Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:34 am

In post 2056, Majiffy wrote:Too bad Micros don't count for any records, eh?

After I host my first game, I should just host a game called spamposting mafia.

it'd be...interesting to say the least.

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:35 am

In post 2058, Majiffy wrote:Fuck you, AND your space, buddy.

</3

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:24 am

amished tell doesn't work on females

being completely serious about that

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:25 am

also my brain is trying to pull me in 50 directions right now

one says rach and bork are scum together

another's screaming at me to keep to my original team

yet another wants me to lynch wisdom

jesus christ why

P-Edit: No, it isn't; the tell doesn't apply for females, it's extremely weird.

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:29 am

In post 2157, buldermar wrote:
In post 2154, Human Destroyer wrote:amished tell doesn't work on females

being completely serious about that

What is "amished"?

An old user

his special tell was that scum tended to criticize their predecessors more often than town

it's a behavioral thing

however one of the clauses, for some godforsaken reason, is that it doesn't work on females

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:31 am

In post 2158, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2030, buldermar wrote:
In post 1933, Mantisdreamz wrote:and no, i am not scum with Wisdom and or Fate. just don't want to see their lynches today much. And if it is one of them, i'd rather it be Fate.

This post is weird. Why did you write this, if you recall?

because i was making a fuss about not wanting wisdom or fate lynched today. i just pictured incoming comments/accusations of trying to save my scum buddies

if it wasn't so close to deadline

I'd probably votepark on you right now

No joke, this is probably the worst thing I've seen in the thread besides Se-Asians and their claims.

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:32 am

Mollie who are your

current

townreads?

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:34 am

In post 2167, Wisdom wrote:mollie, Mantis, HD, Remembrance, bork

Vote Rach already

only when there's basically no other choice

I'd really prefer SE-Asians or you.

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:34 am

Guys we made it past the Day 1 record of Large Games too

rofl

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:36 am

In post 2174, Majiffy wrote:Fuck how did that sharpie stripe get on the book?

lol

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:37 am

In post 2178, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 2174, Majiffy wrote:Fuck how did that sharpie stripe get on the book?

lol

This was SUPPOSED to say:

You JUST noticed that?

lol

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:37 am

In post 2179, buldermar wrote:
In post 2171, Human Destroyer wrote:Guys we made it past the Day 1 record of Large Games too

rofl

Bossmode.

Human Destroyer · Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:18 am

VOTE: SE-Asians

Human Destroyer · Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:32 am

I'm not an N2 power role either

Human Destroyer · Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:37 am

In post 2272, pirate mollie wrote:nope we voting fate cos he came up guilty

VOTE: fate

DO NOT QUICK LYNCH HIM UNTIL WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION

oh or that

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fate

Human Destroyer · Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:42 am

In post 2290, pirate mollie wrote:in the meantime, does anybody remember if borky first wanted to replace out before or after nacho's suggestion wrt claiming?

He said he hated the setup from the very beginning.

Which reminds me:

@Mod: Was the replacement forced or requested? The game post and the replacement queue post present conflicting stories.

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:14 pm

k done with skype mafia and rl shit

let's do dis thing

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:16 pm

In post 2281, Remembrance wrote:Truly, a strange reaction to finding out someone you protected is scum.

so let me get this straight.

you protected nacho (I remember reading that at some point), but after mollie claimed a guilty on Fate you made this comment?

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:16 pm

In post 2282, Remembrance wrote:Defended*

oh okay nvm

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:17 pm

In post 2289, Mantisdreamz wrote:i was a bit surprised that wisdom was the nightkill, but yea - my first thought as well, was that maybe scum did not like his reads or where he was headed. given fate reading as guilty - that was also probably part of the decision to nk him.

ironically, this is exactly how the last game started out (rach lynched day 1, wisdom killed night 1)

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:18 pm

In post 2307, buldermar wrote:I was just kidding.

Why did you kill Wisdom again?

In post 2308, Remembrance wrote:Reaction test.

In post 2309, Remembrance wrote:I have a town role pm you know.

dafuq is this?

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:19 pm

In post 2338, Mantisdreamz wrote:pretty sure i'm still a little wary of HD as well. i think SE-Asians is town.

why and why

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:20 pm

In post 2345, Mantisdreamz wrote:i think i was wondering about nacho at some point as well.

i'm pretty sure this was bork's town game. i'm not as sure about mollie - because (@ mollie) - your rach vote pinged for me.

