Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[1baldeagle1]

Hello! I'll skim through the game when I get time tonight. If someone can give me a quick summary of everything that has happened so far, that would help greatly!

[1baldeagle1]

You know what, I think I'm gonna look at the wagons from Day 1 and look at the nature of the votes.

[1baldeagle1]

eagle, claim please. your predecessor claimed enabler, do you confirm?

Oh, he did? Where?

[1baldeagle1]

do you or do you not?

Let me see the claim so I know you're not lying and trying to trick me. Once I see, I'll answer your question.

[1baldeagle1]

wrong answer.

VOTE: 1baldeagle1
a townie would just say no.

Why are you being so whiny?

It IS wrong, as if my question wasn't obvious enough.

I tried to find it myself and all I found was "Virgin" which is half right.

[1baldeagle1]

whiny? no, not at all, the whole trap is really easy to understand. if you really were a virgin, you'd just answer no, and not start running through 3000 posts in search of enlightment. funny that you added the 'half' there. GG never said anything about it.

Exactly, he never said anything else. There's more to it.

I'm the Virgin Weak Doctor. I (or Grim) protected Mala last night and Mala is confirmed town.

Makes sense now?

[1baldeagle1]

I was referring to the part where Grim lied and only claimed half of my role. Why would he claim Weak Doctor on Day 1? Lol.

[1baldeagle1]

Anyways, I'm slightly leaning town on shos for that pressure. I'll catch up later tonight.

[1baldeagle1]

Actually, never mind. Alright, so I'm looking at the PA wagon in hopes of finding scum on it.

Final Votecount Day 1

penguin_alien - 7 - ooba, Nachomamma8, shos, Wisdom, Desperado, Grimgroove, Mirari (LYNCH)
ika - 3 - havingfitz, Whiskers, penguin_alien (L-4)

Not voting - MattP, Malakittens, ika

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-22 12:00:00)

Mirari- Null-Scum. The backpedal from the claim then hammering was sketchy.
Desperado- I feel town vibes from him this time. He had a pretty decent tunnel on PA.
Wisdom- Not sure. I played with him both as town and scum. I kinda like his tunnel on PA, but he could do that as scum. Null.
Shos- Well, given our recent exchange, I'm calling him slightly town.Also, his tunnel on PA is okay.
Nacho- His push on PA seemed lazy to me and it seemed like he was forcing the development. I had a hard time figuring out how he got PA scum in his ISO.
Ooba- I like his scum hunting idea and posts. Town.
Whiskers- I really like their posts and I just get a screaming "Town!" thought in my head. This person reminds me of pieguyn as town.
havingfitz- I don't really know, never played with him before and his posts aren't really telling me anything so, null.
MattP- Don't really know, I'm not sure why he wasn't on a wagon yesterday, but my gut is telling he's scum for some reason.
Mala- Confirmed town
Ika- Null. He feels like a noob and I'm horrible at reading noobs.

And I got carried away and did reasons on everyone. Btw, I did not look for any claims (if there were any), so please tell so I don't have to go through 100+ pages to find the claim.

VOTE: Mirari

[1baldeagle1]

whiny? no, not at all, the whole trap is really easy to understand. if you really were a virgin, you'd just answer no, and not start running through 3000 posts in search of enlightment. funny that you added the 'half' there. GG never said anything about it.

Exactly, he never said anything else. There's more to it.

I'm the Virgin Weak Doctor. I (or Grim) protected Mala last night and Mala is confirmed town.

Makes sense now?

Eagle, you have a hell of a way of looking scummy as shit in response to reaction tests.

Yep.

[1baldeagle1]

Also, Wisdom is dead so reading him shouldn't be too hard.

I derped so hard.

[1baldeagle1]

I don't really like the Mirari vote; she had some genuine sounding notes earlier and I remember getting a decent townread on her after everything was said and don. Let me go dig them up.

I can explain it a little more in detail, but I'm playing a marathon atm. So it'll be after that.

[1baldeagle1]

What if Mala and Eagle target the same person? I'm not asking for a lengthy discussion on this (likely to reveal better plays to scum, please don't discuss at length), but this way, if one is killed, the other one can still give us a result. If they're BOTH killed, we catch a scum. On second thought, not such a great plan. Nevermind.

What did Mala claim?

[1baldeagle1]

I don't really like the Mirari vote; she had some genuine sounding notes earlier and I remember getting a decent townread on her after everything was said and don. Let me go dig them up.

