Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

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/confirm

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I forgot to add in 8

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VOTE: shos
As they were the 8th next to post

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This is going nowhere. I've been waiting for a day for a reason to post and I got nothing.
Random vote will stick where it is till I see a good reason to move it

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Alright I'm gonna cut it because experience shows that me trolling RVS for reactions may actually get me quickhammered, (lol beck).

Sooooo I've kinda wifomed myself about something (seriously) and I'm still trying to figure that wifom out, so I won't be talking about this yet, but on page 9, remind me to check it again, ok? <to all>


BBT: explain to me how his confirmation post was in any way wierd?

Trying to make any comments about the game.
This post is weird. Is it weird to others too. Like someone trying too hard and going "ooh, don't mind me, I'm just wacky"

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This is going nowhere. I've been waiting for a day for a reason to post and I got nothing.
Random vote will stick where it is till I see a good reason to move it

Another person complaining nothing is happening but doing nothing to progress the game at the same time.

What exactly was you expecting to happen to allow you to post?

No idea really. I find day 1s really hard as I hate moving votes without a great reason. I was just hoping someone to have done something scummy was all...

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Geraintm

Spoiler:

post 16

Giving his formula for RVS vote. Safe way to vote.

post 26

Shos got the post.

post 100

Says he doesn't have reads, but is willing to keep his vote on the largest wagon. Why not unvote?

Nothing much, don't like the last post though.

I didn't even realise it was the largest wagon. But voting for someone is better than not voting so why not just keep it there.

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Double trouble, any chance you can have an icon on your profile just so I can track you easier.

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VOTE: double trouble

Going to try and catch up with the game now, will likely post a whole bunch of random thoughts now. Mostly as notes for myself for later when people start doing more scummish stuff.
With shos, this vote confused me as it looked like it came from nowhere.

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Desperado, not much again to say except I like them defendingme.

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Gray fox - like their post 192 and 199 pick up similar thought to mine on the awkward shos vote.

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Beck, toffee and perfect chaos I have no strong thoughts on any of them. All meh

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The ace of spades - no matter what you think of egg's claim,there is no way they are getting lynched today and so applying a vote is pointless. Once they have made the claim you have to let themselves ru with it for a night. Objection can be raised but voting against them isn't going to go anywhere.

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Aronis I like. Defending me is always good but apart from that I dont know anything about Titus for the double trouble vote.

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Dr pants. I like the effort they are putting in. There isn't much to actual analyse in the game but I will not be voting for them today as I am looking forward to their input tomorrow.

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Egg: I want to find scum just I am pretty bad at doing it day one. (And day two as well) . Being honest. I don't have a power role like some people....

Egg playing some odd cop gambit I am not familiar with?

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And we hit a record...17 games in a row someone does a day one train...

I've yet to have a forum scum game ever. New nickname: Eternal Townie. *sigh*

-- Double

Off topic: Avatar is up.

This I find as odd as eggs claim.
But their later posts mean I am not going to be voting for them day one either.

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No real thoughts on prolapsed either.
There are a bunch of people I am not going to vote for today.
Double trouble, egg, Dr pants, aronis,

Shos is the person I find worst today so far, and ace of spades is less town than most.

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So basically other than Pants, your town reads are the two claims and the person who called you town?

Your reasons for scum reads are kind of meh too...

Yep. All pretty meh. What else do you expect. No obviously scummy votes, we haven't had any weird wagons form to make anyone look suspicious.

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The ace of spades - no matter what you think of egg's claim,there is no way they are getting lynched today and so applying a vote is pointless. Once they have made the claim you have to let themselves ru with it for a night. Objection can be raised but voting against them isn't going to go anywhere.

And that's the thing I

hate

about Day One claims. Scum can do it, if they're reasonably sure they won't be CCed, and they get a free pass.... for several Days if they happen to get lucky. Hate it.

Very tempted to move my vote to Egg, but as said above, pointless.

Oh, I agree that people with day one claims will get a free pass. But there is no way they get a free pass to the end of the game without close scrutiny so I don't mind too much.
But your know, even if you disagree with the merits of a da one claim, you know you aren't going to get half the town to vote with you so it is just a wasted vote for today.

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Why is calling you town a town tell?

It isnt

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Ger's analysis of me is neat, lol. That vote was indeed fake.
Other than that though,nothing to eat.

I mean in bbts 56-85 yhoughts.

