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Oman · Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:50 am

I am back motherfuckers! and I only know like two names in here.

vote: chkflip

Yo

Oman · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:52 am

EDIT:

RECK, why you no say hi?

Oman · Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:47 am

In post 17, xRECKONERx wrote:Hi Oman! We are doing an early kill wagon on yessir, you should join us.

Because he said he was a godfather. Yeah, I dunno man. I used to play with this whole "certainty" thing because I thought it made me alpha.

I'm gonna try to be a little more conservative with my votes for at least the first ten minutes of this game.

Oman · Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:24 am

In post 18, yessiree wrote:@people who didn't vote either reck or me, why?

Neither of the wagons are inherently interesting and if everyone arbitrarily rushes two wagons then you don't actually get any info.

To get scum information, you need to present a problem that causes scum to weigh up their options and make a decision. This isn't a relevant meaningful decision.

Oman · Post Post #45 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:29 pm

In post 39, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: Varsoon.

Plz explain this vote Reck. I'm not a fan of letting votes go by, even self explanatory ones.

I'd like to see a heavy wagon driven on Varsoon right now. His reaction to it will be what makes me think he's scum and not just wildly anti-town.

Varsoon: why? What was your reasoning?

Chkflip: you put him at -1 and called for a lynch, even describing yessiree as scum. Please explain both of these moves, in why you did it, and what you were trying to achieve.

Newearth, it's not that "everyone" thinks differently. There were two votes. Two. ease up on the absolutes, they make for weak play.

Oman · Post Post #46 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:30 pm

EBWOP:

vote: Varsoon

L-3 wagon is on. Show me you're a bad townie and not an idiot scum.

Oman · Post Post #50 (isolation #6) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:25 am

In post 49, xRECKONERx wrote:
@Oman: Why did you want me to explain my vote when you just voted him at the end anyway?

Because I want to know your ligament, and whether I vote for him or not is independent of that. I want to know if your vote is an understandable well reasoned vote or a poorly reasoned bus or a scummy shift of attention.

I said that I thought pressure would give more guidance on varsson's alignment, hence my vote. I'm interested why you did it is all?

And yeah, to Varsoon's post I pretty much point at Reck's, a hammer is a lot different to most votes (Esp in this circumstance) I dunno, he's feeling more "bad townie"than scum.

Oman · Post Post #51 (isolation #7) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:37 am

Varsoon, I just read through a BUNCH of your old games (isos, obv). Why did you make that hammer, why are you OMGUSing me? You're a better player thn this.

Oman · Post Post #63 (isolation #8) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:58 pm

In post 52, Nani wrote:Hammer at rvs is an idiot tell.

Vote Mafiassk

thenewearth is town for reaction to the Varsoon wagon.

Thenewearth has a massive overreaction. How is this town?

Oman · Post Post #65 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:02 am

This is why I stopped playing mafia...

Oman · Post Post #86 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:08 pm

I'm with Reck, I really don't like chkflip.

I was on this for pressure, but now I'm totally happy to see Varsoon actually die.

Oman · Post Post #90 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:45 pm

In post 87, Varsoon wrote:
In post 86, Oman wrote:I'm with Reck, I really don't like chkflip.

I was on this for a mislynch, but now I'm totally happy to see town-Varsoon actually die.

Ahem.

Ugh, really?

Really?

Oman · Post Post #117 (isolation #12) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:57 pm

In post 116, Oversoul wrote:VOTE: Reckoner

This shit doesn't fly in Day 3, this far down.

CHKflip, you're huge on my radar. Start talking some, plz.

Oman · Post Post #125 (isolation #13) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 120, Oversoul wrote:
In post 117, Oman wrote:
In post 116, Oversoul wrote:VOTE: Reckoner
This shit doesn't fly in Day 3, this far down.

CHKflip, you're huge on my radar. Start talking some, plz.
Am I voting your buddy?

This kind of conversation isn't productive. There is literally zero outcome out of that post which pushes the town forward towards victory.

Oman · Post Post #129 (isolation #14) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:58 pm

Okay, I'll do what little I can cause I think this needs to happen.

In post 30, chkflip wrote:VOTE: yessiree

Let's make some history. Fastest scum speed-lynch ever.

L-1, calls for the lynch then acts like he wasn't involved when called on it later. That post (coming next is one of my favourites).

In post 30, chkflip wrote:VOTE: yessiree

Let's make some history. Fastest scum speed-lynch ever.

In post 58, chkflip wrote:
In post 45, Oman wrote:Chkflip: you put him at -1 and called for a lynch, even describing yessiree as scum. Please explain both of these moves, in why you did it, and what you were trying to achieve.
First, you should describe why you're taking my calling {a) for a lynch, and b) yessiree scum} seriously, then note that it was still RVS, and in no way did I think someone was going to hammer.