In post 2346, Mantisdreamz wrote:wait nevermind, mollie viewed fate as scum.

so you forgot about mollie's guilty on fate while voting with it?

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:21 pm

In post 2350, Rubicon wrote:To be clear, I'm not pointing at Nacho, and I don't think his push on Wisdom was scummy (in case you thought I was attacking him because). I just think he should be investigated.

I don't remember who you replaced

but this is a really terrible post

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:23 pm

In post 2378, pirate mollie wrote:and honestly probably rubicon the next day. borky's replace out is fishy as fuck

oh it was bork?

what was fishy about his replacing out?

I like your reads though.

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:24 pm

In post 2495, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 2350, Rubicon wrote:To be clear, I'm not pointing at Nacho, and I don't think his push on Wisdom was scummy (in case you thought I was attacking him because). I just think he should be investigated.
I don't remember who you replaced

but this is a really terrible post

In post 2496, Rubicon wrote:Cool. Explain why.

It's a weak push meant to avoid stepping on Nacho's toes. I mean really, why would you ask for a person to be investigated if you didn't think they were scummy? It doesn't make any sense, and the soft-push is just awkward as fuck.

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:26 pm

In post 2389, Mantisdreamz wrote:well i was just gong to say, before you asked that

it was still at the beginning, where HD put IAI in his scum pile, for what Wisdom called a 'bad post' on IAI's part.
in the meantime, HD hadn't even paid attention to him, nor asked him any questions... take a look at his earlier ISO

except I was able to point out exactly what I had a problem with when Wisdom hadn't done so--are you trying to call it opportunistic or something?

like I'm seriously not even sure what you're even trying to get at or why it's scummy

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:26 pm

In post 2396, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2350, Rubicon wrote:To be clear, I'm not pointing at Nacho, and I don't think his push on Wisdom was scummy (in case you thought I was attacking him because). I just think he should be investigated.

Fate (L-2): pirate mollie, Human Destroyer, mantisdreamz, buldermar

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, Remembrance, Rubicon, I Am Innocent, SE-Asians, Fate, kuror0

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Thursday, May 2nd at 2:30 PM EST
what the fuck is this

a cop guilty on fate, courtesy of Mollie the Pirate

Fate (L-2): pirate mollie, Human Destroyer, mantisdreamz, buldermar

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, Remembrance, Rubicon, I Am Innocent, SE-Asians, Fate, kuror0

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Thursday, May 2nd at 2:30 PM EST

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:29 pm

In post 2407, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 2295, Remembrance wrote:Seriously Mollie, your level of patience, and your unwillingness to follow what others say is absolutely (awesome) difficult and complicates the game some. You could have sat on the read and waited until Night 2 group was out like it was suggested, but I get why you didn't do that.

More importantly, what do you think of Nacho? Given that Nacho pointed to Bacde initially? And since you already announced Fate was scum, can you tell me why you investigated him? Given your town read on Bacde?
As much as it pains me to say, I agree with Remembrance. The correct play is to sit on your scum investigation, let the day play out a little, and then release your results. Lots of lost information.

With that said, the things to do today in the correct order would have been:
1) the claimed N1 power roles release their results, or at least what power type they were (Cop, Doctor)
2) based on this distribution, the N2 cop dying, and now the N3 doctor, what is the best plan going forward (if all 3 had claimed doctor, and wisdom being a 4th doctor....would that change how we do things???)
3) then follow said plan

On average, you will have 2 power roles a night. With rach dying, that reduces the average to one for N2. If we have everybody claim, and one person claims a N2 power role, what do you think happens to them???

Based on the flips and Nacho/Mollies roles, my suggestion would have been for no one to claim. And if we did claim, to go with Nacho's original plan where just N2 cops claim. With 2 people already claiming no power role N2, and another person soft claiming towards having one, maybe we should finish, I don't know.

As for this game, I believe Fate is scum and will vote when discussion is done. My early notes say that Bacde and SE Asians were not on the same team, hence why I had a town read on that slot as SE Asians I believed strongly was scum. Needless to say, I no longer have confidence in that read.

Bork's replace out feels weird, and his L-1 vote from D1 still stands out as opportunistic.