Neat? Neat? Is this a madonna/Kevin Costner thing?

I have no idea what a fake vote is. Except something I dislike.

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it means that the vote was not honest, it was there for a purpose, and you saw it.

Then this is just crappy. Why on earth would someone townie put in a deliberately confusing vote? All it is going to do is draw attention to you.
VOTE: shos

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it means that the vote was not honest, it was there for a purpose, and you saw it.

Then this is just crappy. Why on earth would someone townie put in a deliberately confusing vote? All it is going to do is draw attention to you.
VOTE: shos

You been on site since 2006 and you seriously making that post?

Not sure what you are getting at. I called someone out for being untownish, he admitted it, still think he looks bad.

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I could vote him but it would be on the premise that he is lurking and I don't feel comfortable with that at this early stage. Sure, if his behaviour continues and nothing improves in terms of his posting frequency and the content of his posts, I'll gladly jump on that wagon.

This post, when compared to his 333 and his reasons for voting aronis, just make me want to stick a badge on his lapel with hypocrite written on it or something....

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this early stage?

you realize this game has been going on longer than we have days left in the day phase right? How long are you going to be content with letting a scummy player lurk?

No, I didn't realise that. The small number of pages must have threw me off, I thought we were only 4 or 5 days in.

This is a quiet D1.

OK, time for some pressure.

VOTE: PB

Wait, the guy who 2 posts above is voting for someone for poorly times votes and hopping onto bandwagons does this...?

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because it is both a sheep, and a bad question reactions, and a horrible reason to vote a person, and a silent jump on a rising wagon.

No comment then on the toffeeman joining onto a rising wagon after beck basically egged him to doing it?
Double standards....

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it means that the vote was not honest, it was there for a purpose, and you saw it.

Then this is just crappy. Why on earth would someone townie put in a deliberately confusing vote? All it is going to do is draw attention to you.
VOTE: shos

You been on site since 2006 and you seriously making that post?

Not sure what you are getting at. I called someone out for being untownish, he admitted it, still think he looks bad.

I said it wasn't a real vote. it was fishing for reactions. just like your reaction. get it now?
I can't help but wonder if you're pretending or not, because again, your joindate is 2006.

because it is both a sheep, and a bad question reactions, and a horrible reason to vote a person, and a silent jump on a rising wagon.

No comment then on the toffeeman joining onto a rising wagon after beck basically egged him to doing it?
Double standards....

well I can't vote two peeps. one by one.

I started in 2006 but had a huge gap in the middle. I play one game at a time. I am not high level player or anything. Things others think are obvious I just wont

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Aronis isn't going to get lynched today. There is zero momentum and plenty of people are posting they think it is a bad idea. I agree, aronis is the last person I would vote for in this game.
I cannot believe then that there isn't scum somewhere in the votes for aronis column. I am happy with my vote on shos

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I agree, aronis is the last person I would vote for in this game.

This is interesting. He is the

last

person you're willing to vote.

Why is your town-read so strong on him?

Hyperbole.
Like his posts and the wagon on him I hate.
Just not going to lynch him

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Unvote, Vote Prolapsed

for deadline.

Are we getting nothing else from you the rest of today?

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Why is BBT the best of the available options?

Why are you not more concerned about him wanting you dead most?

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Because the prolapsed wagon sucks shit and I townread Pants hard.

~DT

Why does it suck shit? What has he done to help town? To find scum? To do anything remotely close to appear town?

I'll wait, cause there's no way you can show him doing any of those things... Cause he hasn't

He is very under the radar. Barely above water.
He isn't being bad though and looking to lynch anyone for scummy reasons.
Pretty null to me

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Shos, Pants is probably not a viable lynch today.

Can you join the PB wagon? Secondary choice is Aronis.

They both look like good wagons for toDay.

I can see shos getting lynched.
Aronis is not a good choice.

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none of the wagons seem very viable yet, 3 votes on them at max. this sucks ass and balls though. can you give me the short version of why PB is actaully scum, apart from lurking and a bad first post?

Do you see anything pro-town about him? Lurking, awkward conf. post and very little content when he does decide to post.

All point towards scum, amirite?

There is very little pro town from anyone in this game today.
Like, I am guessing the bad attempts at lynches are partly bad play from try hard townies and scum. But I have no info to decide which is which. Tomorrow will make things clearer...