Varsoon, do you have a post restriction?

Then what were you trying to achieve? RVS needs to be focused on something, it needs to have an intent. Usually that's pressure and looking for reactions. Yessirree was already at L-2, so trying to "pressure" him is hollow. Calling for the lynch is dumb, because you couldn't have wanted that. There was no reason for you to do what you did except if you wanted the lynch. Voting him was a clear case of doing something destructive with no town-motivation.

In post 73, chkflip wrote:What is this, I don't even

This is in reference to Varsoon's Dayvig. It's empty, it does nothing. It contributes a zero.

In post 76, chkflip wrote:Wait. Did you just flop from "Varsoon took D1 away from us" to "chkflip set it all up"?

p.s. Mini Themes don't have to be balanced. Just thought you might want to know that.

This is a shot at Reck after reck has just been daviged. Honestly, I love Reck so much, but this starts to look like distancing. With Reck thinking he's going to flip, it's important for the two to start getting some conflict ASAP. Regardless, he's going down this "setup" path again. Post-restrictions, balance, it's all unnecessary at this stage of the game, and it's what chkflip keeps coming back to.

Anyway, you've done nothing positive to the town and a lot destructive. You are a baddie.

VOTE: chkflip L-3

Oman · Post Post #138 (isolation #15) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:55 pm

In post 136, Oversoul wrote:Well the fact that Reck isn't trying to scumhunt at all now that I have levied an accusation against him, it should be pretty telling.

Mate the problem here is that posts like yours imply knowledge, but don't actually claim any so it's usually a scum tactic designed to soft claim a cop, with deniability. The problem is that we are now seeing a lot of power roles, so for you to be claiming cop is actually a big decision for us as a town.

I hope you can understand that I feel a bit rock/hard place here. I like the idea of a reck Chkflip scumteam here but that starts with me thinking Chkflip is scum. I don't like the idea of assuming that I'm right there, then assuming my distancing read is right. It's too big a jump with 6 pages to work off. so right now I'm stuck between wanting to chase my own nose, and wanting to believe you. Between thinking you're executing a possible scum tactic, and thinking you could know more than me. Between high risk and safe reward.

I would love to just take you at your word, and day 2 I might have believed this implied knowledge with nothing else, but we're rapidly approaching LYLO with not much on the table. I don't think I can. I'm gonna need more.

The reck not scum hunting under accusation is a good step in the right direction, I'll watch it some more, but Chkflip is still a better D for me today.

Oman · Post Post #147 (isolation #16) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:56 am

Unvote

Hmmm. Overtoast, I'm gonna need you to weigh in before I act...

Oman · Post Post #156 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:28 am

In post 150, Oversoul wrote:But, I feigned a cop guilty on Reck for 2 reasons.

This is like...100% exactly why I said I wouldn't trust you. Thank you for reaffirming my belief that in this FUCKING GAME that is THREE DAYS IN, SIX PAGES DEEP, we all want to run gambits.

Dayvig's and fucking D1 quicklynches. LOLOLOLOL, how about you all stop trying to run INCREDIBLY high risk gambits, and just hunt scum.

Reck, I needed Overtoast to weigh in because I got that he was softclaiming a cop guilty. Then someone else claims a cop guilty on you. You see why I wanted his thoughts on it?

Anyway, I'm calling a Reck/chkflip scumteam on the nose, win/place on their being a 3rd mafia or a 3rd party. With our REAL CLAIMED NOT GAMBITING COP as real because there is no reason for scum to jump in and do that just in case town oversoul was REALLY a cop and then we get claimwars...but it's on the same guy, with the same result. You see why he's town? Yeah that.

I'm p happy with Reck/chk as scum. I'd prefer chk to go first because that's my gut, but I'll take Reck today with the benefit of a guilty.

Reck's idea of lynching the cop first is dumb for dumb reasons, and shouldn't need me pointing it out.

Oman · Post Post #157 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:42 am

Wait, radelphic has retracted the guilty? Already!?

What the fucking fuck.

You guys sort your shit out. I'm done posting for a bit because you're all the fuckibg worst and I hate you.

Please just play sane like a town, instead of a group of individual supermen just trying to win it all on your own.

I'm still keen for reck/chk, without the guilty im for chk over reck.

This town is the posterchild for why I want Lynch All Liars to be site wide meta.

Oman · Post Post #173 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:53 am

In post 171, Redelphic wrote:
In post 167, chkflip wrote:Radelphic's "guilty" is as dumb as anything else that has happened this game.
Lol, it's so true. I'm surprised it even got taken seriously it was so badly executed.
You have no idea how stupid it was reading through this game. I was giggling the whole time I was writing it out, I just couldn't resist having some fun of my own after seeing everything else. xD

You are an idiot.

Rereading. But I'm putting it off because I hated reading everyone's "hilarious" gambits enough the first time.