Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Natirasha]

FG vaguely alluded to you being a Cop, but he never actually outed you. You did that yourself. Plenty of players would have missed exactly what FG was saying without this

He hardlly alluded to it, he outright stated I was softclaiming cop. At which place, I found it better that i just confirm the statement and hope a doc(or Bodyguard...) could protect me.

[Natirasha]

I agree that this game is likely to not have Tarhalindur/reckoner/Vi style roles.

I also agree that it likely may not adhere to the normal game rules.

[Natirasha]

Yes please, lynch Desp.

[Natirasha]

actually, just remembered fakegod came in and outed Nat for what he thought was fake bread crumbs. doesn't seem like a scum move to take. he would just have quietly spoken that to his teammates.

I'm not exactly sure on that, he was trying to get me lynched. They might have been trying to get me out of the picture early on. I agree that, of the three in my team, FakeGod is the lowest on the list.

[Natirasha]

Because. He was in a bad position--ignoring Waynegg for a minute--the rest of us all thought Desp was suspicious as fuck! I distinctly didn't investigate him

because

he was so obviously scum that I was going to push his lynch anyway. If he did something timid like claim VT or some shit, we'd already be on night three. So, no, I think the scum team decided to go for some big plays. If it worked, hey, they managed to get two lynches out of Desperado before death. And the game is in LyLo from then-on. If not, well, oh well, he was pretty dead in the water anyway.

[Natirasha]

My townread on mollie died enough to make me investigate her.

[Natirasha]

Yeah I have no idea what you're saying waynegg.

[Natirasha]

Goddammit, Mara, I've been sitting here all day waiting for you to get here. I see you in chat, come on.

[Natirasha]

If I thought there was a sizable chance that Depserado was not scum, I'd agree Mantis is the correct lynch.

Except the chance of him being town in my eyes is less than 10%. Especially after that hammer. Like, come on, he didn't even let the girl claim!

[Natirasha]

Yes, 100%. The hammer wasn't the only thing, Serra.

[Natirasha]

Bert, I intend to be town leader. My interest in games typically is inversely proportional to the number of players remaining.

[Natirasha]

I usually agree with that sentiment, serra. And if you'd been the one to claim Tracker, I might have fell for it. But, not Desp. No way in hell.

[Natirasha]

I usually agree with that sentiment, serra. And if you'd been the one to claim Tracker, I might have fell for it. But, not Desp. No way in hell.

So you're saying you're convinced I'm scum now?

We'll see about that. Good on you for catching on to the implication though.

[Natirasha]

Yeah, I'm going to need you to explain that Mara.

[Natirasha]

VOTE: Mantis

I think I could go for this

I don't think Desp would lie like that just to try and gain a edge, specially if it would mean one less member if he chooses to frame a buddy

Mara
No
Stop

[Natirasha]

Because Desperado is acting like caught scum trying to salvage their life as much as possible.

[Natirasha]

The first thing you need to think of.

Is can a cop and tracker both be in the setup.

[Natirasha]

If yes, draw your own conclusions.

If no, then by voting mantis you are actually saying I'm scum.

[Natirasha]

Grrrr.

How do you NOT see the rationale? We had our spotlight on him--Wisdom, Serra, mollie, me, we all were looking at him hard. He saw a chance at a mislynch, takes it. Today, he comes in, claims a powerful role, gets another mislynch and dies. He was likely tro die anyway!

[Natirasha]

Yeah I don't think potato is scum. I just think mara is not thinking.

[Natirasha]

I agree they killed Wisdom because he was seeing the right targets.

[Natirasha]

Yeah I don't think potato is scum. I just think mara is not thinking.

Come again?

Your posts today have expressed a feeling of not understanding what is going on.

[Natirasha]

Do you think I'm scum then?

[Natirasha]

Follow up questions: Why is his claim timing make sense?
Why did he hammer?
If Desperado had not claimed tracker, what would you think?

[Natirasha]

This question is not about what you think your motivations are, it's about what she thinks your motivations are.

[Natirasha]

Bert, can you find me a gif of the monks from Monty Python and the Holy Grail smacking in the head.

[Natirasha]

Have you talked with Om at all?

[Natirasha]

He claims tracker, just to push a mislynch?

when, tomorrow it is likely to put him under alot of pressure when Mantis flips town, and non-visiting as she claims?

Desperado was guaranteed to be under pressure today! Did you read any of yesterday? Did you see the hammer?

[Natirasha]

nats, you sure you investigated omara as town?

'not mafia' was the result. I don't believe I was redirected. It doesn't stop third party or godfather, though.

[Natirasha]

My town read on Mollie slipped enough because of Wisdom's insistence and the odd timing on the replacement(halfway through the night phase). Sadly, it didn't end up mattering, but I know there is a roleblocker going on now. I was going to hit Desp, my primary target, but I figured it was a foregone conclusion and as long as either Wisdom or I lived, we would ream his ass today.

Thank you for being town, penguin, by the way.

[Natirasha]

I wanna make sure you're asking me what I think you are before answering.

You are asking if I want to lynch potato hydra.

[Natirasha]

Were not lynching potato today, waynegg. I will grant you I do have a shred of skepticism at the moment, but its not optimal today-we either lynch the tracked target(mantis) or the claimed tracker(Desperado).

[Natirasha]

I understand the logic behind your words, waynegg, but I don't think it wise to lynch someone based off such an assumption outside of a 3/5 player lylo.

Anyways, Mara, unless you want my opinion of your skill to go down lower than it already is, stop acting like an asshat.

[Natirasha]

Wayne...seriously? I refuse to let my town block eat itself right now. Wtf.

[Natirasha]

It does?

Let's assume a town flip. What does that do? Lends credence to my claim, but otherwise nothing.
Let's assume a scum flip. What does that do? Implies I'm lying and we lynch me, I flip town, and were in that lylo you're trying to avoid.
Let's assume a gf flip. Nothing happens.

I don't see how we nail any team from a potato flip.

PEdit: that better not be real Mara.

[Natirasha]

PS if that was real Mara, I don't even care if he's scum, you're going on my blacklist.

[Natirasha]

How does that implicate desp, besides the whole 'two investigators' thing, which is solved by lynching mantis anyway.

[Natirasha]

It doesn't implicate at all though. If I was scum, I could easily fake an inno.

[Natirasha]

No, I didn't fake an inno. But I'm also saying that, in the hypothetical alternate universe where I am scum, I could easily fake an innocent of potato for town cred.

Nice notes BTW.

[Natirasha]

The kill is fake but the emotions are real.
Mara is close to replacing out right now and I'm beginning to feel the same way.
Your idiotic arrogance is becoming Wisdom 2.0 and it's really frustrating.

~Om

Thank you for clarifying, Om. The wisdom comparison is apt.

[Natirasha]

Potato, please just ignore waynegg for now. I think both Desp and I would agree you are clearly an extremely suboptimal lynch today.

Stop with the give up talk, though, Mara. It doesn't help the situation at all.

[Natirasha]

Is it just waynegg? I mean, he's clearly off the rocker on some of his thoughts, but its not that bad. He's giving me someone to play off at least.

[Natirasha]

Waynegg, I think you have a problem getting caught up in conspiracy theories too much. The godfather is an outward chance at the moment, especially with a mafia role blocker and an SK for the cop already.

@Om: i understand that. I suspect macmollie left for similar reasons.

[Natirasha]

It is. I'm waiting for Bert or Peng to bring us home.

[Natirasha]

What are your thoughts at this moment serra?

[Natirasha]

Ain't even mad.