Meh, Id probably be a good Deputy director, I dont want to be the head Director, too much power, and everyone will blame me if somehting goes wrong :pGuardian wrote:
Also, no one really answered my thoughts about how having an easier to read and more likely to work with the town director is safer. I see myself, YB, UA, and possibly some other people as more likely to do that than Ctd, Yos, and Cdb.
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True, but if you actually watch the show, the director usually ends up dead or fired. (Tony, Bill, Milo claiming to be director)Xdaamno wrote:
This sounds a little bit off to me. If the director dies, you're going to take that responsibility and still be blamed if anything goes wrong. The responsibilities are (almost) just as important, but they come at different times in the game.YogurtBandit wrote:
Meh, Id probably be a good Deputy director, I dont want to be the head Director, too much power, and everyone will blame me if somehting goes wrong :pGuardian wrote:
Also, no one really answered my thoughts about how having an easier to read and more likely to work with the town director is safer. I see myself, YB, UA, and possibly some other people as more likely to do that than Ctd, Yos, and Cdb.
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Uh. O.O Maybe Id be better off as a Liason or a Field Agent.Xdaamno wrote:True, but if you actually watch the show, the director usually ends up dead or fired. (Tony, Bill, Milo claiming to be director)
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Pooky wrote:Field Agents are the bread and butter of CTU. They can be sent outside for field operations such as assassination, abduction, or planting tracking devices/bugs on high priority targets when Jack Bauer is unable to perform these duties. They may also investigate target sites, or perform bodyguard duties for members of the CTU staff.(Bodyguard duty means that if the player would've died, he instead becomesMod: What does he instead become?[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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A military strike sounds intriguing, a way to stop the terrorists.Pooky wrote:NSA: Signals Intelligence, Satellite Recon(Domestic), Military Strike on US Soil, the NSA can help provide aid by intercepting messages, providing Satellite Recon in order to help infiltrate/invade a location or the location of terrorist suspects or launch a military strike with special field teams on US soil.
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I hate those two paragraphs. The first is speculating kill targets, which may mean you are thinking out lud while making it look good. It also has an air of scuminess too it, Theres no doubt about that.Yosarian2 wrote:Guardian wrote: I don't think newer players are more likely to work with town, just easier to read if they slip up as scum. My sentence was confusing.
I do agree that we need someone competent as director, but again, I greatly fear us getting a very competent scum director who with strategic role assignments wins the game for the scum.
Also, what roles look like they are most likely kill targets? Crypto? Director? Whatever the case is, we don't want to put experienced people there, as it would give scum even more incentive to kill off better town players.
Yos, yes I know 1 hour = 3 life days. Pooky said this in the queue, I got it...
We can start with less crypto because we will probably be getting less crypto info in the beginning; we could have two extra liaisons doing tasks for the first few hours and then switch them to crypto.
And Yos, we may disagree on who is easy to read/not, but what in and of itself is fishy about putting someone easy to read as director and lynching them if they seem scummy? We definitely don't want a scum director, so...
As for kill targets, I'd say the #1 target is usually going to be the "counter-intellegence" cop, especally a cop who's halfway done a 4 hour investigation. The #2 target is probably either the director or a crypto with information. I don't know if that would encourage the scum to kill good players, though, as those are also the people most likely to get field agent bodyguards.
And btw, as I think about it, I agree CTD's idea that we should make suspicious looking players or lurky players into field agents; with the bodyguard thing, we basically want the field agents to be...(cough)...expendable.
The last sentence, is basically putting people at death. Of course, it will protect Crptyos and Directors, but still. Expendable? Sounds like an easy death for the terrorists. The last thing we want is for 3 Agents to go down in the first 12 Hours. With Lynches, Mafia kills are 3, and Lynches are 4, So we could have 7 deaths in the first 12 hours. Which could possibly mean horror and terror for CTU. Assign most to Liason, its a role that cant do too much dangeR (aside from NSA)[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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Eh, Seems like a cool position to be in.Guardian is like, cool. I mean, I'd know if he was scum, and he's not scum. I can just tell. We're cool like that. For real. 8)CrashTextDummie wrote: YogurtBandit - You're pushing hard to be a Liason. Care to explain why? Also, what makes you think Guardian's the right choice for Director?[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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I seriously think you all should stop buggin Korran about this. I mean hes sort of new, And hes just trying to pick a familiar face. Yeah Korran could be scum but Its not likely.Korran wrote:All I did is vote for him because he was the only one I sort of knew.I don't know who is the best to be director.to me it could be anyone.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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Well, Yeah, but still, you dont pin someone as scum because theyre new.Xdaamno wrote:
'He's sort of new' isn't a good enough excuse, really.YogurtBandit wrote:
I seriously think you all should stop buggin Korran about this. I mean hes sort of new, And hes just trying to pick a familiar face. Yeah Korran could be scum but Its not likely.Korran wrote:All I did is vote for him because he was the only one I sort of knew.I don't know who is the best to be director.to me it could be anyone.