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Anyone voting a usrless wagon (lol there is oneon BBT?) like me, bbt, aronis etc should vote either PB or Pants, otherwise you are wasting your vote and we may NL

Prolapsed Brain (3): Beck, BlueBloodedToffee, Egg
Shos (2): geraintm, GrayFoxxxx
DoubleTrouble (1): Prolapsed Brain
BlueBloodedToffee (3): DrPants, Aronis, Double Trouble

Aronis

(3): Desperado, theaceofspades,

shos

theaceofspades (1): Perfect Chaos

yeah that aronis wagon sure was useless, better lynch those scummy players who pushed it

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shos

Like this post. It somehow arrives when I have been for a while...

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and yet, you're voting a hopeless and reasonless wagon. come on, join my quickwagon on dryfit.

Dry Fit?

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Because the prolapsed wagon sucks shit and I townread Pants hard.

~DT

Why does it suck shit? What has he done to help town? To find scum? To do anything remotely close to appear town?

I'll wait, cause there's no way you can show him doing any of those things... Cause he hasn't

He is very under the radar. Barely above water.
He isn't being bad though and looking to lynch anyone for scummy reasons.
Pretty null to me

Don't answer questions for other people, thank you

Scum points for you now

Sorry, I was going through posts and commenting where I saw fit. If I had just written my thoughts on them without quoting your post, would that have been ok?

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Why is BBT the best of the available options?

Why are you not more concerned about him wanting you dead most?

This is probably one of the dumbest questions anyone has ever asked me.

Why?

I told people I was dumb at this game...

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If you are town, then you should want to be dead.

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Edit. Should never want to be dead

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Late to the party.
I wouldn't havevoted for Dr pants. I didn't see anything scummy in their posts and the people they disliked, I also disliked.

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I dislike both of the votes so far. Dislike the people making them.
That wagon yesterday was fishy as anything.

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No, I really don't.

Y es you do. Explain your vote on aronis.

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I dislike both of the votes so far. Dislike the people making them.
That wagon yesterday was fishy as anything.

Isn't hindsight wonderful?

How about you stop making vague comments and actually provide some content? Sound good?

Why was it fishy? What didn't you like? Who on the wagon looks like scum to you?

Are you town-reading PB and Aronis?

Pretty sure I said yesterday it was a bad wagon and I would never have been on it.
Wondering what desperado is going to say about aronis. Because he really needs to explain himself

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Aronis was scum yesterday, hes still scum today.

Wasn't scum then. Still isn't scum today.

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Pretty sure I said yesterday it was a bad wagon and I would never have been on it.
Wondering what desperado is going to say about aronis. Because he really needs to explain himself

You sure did. Yet another vague statement giving no clue to what you're actually thinking.

Is that all you're going to reply to from that post?

I had no info on him yesterday. But it seemed to me a terrible wagon, I couslnt get any understanding why people were. Pushing it. Yep that's vague I agree.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

Looking forward to seeing Aronis swing

So you don't actually have a read on BBT?

What about Shos and Aronis?

Vote: Aronis

Yes I know, drawing scum sucks. Better luck next time!

Aronis was scum yesterday, hes still scum today.

This is all I can find on desperado's case on aronis.
It sucks beyond belief, and his refusal to explain himself stinks

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I may go back to PB at some point, especially if he decides to lurk through another day phase. If PB is town though he can literally [redacted]

I like my vote because gerain basically did nothing day 1 but put a vote on shos for terrible reasoning and basically criticized people for being on the other wagon ideas. That doesn't come from town imo. Not to mention he was on egg's radar and egg bit the dust. I don't think he was killed because he was a universal town read like was suggested, I feel like he was probably closer to being right about the scum team.

so i'm good with my vote, unless he somehow convinces me he is playing towards a town win condition and dazzles me with some scum hunting, i'm content on parking here for now

I criticised people on the aronis wagon and Dr pants wagons. As these were/are bad wagons, I see no reason to apologise for pointing out people shouldn't be voting for them.

With egg, it doesn't matter if he was town read by people or not, just his play I think set him up as a target.

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Only going to quickly post as visiting mother in laws.
I am not quiet sure what happened with double trouble. I can't see anyone coming out of it as 100% scum though.

The wagon on aronis needs to stop though.
It really does

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Aronis jumped in desp after someone had claimed to have a result on them. To be honest, I would have too if I had been around.
Then once the claim got back tracked, toffee jumps on aronis for being oppotunistic.

