Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

[Boonskiies]

I'm gonna...I'm gonna...eh...

VOTE: Anatole

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: LynchMePls

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because he's scum.

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I listened to that Dr. Horrible soundtrack video 5 times before moving on.

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Aww, man....that's Horrible. I hated being a llama!

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I watched my freeze ray video on vote count.

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Damn. I'll catch up later, babes.

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I'll catch up tomorrow and post.

[Boonskiies]

@AA9 - Why would I act upon your pressure vote? I really don't care to defend myself, as I am

HORRIBLE

at defending myself, both as town and scum, so I just don't. Sure, I'll try to persuade others to not vote me on occasion, and sometimes even have a freakout, but usually I won't defend myself much unless I think someone misunderstood me. As for the lurking part making me scum, I'm usually more active as scum because I become more interested in the game. I am active elsewhere because it's easier to stay caught up in some games than others, and I usually only check on my phone, and post from there.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: AA9

[Boonskiies]

Hypo convinced me.

[Boonskiies]

It's because I'm falling behind. I have been only active on my phone, and it's hard to keep up on all of my games that way. I have only been periodically skimming since like page 8. It's not intentional lurking, as Arc had said. Also, as scum, I tend to be super active anyways, so I don't see how it's a scum tell.

[Boonskiies]

I got prodded so I had to do something, haha. I'll probably change it if I get an actual scum read. (i suck day 1 with reads, and i haven't really been reading this game.)


@AA9 - yeah, answer his questions.

[Boonskiies]

I wasn't active in any games. Haha. Did anyone ask me questions? because I'll answer them. I've been limited to phone posting recently. Give me a break. I'm here now anyways.

[Boonskiies]

I've been really

horrible

lately, guys. I apologize for not being able to post. Been busy. I'll catch up within the next few days.

[Boonskiies]

Spoiler: Boonskies

I dont even know what to say. Nothing of use has come from you. An obvious lurker, but apart from that, I don't know.

Read: 4 or 5. The lurking is Anti-town, but

isn't scum-indicative.

This post was just going to say that because I have so much to do, I need to semi-start my VLA now, but when I saw Boonskies post, I couldn't not VOTE: boonskies.

What exactly about the post did you find reasonable enough to be unable to resist voting? it's nothing different than what you had said wasn't alignment-indicative. Also, a lot of the questions you tend to be asking are confirmation on what had been said. Another thing, a lot of your posts tend to be 'I don't have anything to add right now! I'm keeping up on the thread, but I'm unable to think of anything. Derp. Derp. Derp. You got into a mini heated argument, and as soon as it started heating up, you wanted to pull away, as you were about to be in the spotlight. I don't like. Any of this. The way you jumped on GreyIce's (GreyIce, the guy who always votes me without much reason in every game I'm in with him) vote immediately after expecting an easy PL was downright bleh. Did you expect people to jump on it easily while you were gone?


VOTE: Istott

[Boonskiies]

I'm back! I'll be making a bunch of posts now.

I've been really

horrible

lately, guys. I apologize for not being able to post. Been busy. I'll catch up within the

next few days.

This was why I voted you. I know now i was probably wrong, but it gave me the feeling that you weren't making an effort. Had you not said "next few days", I would not have voted you.

This is exactly what drew me to vote you in the first place. You aren't going through with anything. Any vote you do, you will easily back off if it doesn't seem like it's going to go through, and you don't even try to push for it. It's an easy way to make it look like you are doing something without drawing attention to yourself.

[Boonskiies]

Ok ah, why is boon a town read then?

Because I was being considered for a policy lynch due to 'lurking'. Anywho, I think I've developed a town read for Anatole. Ever since the game him and I were scum together, I've been able to read him easier.

[Boonskiies]

Is there any particular reason for a Boon lynch outside of policy?

I've played with him before and read games he was in, and I don't think I've ever seen him be very useful in a game regardless of alignment.

My early game is horrendous, that's why. I always step it up shortly after. Must have been reading/playing in my early games on the site...yikes.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: boon

Bad vote. My Day 1's are horrible.

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I don't think Ankamius is scum. I don't think he would be opposing my lynch if he was. Too easy to mislynch me without repercussions at this point.

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Fuck. Dr Horrible. Town Inventor. I've been crumbing Horrible this whole game. Don't vote me. I'll take the Night Kill.

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VOTE: egg

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Yeah. First theme game, my day 1's suck in general, and overtook way too much in real life. This game has suffered the most from that. I totally agree with me almost getting PL.

[Boonskiies]

Well...uhm...

[Boonskiies]

Anyone have anything to say that happened throughout the night?

[Boonskiies]

Wait, how do we know I did something?

[Boonskiies]

Yeah, the tone I meant it to be in was me trying to make it obvious I did something.

I gave Lightning Rod to Anatole last night.

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I'm pretty sure I redirected the kill from me to AK. I didn't think that was going to happen at the time. I was town reading AK, and I thought maybe it would make AK like the Lightning Rod role for the night.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Antihero

I don't see how you can possibly scum read me. At all. Haha. I'm so town, it's laughable.

[Boonskiies]

I thought it just act as a lightning rod role. Just village idiot, not scum.

[Boonskiies]

Well, I knew lightning rod redirected everything towards, but I thought it would stop any deaths from happening. I've only seen Lightning Rod ability once, and it was in F2F at the Titus meet, and that's how it worked in the game there.

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Boon, go ask bulbazak EXACTLY how your lightning rod role worked, and then let us know please.

I don't want "unknown" at work if we at some point in time have to go back and re-create night actions.

I don't think I'm allowed to know how my inventions work.

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I'm definitely not. That's the point of my role in this game.

