Best is Majora's Mask, you think anything else, you are
Is cleavage only a secret hydra with the signings being aliases or are they actual player people?
VOTE: Davsto because no votes on him yet, clearly scum.
In post 52, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 44, Cookie Bakers wrote:Feeling a little green at the moment. Shiro will be taking point for awhile. Hopefully just the day.
Being sick is an xpost on all games when I finish.
For now, let's see where this phoenix thing goes.
VOTE: Phoenix
VOTE: Cookie Bakers
:3
In post 64, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 61, Davsto wrote:In post 52, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 44, Cookie Bakers wrote:Feeling a little green at the moment. Shiro will be taking point for awhile. Hopefully just the day.
Being sick is an xpost on all games when I finish.
For now, let's see where this phoenix thing goes.
VOTE: Phoenix
VOTE: Cookie Bakers
:3
Okay so
are you actually going to reason
Or just place a vote here because of a vague non-reason by quoting a post so you don't actually have to do any thinking yourself
In the hope that people will just know the reason and bam easy vote no questions
VOTE: Davsto
Thing is, some people do it as scum too. Every player is not you. Remember how I was in Denmark Mafia?In post 124, Dwlee99 wrote:When I would get tunneled as town I:
Spam post
Tell everyone they're idiots
Hard defend myself saying why their reasons are wrong
And scum read the people who seem disingenuous on my wagon
Okay now this looks like you've decided you've fucked up and are backtracking. Ew.In post 136, Phoenix Wright wrote:UNVOTE: I realized that cleavage isn't scum because if he was he'd know that they own would find him to be the most suspicious on day 2 after they saw me flip town. Pushing for my lynch this hard when he knows that I'm town would basically be suicide. So he's just dumb town
I mean, in part that's because I self-voted in RVSIn post 167, Toogeloo wrote:How is it that Davsto is the lead wagon but there's been almost no discussion of it?
In post 177, clearance only wrote:Davsto vote somebody.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but... did this actuallyIn post 184, Xkfyu wrote:Holy shit. All hell broke loose while I was asleep.
Alright, I guess I'll explain this now.
Davsto had voted himself in RVS, and I wanted to see a couple of things.
Q1. How long it would take a wagon to form on the heels of a self vote and a vote with no reasoning attached to it.
A1. Not terrbily long. Dwlee joined it fairly quickly, though that seemed to be for more flippant reasons than because there was a wagon already. Nahdia was fourth on the wagin, but I was actually thinking along the same lines as her, so it's hard to find that scummy. So, I think they are both null from this, for me.
Q2. How long it would take Davsto to unvote himself after said wagon started to form?
A2. Quite a while, actually. Plus, he barely reacted to my reasonless vote. This gives me a slight town vibe on Davsto, even though what Nahdia mentions about him "ascertaining too much too early" does concern me a bit. For now though,
UNVOTE: Davsto
Irrelevant, but I totally read this in a dramatic movie trailer voice.In post 189, Xkfyu wrote:In post 187, SirCakez wrote:What the hell why is Davsto the leading wagon?
He's not. Not anymore.
I know this has been pointed out before but this just seems like something unnatural that he's decided that it's too late to backtrack on - does he honestly think scum never push town because then they'll look bad?In post 210, Phoenix Wright wrote:cleavage only- I don't think your ideas are very well thought out. But the fact that you're acting so sure that I'm scum and pushing extremely hard for my lynch doesn't seem like somethings cum would do. If you were scum, you'd know that I'd flip town. So that means that you're probably town.
This strikes me as town. Don't feel like scum would backtrack just for the sake of it.In post 234, Nahdia wrote:You know what, disregard anything I said about cleavage being town. I reread that initial push and I just don't get it. Not saying cleavage is scum for it but fmpov I can't read whether it's genuine or if they were trying to stir up a ruckus early for town cred, not necessarily expecting the vote to go through.
Yeah this can get a vote for nowIn post 251, beeboy wrote:In post 179, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 172, beeboy wrote:I think I ha\/e a pretty solid spot on PW and you guys are strawmaning the shit out of what is happening.
Lay down this solid case you have on me
I don't need a case to think you are scum.
This feels like a bunch of random words strung together to justify a townread.In post 285, beeboy wrote:meta based gut read on the way he is posting.
