Mini 399 - Meets His Maker Mafia - GAME OVER!
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Adele Big Sister
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No, it's not important. It's just, I was in a newbie, we killed scum D1, there were no kills N1, and D2 started out with a doc claim; the claimer pretty much had a free pass at that point, but then he disappeared and was replaced by IH who was all "um, guys? I'm not a doc. I'm a vanilla townie".
Predecessor coulda lost us the game if there'd been a doc because, get this, IH wastelling the truth. We were damn lucky the deadline hit before I pushed the LAL lynch on IH throughandthe cop (smart enough to not claim) hit scum N2. Very nearly a case of a newbie's terrible play bringing the game down through no fault of any of the final player set.-
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Adele Big Sister
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'Til the mod says otherwise, I'm assuming I'm still in this game.
Or daykill SKs for that matter. Those never happen, right? .. oh wait.Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:
Why? Since when do we have scum dayvigs???chamber wrote:Unvote vote shadowlurker
OK lemme think. I really don't like SL's reaction to my pointing something true out. He's pushing scare tactics at the moment; don't let them work, treat him the same as you would anyone else, don't give him a free ride. Remember also that SKs often have investigation immunity so SL's set himself up now to be unconfirmable - he's either quite a useful power role or quite a powerful bad guy.
Pooky, I'm sorry we never got that night together. You always seemed to have an interest in me, then you get a chance and plump for someone else? - I'm wondering how many girls you're playing.
I'll try to find time to post my thoughts on each player before I'm fitted for a casket, but if I don't find the time, then sorry.-
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unvote. IH's right.
I never even realised before, but when I've been scum in the past and been lynched, I always protested my innocence into twilight - just in case there was a Mayor or something. Once before I was fake-daykilled when I was scum (:oops: I'm so easy) and I said "no, I'm innocent, you're bad waaah". Just in case. I don't think I've ever confessed while there was a snowball's chance in Hell that I'd be somehow saved. (Here's the link in case you're interested: Best of the Internet Mafia. God, that game went on)
But, in those other cases (especially the , I didn't think "oh crap! Now's my last chance to say something of use here". I might omgus accuse someone, but I wouldn't give the kind of both-sides fair analysis I did on SL. His behaviour pulled a spontaneuos, brand-new reaction out of me. It's true, I could have ended up revealing something that would've damaged town (if I'd been a cop and had an innocent investigation on someone, better the town have that then nothing, right?). I don't think the benefits outweighed the risks, and I don't think it was a smart gambit
...and I won't pretend I'd've confessed as scum, so I was probably not an ideal target for it anyway...
...But I think it probably had protown motives. Or chance enough that I should unvote, anyway. It'd just be an omgus vote, and I don't like them.-
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No downside forPenguins of the Serengeti wrote:But there is no downside to lynching Adele. Let's get on with the job.youcertainly. Since you got so obsessed with killing me following my revealing myself to also be in Pooky's little black book, I'm suddenly suspicious that your win condition is merely to see me dead. Are you a lyncher, POTS?-
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Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:
Sure. But maybe you could give reasons why you think I should be lynched, then I can answer back... you know, play a game of mafia.IH wrote:Nah, I'm saying Pots myself.
IH is saying, it's pretty hypocritical of you to be up in arms about people voting for you without any explanation, given how you've treated me.IH wrote:Like you have Adele?
IH pretty much answered the accusations you leveled at me accurately. I wasn't defensive because I wasn't threatened. You vote was unexplained, your attempts at wagon-building weak and unsuccessful. I had no points to answer, and nothing to panic about.
I didn't want to vote for someone I hade no real suspicion of. You're pulling the reverse-wifom: "Too townie to be townie". It's the latest fallacy; flame-fanning is fun for all the family!Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:And when people vote for me in return, she doesn't vote for me! Why? I suspect she doesn't want to compromise herself voting for a townie.-
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Adele Big Sister
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Adele Big Sister
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Check your role pm.
When he doesn't visit me - like last night - there's the excuse that he has to "work". I wonder what he was "working" on last nightAdele wrote:'Pooky, I'm sorry we never got that night together. You always seemed to have an interest in me, then you get a chance and plump for someone else? - I'm wondering how many girls you're playing.-
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Me neither. I worked it out from the fact (which you made obvious earlier than necessary or advantageous) that you were a potential visitee, and so was I.Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:I did check my role PM. My recollection was correct. The details you mentioned were missing, about there being two people that he can visit, possibly more, or a love triangle. I have none of that.-
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Adele Big Sister
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I'd rather not give the scum any more info than necessary. If I get close to lynch I'll explain more, POTS, but if you got the same role pm as I did - which I actually think you did - then if we were confirmed too then that would completely broken (unless there's some bastardmoddery going on).