Shos makes some case against aronis, I don't mind this post.
Ace jumps easily onto aronis.

Aces three votes in this game have all been on townies...

VOTE: theaceofspades

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Where is the certainty on Desp coming from? You ran a gambit that provided nothing, and instead of backing away from your target you are doubling down and going for broke.

I appreciate this post being in theme

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Only going to quickly post as visiting mother in laws.
I am not quiet sure what happened with double trouble. I can't see anyone coming out of it as 100% scum though.

The wagon on aronis needs to stop though.
It really does

Nobody listen to this man until he provides a good reason why the aronis wagon is bad.

Ill expect responses to my questions when you return home

still visiting relatives. will try and catch up as much as I can. this is going to be a wall of posts, sorry if people hate that.

the wagon on aronis is bad as it will flip town if he is lynched.

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Aronis jumped in desp after someone had claimed to have a result on them. To be honest, I would have too if I had been around.
Then once the claim got back tracked, toffee jumps on aronis for being oppotunistic.

Shos makes some case against aronis, I don't mind this post.
Ace jumps easily onto aronis.

Aces three votes in this game have all been on townies...

VOTE: theaceofspades

Umm, why are you so sure that PB/Nati and Aronis are town?

think I missed the PB vote as I was going through, but he had voted for egg, dr pants and aronis. I cannot comment on PB's alignment.
wish mod had the first post correct with everyone who is dead properly dead, makes things easier.

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[quote="In post 203, theaceofspades"]

As of now i see Fox and Aronis as probably town.

quote]
not quiet from the beginning...
but for a fair portion of yesterday you did indeed not like aronis. for vote hoping. which you are equally guilty of.

your jumping to aronis easily was about today.
you are voting for too many townies across the course of the game.

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think I missed the PB vote as I was going through, but he had voted for egg, dr pants and aronis. I cannot comment on PB's alignment.

Why can you not comment on

PB

Nati's alignment?

because I don't know what their alignment is.

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yeah, pretty much. there wasn't very much content from the slot day one (just a couple of posts on people claiming day one that seem fine)
so far today Natishra hasn't posted a vast amount. their vote on me I was confused by, but since the weirdness started with double trouble I am confused by many things in the game.

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Ok, this is clearly getting distracting to the progress of the game.

I was assured by mod before day one began that aronis was town.

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By what means?

By him telling me

[geraintm]

The Mod explicitly told you that Aronis was town?

Yes

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If they're actually masons, they have to be NKd before endgame, so we are not lynching them day 2. That's dumb.

Catching up.
You mean o ly one needs to be killed, right?

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@Geraint/Aronis, I don't think you had to claim there, like, at all.

@Nati, still waiting for your reads. You could also try contributing something that's useful, that would be nice.

@Shos, I was thinking along those lines for a second because the timing of that claim is so strange. For now though, we should just leave it be.

I need to re-evaluate my reads from the Pants wagon in light of Aronis being *confirmed town*, one of my Desp/Shos/Beck town-reads could be off.

I didn't know what to do. I've not been a mason before, I was trying to be as unsubtle about things between me and are is as I could but it just seemed to be focussing things back onto me. If I didn't come forward, then the next few real life days would have continued with aronis/me coming under more pressure before having to claim later.
If I have played poorly as a mason then I apologise.

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@Geraint/Aronis, I don't think you had to claim there, like, at all.

@Nati, still waiting for your reads. You could also try contributing something that's useful, that would be nice.

@Shos, I was thinking along those lines for a second because the timing of that claim is so strange. For now though, we should just leave it be.

I need to re-evaluate my reads from the Pants wagon in light of Aronis being *confirmed town*, one of my Desp/Shos/Beck town-reads could be off.

I know. But someone was rather eager to claim.

Sorry. Last thing you had said to me was wagon was losing momentum but it didn't feel like that to me

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People should really be voting PC/gerain/nat

and yes I do say so...

obviously my read on gerain comes off because they claimed masons but I still don't like his play this game so I don't fully buy the claim.

My play has been poor. Day one I didn't like any of the wagons but it was obvious the final one wasn't going to catch scum.
Today I've just been sitting there watching people vote for my partner. I know I a not going to let him get lynched so it is all just a waste of time. But no other wagons really form all day and aronis was still up there.
So I do know my play has been bad but it has really been clouded by my role.

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Ger and Aronis, have either of you drawn Mason before?

