'll let you know once I do my reading. It could be TvT, SvS, or TvS, don't actually know, but TvS is not at all the least likely of them.) I might even move back (or even hammer) when I'm done catching up. But...I actually should get caught up! I get the impression chamber

might

have been a mislynch candidate, but half this playerlist has reason to policy-nightkill me if I haven't "done the damage" so to speak by reading the thread.

So, no lynching yet, m'kay? I need to read the game.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee}
{Ircher, Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

One.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia}
{Ircher, Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Two.

[Ranger]

Any pushes you need a doublevote for?

Not yet, but I thought Davsto-Xkfyu interactions looked awfully a lot like two scum talking to each other, which is why they're down there together in my reads list with Minsc and Boo, whose entrance also sent similar signals.

I'll let you know when I get caught up.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher}
{Maruchan}
{Fire Assassin}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Four.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Maruchan}
{Ircher}
{Fire Assassin}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Six.

Gorkington is god.
I'm not even joking.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Maruchan, Ircher}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Fire Assassin}

Seven.

[Ranger]

no im not. shhh.
i get awful later on.

Then go back to your early game, silly. :P

It was good.

Really, really good. You were pointing out a lot of the things that I'm noticing as I read through.

[Ranger]

Like anything these two do, in almost all their games, overshadows everything anyone else does.
Kind of bored of it.

If you're who I have a sneaking suspicion you might be.

Then I'm sorry.

You probably being an alt and all. Didn't realize you'd have an issue with me coming in.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Maruchan, Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Eight.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Maruchan, Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Iecerint, Aristophanes}
{Roshar}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Nine.

It should be noted my Fire Assassin read is dependent on me being correct on Fire Assassin's identity. The posting style and early-game content (not to mention, attitude towards RC and I both replacing in) does support it, and if it's right then the posting was null-at-worst, probably town. But if it's wrong, no such justification and it'd look bad.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Iecerint, Aristophanes, Maruchan}
{Roshar}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

Ten.

[Ranger]

If you didn't want me to meta you, then you shouldn't have said you had an issue with me, silly. :P

Most people don't take issue with me, so there's only a select few people you

could

be given that, and when you gave me that information, combined with the tonality in your posting, that gave me a guess as to your identity.

[Ranger]

I find your Roshar scumread disturbing D:

Not a scumread. That was the nullline.

I realize that means I'm probably wrong on a townread, but the read I have is the read I have.

[Ranger]

11.

I am, 100%, going to be on Minsc and Boo the moment I'm caught up.

And I will never move my vote from there.

They're scum. Pure and simple.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes, Maruchan}
{Roshar}
{Iecerint}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo}

14.

[Ranger]

Iece is making himself incredibly obvious scum come page 15 for what it's worth.

[Ranger]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes, Maruchan, Roshar}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Iecerint}

18, btw.

[Ranger]

I'm like this as town more often than as scum but can fake it as scum for short periods.

This is a surprisingly accurate descriptor for

my

play, too!

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes}
{Maruchan, Roshar}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Iecerint}

[Ranger]

her* You're like the 5th person now. /sigh

You get used to it after a while, sista'.

It's gotten to the point where I'm actually surprised to see people who haven't played with me get my gender right.

[Ranger]

3 ActionDan (Iecerint, Gorkington, Ircher)
3 Fire Assassin (Aristophanes, Minsc and Boo, Not_Mafia)
3 Minsc and Boo (Fire Assassin, Xkfyu, chamber)

And then you get:

VOTE: AD
Team Mafia called. They want their AD back.

UNVOTE: Minsc and Boo
VOTE: ActionDan
Gonna apply as much pressure to this slot as possible for when Dan's replacement arrives.

These. I'm feeling pretty confident about my scumteam.

Also, RC is totally town. Even from his first post you can see it.

[Ranger]

Townlean: {NM, AD, Davsto}
Null
Scummy: {Xkfyu}

Why were you scumreading me and why have you unvoted me?

Marry me. <3

[Ranger]

i would probably be willing to vote either xkfyu or minsc solely for the AD votes. RC is probably also town.

This.

[Ranger]

Townish: {Nahdia, Aristo, NM}
Townlean: Gorkington, Roshar, Marcuhan}
Null
Scummy: {Titus hydra}
Scumlords: {Xkfyu, Fire Assassin}

<3

[Ranger]

Town: {Ircher, Roshar}
Townish: {Nahdia, NM}
Townlean: {Aristo, Gorkington, Marcuhan}
still Okish: {Chamber}
Null
Maybe scum: {Iecerint}
Scummy: {Xkfyu}
Scumlords: {Fire Assassin}
Scumlord prime: {Minsc and Boo}

<3

Town: {Ircher, Roshar}
Townish: {Nahdia, NM}
Townlean: {Gorkington, Maruchan}
Lurksauce: {Aristo}
Null
Scumbum: {Xkfyu, Iecerint}
Scumlorderinoes: {Fire Assassin}
Scummiest scumbutt NA: {Minsc and Boo}

<3 <3 <3

As for me,
{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes, Roshar}
{Maruchan}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Iecerint}

[Ranger]

VOTE: Minsc and Boo.

This is where I want to be.

[Ranger]

Only Fire Assassin, really.

And I have very good reason to believe Fire Assassin is town.

[Ranger]

They're townreads, but I'm not strongly feeling them as town. It's mostly that whatever it is you saw that made them strongly town, isn't making me see them as strongly town. I see town, I just don't see "absolutely-never-touch-these-people"-tiered town from them.

[Ranger]

I'm not sure how I feel about Ranger probably being right again.

What?

But

you

feel more right than I do!

[Ranger]

ranger can you talk at me about iece?

All of his posts save his very first two have been super, duper skeevy. I haven't liked any of his content. Not his pushes, not his reasons, nothing. It all has felt shallow and empty.

I'm probably not going to demonstrate tonight, but I can elaborate tomorrow if you can't see it. Just...try isoing him and see what you find. For me, it was a strong feeling of him being scum.

[Ranger]

Why do you townread Andro so much?

Honestly? That's a read which should objectively be weaker. Objectively, they'd be a weak townread, with me liking their early play and thinking both heads look good...but certainly not top-tier. They're in there mostly by gut. I just don't see them as scum.

[Ranger]

I'm down to call it if everyone else is.

I'd prefer we have a flip or two before calling a game.

Mainly for the selfish reason that I want to know if my reads were right, but if everyone feels the same way, I wouldn't disagree. I'm enjoying this game, but I just came in; I'm not hugely invested in it, so it wouldn't be the end of the world if it

was

called.

[Ranger]

We're lynching Minsc or Xkfyu. If Aristo's scum he'll get lynched eventually the way he's playing. I'm not wasting a d1 lynch on him.

This.

[Ranger]

I think the lesson learned from this is "screw multiball", especially in a mini, because 2:1 is still multiball at this size.

[Ranger]

I'll admit I was surprised at learning I was a VT.