[Boonskiies]

so you DID know what it would do

BUT NO YOU DON'T KNOW

you're a bad liar, boonskiies

read the god damn post. god damn ignorance. I thought that no kill would happen if one were to happen.

I believe AP and Cabd were in my game in F2F when there was a lightning rod at the Titus meet, and that's what it did there.

[Boonskiies]

welp, not having a good time with this game anyways. Good luck town. Hope you figure the scum out from my wagon.

[Boonskiies]

I believe AP and Cabd were in my game in F2F when there was a lightning rod at the Titus meet, and that's what it did there.

This is not how it worked there either. That only occurs if there's a protective role and scum has no strongman shot. Why you'd assume neither was the case makes no sense form a "I am town and know no other roles" POV. Not to mention lightning-rodding a town read in the first place. If you are town, I'm afraid you've made an error so grave that, due to the sheer WIFOM of it, there's no way you can be allowed to live past today. Period.

Well, I guess we've found it.

VOTE: Medea

After I flip Town inventor, lynch it.

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I would have been the NK of last night anyways, and I highly doubt scum will allow me to use my other inventions either, so me being lynched toDay, or night killed toNight, either way this is my last day in the game. So just lynch Medea for me tomorrow.

[Boonskiies]

do you think I would be hard crumbing being Dr. Horrible if I was scum? That's not a great flavor to claim as scum.

[Boonskiies]

This is just really too convenient though. Lightning rod is one of the few roles he could use to explain why he wasn't killed.

oh i don't think he's lying about being an inventor and giving ak the lightning rod

i just don't think he's town

This is a scum slip. If I was scum, I wouldn't have been shot, thus making me give the lightning rod to AK moot. He said this like he knows I was shot, and I gave the lightning rod to AK. He is suggesting I am scum and having all of that still happen. He saw something he could get an easy lynch off of, and is pushing it.

VOTE: Antihero

[Boonskiies]

Read the part you bolded, man....you said it 'like you know'. You wouldn't flat out say you know you tried to shoot me. You aren't that incompetent.

[Boonskiies]

I apologize. You aren't incompetent, you're just scum.

what question? You have no avatar, so it's harder to see the posts when I read on my phone.

[Boonskiies]

I do not buy this at all. I cannot see Doctor Horrible as being a fully town role.
Boon, is there anything that will change your alignment?

My role pm says that I don't know what my inventions will do.

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the invention was called lightning rod. I was hoping it would be the same thing. It was the safest invention to use to try and protect myself from a NK.

There isn't anything else to my role other than my inventions.

[Boonskiies]

So what are the other roles you can invent? And do you get to choose which one you give to your target?

freeze ray/death ray/shield/deflector.

yes, I choose who I give my invention to.

[Boonskiies]

and it can't be myself.

[Boonskiies]

freeze ray - possibly role blocks?
death ray - kill shot
shield - doctor shot
deflector - returns the action back at the person, a la i give it to someone who is going to be killed, it kills the shooter. not sure on this one.

[Boonskiies]

I don't know what they do, those are guesses.

If I gave out a shield, I would have been the one to die. I said already, I can't give them to myself, so I would have been shot and died. Lightning rod was the only seemingly chance I saw to keep myself alive during the night. Again, I've only seen lightning rod once before, and it was in F2F, and in that game, the person who had the lightning rod ability didn't die. I guess it was because of some other outside force. I don't know.

@Murder - Doctor Horrible, Town Inventor.

[Boonskiies]

I'm done answering questions about why I targeted Anatole. I feel like a broken record.

[Boonskiies]

I'll say it one more time...damn. I didn't give the shield out, because then I would have died!!! I was under the impression that I was going to be the night kill. Me giving out the shield would have done absolutely nothing since I believe I was the actual night kill.

[Boonskiies]

I listened to that Dr. Horrible soundtrack video 5 times before moving on.

Aww, man....that's Horrible. I hated being a llama!

I watched my freeze ray video on vote count.

@AA9 - Why would I act upon your pressure vote? I really don't care to defend myself, as I am

HORRIBLE

at defending myself, both as town and scum, so I just don't. Sure, I'll try to persuade others to not vote me on occasion, and sometimes even have a freakout, but usually I won't defend myself much unless I think someone misunderstood me. As for the lurking part making me scum, I'm usually more active as scum because I become more interested in the game. I am active elsewhere because it's easier to stay caught up in some games than others, and I usually only check on my phone, and post from there.

I've been really

horrible

lately, guys. I apologize for not being able to post. Been busy. I'll catch up within the next few days.

[Boonskiies]

It was just on the flavor of my role, and the fact that I had a freeze ray (invention). In post 37, I said that I watched it 5 times to try and show I had 5 different inventions.

[Boonskiies]

Obvtown.

[Boonskiies]

Caught up, will post later.

[Boonskiies]

I kind of like it. I agree with most of it. I don't agree with the Regfan read though.

[Boonskiies]

sorry, been a busy couple of days. Still here.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. I gave my [_____] ray to Medea. He was one of my harder to read people from the previous days, and I wanted to see how he'd react to it. I have started to town read him because of his immediate response of immediately assuming I'm confirmed town, which I don't believe 'confirms' me of anything. But from his point of view, I understand it.

[Boonskiies]

Eh, I wasn't aware exactly what it would do, Medea. I kind of thought I was on my way out last night, so might as well give one of my harder to read people something. I did think there was a possibility that I would kill you, also, but I wasn't sure exactly what it would do.

[Boonskiies]

Boon still didn't answer most of my queries, which is worrying.

I am in favour of an antihero kill, as he was a very valuable town player in the newbie I was recently in, but is hardly contributing to this game.