Vote: Perfect Chaos

No. This is my first time.
As I havesaid, if I've been a bad mason then sorry

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I didn't know what to do

You could have done what I asked you to do and provide reasons why he was town, you could have not claimed. Unless there was nothing in his ISO that you could use. If that's the case, no wonder people were scum reading him

It is really hard for me to provide reasons to another player that someone is town when the evidence I have - role - just clouds everything. The reason he is town is because he is town....that is literally what I kept saying in every post and yes, I know everyone wants more than that, but I can't make a case on why he is town (and I imagine it would have been equally difficult for him to do it for me) because my point of view on him is just so different to everyone else.
I admit I didn't know how to use the mason role to trap people into outing themselves. I am trying to think Ive been in a game with masons before (certainly not since I returned to the site)

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I'd love to see grayfoxxx, acem and possible geraintm dead. I don't see a reason why lynch PC.

Me, really? And not aronis who is equally lumped in with me?

[geraintm]

Can the front post be updated so that replacements and deaths are correct?

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I've seen scum claim masons together. that's why they're not in the top 3 right now.
and that team sounds like 2 of my 3 best townreads and PC which I've got nothing bad on. so, no, lol.

Catching up.
I hate this game. I think I've tried reading the last 72 hours of posts 3 or 4 times and i get nothing obvious from it. Just nothing is happening in this game.

Anyways, better start posting some where.

Thought I would reply to this.
If you at all went through my pas games as scum, you would know I woudl never, ever do something like faking a claim like this. Just goes against every instinct I have to keep my head down. I hated one partner who bussed another one of the team, just hate that style of play from me as scum.

So no, I am not scum claiming mason.

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@ beck. desp is pretty null. one line responses. nothing much to go on. could just as easily be scum as it could be lazy town. null

I really don't think BBT is scum. That's actually my strongest townread after beck/ika. Shos is null leaning towards scum just because it's almost exactly hyalf and half scum posts and town posts.

Desp is just lurky so i'm not willing to lynch him really. But the fatalism is a bit scummy.

I'd still like to lynch PC

These two don't match. Their strongest town read is beck, someone they think is pretty meh and could go either way. This is so non committal .

But, last few days I am not getting much from this person, it is all kinda wishy washy.
(I realise the hypocrisy of this coming from me admitting that I am finding the game very wishy washy and my posts have been bad lately)

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I think you have read those quotes wrong.

In the first post, he is responding

to

Beck, talking

about

Desp.

Oh. That does make more sense,
....

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Bbt

His posts 619 to 719 are just nothing. Zero content
After that a lot of his posts are just asking for other opinions.

And after this, 802 is asking for someone else's reads.
805 what do you think?
I don't like this style of posting, it keeps you in the game and visible but not putting forward much of your own i do for others to go on.

Does for for pc though which is self consistent. But none of his asking for others opinions seems to have informed his choices. I am not sure why he asks all the time.

The move around 807 to include nati in his scum list I can't find precedent for.

Post 1007 has an opinion on scum, wish he expanded it more.

Overall, I hope it is just a posting style thing that rubs me up the wrong way. He's done nothing wrong, not scummy, but this is exactly the kind of player who I don't spot as scum and get beat by

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Natasha - I see no value in this person.
Can very easily be lynched with a good chance of it not hurting town at all if worst comes to worst. If a wagon formed here I would not be sad to be on it.

[geraintm]

Ger and Aronis, have either of you drawn Mason before?

Vote: Perfect Chaos

I didn't get this vote of perfect chaos.
It just seemed at the time opportunistic jumping on the last vote in the game.
I wonder if reading last this it will ever look any better?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

You know what, this is what I don't like about desperado.
This vote here

imo, the day dragged on too long and town lost interest. this suggests that there is scum within the lurking players.

this is supported by the fact that town was essentially split on three different wagons, and no one really made a push for a compromise until today.

I personally think we should no lynch today, and this will be one of the few times I actually suggest this. Here's why:
a) Given how unfocused town currently is, no-lynching and possibly adding extra days to the game benefits town

b) Unless town magically shows up in the final minutes, scum has control of who gets lynched

c) The top suggested compromise is on Aronis, and is being led by one of my scum reads, so screw that

I'm going to vote Pants specifically for the boldest statements, which are directly contradictory and suggest that everything he's saying about the gamestate is just bullshit, otherwise he wouldn't have said them both in the same post.