Any player who's been on site as long as Pooky or I checks mason confirmability with the mod on receipt of a role that implies or says masons but doesn't mention alignment. It's automatic; you have to check. Back in ol' mini 268, Bugsy Malone, even when the mason group insisted wehadchecked and the modhadguaranteed us to each other, were we treated as confirmed? Paranoia is the norm in a mafia game, POTS.
However. I believe that POTS is pro-town. He seems to genuinely believe that he's confirmed (or confirmable or whatever); if he was scum, I don't believe he'd act this way since the possibility of scum-masons would be much more at the front of his brain. His playstyle is that of a semi-noob. He knows the basics, he doesn't do ridiculous stuff, but there are a lot of subtleties and assumptions he's not so much party to. This argument has a pinch of WIFOM - I'm trusting he's saying the truth because otherwise he wouldn't say it? - but that's my opinion. He's not confirmed, but neither is he the lynch of the day.-
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Adele Big Sister
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Adele Big Sister
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Adele Big Sister
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Weak, man. Please contribute something or I'll add my vote - on the basis of undercontributing and opportunism.klebian wrote:
LALAdele wrote:
FFS. Please stop trading favours, and recognise that telling the truth is a bloody scumtell.Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:I do you a favor today, you do me a favor tomorrow and lynch Adele, K? If you could vig her, that would be cool, too. She sounds like a scum Mason.-
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I'll try. OK, I can't guarantee this is... "Fair 'n' Balanced"... but I think it's accurate, anyway, if slightly satirical of POTS' behaviour (I don't know how to explain his POV rationally because it seems totally irrational to me; again, I'm being upfront about that).
Pooky: vote POTS
POTS: Pooky, check yr role
Pooky: just 'cos we snuggle at night doesn't make you a GG
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SL: Vote Adele
Adele: Damn i never got to spend night with Pooky
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POTS: I'm a mason: confirmed good!
Adele: not confirmed good if you're a mason with Pooky the way I am... a nighttime visitor
POTS: but... mason! Good! You must be evil, then?
Adele: No, I'm good. What I'm saying is, we're in a love triangle - possibly with others - with pooky as the co-adored, we can potentially speak at night, but aren't alignment confirmed
POTS: acknowledging that fact and wanting to clarify it to the game at large is scummy
Adele: WTF???-
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Adele Big Sister
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Exactly . I don't have a nightchoice, only I get to be with Pooky if he condescends to visit me... which I'd very much like him to tonight.
So no, I was completely passive last night (and not because Pooky wasn't studly enough )
So... I asked him to contribute, and instead he just pretende3d to find it all so terribly confusing and to find it suspicious (we can talk at night. There's no pm indication that our alignment is either confirmed or suspect. Individually, we're probably as likely to be town from a setup POV as anyone else - so there's every chance all three of us are good, but that's not confirmed. How is it tough?). Repeating what others have said and casting a wide net of suspicion with no reasoning is not contributing.
Vote: klebian-
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Adele Big Sister
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Adele Big Sister
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I'm getting to suspect that Klebian really, really is scum. Obv I get pro-town vibes from IH's support of me , but that's something to look further into - just not too early on in the game.Twito wrote:IH is in this game? And still alive? You do realize that he is always scum. This time with Klebian, right?-
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Lol. That's really believable, though I wish you'd try to contribute to the game too.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If you had my role, you'd be furiously asking the moderator questions too.
wait... is IH a BabyJesus alt?
fishery. I'd like to suggest PookyTwito wrote:Pooky, you slut, why do you have 2 lovers? Or are there more?notanswer this question today.
klebian, you're at lynch-2. I guess if you don't want to get lynched, you might wanna do something about that.-
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Unfortuantely, that's not your call to make.klebian wrote:
On reasoning that I don't feel sufficient enough at this point.Adele wrote: klebian, you're at lynch-2. I guess if you don't want to get lynched, you might wanna do something about that.
Yamahako (if I understand him correctly) is objecting to the way you're "contributing"at the moment (harsh quote marks there, but I'm not fully satisfied); if you look further into Yama's post for context it becomes clearer
So: he feels you're trying to pull more info out of contributors (asking me questions when I've been very upfront about everything but would obviously not like to give too much info away to scum) rather than focusing on people who are acting scummy by undercontributing (he names Pooky, which I somewhat disagree with).Yamahako wrote:Why are you feeding this discussion aiming it toward the people who are actually contributing? it seems counter productive -we should be focusing on people who seem to be deliberately hiding something and being deceptice
Is recognisability bad?Twito wrote:And why did you choose this new one?
Yes it has many pretty and and possibly annoying bright colors on it but that also makes it easier to recognize.