I haven't seen them. Sorry, I'm super skimming to try and stay caught up. I'll look now.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, just you thinking I'm being anti-town. Well, yeah. I'm barely keeping up on this game, and I'm unsure how to go about thinking about what my inventions do. I kind of just hope for the best.

[Boonskiies]

Questions for you:

1: Are your abilities all actions that give an ability to a target, all one shot abilities, a mixture, or do you not know? If one of the first 3, were you told in your pm? If the third option, what is the flavour reason for having a mix?

Someone is killing people off...one by one. My job is to find out who it is! I pretty much built these tools to help. I only get to use each once. I don't know when they'll be activated either.

2a: If the first option, why didnt you mention this when you said you gave the lightning rod to anatole?

I thought I said it.

2b: If the second, why is medea not dead?

The ray I gave him worked with a different mechanic as the lightning rod did. I'm happy he didn't die now; I started to town read him.

2c: If the third, how have you factored not knowing into your choice of target, given that (If your town-reading Medea) you could have either given a kill to a townread or downright killed them?

He was null for me; if he died, he died. Oh well, a null read out of the way for me. If not, I felt like I would read him better, which I have.

2d: If the fourth, why havent you mentioned that you didnt know? Why base your night 1 action on the thinking that you had 1-shots, but for some reason, base your N2 action on the thinking you gave 1-shots?

I thought all inventors were 1 shot with their inventions. Didn't think I'd have to say it.

3: Why would you give a kill to Medea, given that your last D2 post about them was voting them?

Previous questions.

4: This is an extremely important question. Why the heck did you not give the kill to serrapaladin, a CONFIRMED TOWN?

I didn't know Serra was confirmed town. Explain to me what happened? I missed it.

5: If you believe your abilities are a mix of 1-shots and 1-shot givers, how do you think each of your inventions work? What you say here better make sense with your next actions.

not sure anymore. the deflector role probably takes place the next night, and given to someone. don't know what mind link does. and the second ray probably gives a 1 shot role block.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, I fucked up. I don't have a freeze ray. I thought I had two rays. So yeah , I gave Medea the death ray. I have both mind link and shield.

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Hadn't looked at role pm in a while.

[Boonskiies]

Medea the Alien - town
Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest - i haven't gotten a sense of scummy from this.
Antihero - scum
F-16_Fighting_Falcon - town
Egg - town, i liked how egg said that medea should shoot Antihero, himself, or me.
Serrapaladin - town, confirmed, correct? I forgot why it's confirmed, but I remember hearing it.
Boonskiies - town
Eyestott- town
Murder of Crows - i'm wishy washy. I keep going back and forth between scum and town. If murder flips town, I could see scum egg, and possibly a scum Eyestott.
Marquis - null-leaning scum

[Boonskiies]

that's where I'm standing right now. Also, Eyestott mentioned that the death ray could be faulty. I know nothing of this, but he mentioned it before Medea says it didn't work. That's a case where I could see a scum Medea being an opportunist.
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Actually, Medea could have faked the ability of what the Death Ray did from the beginning. It says Death Ray; him saying that the death ray gives him a dayvig shot makes sense. He pulled off a genuine response to the gun being faulty, but it happened to be after Eyestott did this. I'm actually beginning to think the Death Ray gives him some kind of ability for the next night. That being said, he could get away with it by claiming he had a dayvig shot, and that it was faulty. If this turns out to be true, I could actually see an Eyestott/Medea scum team, and Eyestott set Medea up for the faulty gun line. Eyestott could be a coincidence that Medea became opportunistic to.

Eyestott has also been wanting to lynch me for quite some time now, which makes sense as scum because I am a seemingly easy lynch that any consequences or repercussions are easily avoidable due to me being me.

Suffice to say, my reads list has changed...

VOTE: Medea

[Boonskiies]

*too. Rushing on a phone, what is grammar? whatever.

[Boonskiies]

Eyestott voting me as scum buddies with Medea also seemingly gives Eyestott town cred for distancing himself from Medea. Eyestott wanted me to give him my mind link in the night, to stop whatever ability I would give to someone else, and Eyestott would then end up getting an ability. That or he was setting me up so he could lie and say that he didn't actually get the invention. Either way, I'm debating moving my vote over to Eyestott instead of Medea. I believe they are the scum team as of right now.

[Boonskiies]

Mine was mainly due to me feeling like I town read too many people. Eyestott/Medea turning into leaning scum reads for me though makes you more null to me than anything. Was there a claim I missed by you?

[Boonskiies]

well, vote someone that's voting me. I'll obviously be able to confirm myself, and if they can't see it, it's because they're purposely trying to get me away because I'm a PR.

VOTE: Antihero

[Boonskiies]

egg's townie town mctown town.

[Boonskiies]

I'll be here if you guys need me. Just call my name.

[Boonskiies]

where's boon on that one? At the top?

[Boonskiies]

because if boon is at the top, we have the same reads list. Except maybe put f16 above marquis for me.

[Boonskiies]

Cabd's a smart guy; he knows how to gambit. I actually feel the gambit didn't start out that way, it kind of evolved as time went on, and when eye said something about it he picked up on it, and switched it. I'm not too familiar with the flavor that these roles bring, but Eyestott definitely is, and medea could be as well.

[Boonskiies]

I'm really not paying much attention to this game, Eyestott. I usually do mini normals, and mini theme is just making my mind go waaazzzggagagahhahhahahahaaaaa. I don't even remember the beginning of this game.

Besides the point, Antihero has been the main person i want to lynch all game. Why the fuck wouldn't I lynch him if he's the biggest wagon not named Boon. Go ahead and fucking lynch me. I stopped caring.

[Boonskiies]

sure, it's a fucking possibility. fucking theories man. learn what the fuck they are.

[Boonskiies]

nachohydra/boon

you're kidding me.