Vote: Dr Pants

Then this

Vote: Aronis

Then that

I can do geraintm

Unvote
Vote: geraintm

Then that

4 votes in a row on townies.
To me it is fishy.
Especially when I look at his vote on planar chaos and I thought it looked bad.
I have desperado in my naughty pile...

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don't do that shos. explaining town reads is always bad.

ika i'd like to know what you're getting at. And i'm STILL not sure why people are scumreading BBT.

im trying to figure out why something isnt adding up

I hate vagueness spike this.
Most of the posts seems fine, seems an attempt at putting people in piles (even if disagree with some of them *coughdespcough*) but for a replacement I have been happy with their play.
I can't see me wanting to lynch them today. But needs to stop being vague about things and just come out with thoughts, not hint that they'll come later

[geraintm]

Double trouble - I believe they are town. Blundering outing yourself like that just doesn't seem contrived. I won't be voting for them today

[geraintm]

Is gray fox in this game?
Post 342 to 821 to nothing.

Mod???

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I'd love to see grayfoxxx, acem and possible geraintm dead. I don't see a reason why lynch PC.

Aronis is obv town btw, I hope people understand why I am not looking at him.

Shos now, I think they are the last to look at.
This post confused me, how can I be suspicious but not aronis. There is no way right now we are not linked in for the rest of the game as being on the same side.

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Shos, pretty meh. Not sure why they are disbelieving on my claim. But they'll get over it.

[geraintm]

VOTE: desperado
But gray fox needs to be replaced.

[geraintm]

you know if anyone doubts the masons claims....

you need to look back at day one early interactions between shos claim and narious vote and then how things progessed from there.

anrous reaction to shos fakeclaim and followup match what i would expect from an inexperinced mason (no offense)

furthermore im going to sheep somewhat pants of this but the claim doestn fit right with me either.

can you reexplain this to me? I totally doubt the masonclaim(moreover with the last catchup by germany TM) and I don't see how it relates to my fakeclaim game start?

I'm not sure why you doubt it. Just because you've seen scum claim mason elsewhere, is that a common thing? Are most mason claims scum?
And it is easily testable later on in the game if you are truly paranoid about it. Just go with it, it will make today much simpler.

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Is gray fox in this game?
Post 342 to 821 to nothing.

Mod???

I was keeping him in with good faith to his computer situation but it's evident that he isn't going to be able to play the game at a decent capacity.

I'll replace him shortly.

I didn't know there was a computer situation, I just noticed not posting in this game whilst there had been some activity elsewhere

[geraintm]

You are giving me way more credit than I deserve. Thank you for that.

[geraintm]

VOTE: grayfoxxx

THis seems....pointless.
They are about to be replaced and they are going to get a free pass for the rest of today. Just seems like voting for voting sake.
If you were going to vote them.for being absent then should have happened a few days ago

[geraintm]

UNVOTE: desperado

I don't want today to end with one slot absent.
I will be mightly pissed if anyone lynches in the current game state.

[geraintm]

Alright. I believe the mason claims for now,based on geraintms response to my vote on grayfoxx. That was a reaction test btw, I knew he was replaconf out(see replacement thread - i posted there as mod and saw the post about grayfoxxz).

Meanwhile, I have yet to see a reasom for why I am scum and I cant get it no matterhow many shit posts I do, on purposeor not. 1059 is true, too, so I am goingto
VOTE: titus

Also, his activity does not match titustown.

The vote was just to get a reaction from me? Or from anyone? If the point of it was to see how I reacted then seems an odd thing to do.

[geraintm]

then take it as a scum claim titus.

im not going to hammer yet. if anything anrois/ger should be hammering b/c they are the confirmed towns unless if we have forgoten how i did it in HYWTD?

why would we want the conftowns to hammer? we lose info.

prefrence, we have 2 confirmed towns. in my last game where i was masons i had us abstain from voting so scums would have to work much more to get their wagons done. i always wanted them at the end of the VCs so when it comes to VCA its easier to find out

If people have a preference of how I place my vote, then let me know before I place it.

[geraintm]

I just want to make clear right off that the scientific indicature is

anus

, from both the Proto-Indo-European

ors

and

ano

(meaning "ring"), the former of which developed derogatorily into reference from the ninth chapter of Richard Wright's 1945 autobiography,

Black Boy

, "All these white folks dressed so fine / Their ass-holes smell just like mine...".
The politically correct nomenclature is either

feces expulsion unit (FEU)

,

cloaca

(which has as yet adopted negative connotations (unless sometime confused as FEUC),

posterior guardian

(which is my favourite), or

constipationally challenged

.