Curious - why bring me up here? Not an accusatory question, just wondering.In post 292, Cookie Bakers wrote:Dave still registers as null.
I mean, why? At the time, I hadn't posted anything new to justify a bigger scumread.In post 328, Nahdia wrote:Still like my Dav vote tbh.
In post 398, SirCakez wrote:And there goes my town read on Dwlee.
Quoting in case a case isn't made.In post 409, SirCakez wrote:I'll have to write the case tomorrow, something came up, apologies.
Heh, I think you might misunderstand how I make these quote walls they're not really attempting to show all my stances and give a general overview of my feelings on all the players - generally speaking, I just comment on anything that catches my eye. Cakez has slipped under before, apparently, so I may have to ISO him tomorrow.In post 413, clearance only wrote:In post 386, Davsto wrote:In post 177, clearance only wrote:Davsto vote somebody.
This gives me an instinctive urge not to vote anybody. Just saying.
fwiw I loled pretty hard at this
Rest of your post notably lacks a stance on cakes, though. Get to work on that.
-S
Touché.In post 429, Nahdia wrote:Nor had anything been posted to justify a smaller scumread =PIn post 386, Davsto wrote:
I mean, why? At the time, I hadn't posted anything new to justify a bigger scumread.In post 328, Nahdia wrote:Still like my Dav vote tbh.
Oh yay, softclaims.In post 438, Cookie Bakers wrote:Lol. As Firebringer says, I am the fairy godmother. But nope. You'll likely see what we are tomorrow. :-p
Huh, he actually made the case. A half-decent one too.In post 449, SirCakez wrote:Why I think Phoenix Wright is scum
-His unvote in 136 looks like an attempt to disengage from an argument when the tide turned against him. Deathtunneling does not automatically equal town and it looks like an excuse to try to escape his 1 v 1 with Cleavage. His reasons for unvoting the wagon were flawed and I explained why in a series of posts starting in 195.
-220 is a terrible vote. Radja popped in and started catching up and PW immediately made a vote on him for "agreeing with everyone else" which is not indicative of scum first of all, then as well he was unable to back it up when the point was refuted by Radja.
-His jump on me when Cleavage started pushing me was opportunistic as hell. He made zero mention of being suspicious of me until others began pushing me. This is a running trend throughout his ISO. He is very cautious and makes sure what he does fits with what most of the other players think at the time.
-387 and 390 are flail posts that town wouldn't make. After I refuted his points he instead decided to "stop talking to me" and run away.
Oh yay, softclaims.In post 473, SirCakez wrote:That's how I play yo. Deal with it.
And no I'm not just going to give up and get mislynched. My role is confirmable anyways but I'd rather not claim.
Please into fixing this.In post 482, 3dicerolling wrote:Not Voting: Aristophanes
Yeah but all the reasons I'm scumreading him still exist. SirCakez has bits that feel good to me, like his case on PW was actually decent.In post 510, clearance only wrote:Like your point about beeboy trying to lurk off his wagon was just proven false.
But you wanna stay anyway?
If you are implying what I think you're implying hereIn post 555, clearance only wrote:Cakes what was the point of you calling out dav having a lurking scummeta and not pushing the game forward and all that stuff - just for him to end up in your null pile?
Last minute distancing or something? lol
I kinda wanna say both.In post 574, clearance only wrote:In post 558, Xkfyu wrote:In post 460, Phoenix Wright wrote:And those last 3 points of yours happened after you said you'd write your case against me. So if they hadn't happened, you would only have one point for why you think I'm scum? Lol
This is a good point, and makes me feel like Cakez's scum read was fake to begin with.
UNVOTE: beeboy
VOTE: SirCakez
Am I crazy or does this look like bussing?
I mean, I'd say that the wagon took loooaaads of effort to build up, and then suddenly a bunch of people piled on after a few already had. If this was Titus, I would instavote because she watches votes closely enough for me to be hella suspicious for that blatant wrong..ness. Thankfully, you're only Shiro, so you get a tap on the head, a scowly look, and a minor scumlean.In post 622, Cookie Bakers wrote:The very fact of how unopposed Cakez wagon was is really suspicious. If he was scum it looks as if he is solo.