I'm actually sitting here trying to defend you, but you aren't really even giving me much stuff to go off of.

yup.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: DL extension

Anti is 100% right about boon, though I'm not excluding the option that he's game-throwingly bad town, and we currently need his role for the setup to work.

ok

ppl need to realize something




BOON IS NOT STUPID. HE'S NOT A VI. HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE IT BENEFITS

HIM

.

don't fall for it.

He's right. Doesn't make me scum, though. I just make bad choices, haha.

[Boonskiies]

boon's not stupid. boon's just reckless.

[Boonskiies]

Egg and I have similar reads I believe, and i just generally don't see scum in him.

[Boonskiies]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58162

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=58786


two games I believe I was alive in lylo/mylo to PROVE I won't just OMGUS. I usually make it to lylo/mylo for obvious reasons. I usually win my games.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, wait. I gave the wrong game, haha. Ah, well. Not worry about fixing that problem while phone posting.

[Boonskiies]

Town inventor, yo.

[Boonskiies]

Can someone post an organized list of claims? It will help me act tonight.

Was helping.

[Boonskiies]

i also disagree.

[Boonskiies]

why is that further evidence he's town? Egg flipping town would completely contradict that statement.

[Boonskiies]

I can still be helpful with the rest of my inventions. I can think it more through. Mind link/shield/deflector are left, what would you guys want me to do with them? What few good options would you guys prefer I do with the remaining?

[Boonskiies]

I also feel Jesu is definitely town. Let me live another day, and I'll either draw the NK or prevent one from happening. I feel I'm able to be confirmed.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not touching boon until you've claimed, Egg.

I'll hammer anti if need be.

Directing boon's night action is a bad idea, he just needs to stop being stupid about it.

You act like I'm going to actually listen 100% to him. In the end, I'll do me. I always do.

[Boonskiies]

My death ray to Medea wasn't bad I feel. It created a lot of possible scenarios that will help for analyzing things after some others have flipped.

[Boonskiies]

That's why I'm weary of it. If that were the case, I would want to give to someone I scum read, saying that it made me that person's lover.

[Boonskiies]

Why is the main reason moot?

[Boonskiies]

I hadn't even noticed he was lurking. That obviously isn't the main point.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not for egg.. I'll happily lynch Medea , though.

[Boonskiies]

What changed your mind?

[Boonskiies]

Now that's a lynch I actually feel comfortable with. We have a day left so I'll vote tomorrow and it is probably going on Medea.

do this NOW

I actually agree. If you aren't stuck on voting Antihero, I see no reason to not vote Medea now.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Medea

It'll help me read Eyestott easier anyways.

[Boonskiies]

If F-16 and egg vote, that's L-1 I believe?

[Boonskiies]

Antihero isn't making an impact in this game

and that points heavily towards scum anti to me.

VOTE: Medea

Bullshit.

L-1

[Boonskiies]

He's L-3. And I scum read you for Medea having a faulty death ray.

[Boonskiies]

So it's more a Medea scum read than you.

[Boonskiies]

I explained it pages and pages back. Don't care to look for it on my phone. It was all theory, though. I'm indifferent toward you for aski for the mind link. It's not alignment indicative at all.

[Boonskiies]

That wasn't where my scum read came from. I had made a case on you a while ago, and it might be one of those "hard to shake" things. My theory on Medea/you is what I was referring to in my last post.

[Boonskiies]

I can't think things over and change my mind? F-16 asking is a main reason I stopped.

[Boonskiies]

Also, that was part of my theory case, so it's invalid as an argument still.

[Boonskiies]

Will get to the latest posts in a bit. Also, here's a recent Boonskies towngame that I followed.

Some Day 4 antics should quiet any doubt as to whether he plays better as town.

Yeah, I can never follow up with my reasoning. It's quite unfortunate. My reads aren't horrible. But yes, I'm a much stronger scum player.

[Boonskiies]

Will get to the latest posts in a bit. Also, here's a recent Boonskies towngame that I followed.

Some Day 4 antics should quiet any doubt as to whether he plays better as town.

I legitimately make people facepalm when I'm town.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. Killing me is a

HORRIBLE

idea.

[Boonskiies]

It's probably Antihero and Murder as the remaining scum. When I can figure out how to make a case out of it that's reasonable, I'll do it. If I do it in an impatient rush, i'll probably accidentally give them town cred as scum.

Anywho, sparknotes on things that were asked of me? I'll be phone posting for a bit, and rush to make posts. i definitely saw things about me needing to answer stuff, though.

[Boonskiies]

because, as stated yesterDay, we agreed it was best given to a null-scum read. Thought there was a chance we'd end up being lovers.

[Boonskiies]

Why would egg roleblock me? We're both town reading each other.

[Boonskiies]

Well, to be fair, antihero just read a game where I was scum. In the dead thread of the game, he wrote "and your read on boonskiies is equally bad. if boonskiies is scum, i will go nominate him for scummies because that is the best fake confusion i've ever seen." Alas, I was the last scum alive in 4 person mylo and won the game, and NO SCUMMY NOMINATION FROM ANTIHERO! Hmph.

[Boonskiies]

What's your point directed at Boonskies.

The fact that him going against me hard shouldn't be alignment indicative. I don't know. It had one, but I was just waking up, was still groggy.