When I was young, we had an Archimedes computer, on which we had a game of Taipei. I played it, but found many of the pictures on the tiles very similar and wanted something more discernable. I made bold, abstract tiles for the game in 24-colour, 60-by-50 or something Paint on that computer (I miss that program) and playede much better from then on. I liked the aesthetic of the tiloes I designed; this is possibly the earliest artwork I produced that I still have access to... in theory, anyway. We have an Arc emulator on this PC I'm now on but I don't know where it is. It's my intent to get my dad to show me, make up identical pictures in Paint and use those.
I designed this in about 10 minutes last night to do the job until then, when I'll cycle the picutres I made all those years ago (like, '93-ish)-
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Nothing intrinsically lynchworthy; he undercontributed and did some stuff that seemed kinda sketchy, I (for one) asked him to say something of substance, and so he upped his presence, happily posting fairly regularly, but nothing of anyIH wrote:OK, so is there a lynchworthy case on Klebian... cause I'm not seeing it...use.-
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Wow. Looking back on his posting history, SL has been obscenely lazy throughout the day.PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:It seems to me that he appears to be rather indifferent towards whether Kleb is lynched or not simply because of the fact that he is not actually doing anything to help Kleb out.SL wrote:Vote IH
Scum.SL wrote:yay pooky is coming to the rescue to use his BEST PLAYA skillz to kill ihscumSL wrote:
OMGUS is a town tell.draygn_mage wrote:Tsk, tsk, OMGUS? Definitely a scumtell. LOLUnvote Vote dragyn_mageSL wrote:Guys we should roleplay more. I'm Robert Calderone, who will you guys be?SL wrote:Panzerjager is the play today, we should lynch him immediately. Of course, we will give him ample time to claim.
Unvote Vote PanzerjagerSL wrote:Unvote Vote AdeleSL wrote:daykill: adeleSL wrote:i wonder if that resets the votecount or not.
unvote vote twitoSL wrote:Ok this game just got 200% stupider, I'll have something of content soon.SL wrote:
Enough to not vote your vote? While I don't think you're scum, this is seriously anti town play.Yamahako wrote:
I hate day 1 mason claims :-/Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:In case it wasn't obvious enough, I am a Mason.
What about wagoning klebian?
Unvote Vote IHSL wrote:nteresting, if there are any other potential masons, I'd like them to not step forward at this moment, thanks.SL wrote:Vote PookySL wrote:Can we prod/replace Pooky?SL wrote:Mod:Can we prod pooky
First off, "still"? He never said he didn't like it before. Second, he votes for... 7 different people, mostly with no reason behind it whatsoever given. Third, he says about 3SL wrote:Still don't like the case against klebian.vaguelyuseful things. Whatever you can say about Kelbian seems more true of SL. And, looking back, the pseudo-daykill on me was in response to me pointing that out; an action which derailed that (justified) line of enquiry (which was dumb of me)
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Well, this is no good at all. Is everyone afraid to say somehting because they don't want to codify their stance on the sudden SL-wagon? Get in here, there's jell-o to fight in .
Seriously, it's been over 48 hours, every single player is now officially lurking and unless people pipe up, what'll happen to this game?-
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A quick search on SL seems to indicate that he posts in minibatches about 3 times a weeks. His last MS post was on Saturday, so he's overdue for another. A week is a long time, yes, but I don't want him hammered but for a 24-hour impatience. I say we give him 24 hours. If he doesn't post, we hammer. There's no point getting a replacement here; I don't think he could satisfy us at this point, and he'd be replaceing in just to get lynched.
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Well, how about the fact that you said that you "still" didn't get the klebian wagon when you'd never said that before?ShadowLurker wrote:There was virtually no case against klebian so what did you want me to point out Pooky?
I did not misrepresent you, actually, so much as quote every post you'd ever written and let everyone see for themself how damning the record was.ShadowLurker wrote:The 7 votes is a big misrepresentation considering most of them were random or very early stage and I've generally stayed on Pooky, who still has done nothing but recently bring this case against me.
So, do you fancy giving us somewhere new to go? You've got the most votes at the moment, and have been (as you agree) slacking off: isn't on you to point out a better avenue to go down? Trust me, there's gonna be significant opposition to a Pookywagon for reasons covered eariler today.-
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Yeaahhhh.....
We post saying our problems with SL; he eventually posts a lacklustre reply (I find that whole post extremely unsatisfying; I consider it a mere stalling tactic). We answer that (first answer within 4 hours) and we gotta wait another half-week for him to roll back in and answer again. There's no conversation, no dialogue. When you're under attack as SL is, you've gotta be willing to stop by a few times and fight your corner.
So, we have a choice. Wait another fortnight until we've heard everything we want/need to from him and then almost definately end up lynching him or just do it now and getonwith it.
...I choose the latter.
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