That me and SirCakez are scum partners?In post 643, clearance only wrote:In post 640, Davsto wrote:If you are implying what I think you're implying here
What do you think I'm implying here?
So, uh, he was really easy to get a wagon on but scum were white knighting him?In post 645, Cookie Bakers wrote:Scum are white knighting the fuck out of SirCakez. It's not just "effort" that indicates whether a player has no partners.
The fuck?In post 653, Toogeloo wrote:jestering
I'm like 90% sure that is what white knighting is. That's why I'm confused as to Titus yelling at me when I was saying basically the same thing she was; that SirCakez was hard to get a wagon on.In post 660, SirCakez wrote:I thought that was buddying. I always thought white knighting was when some townie is getting wagoned and scum goes in and defends them to gain their favor in reads in the future.
you vote me, i'll vote trumpcleavage only wrote:VOTE: Davsto
In post 678, clearance only wrote:Dave get back in here and engage or die.
You're welcomeIn post 683, clearance only wrote:I don't know what y/w means.
Oh but I am, trust me
Because your first thought when returning is worrying about your wagon rather than doing shit?beeboy wrote:Wait why am I a leading wagon?
In post 711, Cookie Bakers wrote:Really? Not preconceived? He asked the mod to confirm rolemadness before his claim.
In post 716, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 714, Davsto wrote:In post 711, Cookie Bakers wrote:Really? Not preconceived? He asked the mod to confirm rolemadness before his claim.
Sure, but he suuuper strongly hinted that he was VT before then. Like, incredibly strongly.
Ok, where?
In post 591, Toogeloo wrote:If this game is a role madness game, I will be a bit upset with my role.
"Claiming VT after mod confirmed is suspicious"In post 711, Cookie Bakers wrote:Really? Not preconceived? He asked the mod to confirm rolemadness before his claim. The wiki has claiming VT in a role madness game will look town. Toog confirms role madness and then claims VT. Pretty planned to me.
What parts of your Cakes case do you feel I ignored?
Also, nadhia agreeing with you isn't a reason to defend them. If they're scummy, why can't they be scum agreeing with your push on town.
In post 724, Cookie Bakers wrote:"wait no I meant earlier than that"In post 721, Davsto wrote:In post 716, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 714, Davsto wrote:In post 711, Cookie Bakers wrote:Really? Not preconceived? He asked the mod to confirm rolemadness before his claim.
Sure, but he suuuper strongly hinted that he was VT before then. Like, incredibly strongly.
Ok, where?
In post 591, Toogeloo wrote:If this game is a role madness game, I will be a bit upset with my role.
In 589 is where Toog tries to confirm role madness. Him being annoyed at being a VT after 589 doesn't work.
In post 741, beeboy wrote:{Aristophanes, Aristophanes
Woahwoahwoah the fuck happened here? This wagon dissolved way too quickly and quietly for me to be comfortable.In post 850, 3dicerolling wrote:beeboy (0) -
How convenient! So what do you suggest we do with Ari? Let him live because he'd only be a policy lynch, scum don't kill him, have him be lynched in LYLO and then we lose if he's town?In post 851, beeboy wrote:
I don't ha\/e enough moti\/ation to make a case right now. Especially in a game like this where the leading wagon is based on policy.
He's not particularly. But he isn't this bad, generally speaking.In post 953, SirCakez wrote:I thought Aristo was usually an active player.
Nah, it's not scummy. Just idiotic and pedantic.In post 976, Cookie Bakers wrote:Dave, you know I read people through wagons. Right or wrong, it's what I do. You're trying to paint two lynches as scummy is just stupid or scummy.
I'd argue the opposite. Scum wouldIn post 976, Cookie Bakers wrote:The only people who have tried to stop this plan are our scumreads, and I do not find that to be a coincidence. Scum don't want a dual lynch.
In post 980, Cookie Bakers wrote:If Ari is this obvscum, like everyone is peddling, why is it so hard to get votes on him and easy on Cakey?
In post 985, Cookie Bakers wrote:In my place, who would you shoot Dave or beeboy?
In post 989, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 984, Davsto wrote:In post 980, Cookie Bakers wrote:If Ari is this obvscum, like everyone is peddling, why is it so hard to get votes on him and easy on Cakey?