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Dictator? I assume you mean director.Yosarian2 wrote:
Agreed; I'm kind of wondering if Guardian is trying to cast suspicion on the other candidates for dictator just to help himself get elected.CrashTextDummie wrote: You know, Guardian, I have difficulty following your line of thinking. Earlier you said that you find both Yosarian andyourselfscummy for trying to be director, which is an incredibly twisted way of looking at things. You say you are pro-town, so you of all people should be able to recognize the motivation of a pro-town player to become director.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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CrashTextDummie wrote:
1. What do you think the most important role (besides Director) is?
Counter Intellegince, We definetly dont want to place scum in there.
2. Which player would you like to see in that position?
Guardian.
3. Which player do you trust least?
Not sure, Probably the lurking ones.
4. What role, if any, would you like assigned to that player?
Field agent Bodyguards.
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Actually, White House can't do anything, and That's wasting a position there. I dont know if there are any others, but You're wasting a posistion puttind someone on White House.Guardian wrote:
Well, I think both are good for people you trust, but I think the SIA is better for lest trustworthy people because all they do is get code results of text players send the mod. I trust YB, but many players don't, and I think that White House is a good intermediate level of trust; you need someone you trust to relay the intel, but there is not much you can do at the White House position that would really hose the town if you happen to be scum.Off the Mark wrote:
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I would put the White House Liason as a CIA? Liason (Central intelligence, Not Counter) Because as I aforementioned,White House cant do anything.UltimaAvalon wrote:
I didn't say that. Heck, IAlbert wrote:Translation of the above:
Get replaced or get bent.wantto see Korran stay and get better at this, cus thats what this is all about. All he needs to do is change his attitude and make posts that actually contribute something, thats all.
This is the way I see the set-up, and I'm not saying who I would be put in these places, because I've only had 2 days while yall have had a week+. Also, this assumes that Positions are not given publicly, as I never got an answer on that
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Liaison(FBI)
Liaison(NSA)
Created to try and balance between helping us and helping Jack Bauer, cus let's face it. Scum have more opportunities to win than Town. In order to win Town has to kill all the terrorists or have Jack disarm the bomb, while Scum have to kill Town, Kill Jack, or wait for the bomb to go off. We don't know when and how Jack Bauer will need our help, so its good to be balanced in the beginning. I'll listen to critiques of this plan before considering who should go in what position.[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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Hmm, I like that one much better.Off the Mark wrote:Looking over the setup again... we may do more harm than good if we put suspicious players in the liaison positions. I think we might want to just fill FBI and leave the others vacant at the start of the game until it becomes obvious that Jack needs more help. Putting bad guys in liaison positions might screw over the Jack Bauer part of the game very quickly. We may do better if we maximize our scum-finding capabilities in the early game. So what about this setup: (modified from UA's)
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True, But still, 2 at least is better than one.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
And how will you ensure the safety of the data ?YogurtBandit wrote:
If there is multiple amounts of encrptyed Data.Albert B. Rampage wrote:You can only send encrypted data to one crypto, why would you have 3 cryptos ?[color=red]├é┬Ñ├é┬░gůřť├â┼©├â┬Ñň├â-
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Field Agents are the bread and butter of CTU. They can be sent outside for field operations such as assassination, abduction, or planting tracking devices/bugs on high priority targets when Jack Bauer is unable to perform these duties. They may also investigate target sites, or perform bodyguard duties for members of the CTU staff.(Bodyguard duty means that if the player would've died, his bodyguard dies instead)
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You think He's scum but put him at a high postision? Either Thats Scum distancing, Or Framing somone, or Just Plain dumb.Yosarian2 wrote:
Sorry you're going to be out of town, Guardian, but I don't think I can afford to let someone I think is scum hang around until hour, what, 3 or 4? just because you're out of town.Guardian wrote:Eh, w/e, just don't lynch me while I'm gone.
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Yosarian2 wrote:Well, that's worrying...
I was just told by the mod that someone here at CTU just tried to hack into the director's personal computer, and specifically into the director's e-mail and personell file. I'm not sure what that means; whatever they were trying to do, it apparenlty wasn't sucessfull this time.
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