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I vote whoever I think is most likely to be scum. That doesn't mean it is much more significant than a FOS.Foolster41 wrote:VitimanR: That's pure WIFOM by the way. Not perticipating (without a good reason) is scummy.
And you're voting me because I'm opposed to random voting? I understand an FOS maybe (as other have done), but 1.) I think that's rather extreme 2.)It is obvious I'm, doing my best to participate in exchange for not random voting. 3.)I believe said it was more a personal taste (and never said that people should right not ohmygosh stop random voting
vote: chamber
2 is a good point. Actually, what bothers me about not random voting is how the player avoids the spotlight with it. The rest of your posts don't really match that, so I think I'll unvote.
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A superficial look at the wording of 1, 2, 3, and 5 should be enough to tell you that it is not. In any case, it is a wonderfully biased account of events.Sailor Jerry wrote:Is this an accurate account of what just happened?
I like my vote.Sailor Jerry wrote:(1) Blake Judge doesn't really do anything at all.
(2) Thesp attempts to start a bandwagon because of the apparent 'scumminess' of (1).
(3) Thesp attempts to goad me into jumping onto the bandwagon.
(4) I admit I don't really get why he's voting Blake Judge.
(5) Thesp fingers me for not jumping on a bandwagon that I really don't think has a base.-
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Eh? The last vote for Foolster was at the top of page 2. Look at page 2 and 3. There is basically a post of Foolster's in every 3 or 4 posts. If he's avoided the thread at all, it was when the spotlight was off him, in the last couple of days when there hasn't been much to discuss.Sailor Jerry wrote:Why? I'm not saying that you lurk all the time.
I'm just pointing out that you've avoided this thread completely since the spotlight went on you, despite the fact that you've been online a lot. And I think that's pretty scummy.-
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I don't think mole or Blake Judge are scum.
Re-reading brought me very little, except for the gut feeling that Fuldu is scum. (which I have fairly often for some reason, sorry Fuldu).
It's this post:
It's just so absolute. No qualms about putting on a fifth vote that early at all. Thesp's sixth vote and Fritzler's hammer are more understandable to me, and how Sailor Jerry went from 3 to 6 so quickly was strange. I wouldn't be surprised if there was scum in there.Fuldu wrote:
Blake Judge, I think this is the best summary of why the bandwagon on Jerry makes sense. I was okay with his behavior when it was just about you, but once he explained that his vote on Foolster was in consequence of what he viewed as scummy lurking, then the level of inconsistency became scummy.mole wrote:Okay, so now chamber and Foolster lurking is scummy, but Blake Judge lurking isn't.
Please explain why I shouldn't vote for you.
unvote: chamber; vote: Sailor Jerry
I don't really have anything more substantial at this point and I don't really want to base a vote on this.
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Thanks, PJ!petroleumjelly wrote:Mod Edit: Quote tags fixed.
Not from a behavioural point of view, no. I'd expect Fritzler to hammer in that situation. Thesp already built his case against SJ when there was no vote on SJ. Although I could see Thesp tying a scum buddy to a townie and pushing the townie, but I'd need a bit more evidence to assume that one.Fuldu wrote:I'm sorry, you're going to need to explain that a little better. Putting on the fifth vote was scummy, but putting on the sixth and last votes wasn't?-
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The last comment was a joke. I should have made that clear!Foolster41 wrote: VitaminR: From what I've seen of chamber, he has an unusual playing style. Also, I doubt scum would just announce their intention to lurk if it was a significant decision.
JDodge: So if someone admits to doing something, they're automatically cleared of being a suspect?
Vitamin R: Yes.
I thought JDodge was misrepresenting my logic so I responded with a joke.
I just think that the advantage in lurking for scum lies in slipping under the radar. If you announce your intention to lurk, the advantage is lost. You're actually making it more difficult for yourself.
As for my Fuldu vote, I do feel we're still in a Day 1 phase, basically. It's primarily gut.
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Right, I get what you mean now.HurriKaty wrote:
... So wait, Sailor Jerry managed to get lynched Day 1 on "gut"?VitaminR wrote: As for my Fuldu vote, I do feel we're still in a Day 1 phase, basically. It's primarily gut.
No, but I do think 'gut' votes are justified at this point. SJ got lynched so quickly that we don't have that much info, really.