[Boonskiies]

On Boonskies

, I skimmed a part of his ISO and I think he naturally has a fake sounding demeanor, for instance, in how he deals with RVS votes. The reasoning that he normally uses to suspect people is fairly elementary like "I didn't like how Player X started townreading the big wagons", etc but he's also fairly confident in defending that reasoning. He also makes an interesting statement about bussing saying that if he saw his partner run up, he would have bussed. I want Antihero's thoughts on this and I'll also double check later whether his interaction with partners matches how he interacted with Mikuru/AA9 here. Boonskies tends to fairly conf-biased in his reads as shown by his confidence in his scumreads as well as seeing everything that players do as fitting into his worldview. He also tends to quickly townread players that tend to meltdown, rage and freak out easily. An interesting divergence in his town thought process is his feigning confidence when not actually confident as shown by him switching votes around a lot and insisting that since it is only page 10, no one is certain in their reads except scum. Overall town-Boonskies sounds fake on the surface but spends a lot of time genuinely scumhunting, changing his stances and taking in the gamestate and his thoughts and reads are fairly transparent. I'm not yet sure where his play here falls in that range.

Hmm, oddly accurate.

[Boonskiies]

Oi, I had just gotten Eyestott finally seeing that I'm town too!

[Boonskiies]

I was under the impression that F-16 was super town...

[Boonskiies]

I don't want to lynch Egg or F16, blargh.

[Boonskiies]

Antihero
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Egg
Serrapaladin
Boonskiies

these are my townier reads. A post I made earlier made me start to town read Anti. Everyone else I could be fine with lynching.

VOTE: nachohydra

[Boonskiies]

Metal Sonic started speaking.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't town read eyestott for long anyways.

[Boonskiies]

lack of nothing being towny to me. I didn't have a strong hold on eyestott. I want to believe that slot is scum by all means. I like his reaction to it because I started getting town read by him. haha. It really wasn't alignment indicative on his part. Easily faked.

[Boonskiies]

I was just happy in the moment he finally realized I was town.

[Boonskiies]

Hmm...I'm starting to want to vote MS now because of this...

[Boonskiies]

It's very fallacious.

[Boonskiies]

But the reason the nachohydra isn't on my towny town town list is because he was town reading me. It's not always if they are scumreading me. Scum tend to 'town' read me a lot.

[Boonskiies]

Granted, this game is not how I normally play at all. I'm kind of just here.

[Boonskiies]

It's just how the hydra was town reading me. They were like super super certain of it. Egg is egg.

@Egg - As of right now, yeah. If I had to guess the two, it would be MS/Jesus right now, but that's saying all my town reads are correct, which is highly unlikely. I just would have to figure out which of Anti/F-16/Egg is wrong.

[Boonskiies]

He's more of a null slot for me. Eyestott I was back and forth back and forth on. It's hard to get rid of that internal scum feeling from early on in the game on a slot.

[Boonskiies]

Having fucking boon in mylo would be a nightmare, but I guess we can't have everything.

Moo ha ha!

[Boonskiies]

Mm, murder's in my lynch pool.

Hamma.

VOTE: Murder

[Boonskiies]

I claim or not?

[Boonskiies]

UNVOTE:

if buddha isnt scum we lost

but if buddha isnt scum that means that boon+anti is

which is

um

hmm


twist my mouth

I really wish anti and I were scum. That would be awesome. But really, how often is Inventor scum...? I've never seen a scum Inventor.

[Boonskiies]

Okay, I looked at it, and that is much different than my inventor. My inventor screams town.

[Boonskiies]

I've never seen scum have a lightning rod...what would be the point of that with a factional kill?

[Boonskiies]

Meh, I'm obvious town by this point anyways.

[Boonskiies]

It was probably a one shot strongman or something like that. Or maybe Medea shot the BP guy with big shot and wasted it, which is why he was told it failed.

[Boonskiies]

Oh, hmm. It's obvious now. It's F-16 and Jesu.

VOTE: F-16

[Boonskiies]

But F-16 and Jesu are scum.

[Boonskiies]

Again...if I'm obvious town, Serra's town, MS is confirmed town (not sure why this is either, but sure, I'll accept it right now), and I'm getting giant town reads up the wazoo from Antihero, it makes F-16 and Jesu scum.

[Boonskiies]

Jesu epic WK'd me when they replaced in. While I was under pressure, even. I do that as scum. It was super easy for them. There really wasn't anyway possible that Jesu should have been defending me other than them WK'ing.

[Boonskiies]

Sorry for the absence, I've had some shitty things going on and haven't really felt like playing mafia. In the meantime:

Vote: Boonskies

His play today seems far less VI and far more just blatantly scum. I would also love to lynch antihero, but I'm guessing that lynch won't happen unless we somehow manage to lynch scum today and a miracle happens tomorrow.

Ohp, alright. Well, that confirms that for me. I'll be willing to lynch either of them toDay. We can just lynch the other tomorrow. Game.

[Boonskiies]

I'll join you in voting Jesus, toDay, Anti. He's playing the typical scum move of 'Boon's no longer a VI, he's scum!' card as a last resort. Good one, but it's nothing new.

VOTE: Jesus

[Boonskiies]

If anyone thinks we should go back to F-16, by all means, tell me. I'll help towards the lynch. I won't be voting anyone else toDay.

[Boonskiies]

Sorry for the absence, I've had some shitty things going on and haven't really felt like playing mafia. In the meantime:

Vote: Boonskies

His play today seems far less VI and far more just blatantly scum. I would also love to lynch antihero, but I'm guessing that lynch won't happen unless we somehow manage to lynch scum today and a miracle happens tomorrow.

Serra, I don't think that metal sonic is scum: eyestott replacing out of the game because he was spoiled and there are not many reasons for that to happen if eyestott was scum (it would have to be power role information which isn't exactly the most common thing to leak). Secondly, eyestott posted in main chat after he was replaced that he had to replace out because someone said what side would win the game. He has no reason to lie at that point because he was no longer in the game and I can't see bulbazak replacing eyestott scum for that reason, but could easily see him replacing eyestott town for that reason.