So who are claiming to be Masons, is it PC and Aronis?
Also, who is Time? Are they actually playing the game, or was that just a posterior guardian post trying to influence the game from outside?

And I'd appreciate a summary or three, it there are Townies willing to help a sub out.

No, the masons are me and aronis.

[geraintm]

VOTE: ika
VOTE: Desperado

Wow I guess that townfirms me right?

.

Are you a double voter or something? We sadly haven't had a vote count since your two double voting posts to see if you do indeed turn up twice.

[geraintm]

Unvote:
Vote: aceofspades

Ok, I was trying really hard to follow on the claiming thing, then Desp drops this. I admit I am confused.

[geraintm]

desp has yet to legit build a case on anyone so his town read that i have on him is starting to deteriorate

if hes scum i would be inclined to say anyonne he voted is town

Go read my post 1017 for my opinion on desp

[geraintm]

VOTE: I cannot follow this vanilla townie thirng daily, it is making my head hurt. For those not involved, will you all recognise now that to outsiders it looks like arguing over almost nothing, and it isn't going to influence my vote.
VOTE: desperado
I unvoted because slots were fluid, but not because I stopped thinking he was scum.

[geraintm]

VOTE: ace

Didn't realise the time. Lunch of ace is better than no lynch

[geraintm]

Sorry for the lynch.
I thought we would get info from those on a lynch, even if the lynch was a bad one.

I think desp, beck/ika and bbt have been on both lynches

Happy with lynching bbt today, his vote on ace looks poor. I can't see a good reason for it.
His reasoning for his hammer day 1 on pants looks equally bad (from my reread now).

I need convincing otherwise

VOTE: bbt

Scum are also likely to be among the other lynchers....

[geraintm]

Sorry for being absent.

What happened to the mass claim idea, it just get ignored?

Post 1473 confused me to hell. Green canyons building a case why desp looked scummy...

im willing to let titus live for toDay only b/c shes going to be forced to watch the mason.

the question remains, do you think we have full ninja or Xshot/limited?

I don't follow this, why do you think they are going to be forced to watch me? i can see a possible reason but I'd like you to explain.

I am not sure why, but formerfish's blunder with Titus makes me push them towards the pro town side
I am certainly not voting for them today.

I will stick my vote where it is, I haven't been convinced bbt isn't scum by anyone

[geraintm]

I am at a loss with this game, I am happy with some claims. I can't see how it would hurt town.

[geraintm]

Well, the benefits seem to me that town is not getting far as we are, if we can get somewhere with mass claims then that,s better than current where town are just getting ru over.
Would probably get people involved in the game too, right now seems a fair bit of apathy.

[geraintm]

VOTE: ika

On both lynches

Post 1487 I dislike as a leading sort of thing for telling others what to do at night
Still no idea what the fave colour thing was about

I can't see not one of bbt or ika not being scum, and now think more likely to be Ika

I'm sorry to all for my badness in this game. I feel under zero pressure to prove myself as town.

Who is yet to claim btw...

[geraintm]

if shes not dead tommorow that is....

shes forced to watch the mason as i already stated so we have an ic.

if the mason dies and she claims ninja shananigns, i would call BS
if she dies we have mason going into lylo
any kills outside of that is just a huge set of WIFOM and suboptimal play

Disagree with me being watched really.
If they want to kill me, let them. I am not cut out to be a mason. I won't be a great loss for my scum hunting. Take the chance of picking someone else.
I hate hate hate someone telling another role what to do, especially when I am voting for them as scum.

[geraintm]

Bah, go town

[geraintm]

Well, I claim no credit for being any help to town this game. I just can't play as mason.
I just got into this mindset that as town, and provable town, that I was able to coast through.
I also didn't really know what to do as mason, just seemed such a meh thing to be.

Bbt


Overall, I hope it is just a posting style thing that rubs me up the wrong way. He's done nothing wrong, not scummy, but this is exactly the kind of player who I don't spot as scum and get beat by

That seems....disappointing.
I think I actually only placed one vote on scum the whole game.
People in future games need to do the exact opposite of me. I am the Constanza of Mafia hunting.