Everyone's justifying potentially voting Ari. They just can't be arsed because it seems like a lot of effort over you literally just shooting him and ending it there, rather than wasting time with this whole "ooh lets get him to L-1 first". You're just being stubborn for no reason, and it's ahugefucking pain in the ass. Also, no offence here, but we have no reason to trust you over anyone else. Who knows that you won't just vote them and get them regularly lynched since they were at L-1? Yeah yeah, I know, people will see it as scummy, but this is you we're talking about here Titus, and if anyone could pull that shit, it's you.
And here's the quaking. Fear of Titus scum to justify not casting a vote on your scumread when a hammer rather than a dayvig would justify lynching us.
You're the one being stubborn by claiming to scumread Ari but refusing to vote him.
In post 995, Cookie Bakers wrote:Because scum are accountable for their scumreads. Right now, I have a nagging paranoia that the Ari wagon is 100% town on town and scum are trying to justify not being on the wagon and then attacking everyone who voted it.
In post 1004, Nahdia wrote:Dav is your scumread really based purely on them lurking?
In post 1006, Cookie Bakers wrote:Nah. Actions speak louder than words.
If he has a scumread, he can vote Ari. If not, he won't.
We are not shooting until L minus 1 and a claim happens. That's the protown way to play this.
When scum coast on bullshit to avoid casting votes, then town loses.
In post 1038, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 1035, Davsto wrote:The moment Ari comes back to say "catching up", soon after which he'll certainly see the claim request, I'll happily put him straight back at L-1 (presuming he actually does it while I'm there but that's not my problem).
Nobody claims at L minus 2 Dave. That is unless they are scum or noob.
In post 1040, Nahdia wrote:They do if a dayvig is pointing a gun in their face lolIn post 1038, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 1035, Davsto wrote:The moment Ari comes back to say "catching up", soon after which he'll certainly see the claim request, I'll happily put him straight back at L-1 (presuming he actually does it while I'm there but that's not my problem).
Nobody claims at L minus 2 Dave. That is unless they are scum or noob.
In post 1039, Nahdia wrote:and insisting Cookies was bluffing about the dayvig is dumb and, in your case, bad.
In post 1043, Davsto wrote:In post 1038, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 1035, Davsto wrote:The moment Ari comes back to say "catching up", soon after which he'll certainly see the claim request, I'll happily put him straight back at L-1 (presuming he actually does it while I'm there but that's not my problem).
Nobody claims at L minus 2 Dave. That is unless they are scum or noob.
In post 1040, Nahdia wrote:They do if a dayvig is pointing a gun in their face lolIn post 1038, Cookie Bakers wrote:In post 1035, Davsto wrote:The moment Ari comes back to say "catching up", soon after which he'll certainly see the claim request, I'll happily put him straight back at L-1 (presuming he actually does it while I'm there but that's not my problem).
Nobody claims at L minus 2 Dave. That is unless they are scum or noob.
In post 1050, Nahdia wrote:no that was at Xkfyu sorry all my recent posts have been at him
In post 1052, Davsto wrote:You're a real piece of shit sometimes you know, Titus? You say this like we haven't said anything about beeboy. We have. Use basic fucking reading skills rather than acting like you are some sort of unquestionable mafia deity.Titus wrote:Nahdia wrote:(There's another one of those "lol" posts)
What is silly is citing "tonal" so that you don't have to back it up with anything.
Agreed.
Dave and Nahdia are sitting here whining about putting Ari at L minus 1 and not casing their mislynches.
In post 1055, Davsto wrote:In post 1052, Davsto wrote:You're a real piece of shit sometimes you know, Titus? You say this like we haven't said anything about beeboy. We have. Use basic fucking reading skills rather than acting like you are some sort of unquestionable mafia deity.Titus wrote:Xkyiushsie wrote:(There's another one of those "lol" posts)Nahdia wrote:[something i can't remember and is irrelevant]
What is silly is citing "tonal" so that you don't have to back it up with anything.
Agreed.
Dave and Nahdia are sitting here whining about putting Ari at L minus 1 and not casing their mislynches.
fixed
In post 1059, Cookie Bakers wrote:@Davsto, Your tone is matching the frustration you had at being caught for the wrong reasons in NY 191. I was a shit player there tunnelling town while the rest of the town was just terrible.