This is actually a scum slip indirectly. By him saying he feels that MS is confirmed town, by process of elimination it would mean he would basically have to see me as scum. This wasn't used as a way of trying to convince others to vote me, yet the idea would have been there if he was town.

[Boonskiies]

I forgot about the eyestott thing.

[Boonskiies]

I'm more confident as town than scum. Anti knows my scum game; this is my annoying town game.

I cleared the slot after I remembered the Eyestott thing.

[Boonskiies]

I don't believe Antihero and F-16 are partners, it's Jesus and F-16, with a smaller chance of Jesus-Anti, but I'd put F-16 far higher on the scum side than Anti. That being said, you fit the bill in both scenarios I could see happening. Ergo, you're scum.

[Boonskiies]

Again...if I'm obvious town, Serra's town, MS is confirmed town (not sure why this is either, but sure, I'll accept it

right now

), and I'm getting giant town reads up the wazoo from Antihero, it makes F-16 and Jesu scum.

Right now.

You're flailing on a minute detail that isn't going to prove anything except show how desperate your slot is to get a mislynch on someone.

[Boonskiies]

Why should I care if he's in quickhammer range? He's scum with you. I want him to be lynched. Also, Antihero hasn't been putting me in the scumpile in a while now. Reason I wasn't doing much this game is because it's my first theme game, and it's a lot different than the mini normals that I'm used to. It was harder to keep up with. I made sure to come in and keep up. I even posted about my inventions and the like. I've actually been a major part of this game, even if I wasn't the one talking, most of this game's conversation has been directly based off of me.

[Boonskiies]

Plus, we all know I'm a lazy village idiot. Should be more worried if I'm

not

being stupid and making lazy mistakes/excuses.

False, the entire early game. I enjoy the fact that that was the only spot you replied to. Running out of steam/reasons to get a mislynch on me? Seems like it.

I didn't post much, but I posted often. I wouldn't say I lurked.

[Boonskiies]

I have figured out the game. I don't get what your point is.

[Boonskiies]

And let's be honest...if we asked someone if I was deluded, what would their answer be?

[Boonskiies]

Just a quick glancing through my ISO...I totally have been contributing...not very much, but how is that any different from any of my other games? I'm just not posting as often as I have in my other games. That's not scummy for me. If anything, it's more townlike.

Spoiler:

post 372, istott"]

I dont even know what to say. Nothing of use has come from you. An obvious lurker, but apart from that, I don't know.
Read: 4 or 5. The lurking is Anti-town, but

isn't scum-indicative.

[/quote]

This post was just going to say that because I have so much to do, I need to semi-start my VLA now, but when I saw Boonskies post, I couldn't not VOTE: boonskies.

What exactly about the post did you find reasonable enough to be unable to resist voting? it's nothing different than what you had said wasn't alignment-indicative. Also, a lot of the questions you tend to be asking are confirmation on what had been said. Another thing, a lot of your posts tend to be 'I don't have anything to add right now! I'm keeping up on the thread, but I'm unable to think of anything. Derp. Derp. Derp. You got into a mini heated argument, and as soon as it started heating up, you wanted to pull away, as you were about to be in the spotlight. I don't like. Any of this. The way you jumped on GreyIce's (GreyIce, the guy who always votes me without much reason in every game I'm in with him) vote immediately after expecting an easy PL was downright bleh. Did you expect people to jump on it easily while you were gone?


VOTE: Istott[/quote]

I'm back! I'll be making a bunch of posts now.

I've been really

horrible

lately, guys. I apologize for not being able to post. Been busy. I'll catch up within the

next few days.

This was why I voted you. I know now i was probably wrong, but it gave me the feeling that you weren't making an effort. Had you not said "next few days", I would not have voted you.

This is exactly what drew me to vote you in the first place. You aren't going through with anything. Any vote you do, you will easily back off if it doesn't seem like it's going to go through, and you don't even try to push for it. It's an easy way to make it look like you are doing something without drawing attention to yourself.

Is there any particular reason for a Boon lynch outside of policy?

I've played with him before and read games he was in, and I don't think I've ever seen him be very useful in a game regardless of alignment.

My early game is horrendous, that's why. I always step it up shortly after. Must have been reading/playing in my early games on the site...yikes.

I don't think Ankamius is scum. I don't think he would be opposing my lynch if he was. Too easy to mislynch me without repercussions at this point.

Fuck. Dr Horrible. Town Inventor. I've been crumbing Horrible this whole game. Don't vote me. I'll take the Night Kill.

Yeah. First theme game, my day 1's suck in general, and overtook way too much in real life. This game has suffered the most from that. I totally agree with me almost getting PL.

Yeah, the tone I meant it to be in was me trying to make it obvious I did something.

I gave Lightning Rod to Anatole last night.

I'm pretty sure I redirected the kill from me to AK. I didn't think that was going to happen at the time. I was town reading AK, and I thought maybe it would make AK like the Lightning Rod role for the night.

I thought it just act as a lightning rod role. Just village idiot, not scum.

Well, I knew lightning rod redirected everything towards, but I thought it would stop any deaths from happening. I've only seen Lightning Rod ability once, and it was in F2F at the Titus meet, and that's how it worked in the game there.

so you DID know what it would do

BUT NO YOU DON'T KNOW

you're a bad liar, boonskiies

read the god damn post. god damn ignorance. I thought that no kill would happen if one were to happen.

I believe AP and Cabd were in my game in F2F when there was a lightning rod at the Titus meet, and that's what it did there.

I would have been the NK of last night anyways, and I highly doubt scum will allow me to use my other inventions either, so me being lynched toDay, or night killed toNight, either way this is my last day in the game. So just lynch Medea for me tomorrow.