I do think these are the scum:
chamber - too lurkish for his normal lurkish self + I trust Fritz's judgement.
Thesp - metagame reasons mostly, when he's town he goes out of his way to ask questions, test theories and clear people. As scum he just pursues people ardently. I think the latter is happening in this game.
Fuldu - for reasons already given.
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How is it OMGUS, exactly?Fuldu wrote:And, frankly, that's the most suspicious thing I see going on right now. As the object of VitaminR's suspicion, it's hard to disengage such concerns entirely from the notion of OMGUS, but really. a) VitaminR has repeatedly suggested that we didn't get any useful information from yesterday's lynch.
You didn't vote me, nor have you expressed suspicion of me.
This is nice and patronising. My gut feeling is that you're scum. Rather than attempting to construe a case against you around that, I think it's fairer that I just say that.Fuldu wrote:b) VitaminR has voted for me on the basis of an, ummm, unusual read of information from yesterday's lynch.
Also, you questioned my vote earlier. I explained what I meant then. You didn't get back to it. I think it is a bit unfair to ridicule it now without referring to that explanation.
I've said that you could see it that way. They don't for me.Fuldu wrote:c) VitaminR has acknowledged that he recognizes that these two facts are in competition and that the former undermines the latter.
Honestly, I feel that there is not much in Day 1's posts that allows me to get a read on the players in this game. Can we be done calling this 'silly' and 'babble' and move on?-
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Misread that, sorry.Fuldu wrote:I didn't vote, but you have the other part right at the beginning of what you quoted.
Fair enough.Fuldu wrote:As for the comments about the non-gut pieces of the basis for your vote, yeah that was a little patronizing. Sorry. I find the argument difficult to respond to, but not because I believe it has any merit, so I was left without anything constructive to say about it.
Gah... I don't get the feeling you're scum any more.
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Righto. I am free to criticise JDodge for doing something I did too. It's not illogical. What he did can still be scummy.Foolster41 wrote:Vitamin: I think it's the double negetive that's confusing me. Could you rephrase it, and tell me what it is refering to. instead of saying you "don't get" why I don't get it?
In any case, it is the different way in which he did it that matters to me. He jumped on the SJ wagon, I was the first vote. He stayed on the BJ wagon for (and had the third vote), I was the second vote and I unvoted.-
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Wanting to believe Fritzler is useful? I don't know, I've rarely seen Fritz come out and say someone is scum that way. I thought it was significant. That impression was pretty much blown away when he switched votes quickly after that, though.Ether wrote:I'd be cool with a Fritzlynch; other people have said why. When he voted me, I'm not really sure why VitaminR's initial impression was to "trust [his] gut." At the very least, I'd like to read what made my predecessor stand out for him.
Unvote: JDodge,
Vote: Fritzler
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I'm starting to agree.Thesp wrote:
I wish I was a dayvig.HurriKaty wrote:And Thesp, "What do you think of VitaminR's post" and "Who do you think are scum" are two completely different questions.
I supppose I hoped that this would indicate that I wanted you to tell us who you thought were scum besides me. (It's almost certain there's at least two scum left.) I do not believe you failed to observe that, so my suspicion is that you are being deliberately difficult or are stalling like crazy to avoid the question. Happy with my vote.
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This refers to the point I brought up earlier, which we've already gone over.Fuldu wrote:I'm not sure how to argue with not liking my "position on the Sailor Jerry wagon,"
Well you didn't post, so that wasn't really evident.Fuldu wrote:but I was trying to give HurriKaty the opportunity to claim, which is usually valuable, even if scum are stalling.-
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Calling it bizarre is rather unfair. I found it strange that the SJ wagon led to a lynch that quickly. I expect pro-town players to be somewhat cautious about putting on the 5th, 6th and hammer votes. I understood Fritz and Thesp's vote. That leaves you.Fuldu wrote:Yes, I know what it refers to and I've accepted that you believe it, but given that I still find the argument bizarre, I have a hard time responding to it.
True, both don't change the fact that you stayed away from the Katy wagon completely when it was developing.VitaminR wrote:I suppose, but if I'd posted to say "Yeah, I think HurriKaty is a reasonable play, but I'd still like to wait until she claims," then you'd just be making a slightly different argument against me.-
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