Alright. I'll explain this through the order of events in a paraphrased fashion with commentary. My commentary is in italics.

PA: I'm a commuter!
Mirari: *unvotes* Let me think about this!

Scummy motivation here is that Mirari is backing away from a PR so he doesn't look scummy for it.

Wisdom: Yep, PA is scum.
Mirari: Final reads?

Mirari's thoughts: "Sweet, town still thinks PA is scum, time to hammer but I think I'm going to try to appear town by letting her provide some final reads!"

PA: *says final words etc*
Mirari: I'm going to give you an extra few hours to let you say everything you can!

Desperately trying to go for towncred where PA has pretty much said everything that has been said.

So, yeah that's what I got from those posts. Her hammer vote was just weird and dramatic.

[1baldeagle1]

What if Mala and Eagle target the same person? I'm not asking for a lengthy discussion on this (likely to reveal better plays to scum, please don't discuss at length), but this way, if one is killed, the other one can still give us a result. If they're BOTH killed, we catch a scum. On second thought, not such a great plan. Nevermind.

What did Mala claim?

Malakittens is a QuickTopic-Cop. She investigates people and finds out whether or not they have a Quicktopic thread. That's the claim, iiuc.

Did she get a report?

[1baldeagle1]

whiny? no, not at all, the whole trap is really easy to understand. if you really were a virgin, you'd just answer no, and not start running through 3000 posts in search of enlightment. funny that you added the 'half' there. GG never said anything about it.

Exactly, he never said anything else. There's more to it.

I'm the Virgin

Weak Doctor

. I (or Grim) protected Mala last night and Mala is confirmed town.

Makes sense now?

weak doc? is it me or does that look like the stupid claim ever in a game flavor like this. we are FREAKING GODS, i dont ecpext gods to be "weak" of any foi want to hear a flavor or something that will convince me that a god would be "weak" if this was a game where we had mortals mixed in maybe but not gods.

vote: 1baldeagle1

I can't tell if this is bad town or scum. I'm bad at reading noobs.

[1baldeagle1]

I request to be docced tonight.

I rather protect Mala.

[1baldeagle1]

Because Mala is a QT cop, so she needs to stay alive. And scum can just nightkill me to frame someone anyways.

[1baldeagle1]

Shos, are you serious? You are actually going to vote for me?

[1baldeagle1]

Shos, GG said w/e about Mala because he KNEW he could just check Mala's alignment by targeting her.

[1baldeagle1]

Because Mala is a QT cop, so she needs to stay alive. And scum can just nightkill me to frame someone anyways.

Uh, yeah, except Mala's role is about as useful as a cat in an apple tree.

But, if I target someone else, scum can just nightkill me to frame whoever I target.

[1baldeagle1]

@Whiskers, thanks for the scenarios. I was thinking from a getting a guilty cop perspective rather than a getting an inno cop perspective.

[1baldeagle1]

If gg thought mala was scum he would crumb that he is targetting mala. He didnt.

He just tossed mala in the town pile to deal with later, so he could check mala. He didn't need to breadcrumb it.

Also whis is correct re: nk.
I still maintain that i want to get docced

If you want to be docced, why the hell are you voting me? This doesn't make sense:
"I'm going to vote for the doctor"
...
"I still wanted to be docced, though"

[1baldeagle1]

Hey guys, I got an idea. How about we ignore shos and quit talking about the Weak Doctor stuff and start scumhunting. Seriously, we just wasted two days on this and we have explained to shos several times about the claim and he's still doesn't get it.

I want to hear from Mirari and I want her to tell me what she thinks about my scum case on her.

[1baldeagle1]

Eagle, can anyone neighborize you?

Nope. I'm a virgin. I cannot be neighorized.

UNVOTE:
Yeah, Mirairi isn't scum. I really liked her catchup post.

I could get behind a fitz lynch. He went on V/LA, right?

[1baldeagle1]

Hmm

Malakitens is a cop that CAN be neighborized
Wisdom was a cop that couldn't
Baldeage is a cop that can't

Is that what I am seeing?

So we have two parallel dimensions.

Is ika the only one that hasn't claimed (besides Minari).

Not a cop, but in sense I am a cop that confirm townies.

Can someone tell me who claimed neighborizer? I think we have 3 claims of that, as I skimmed through Day 1. I have a feeling that one of them is scum, because I don't see how a setup could have 3 of them and they are all town.

[1baldeagle1]

Well, if there was a scum neighborizer, my guess it would be fitz.