I listened to that Dr. Horrible soundtrack video 5 times before moving on.

Aww, man....that's Horrible. I hated being a llama!

I watched my freeze ray video on vote count.

@AA9 - Why would I act upon your pressure vote? I really don't care to defend myself, as I am

HORRIBLE

at defending myself, both as town and scum, so I just don't. Sure, I'll try to persuade others to not vote me on occasion, and sometimes even have a freakout, but usually I won't defend myself much unless I think someone misunderstood me. As for the lurking part making me scum, I'm usually more active as scum because I become more interested in the game. I am active elsewhere because it's easier to stay caught up in some games than others, and I usually only check on my phone, and post from there.

I've been really

horrible

lately, guys. I apologize for not being able to post. Been busy. I'll catch up within the next few days.

I kind of like it. I agree with most of it. I don't agree with the Regfan read though.

Yeah. I gave my [_____] ray to Medea. He was one of my harder to read people from the previous days, and I wanted to see how he'd react to it. I have started to town read him because of his immediate response of immediately assuming I'm confirmed town, which I don't believe 'confirms' me of anything. But from his point of view, I understand it.

Eh, I wasn't aware exactly what it would do, Medea. I kind of thought I was on my way out last night, so might as well give one of my harder to read people something. I did think there was a possibility that I would kill you, also, but I wasn't sure exactly what it would do.

Questions for you:

1: Are your abilities all actions that give an ability to a target, all one shot abilities, a mixture, or do you not know? If one of the first 3, were you told in your pm? If the third option, what is the flavour reason for having a mix?

Someone is killing people off...one by one. My job is to find out who it is! I pretty much built these tools to help. I only get to use each once. I don't know when they'll be activated either.

2a: If the first option, why didnt you mention this when you said you gave the lightning rod to anatole?

I thought I said it.

2b: If the second, why is medea not dead?

The ray I gave him worked with a different mechanic as the lightning rod did. I'm happy he didn't die now; I started to town read him.

2c: If the third, how have you factored not knowing into your choice of target, given that (If your town-reading Medea) you could have either given a kill to a townread or downright killed them?

He was null for me; if he died, he died. Oh well, a null read out of the way for me. If not, I felt like I would read him better, which I have.

2d: If the fourth, why havent you mentioned that you didnt know? Why base your night 1 action on the thinking that you had 1-shots, but for some reason, base your N2 action on the thinking you gave 1-shots?

I thought all inventors were 1 shot with their inventions. Didn't think I'd have to say it.

3: Why would you give a kill to Medea, given that your last D2 post about them was voting them?

Previous questions.

4: This is an extremely important question. Why the heck did you not give the kill to serrapaladin, a CONFIRMED TOWN?

I didn't know Serra was confirmed town. Explain to me what happened? I missed it.

5: If you believe your abilities are a mix of 1-shots and 1-shot givers, how do you think each of your inventions work? What you say here better make sense with your next actions.

not sure anymore. the deflector role probably takes place the next night, and given to someone. don't know what mind link does. and the second ray probably gives a 1 shot role block.

that's where I'm standing right now. Also, Eyestott mentioned that the death ray could be faulty. I know nothing of this, but he mentioned it before Medea says it didn't work. That's a case where I could see a scum Medea being an opportunist.
to
Actually, Medea could have faked the ability of what the Death Ray did from the beginning. It says Death Ray; him saying that the death ray gives him a dayvig shot makes sense. He pulled off a genuine response to the gun being faulty, but it happened to be after Eyestott did this. I'm actually beginning to think the Death Ray gives him some kind of ability for the next night. That being said, he could get away with it by claiming he had a dayvig shot, and that it was faulty. If this turns out to be true, I could actually see an Eyestott/Medea scum team, and Eyestott set Medea up for the faulty gun line. Eyestott could be a coincidence that Medea became opportunistic to.

Eyestott has also been wanting to lynch me for quite some time now, which makes sense as scum because I am a seemingly easy lynch that any consequences or repercussions are easily avoidable due to me being me.

Suffice to say, my reads list has changed...

VOTE: Medea

Eyestott voting me as scum buddies with Medea also seemingly gives Eyestott town cred for distancing himself from Medea. Eyestott wanted me to give him my mind link in the night, to stop whatever ability I would give to someone else, and Eyestott would then end up getting an ability. That or he was setting me up so he could lie and say that he didn't actually get the invention. Either way, I'm debating moving my vote over to Eyestott instead of Medea. I believe they are the scum team as of right now.

I'm really not paying much attention to this game, Eyestott. I usually do mini normals, and mini theme is just making my mind go waaazzzggagagahhahhahahahaaaaa. I don't even remember the beginning of this game.

Besides the point, Antihero has been the main person i want to lynch all game. Why the fuck wouldn't I lynch him if he's the biggest wagon not named Boon. Go ahead and fucking lynch me. I stopped caring.

[Boonskiies]

Plus, we all know I'm a lazy village idiot. Should be more worried if I'm

not

being stupid and making lazy mistakes/excuses.

False, the entire early game. I enjoy the fact that that was the only spot you replied to. Running out of steam/reasons to get a mislynch on me? Seems like it.

I didn't post much, but I posted often. I wouldn't say I lurked.

You clearly don't view yourself as a village idiot so let's not play that defense.

You're right. I don't. But I completely understand why people think I am, and I do get lazy and make legitimate VI actions.

[Boonskiies]

Also, you're just picking off little details from my posts. I don't know how you're still alive being this scummy.

[Boonskiies]

I mean, yeah, of course you are going to join in on Jesus's side. Scum buddies in mylo. I'm the easiest one to mislynch. Defend your buddy more.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't think they were scummy all along. I didn't think you were either.