HD reads mirrored my own D1 (SE Asians/remembrance), except I was also in his reads. Knowing my alignment and now guessing SE Asians is town, I'll say the last scum read is probably in HD/Remembrance. (basically, if remembrance flips town, then HD was likely tunneling hard on 3 townies while defending fate's slot)

Buldermar, Mollie, Kuror, Nacho all have felt town. SE Asians for the Fate scum investigation is also likely town. Mantis I would need to reread, but I remember thinking she was town.

bolded is weird as fuck

"Oh he had the same reads as me except for a scumread on me but because I know I'm town and that the people he was tunneling might be town he might be scum"

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:30 pm

In post 2411, kuror0 wrote:Ok, so are we going to have people claiming the same way we did on D1 or there is gonna be a change?

Mantis early posts this day about HD were kind of weird. First stated the she was wary of him, but 5 posts later asks Remember if she "should go back and get paranoid of him(HD) again". Which is kind of a direct contradiction on her earlier statement. Later she placed HD in the most certain of being scum pile, which shows quite a fast grow on her scum read towards him without much justification.

Bjork replacement seems as weird as it gets. It is the first time I see a night phase extension due to a replacement, which makes me suspicious of that slot.

I agree with you about mantis.

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:30 pm

In post 2416, SE-Asians wrote:By the way, scum would like to jump on their partner who outed guilty because they want to end the day faster. That's why I think Rubicon is town, but that "Somebody should investigated Nacho" was uhh.... Glad no one vote to join on the wagon again.

jumping on the lynch of an outed guilty is not alignment indicative

never ever ever

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:32 pm

In post 2451, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2447, Remembrance wrote:@Nacho: Thoughts on the current situation? I'm not Buldermar, I'm like, 1/200th of a Buldermar, but I can toss ideas back and forth.
We have a confirmed scum in our hands, HD is scum as fuck again, we probably should follow my plan from now on.
Rubicon pinged but bork seemed town as hell but I don't know if I'm counting him out early.

Yeah I'm super scummy

BETTER LYNCH ME BEFORE I SHOOT YA

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:33 pm

In post 2452, Nachomamma8 wrote:unfortunately...

RachMarie (L-0): Wisdom, buldermar, Remembrance, mantisdreamz, pirate mollie, Fate, Kuror0

Fate most likely isn't the only scum on this wagon. I feel good about buldey for now, mantis and mollie are chill, and kuror0 is my very special read. So suddenly, here I am reanalyzing my read on you.

it took you fucking long enough to realize this

god

I don't feel as good about mantis as you do though, but a Rem scumflip would mean she isn't scum so.

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:38 pm

Alright done

Sacred Town ListMollie
Nacho
kurur0
buldermar

These guys aren't ever ever EVER getting lynched. EVER.

Unsure PileMantis
Rubicon

Mantis's position on me seems all over the place and weird but I'm not really sure if it's townish or scummy yet; also I don't think she's scum with Rem.

Rubicon is scummy but not as scummy as my lynch candidates.

Lynch candidatesFate (durr hurr)
Remembrance
SE-Asians
IaI

yes I'm aware one of these is wrong and that it isn't fate

I'll figure out which one it is later

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:16 pm

In post 2511, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2499, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 2389, Mantisdreamz wrote:well i was just gong to say, before you asked that

it was still at the beginning, where HD put IAI in his scum pile, for what Wisdom called a 'bad post' on IAI's part.
in the meantime, HD hadn't even paid attention to him, nor asked him any questions... take a look at his earlier ISO
except I was able to point out exactly what I had a problem with when Wisdom hadn't done so--are you trying to call it opportunistic or something?

like I'm seriously not even sure what you're even trying to get at or why it's scummy
i thought it was strange that you just agreed and simply added him to your scum pile for his post.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4830325

his post didn't look that scummy to me
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4830276

I thought it was scummy though.

This post even explained exactly why I thought it was scummy sooooooo

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:28 pm

In post 2514, Mantisdreamz wrote:HD - why exactly do you have Remembrance as scummy? anything you can point to?

his reaction to the SE-Asians wagon was to jump on. However, when Wisdom called bullshit on a point completely unrelated to Rem's point, Rem unvoted for no reason. No. Fucking. Reason.

It screams wagon derailment of a scumbuddy, and even if not, it's scapegoating.