[1baldeagle1]

Well, if there was a scum neighborizer, my guess it would be fitz.

I kinda disagree. AA wasn't playing similar to her scum meta. I'd have a hard time totally agreeing here. :\

Well, if there was a scum neighborizer, who would it be?

Well, if there was a scum neighborizer, my guess it would be fitz.

Vote him.

I want to wait for him to come back from V/LA.

[1baldeagle1]

Mala, my read on Fitz was null before I knew about his neighborizer claim.

[1baldeagle1]

ika might be noobscum, tbh.

Lurking is one symptom of a noobscum. What do you guys think?

[1baldeagle1]

I think shos is probably town, just being dumb with the vote on me.

[1baldeagle1]

Can you guys please shut the fuck up about what the PRs should and shouldn't do, you are only helping scum. I have said that I will be investigating someone and I will not be saying who unless I'm still alive in the morning.

I can get behind a ika lynch, but I definitely think we should lynch one of the neighborizers, because there's one that's probably scum.

VOTE: ika

[1baldeagle1]

Can you guys please shut the fuck up about what the PRs should and shouldn't do, you are only helping scum. I have said that I will be investigating someone and I will not be saying who unless I'm still alive in the morning.

BUT YOU DO REALIZE THAT IF YOU ARE NOT ALIVE IN THE MORNING YOU CANNOT TELL US WHO YOU TARGETTED?!?!?!?!?!?

IF I SAY WHO I TARGET BEFORE THE NIGHT, THEN SCUM CAN MANIPULATE THAT. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. NOW SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

I really can't see how both eagle AND gg suck in playing weak.

can we still lynch this? please?

No.

Why do I feel like I'm playing a Newbie game....

[1baldeagle1]

@Nacho, I changed my mind and I do not want to lynch any of the neighborizers at the moment, definitely a good idea to later in the game. I would feel more confident getting scum outside of the neighborizer pool before we look into them. I think fitz is the scummiest person in the neighborizer group, then it goes Titus then Whiskers.

@Whiskers, I follow your plan, and I'm willing to do it, but I want to make sure it's smart to do so.

@everyone, are there any objections to Whiskers's plan in 3140?

[1baldeagle1]

I see a major objection.

Let's say you target Mala and an innocent town player. The mafia know this. They nk. Only baldeagle dies. The implication is that shos is scum and the NK was healed. The mafia can then get at least one free mislynch.

If they are no killing and I'm protecting someone that is town, how would I die?

[1baldeagle1]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

Not ready for a lynch yet, still got some things to discuss. Will post more when I get home.

[1baldeagle1]

UNVOTE:

[1baldeagle1]

@Nacho, I changed my mind and I do not want to lynch any of the neighborizers at the moment, definitely a good idea to later in the game. I would feel more confident getting scum outside of the neighborizer pool before we look into them. I think fitz is the scummiest person in the neighborizer group, then it goes Titus then Whiskers.

@Whiskers, I follow your plan, and I'm willing to do it, but I want to make sure it's smart to do so.

@everyone, are there any objections to Whiskers's plan in 3140?

Why did you change your mind?

I rather see a scumflip or two outside of the neighorizer pool before we start looking into them.

shos, get your fucking vote off of me and do something useful.

[1baldeagle1]

Ok, here's the plan.

Mala is going to investigate whoever she feels like investigating.

My possible targets are Malakittens or havingfitz.

Whiskers's plan is in post 3140

Alright, I'm ready to lynch now.
VOTE: ika

This is L-1.

Ika, please claim in your next post.

[1baldeagle1]

If ika ignores this thread, then he's claiming scum.

[1baldeagle1]

Actually, he has been ignoring it all day.

[1baldeagle1]

I flipped a coin.

I was on fitz and fitz is now confirmed town.

So, if there is a scum neighborizer, it might be Titus but I want to hear from everyone about their opinion of my one-scum neighborizer theory. I would be okay with lynching one of the neighborizers since we got a scumflip yesterday (which got kind of obvious when ika kept posting everywhere and not claiming here.), and does anyone have scum meta on shos? Is it normal for him to try to push claimed PRs and not support an obv scum lynch?

[1baldeagle1]

I flipped a coin.

I was on fitz and fitz is now confirmed town.

So, if there is a scum neighborizer, it might be Titus but I want to hear from everyone about their opinion of my one-scum neighborizer theory. I would be okay with lynching one of the neighborizers since we got a scumflip yesterday (which got kind of obvious when ika kept posting everywhere and not claiming here.), and does anyone have scum meta on shos? Is it normal for him to try to push claimed PRs and not support an obv scum lynch?