[Boonskiies]

Anti, you have no reason to unvote him as town. Jesu is literally like...the only possibility to be scum. Unless you are his scum buddy, there was no reason to unvote. If F-16 was town or if he was scum with someone besides Jesus, he wouldn't have defended Jesus right there. They are both scum!

[Boonskiies]

Going after me and choosing not to acknowledge Jesus in that 1v1 sense is basically defending him. And now, you're trying to buddy up with Anti. If you needed 'help' figuring this out as town, Anti would not be the person you would ask. You would ask Serra or MS, the basically confirmed town people, not one of the people who have a chance at being scum. You're trying to get Anti on yours and Jesus' side so you can get a mislynch on me.

[Boonskiies]

Will you please read? I've commented on the last page that I understand why he's conftown. And I said acknowledge him in that 1v1 sense.

[Boonskiies]

Re: #4234: When you are scum, you are less confident and thus you post more...? What?

Odd, but true. Antihero wrote in a dead thread of one of my scum games without knowing I was scum, "if Boonskiies is scum, I will nominate him for a scummy, because that is the best fake confusion I have ever seen."

Whereas my town game, I tend to hard hard hard tunnel, and am overly confident that I am right with my reads. (when I tunnel, I'm usually spot on with scum, or vaguely close.)

[Boonskiies]

The fact that your are able to even see all these little things shows you are scum. You see them because you are scum. My reasoning isn't great at all for why you are scum, and I am spot on with my scum reads, which is why you need to even bring up these little small details. There's a reason that it's you and F-16 trying to discredit me.

[Boonskiies]

Doesn't change the fact that you are scum.

[Boonskiies]

Nope, just toDay. You were WK'ing me earlier.

[Boonskiies]

You started as soon as I started scum reading you. You felt the pressure you were going to be lynched and decided to target the easiest mislynch. ME!!

[Boonskiies]

I'm unsure what you are trying to accomplish by arguing against me, really. You aren't trying to convince anyone that I'm scum, or convince anyone that you aren't scum.

[Boonskiies]

I feel that's pretty scummy of you.

[Boonskiies]

Anti, you have no reason to unvote him as town. Jesu is literally like...the only possibility to be scum. Unless you are his scum buddy, there was no reason to unvote. If F-16 was town or if he was scum with someone besides Jesus, he wouldn't have defended Jesus right there. They are both scum!

yes because you haven't been scummy at all today!!

That's what I've been saying all along!!! I'm so obv town. I've been so obv town since day 1. Night 1 scum totally targeted me for the NK, but I saved myself with the lightning rod, and that's when scum realized they could probably eventually mislynch me.

[Boonskiies]

I have plenty of scummy behaviors...doesn't mean that I am scum.

[Boonskiies]

Anti, you have no reason to unvote him as town. Jesu is literally like...the only possibility to be scum. Unless you are his scum buddy, there was no reason to unvote. If F-16 was town or if he was scum with someone besides Jesus, he wouldn't have defended Jesus right there. They are both scum!

yes because you haven't been scummy at all today!!

That's what I've been saying all along!!! I'm so obv town. I've been so obv town since day 1. Night 1 scum totally targeted me for the NK, but I saved myself with the lightning rod, and that's when scum realized they could probably eventually mislynch me.

yep!

Scum slip! Agrees, yet is voting me. SCUM. Lynch it!

[Boonskiies]

Well, better open up a window, because it's true! I AM ALL TOWN, BABBBBBYYYYY!!!!

[Boonskiies]

Town!eye hearing scum is going to win could also have happened, though.

[Boonskiies]

It's probably best Serra doesn't actually.

[Boonskiies]

Totally willing to vote F-16 today. When he flips scum, it's obvi Jesu is also.

[Boonskiies]

L, the conf towns are all voting different people...

[Boonskiies]

As conf town as you.

A thing on Metal Sonic. You need to use that mind link toNight. I'm slightly paranoid that it isn't actually a neighborizing thing. Use it on Serra or myself so we can see if Stott lied about it. If it's not used on one of us, I'm going to figure it was a ploy and most likely completely change my read of conf town on you. But that should be a very reasonable request, anyways.

Anywho, yeah, I can prove I'm conf town tomorrow after we bit scum. I'd like to not talk about it, for night action reasonings.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not going to vote Anti toDay.

[Boonskiies]

Just a strange tidbit, unless MS is scum, I haven't given an invention to a single scum. Fantastic. I'm betting I've given all mine to town, and if I had to choose, i'd give the next one to Anti. Probably would be town. F-16 and Jesu are scum.

[Boonskiies]

Yes. That's solid logic, right? Haha.

[Boonskiies]

Have we done a mass flavor claim? We should.

Obviously, I'm Doctor Horrible. Claimed that Day 1.

[Boonskiies]

Hmm.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: F-16

[Boonskiies]

Metal, did you use the mind link?

[Boonskiies]

Serra, what did you do last night?

[Boonskiies]

i could lynch anti. And then if we're wrong we just lynch Jesu tomorrow?

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Jesus

I don't think it's Anti...

[Boonskiies]

Ugh...that Vig shot on Metal Sonic makes me nervous. If, theoretically, Metal Sonic was scum, and got a vigilante shot, would that give him two kills for a night? Because if so, MS would win the game toNight as scum.

[Boonskiies]

I didn't know the ability of each item before giving them. I was unaware what they would do. All I knew was the name. But that answer of yours made me feel better about it.

[Boonskiies]

Eh...don't see why not.

VOTE: Antihero

[Boonskiies]

I got night killed!!! Finally!!!!! Haha.

[Boonskiies]

Sorry for my dumb Night 1 move, Anatole...haha. For some reason I thought I was protecting you.

[Boonskiies]

If I even actually did anything...