I also didn't like his really early play, you can check out the earliest posts in my ISO for that stuff

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:38 pm

In post 2517, Remembrance wrote:3. I reacted to Wisdom saying he was town, so I unvoted immediately.

except wisdom didn't say he was town; he said claiming VT wasn't a scumslip.

he even said later he didn't think se-asians was town soooooo

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 221, Wisdom wrote:I can accept the argument "Even if he was going for sarcasm he's still scum for x,y reasons" but I will NOT accept further pushing of this as a scumslip.

this is key

your entire vote on asians in the first place was based on a completely different reason than the scumslip

so again, why would you just unvote when someone calls a point

that you didn't make nor support

bullshit?

it doesn't make any sense

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:44 pm

okay let me rephrase this somewhat

Why is Wisdom's opinion on SE-Asians so instrumental to your vote on him?

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:50 pm

But why did you stop pushing your own reasoning entirely then when you realized your own mistake?

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:53 pm

on wisdom

you think wisdom realized something, but then you vote him for "scumslipping", then you unvote him realizing your mistake, and never pick up your se-asians push ever again

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:55 pm

In post 2529, Remembrance wrote:Because he started to whine all over the place.

immediately after the wisdom push?

because I'm not sure if we're talking about the same time period right now

Human Destroyer · Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:55 pm

(whining isn't a towntell btw since scum can whine but we don't need to theory talk right now)

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:04 am

In post 2543, Rubicon wrote:But seriously. Why would you want to end the day early? Particularly with no n2 power roles?

Well I haven't really seen anyone that's in a rush to lynch and end the day yet.
Why did you feel the need to make this comment?

Human Destroyer · Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:32 am

In post 2596, buldermar wrote:
In post 2588, Fate wrote:nacho is so god damn town

you dumb clownfucks
I hope everyone here is experienced enough to just disregard everything Fate has to say at this point.

well I do think Nacho's town

but yeah I basically have Fate on ignore

Human Destroyer · Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:32 am

In post 2592, SE-Asians wrote:^"Jump on the wagon, let's end the day". Still don't get my logic?

I see what you're saying but...no one's expressed wishes to end the day yet.

So...?

Human Destroyer · Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:24 am

In post 2625, Nachomamma8 wrote:buldermar/HD is who I'm working with right now, with a positive on HD.
buldermar can hopefully be investigated so I don't have to read him?

Just have someone investigate me or some shit

I don't feel like getting mislynched this game

Human Destroyer · Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:02 am

In post 2269, Human Destroyer wrote:I'm not an N2 power role either

I claimed.

Human Destroyer · Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:59 am

In post 2718, buldermar wrote:
In post 2717, pirate mollie wrote:it is a waste to investigate me since fate is confirmed scum and his flip will pretty much support my claim
I agree with this.

thirded

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:32 pm

which plan we decide on doing now I forget

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:42 pm

mk

I'm a Night 3 cop

Human Destroyer · Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:48 pm

In post 2760, buldermar wrote:I actually read your post as "which plan were we doing". I think we're still doing the same plan, though, so it shouldn't matter.

Well now we're doing the same plan for certain.

Human Destroyer · Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:11 am

Eh whatever

SE-Asians and Remembrance

Human Destroyer · Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:11 pm

In post 2822, Remembrance wrote:After thinking about it, I think Nacho's hint was that Bork replacing out was indicative of alignment,

In post 2688, Nachomamma8 wrote:hint: buldermar is playing
hint2: bork isn't
but I don't understand why he mentioned Bulder in it. Help me out here. It's town Nacho. There's some reason he got killed over two cops, other than the wifom fear factor.

@Kuror0 what did you come up with? You said you were looking at NK factor. Any ideas?

I'm not completely sure, but I think I can give a prod now, so:

Requesting Prod of Se-asians

He was talking to Majiffy...I'm not really sure where you get this is indicative of Nacho's opinions?

Human Destroyer · Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:10 am

In post 2839, buldermar wrote:
In post 2836, I Am Innocent wrote:Unless you think the scum team is HD & myself, he is a legit cop.
Why did you out that he's a cop? Or am I being stupid and missing something obvious now?

I claimed N3 cop...

Human Destroyer · Fri May 03, 2013 10:15 am

hmmm

In post 2271, Rubicon wrote:I'm hoping somebody investigated nacho.

In post 2350, Rubicon wrote:To be clear, I'm not pointing at Nacho, and I don't think his push on Wisdom was scummy (in case you thought I was attacking him because). I just think he should be investigated.

This is a weird set of posts; "I'm not pointing suspicion at Nacho but he should def be investigated!" I don't really see how this makes sense.