Do you really think that Titus would bus ika in the way she did earlier when she's the only person with meta experience with him?

Maybe. Ika was being useless so Titus may have seen an opportunity to get rid of ika by coming ahead with the meta and get the towncred.

Eagle....were you notified that your protect on me was successful?

I didn't get a pm, so I guess that means that no one tried to kill you.

shos's claim looks legit and believable and I don't fully understand Kise's claim. Who is your mason partner?

[1baldeagle1]

Mirari.

OK, makes sense.

[1baldeagle1]

Alright, I'm assuming that we are doing the plan tonight and I'll start thinking of some possible people to target for tonight.

Feel free to tell me some suggestions.

[1baldeagle1]

fitz, can you read the game please? I said that I flipped a coin to ensure my night actions are random so scum cannot try to plan possible ways to thwart the plan.

Alright, targets for tonight:
1. Kise
2. Nacho

I'm willing to switch out Kise and put fitz in if you guys want me to.

[1baldeagle1]

I had a long day so I'm gonna make a short post.

I'll be on Nacho for tonight.

[1baldeagle1]

Alright, so. I'm still good with a Titus lynch. Considering we have two masons, 1 town neighborizer and a weak doc, I don't see us losing this one. If I die no matter what, then Nacho is confirmed scum and he needs to be speed lynched. Then, if Titus flips town then maybe Whiskers is the scum neighborizer. But Whiskers is my top townread so I doubt it.

[1baldeagle1]

Well, Nacho is confirmed town I guess.

But I'm really starting to get paranoid about a scum RB. I was expecting myself to be dead by now.

[1baldeagle1]

There's a chance we can lose by tomorrow. We mislynch today, scum kills someone else and I target scum. That puts 2 town and 2 scum.

So if we mislynch today, I think it's safer for me to just target Kise to protect him.

[1baldeagle1]

Okay, here's what I'm thinking. We have all these town roles, so there's probably a scum RB and I'm just being really paranoid because I expected myself dead already. Scum would want me to target them so they could roleblock me and become confirmed town.

So, Nacho and fitz is not confirmed.

Shos, didn't you claim Enabler?

[1baldeagle1]

@Whiskers, no. YOU CANNOT NOT ASSUME THAT FITZ AND NACHO ARE CONFIRMED TOWN AFTER I FLIP BECAUSE I STILL COULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED.

VOTE: fitz

Shos's 3429 is pretty good.

[1baldeagle1]

Ugh.

I'll be on Kise tonight because I can't risk targeting anyone else, because if there are two deaths tonight, we lose.

Hey, shos. What makes Whiskers' unvote in the same post makes Whiskers scum? I don't understand the "it was going to be a mislynch" logic.

[1baldeagle1]

My picks are Nacho and Whiskers if fitz flips town.

Kise will be in LYLO unless if I get roleblocked.

[1baldeagle1]

Yep.

There's a RB.

[1baldeagle1]

Nacho is not confirmed town.

[1baldeagle1]

Whiskers, what was the point of the vote and unvote in the same post? If you ere planning to unvote him in the same post, what was the point of the vote in the first place? You could have just removed the vote when making the post without going "oh wait, *unvote*"

Nacho, what did you claim again?

I think it's Whiskers, and maybe Nacho.

[1baldeagle1]

VOTE: whiskers

Willing to 1v1.

Unvote.

Now.

Scum can hammer and they might have daytalk.

No one fucking votes.

[1baldeagle1]

Ok, I'm confused.

What are the claims again.

I need the clear claims from you guys so I can think clearly.

[1baldeagle1]

Well, tell me the fucking claims so I can actually make some analysis out of them.

Anyways, I'm inclined to vote for Whiskers, because he was indeed lying about he didn't see my post.

[1baldeagle1]

It's not right. We never had a flipped ninja.

[1baldeagle1]

Ok, Nacho and Whiskers are scum.

I'm pretty sure there is a scum neighborizer and the bomb claim is unconfirmable and it makes it hard to clear.

[1baldeagle1]

VOTE: Whiskers

[1baldeagle1]

...I swear I read Mafia Goon when ika flipped.

[1baldeagle1]

Weird setup, I was so sure there was going to be a scum neighborizer because it was strange how all of them would be town...

GG scum, you manipulated me..