Mini 386: Safari in the Serengeti - Not Still going

[Lowell]

Hi all, I'm replacing (as soon as DerHammer finds me a role)

I'll read through and tell you who the scum are.

Unless I'm scum, in which case I'll lie. Just sayin'.

[Lowell]

PS: Nice Avatar Lowell...

Who is this guy? I was playing with dice before it was cool...

[Lowell]

So... blackberry, zodiac, and theopor? Those are my choices?

[Lowell]

vote blackberry

. Sorry. And no, it's not just because there are too many dice for my liking.

From what I can see, zodiac claimed pro-town leopard. I tend to believe him given what I've seen.

Sherlock doesn't have a lot of posts to go on, but doesn't look particularly scummy by my count.

That leaves NIGHTSON (now blackberry) as my vote for now.

[Lowell]

blackberry, if you are a power-role as you say, you should at least vote one of the other two. Ideally for you, you won't be in the final 2, then we can actually try to find scum between those 2 instead of just giving up with a lot of time for discussion left.

[Lowell]

unvote, vote theopor

[Lowell]

Theo, that sounds fake to me. You "poison" your attacker so that the lynching voter can't vote for the rest of the game? No one will ever want to lynch you at at that rate. Convenient.

I would like to hear more from Zodiac though, but for now I'm happy with my vote.

[Lowell]

Whoa. Is that a direct quote?

FOS Mariyta

Umm, it's unwise to ask those kind of questions.

[Lowell]

Not sure who put the last vote on theo, but just in case...

unvote, vote theo

just so it's clear where I stand. That claim still smells like crap.

[Lowell]

vote raj

He ought to at least have a vote I think.

Mariyta, can you expand on that please?

Also, how am I safe from elimination? I didn't even know the day had started...

[Lowell]

that does sound a little fake.

unvote, vote SV

[Lowell]

I'm here. Uh, thanks for requesting me personally, ThAdmiral. Here's my take.

Probably ONE scum remaining, no vigilante or SK. I think the "reverse elimination" voting process we're using actually helps us in this case, as scum are far less likely to vote each other than in a standard-voting game (since throwaway votes have a lot more impact than in normal games, where tossing a scumbuddy a vote now and again doesnt' really hurt).

I looked at all the posts of all our known scum (SV, theo, Sherlock, masterchief, Ibaesha) and it turns out that NONE of them voted for each other, with the only exception being SV casting a vote after theo had already reached lynch (or was inevitably to do so).

The only players they've voted for, in fact, are:
Zodiac (alive)
Klebian (lynched)
Blackberry (NKed)
Lowell (alive)
Maritya (alive)

To me Zodiac and Maritya are the most cleared players out there. Zodiac because scum have attacked him like its their job (check the posts if you don't recall just how much flak he's taken) and Maritya mostly because of the recent showdown with SV. SV very strongly tried to cast suspicion on Maritya, in a way I just can't see a scum doing to another scum. If we really had 2 scum in our final 2 (unlikely) I think they would have approached things differently than to haphazardly make stupid claims as SV did.

In my opionion, the final scum has got to be in the group of:

milkman
Raj
ThAdmiral

I'm going to

vote milkman

. He needs to be in the final two. Of those three candidates, he's the one I feel I know the least about. I would probably prefer to take Raj as #2.

[Lowell]

I just think you're the scummiest of the three. To be honest I don't have the clearest picture in my head as to what is going on. What I posted above is what I'm going by. I'm relatively certain that one of the three of you is the last scum. So, if it's not you, sorry. Either way I think the town will be in okay shape.

[Lowell]

Yeah I'll buy that I guess.

unvote, vote ThAdmiral

[Lowell]

raj, this isn't helping your case.

Allow me my "skepticism" on this one.

1) The last remaining scum can win by getting the town to lynch someone other than themselves (presumably)
2) YOU have said that you KNOW someone to be innocent but won't reveal who...

So, the question becomes... WHY NOT?

You say that it's because you don't want to give any clues, but clues are exactly what we'd need to make sure the last scum doesn't sneak by unvoted. If you can clear someone, CLEAR somene. That means at very least that we'd have our "cop" and "innocent" as the first two cleared, and the final choice would at least be between two unknows as opposed to the chance of your "innocent" being in the final two.

Why are you waiting to see if someone attacks your innocent? What would that prove? Your objection means nothing and looks terrible, and I'm worried you're doing this intentionally. Waiting for the final two only to then say "this candidate is innocent", forcing us to lynch the other and win you the game.

vote raj

Milkman said he wanted to vote you. Zodiac already did vote you. Feeling the heat?

[Lowell]

unvote raj, FOS raj

[Lowell]

oh he's voting you currently.... Oops.

That's a mistake I've made too many times...

[Lowell]

You'll understand my skepticism, though. Anyone can and will claim cop. We need to think about this a little more.

[Lowell]

OY! Wrong choice, Zod...

vote no lynch

is the play.

Even if you believe Raj, you can kill me tomorrow. Much better for town to play with three than four.

[Lowell]

Milkman (or replacement)- Vote no lynch. Again, even if you think I'm scum, this will buy another day at no cost. Then you can lynch me tomorrow.

At this point I'm relatively certain Raj is the remaining scum. I think he's gambling that the cop is already dead.

[Lowell]

Someone not crazy, please.

[Lowell]

How can there be an SK when we've had only 1 NK each night?

I too would like to see this continue, if we can get a new mod. I'll be curious to see what's what.