In post 2781, Rubicon wrote:Top scumspects are buldermor, HD, and mantis.
Doing analysis today. It's easier now. Also when I said I'd do it over the weekend, I clearly meant this weekend. Clearly.

I'm worried about gambits, though. This setup practically begs for a scum gambit.

The obvious possibilities are:

1) Mollie outed Fate on purpose, hoping to become conftown. This is kind of consistent with anger at not being protected, if she thought it failed.

2) kuror is not actually a cop, and killed Nacho to avoid having to give a result. However, there's not much advantage to this since scum could just fake a town result on anyone. Also, the Nacho kill is more likely just someone trying to get rid of Nacho. And kuror looks kind of town.

So much stating things that could be, so little commiting to whether they actually happened or not.

Human Destroyer · Fri May 03, 2013 10:21 am

In post 2786, Rubicon wrote:
RachMarie
(L-0) -
Wisdom
, buldermar, Remembrance, mantisdreamz, pirate mollie,
Fate
, kuror0

Very likely that one or more scum is on this list between Wisdom and Fate.

Fate
(L-0) - pirate mollie, Human Destroyer, mantisdreamz, buldermar,
Nachomamma8
, I Am Innocent

Very likely that one or more scum is on this list before Nacho.

These players match both criteria:

buldermar
mantisdreamz
pirate mollie

Buldermar and mollie are very unlikely to both be scum.

Remembrance is on the first list, HD on the second. Remembrance is probably town, though.

kuror0 and SE-Asians are definitely town.

This wagon analysis is useless, arbitrary, doesn't actually have him taking any stances based on it (meaning it's meant to look like he's doing work on the surface but it isn't actually worth much), plus stances that don't really have

any

basis whatsoever.

In post 2787, Rubicon wrote:Mollie seems townish in ISO. Maybe no gambits after all?

Now here's something more interesting, he expresses the possibility of gambits despite calling all the "possible gambiters" town. Why would he bring it up if he thought that to be the case? It seems like he's just trying to look town by making "worthwhile" analyses that really any player in this game could make with no trouble.

In post 2790, Rubicon wrote:VOTE: buldermar
Obvious reaction is obvious.

kuror0, I think scum would try to join the Fate wagon as soon as possible. I exclude you on the first list because (1) you're obviously town, and (2) less obvious, but I think Fate was not the first scum to join the RachMarie wagon. IAI is off the list because of the timing of his hammer - he was online with Nacho, Nacho voted, basically inviting a hammer, and IAI hammered a few minutes later. It doesn't clear IAI, just makes his vote less interesting on that wagon. But I don't find him very suspicious anyway.

This OMGUS is legit horrible; rather than ask buldermar to explain his vote, he simply votes right back nonchalantly as if his own unexplained vote will mean something to buldermar's unexplained vote. The reaction feels fake as town would be probably be yelling something along the lines of "WTF are you talking about?"

Human Destroyer · Fri May 03, 2013 10:22 am

VOTE: Rubicon

Human Destroyer · Sat May 04, 2013 11:51 am

In post 2888, Rubicon wrote:I'd like to respond to buldermar and HD's responses to my earlier posts before I die.

respond to what

Human Destroyer · Sun May 05, 2013 2:32 pm

In post 2900, Majiffy wrote:A NEW PAGE?!

Rubicon (L-2): Remembrance, buldermar, Human Destroyer
Buldermar (L-4): Rubicon
kuror0 (L-4): I Am Innocent
mantisdreamz (L-4): pirate mollie

SE-Asians, Human Destroyer, kuror0, mantisdreamz

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Sunday, May 12th 2013, at 12:00 AM EST.

I HAVE 2 VOTES

FEAR ME

Human Destroyer · Sun May 05, 2013 2:33 pm

se-asians' soft push on IaI and me is laughable to the max, considering they're doing absolutely friggin' nothing with their vote

Human Destroyer · Sun May 05, 2013 2:36 pm

In post 2916, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2912, Remembrance wrote:From what I remember:

Day 1: Nacho(doc), Rem(Doc), Mollie(cop).
Day 2: Rach(cop), buldermar(doc), Kuror(cop), IaI (cop)
Day 3: Wisdom (doc), HD(cop)
Day 4: Rubi (cop)
Day 5: Se-Asians(?)

Mantis(?)
night 5

I'll give you all 3 guesses as to why this is the most anti-town post mantis could've made at this point in the game.

Human Destroyer · Mon May 06, 2013 9:15 am

Rubicon, Mantis, kurur0...

^at least 1 of these is scum, probably 2

Buldermar, Mollie, Remembrance (?), kurur0...

^probably town

Human Destroyer · Mon May 06, 2013 9:15 am

sorry kurur0 should be in the scum list not town

Human Destroyer · Mon May 06, 2013 9:41 am

In post 2931, kuror0 wrote:So you changed your 3 scum reads. I remember before this day(and through all the game) you had something about Asians, Remember and IaI as scum reads. Those sudden changes are due to the claims or something else?

a bunch of things

claims being one of them yeah

Human Destroyer · Mon May 06, 2013 11:10 am

In post 2933, pirate mollie wrote:kuror and hd feel awkward as hell

I'm probably dead tonight anyway

Human Destroyer · Tue May 07, 2013 7:22 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mantis

Human Destroyer · Wed May 08, 2013 7:30 am

In post 2959, Mantisdreamz wrote:nice little sneak-in vote there, hd

it's not really a sneak-in vote?

it's just a vote

because you're probably scum

Human Destroyer · Fri May 10, 2013 7:25 am

hmm okay

I did some math checks, and since all nights are outed,

Mantis and SE-Asians should claim their roles (Doctor or Cop) at this time

.

Human Destroyer · Fri May 10, 2013 3:21 pm

In post 2982, Human Destroyer wrote:hmm okay

I did some math checks, and since all nights are outed,
Mantis and SE-Asians should claim their roles (Doctor or Cop) at this time
.

MANTIS

Human Destroyer · Fri May 10, 2013 3:38 pm

In post 2998, Remembrance wrote:@HD, would it hurt town to see your math? I'm thinking about worse case scenarios if Mantis claims.

yes; if scum can see the math I did it actually ruins the plan I have

mantis I don't really give a fuck about IaI's alignment, I just need you to trust me on this one

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 6:56 am

In post 3018, buldermar wrote:
In post 2988, Mantisdreamz wrote:i'll out the role if the rest of town thinks that fine to do right now.
I don't really see how you outing your role could potentially benefit town, and I can see how it could potentially hurt town... Am I missing something here?

Yes, actually you are. I have a plan.

By the way, IaI's alignment is only relevant to mine if I'm scum (for obvious reasons); since I'm town he could just be fakeclaiming the innocent.

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 6:58 am

SE-Asians needs to finish off the "massclaim".

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 7:06 am

In post 3025, Remembrance wrote:^ What do you think of my retarded vote on Buldermar? Wherein I vote my strongest town read and vote with my strongest scum read? There is so much cognitive dissonance it is hurting me.

What do I think of it?
I think it's weird you're commenting on your own vote like this.

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 7:08 am

In post 3027, Remembrance wrote:What do you think of the reasoning behind it, is what I want to know. You're town, I want to know if I'm wrong.

I don't think buldey's scum, no.
We can talk more about it when SE-Asians claims, yeah?

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 7:46 am

In post 3030, kuror0 wrote:
In post 3023, Human Destroyer wrote: By the way, IaI's alignment is only relevant to mine if I'm scum (for obvious reasons); since I'm town he could just be fakeclaiming the innocent.
If you are aware of this possibility why you removed IaI from your main suspects? Or do you think his play has improved and no longer see him as scummy as before?

because I don't think IaI-scum would lower his "easy to push mislynches" count like that

Human Destroyer · Sat May 11, 2013 11:42 am

STUFF AS PROMISED

Docs (6):

Nacho - confirmed
Rem
Wisdom - confirmed
buldey
Mantis
SE-Asians

Cops (6):

Mollie - so likely after claimed fate guilty it isn't funny
Rach - confirmed
kuror
IaI
HD - confirmed to self
Rubi

I was really hoping one of our N5ers would claim cop and break the game in half but NOPE

anyway, we need to have 6-4 or 5-5

so at the very least one in each pool here is lying, and at most two are lying in one group

So let's take out known townies...

Docs (4):

Rem
buldey
Mantis
SE-Asians

Cops (3):

kuror
IaI
Rubi

so...yeah, that didn't really do what I hoped except finish out a crappy, incomplete massclaim :l

sorry guys

Human Destroyer · Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:57 pm

SE-ASIANS WAS NOT BLEEDINGLY TOWN GET OUT

I'm sad my reads were completely and totally wrong leave me alone